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#1 HaloinventedFPS
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Every time a list of the most pirated games of the year come up, PC is always on top, everytime news pops up about video game piracy its always blaming the PC

Now how does a torrent download = a pirated copy, it doesnt at all, did they have a modded xbox? can their PC even run it? see my point.

anyway, these yearly list of most pirated games never show the PSP and DS to make the PC look worse

ask any console based site what the most pirated game of all time is, they will say MW2 on PC or Spore, DEAD WRONG

the most pirated games of all time are PSP and DS games (i have plenty of Source if you disagree)

lets look at this silly list

Top Pirated PC games on Bit Torrent for 2010

1) Call of Duty: Black Ops (4,270,000) - you cant play Black ops online with a pirated copy on PC, but you can on Xbox 360

2) Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (3,960,000) - you cant play BC2 online with a pirated copy on PC, but you can on Xbox 360 (also BC2 sold best on PC)

3) Mafia 2 (3,240,000) - damn shame, i have no counter for this

4) Mass Effect 2 (3,240,000) - no wonder bioware dont make PC games anymore, Single player games are dead on PC, ill give you that, but too be fair SP games are also dying on consoles

5) Starcraft II (3,120,000)- Blizzard stated this was dead wrong, over 2million of these torrent downloads was from blizzards official torrent

yet again on this list i see no PSP/DS and no PS3

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#2 Lto_thaG
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It's ****ing easy,though.

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#3 dontshackzmii
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piracy is awful on pc far more then on consoles . Its much more easy and safe to steal games on the pc . You could brick your console so its harder .

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#4 DroidPhysX
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Can you throw in MW2?

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#5 Firebird-5
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maybe because ms or sony or nintendo don't want their platform to look like a haven for pirates.

even if there are numbers for console piracy, why would someone report on them? the culture is too ingrained

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#7 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

It's ****ing easy,though.

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Nintendo DS = Emulation for FREE on your PC OR £11 card that lets you play every game including full online functionality with many added bonuses (similar to jailbreaking) PSP = Any memory card + £10 battery. All systems except PS3 & 360 = Emulation for free. Theyre all easy.

Meh,I can pirate games right now without getting up.
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#8 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

It's ****ing easy,though.

Birdy09

Nintendo DS = Emulation for FREE on your PC OR £11 card that lets you play every game including full online functionality with many added bonuses (similar to jailbreaking) PSP = Any memory card + £10 battery. All systems except PS3 & 360 = Emulation for free. Theyre all easy.

sure, but pc is comparativley easier. pc has no obstacles whatsoever (except your dl speed, lol)

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#9 tricksta189
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What do you mean Bioware doesn't make PC games anymore? Last time I checked every game they made is available on PC and plays better on PC (Yes, Mass Effect and Dragon Age are much better on PC (especially dragon age), and they are making a PC exclusive MMO right now..

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#10 Birdy09
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piracy is awful on pc far more then on consoles . Its much more easy and safe to steal games on the pc . You could brick your console so its harder .

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What a load of crap, with little research only a complete and utter idiot would manage to "brick" the console. the only one thats even remotly tricky is the 360.... the rest are as easy as PC piracy.
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#11 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

It's ****ing easy,though.

Birdy09

Nintendo DS = Emulation for FREE on your PC OR £11 card that lets you play every game including full online functionality with many added bonuses (similar to jailbreaking) PSP = Any memory card + £10 battery. All systems except PS3 & 360 = Emulation for free. Theyre all easy.

anyone with any sort of ipod can hack a PS3, plenty of PS3 torrents up, yet i didnt see a single one on that list

even after blizzard stated SC2's piracy was tiny, this stupid bitorrent site still shows the 3million number of "OFFICIAL" downloads and passes them off as pirated copies

im sensing such bias, also Alan wake was pirated more than RDR? cmon please, these numbers are just off imo

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#12 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

It's ****ing easy,though.

Lto_thaG

Nintendo DS = Emulation for FREE on your PC OR £11 card that lets you play every game including full online functionality with many added bonuses (similar to jailbreaking) PSP = Any memory card + £10 battery. All systems except PS3 & 360 = Emulation for free. Theyre all easy.

Meh,I can pirate games right now without getting up.

I can order a card and DL ready without getting up ... not exactly different, just 1 minor extra step.
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#13 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] Nintendo DS = Emulation for FREE on your PC OR £11 card that lets you play every game including full online functionality with many added bonuses (similar to jailbreaking) PSP = Any memory card + £10 battery. All systems except PS3 & 360 = Emulation for free. Theyre all easy.

Birdy09

Meh,I can pirate games right now without getting up.

I can order a card and DL ready without getting up ... not exactly different, just 1 minor extra step.

And pc pirating is still easier.

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#14 HaloinventedFPS
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What do you mean Bioware doesn't make PC games anymore? Last time I checked every game they made is available on PC and plays better on PC (Yes, Mass Effect and Dragon Age are much better on PC (especially dragon age), and they are making a PC exclusive MMO right now..

tricksta189

SWTOR will go to consoles if it does poorly on PC, its been desgined for consoles in mind, you can tell if youve played the beta, but im not going into that

also Dragonage was made on PC first, great game, but the others are console ports, i meant to say PC exclusives or PC centric

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#15 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Meh,I can pirate games right now without getting up.Lto_thaG

I can order a card and DL ready without getting up ... not exactly different, just 1 minor extra step.

And pc pirating is still easier.

PS1/PS2 piracy back in the day was more easy and popular, the only reason PS1/PS2 destroyed nintendo and later Microsoft was because of piracy, dont disagree with me on this, you know what im talking about, mod chips and piles of burnt games or cheap $1 games from overseas like bali

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#16 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Meh,I can pirate games right now without getting up.Lto_thaG

I can order a card and DL ready without getting up ... not exactly different, just 1 minor extra step.

And pc pirating is still easier.

Ok you win a technicality well done., it however doesnt change the fact that it is practically as easy, anyone who wants to do it will, and there are just as many people who do.
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#17 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] I can order a card and DL ready without getting up ... not exactly different, just 1 minor extra step.HaloinventedFPS

And pc pirating is still easier.

PS1/PS2 piracy back in the day was more easy and popular, the only reason PS1/PS2 destroyed nintendo and later Microsoft was because of piracy, dont disagree with me on this, you know what im talking about, mod chips and piles of burnt games or cheap $1 games from overseas like bali

So,you could stay in one place while achieving all that?
I'm just saying,the easiest way is pc.Go to site,open torrent,wait,install.Nothing more.

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#18 DroidPhysX
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PS1/PS2 piracy back in the day was more easy and popular, the only reason PS1/PS2 destroyed nintendo and later Microsoft was because of piracy, dont disagree with me on this, you know what im talking about, mod chips and piles of burnt games or cheap $1 games from overseas like bali

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Not sure if serious:lol:

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#19 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] I can order a card and DL ready without getting up ... not exactly different, just 1 minor extra step.Birdy09

And pc pirating is still easier.

Ok you win a technicality well done., it however doesnt change the fact that it is practically as easy, anyone who wants to do it will, and there are just as many people who do.

how is that a technicality??? small detail my ass, it's just easier to pirate PC games than it is consoles. it's kind of like how you get pissed off at a site if it takes too long to load.

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#20 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] I can order a card and DL ready without getting up ... not exactly different, just 1 minor extra step.Birdy09

And pc pirating is still easier.

Ok you win a technicality well done., it however doesnt change the fact that it is practically as easy, anyone who wants to do it will, and there are just as many people who do.

Yeah,it's easy.But on the pc it's the easiest,which what I was going for.
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#21 goodtobeback
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pirates cant even get the games functioning like the retail copies so why the crying?
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#22 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] And pc pirating is still easier.

Firebird-5

Ok you win a technicality well done., it however doesnt change the fact that it is practically as easy, anyone who wants to do it will, and there are just as many people who do.

how is that a technicality??? small detail my ass, it's just easier to pirate PC games than it is consoles. it's kind of like how you get pissed off at a site if it takes too long to load.

Its a technicallity because its that ridiculously small of a point that barely changes the fact that is is fact as easy just takes one step more ONE TIME. when you order it and it arrives you just do what you do on PC .... download the game and shove it on the DS...
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#23 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Ok you win a technicality well done., it however doesnt change the fact that it is practically as easy, anyone who wants to do it will, and there are just as many people who do.Birdy09

how is that a technicality??? small detail my ass, it's just easier to pirate PC games than it is consoles. it's kind of like how you get pissed off at a site if it takes too long to load.

Its a technicallity because its that ridiculously small of a point that barely changes the fact that is is fact as easy just takes one step more ONE TIME. when you order it and it arrives you just do what you do on PC .... download the game and shove it on the DS...

that's the whole point of the path of least resistance. it's not a technicality. i'm all for PC but not admitting that is insane

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#24 tricksta189
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It only really matters for Single Player games like ME2...why you would ever pirate a multiplayer game is beyond me :)maybe just to try it out?

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#25 goodtobeback
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I seen on n4g call of duty black ops is the most pirated game of 2010 lol. http://i51.tinypic.com/2sbpvn4.jpg See i pirated the game on pc.
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#26 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

PS1/PS2 piracy back in the day was more easy and popular, the only reason PS1/PS2 destroyed nintendo and later Microsoft was because of piracy, dont disagree with me on this, you know what im talking about, mod chips and piles of burnt games or cheap $1 games from overseas like bali

DroidPhysX

Not sure if serious:lol:

not sure if your trolling, everyone knows this, Sony gained a huge market share with PS1/PS2 because of Piracy, the highest selling game of all time on PS2 sold 17million copies, while the PS2 had 120million units sold, the Xbox had 25million units sold and the highest selling game on Xbox was 8million (Halo 2) same for the Gamecube, SSBM sold 8million copies

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#27 goodtobeback
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That sucks pirates killed pc exclusives THEM BASTARDS
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#28 HaloinventedFPS
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I seen on n4g call of duty black ops is the most pirated game of 2010 lol. http://i51.tinypic.com/2sbpvn4.jpg See i pirated the game on pc.goodtobeback

when we get some real numbers, im sure the most pirated game was a DS or PSP game, ill bet my life on it

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#29 goodtobeback
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I wonder how many people pirated call of duty black ops on ps3/360 vs pc.
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#30 goodtobeback
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ps3 piracy is even easier than pc just buy that damb usb adapter crap lol.
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#31 Lto_thaG
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ps3 piracy is even easier than pc just buy that damb usb adapter crap lol.goodtobeback
Pc:Buy...nothing.
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#32 HaloinventedFPS
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I wonder how many people pirated call of duty black ops on ps3/360 vs pc.goodtobeback

they cant show the numbers, because only PC gamers pirate, no one ever pirates on consoles

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[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]ps3 piracy is even easier than pc just buy that damb usb adapter crap lol.Lto_thaG
Pc:Buy...nothing.

PS3/Wii can be cracked as easy as a torrent can be downloaded

seen the new news for PS3, doesnt even need a dongle anymore soon

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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="goodtobeback"]ps3 piracy is even easier than pc just buy that damb usb adapter crap lol.HaloinventedFPS

Pc:Buy...nothing.

PS3/Wii can be cracked as easy as a torrent can be downloaded

seen the new news for PS3, doesnt even need a dongle anymore soon

Yeah,I'm done with this.My point was that pc pirating is the easiest way to pirate.
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#35 MarioJP_
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Out of the easy consoles to pirate is the wii lol. In fact the emu for it feels like the real console.

http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/

That the site for the emu. Its free and its open source and it works. I can play Resident Evil Remake And zero that was exclusive to the gamecube lol.

With that being said. I am sure Console piracy is on the arise but they don't want to admit it. But anyways I don't think it was just piracy that killed the PC exclusive. What really did is the simple fact people are technically challenged when it comes to PC's. I think that's what killed the PC exclusives. People don't know about PC components yet alone the word "component" is too much for them lol. If they can't even recognize whats inside their store bought branded PC. What makes you think they can build a kick ass PC?

Like I sad this is what killed PC exclusives.

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#36 haberman13
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I work with two guys who exclusively pirate on consoles, so it definitely happens.

Lots of thieves on PC though, can't argue that. Who cares though, let them be immoral pieces of poo, it will come back to them in the end.

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#37 HaloinventedFPS
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Out of the easy consoles to pirate is the wii lol. In fact the emu for it feels like the real console.

http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/ that the site for the emu. Its free and its open source and it works. I can play Resident Evil Remake And zero that was exclusive to the gamecube lol.

With that being said. I am sure Console piracy is on the arise but they don't want to admit it. But anyways I don't think it was just piracy that killed the PC exclusive. What really did is the simple fact people are technically challenged when it comes to PC's. I think that's what killed the PC exclusives. People don't know about PC components yet alone the word "component" is too much for them lol. If they can't even recognize whats inside their store bought branded PC. What makes you think they can build a kick ass PC?

Like I sad this is what killed PC exclusives.

MarioJP_

depends, if its a low end game and its a good game with good multiplayer, aka blizzard, prepare to be the most succesful dev of all time, or if its a high end game with boring gameplay and dead multiplayer, well... ya know

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#38 HaloinventedFPS
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I work with two guys who exclusively pirate on consoles, so it definitely happens.

Lots of thieves on PC though, can't argue that. Who cares though, let them be immoral pieces of poo, it will come back to them in the end.

haberman13

we also cant argue about used game sales

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anyway, these yearly list of most pirated games never show the PSP and DS to make the PC look worse

HaloinventedFPS

This is a good point... it's good that the PS3 hasn't seen as much piracy (yet...), but the PSP has been practically destroyed by it.

However, I still have yet to see ANYONE who can provide evidence of this:

(also BC2 sold best on PC)

HaloinventedFPS

Seriously, let's see a link to some official sales numbers or a statement from DICE. And if your proof is that tired, old, oft-misinterpreted statement that the PC had more players online than either console at one specific instant in time, don't even bother posting it.

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#40 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

anyway, these yearly list of most pirated games never show the PSP and DS to make the PC look worse

lowe0

This is a good point... it's good that the PS3 hasn't seen as much piracy, but the PSP has been practically destroyed by it. However, I still have yet to see ANYONE who can provide evidence of this:

(also BC2 sold best on PC)

HaloinventedFPS

Seriously, let's see a link to some official sales numbers or a statement from DICE. And if your proof is that tired, old, oft-misinterpreted statement that the PC had more players online than either console at one specific instant in time, don't even bother posting it.

go on the BC2 website, look at the steam charts

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#41 MarioJP_
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depends, if its a low end game and its a good game with good multiplayer, aka blizzard, prepare to be the most succesful dev of all time, or if its a high end game with boring gameplay and dead multiplayer, well... ya know

HaloinventedFPS

See that is exactly what I am saying the game runs only because its not demanding on the system so the end user is going to be "oh this is the best game I ever played". If this game was not low end I can bet you the user will be frustrated and want his/her money back and not bother to investigate to why the game is not runnig or is running slow.

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#42 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]However, I still have yet to see ANYONE who can provide evidence of this: [QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

(also BC2 sold best on PC)

HaloinventedFPS

Seriously, let's see a link to some official sales numbers or a statement from DICE. And if your proof is that tired, old, oft-misinterpreted statement that the PC had more players online than either console at one specific instant in time, don't even bother posting it.

go on the BC2 website, look at the steam charts

The BC2 website lists hours played and kills, not unique players per platform. And the Steam charts list relative sales rank, not absolute copies sold.

Edit: fixed stat for BC2 site.

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#43 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Seriously, let's see a link to some official sales numbers or a statement from DICE. And if your proof is that tired, old, oft-misinterpreted statement that the PC had more players online than either console at one specific instant in time, don't even bother posting it.lowe0

go on the BC2 website, look at the steam charts

The BC2 website lists players online, not unique players per platform. And the Steam charts list relative sales rank, not absolute copies sold.

oh cmon we all know it sold best on PC, BC2 stop selling on consoles as soon as the next hyped fps came out, its a fact PC games have long legs

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#44 MarioJP_
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Didn't i read that the NPD does not include online sales accurately? More plays means obviously people are playing that game mostly. Whether its ranking system or sales the fact is there are lot of players.

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#45 mucgoo
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PC google search-magnet link-winrar-magicdisk-copy and paste XBOX download flash files-open up xbox(void warranty)-connect with sata cable to pc-flash-reassemble-google search-magnet link-burn dvd-possibly get banned from xbox live
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#46 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

go on the BC2 website, look at the steam charts

HaloinventedFPS

The BC2 website lists players online, not unique players per platform. And the Steam charts list relative sales rank, not absolute copies sold.

oh cmon we all know it sold best on PC, BC2 stop selling on consoles as soon as the next hyped fps came out, its a fact PC games have long legs

Last I checked, "aw cmon" was not a valid source of statistics. Let's see some proof.
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#47 MarioJP_
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the only problem with Proof is you won't get any as they are not being reported the closets thing would be steam. Also because PC gaming has 0 marketing campaign unlike consoles which won't help one bit. Fact of the matter is consoles is the publisher's marketing dream. If a 1M copies of this game was to be sold on PC it be like whatever.

If that same amount was sold on consoles however you be hearing it like the apple get a mac comercials lol.

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#48 lowe0
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the only problem with Proof is you won't get any as they are not being reported the closets thing would be steam. Also because PC gaming has 0 marketing campaign unlike consoles which won't help one bit.

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Certainly he had some source before he claimed it, right?
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#49 MarioJP_
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[QUOTE="MarioJP_"]

the only problem with Proof is you won't get any as they are not being reported the closets thing would be steam. Also because PC gaming has 0 marketing campaign unlike consoles which won't help one bit.

lowe0

Certainly he had some source before he claimed it, right?

I mean who knows it could be true but then again we won't know as no one cares to report. Not reporting is just as bad of not many copies being sold regardless if that game did made a sale or not.

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#50 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Pc:Buy...nothing.Lto_thaG

PS3/Wii can be cracked as easy as a torrent can be downloaded

seen the new news for PS3, doesnt even need a dongle anymore soon

Yeah,I'm done with this.My point was that pc pirating is the easiest way to pirate.

Good, you do realize that we havnt disagreed with you, just stating its barely any kind of valid point because anyone that wants games for free... anyone with who knows how to use the internet can do all the consoles piracy (bar 360) .