Once PS3 Gets In Game XMB... How will Xbox live be better?!

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#1 ChristopherM80
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I was just thinking about something, and as a owner of both consoles.. I realized that the only thing xbox live has over PSN is the ability to view and respond to messages while playing a game, inviting friends to games and cross game chatting.. Once the PS3 gets ingame XMB i really will see no difference whatsoever between xbox live and PSN.. PSN has a very solid amount of demos, downloadable games and movie trailers as does xbox live. I mean im not trying to be "Smart" by saying this, but really the only difference will be acheivements and the fact that xbox live costs a monthly fee.
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Because it doesn't have to keep playing catch up and constantly worrying about the competition's product.
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#3 MunkeySpunk69
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i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at.
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Because it doesn't have to keep playing catch up and constantly worrying about the competition's product.USSJAndrew

dirts, true

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#5 The_Game21x
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If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

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#6 p2rus
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Because it doesn't have to keep playing catch up and constantly worrying about the competition's product.USSJAndrew

the devils advocate in me says that there are rumors that ms is releasing a competitor to home.

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i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. MunkeySpunk69

Meanwhile MS try to subract from the freeXBL experience by making you pay for things that were once free.

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#8 LastRedMage
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well uh you um some one the.... best ps3 game is "just wait" oh what now cow

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[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. Marka1700

Meanwhile MS try to subract from the freeXBL experience by making you pay for things that were once free.

like....?

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#10 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. MunkeySpunk69

Meanwhile MS try to subract from the freeXBL experience by making you pay for things that were once free.

like....?

Silver users must now wait for new content and demos.

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#11 ChristopherM80
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. MunkeySpunk69

Meanwhile MS try to subract from the freeXBL experience by making you pay for things that were once free.

like....?

Well online gaming for starters.. Free on the PS2 and dreamcast before xbox live was released

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[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. Marka1700

Meanwhile MS try to subract from the freeXBL experience by making you pay for things that were once free.

like....?

Silver users must now wait for new content and demos.

who gives a crap about silver users.

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#13 p2rus
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who gives a crap about silver users.

MunkeySpunk69

you work for ms dont you?

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#14 MunkeySpunk69
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[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]

who gives a crap about silver users.

p2rus

you work for ms dont you?

hahahaha, true

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If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

The_Game21x

Indeed.

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#16 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. MunkeySpunk69

Meanwhile MS try to subract from the freeXBL experience by making you pay for things that were once free.

like....?

Silver users must now wait for new content and demos.

who gives a crap about silver users.

Brilliant attitude, What are you, 12.

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#20 LastRedMage
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If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

The_Game21x

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

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#21 GIJames248
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Because we pay for it! And... uh... that makes it better? Wait, let me try again. Because we can pay for all those extra maps and picture that are free on computer and we get P2P! Nevermind that one. It's because we have a $5 a month friend list!
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#22 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

LastRedMage

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

Perhaps the fact that every game supports full voice chat, and the much better marketplace for starters...

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#23 King_of_Sorrow
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PSN has its perks

XBL has its perks.

Stop comparing the two. You just going to get bias views if you do.

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#24 Heil68
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XBL is on another level that quite frankly I dont see PSN getting to.
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#25 Rikusaki
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i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. MunkeySpunk69

Exept PSN is free. I would rather have all the features XBL had a year ago. I don't want to pay money for something I already have. All I want to be able to do is communicate and play online. Thats it. PSN has it. And guess what? Its completely free.

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#26 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]

who gives a crap about silver users.

MunkeySpunk69

Brilliant attiduted, What are you, 12.

yeah, im twelve, and i just got back from a rootin-tootin boy scout trip :roll: . BTW, nice spelling, what are you "special"?

Zing!! LOL.
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I am starting to find the games on XBL being worth the fee, and yet I'm still a bit negative or... caustious I suppose. But truth be spoken, the service is great, and I don't think PSN still comes close. Bringing up the XMB isn't going to solve it....
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#28 King_of_Sorrow
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[QUOTE="LastRedMage"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

The_Game21x

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

Perhaps the fact that every game supports full voice chat, and the much better marketplace for starters...

Seriously, I'm happy you justifying your $50.Don't want to compare the two services, but there is nothing wrong going with PSN if you simply want to enjoy online gaming. If you're the bells and whistles type of guy then you would go with XBL.

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#29 100Gamer
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

BioShockOwnz

Indeed.

true

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#30 heretrix
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[QUOTE="LastRedMage"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

The_Game21x

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

Perhaps the fact that every game supports full voice chat, and the much better marketplace for starters...

Yeah, the voicechat on PSN is horrid. But then again, that is probably a blessing given some of the intellectual convos I hear on live..:?
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[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. Rikusaki

Exept PSN is free. I would rather have all the features XBL had a year ago. I don't want to pay money for something I already have. All I want to be able to do is communicate and play online. Thats it. PSN has it. And guess what? Its completely free.

While others would like more features, and options, hence the reason they pay the premium.
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#32 100Gamer
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[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]

who gives a crap about silver users.

heretrix

Brilliant attiduted, What are you, 12.

yeah, im twelve, and i just got back from a rootin-tootin boy scout trip :roll: . BTW, nice spelling, what are you "special"?

Zing!! LOL.

ouch :lol:

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#33 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="LastRedMage"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

heretrix

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

Perhaps the fact that every game supports full voice chat, and the much better marketplace for starters...

Yeah, the voicechat is horrid. But then again, that is probably a blessing given some of the intellectual convos I hear on live..:?

It's an option nonetheless. However, not everyone will have the same experience. I don't get many obnoxious morons on XBL while playing Halo 3 often. However, at my level, you get more people who want to win I suppose, and more arrogant "I'm the best" attitudes of other players.
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#34 King_of_Sorrow
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="LastRedMage"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

heretrix

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

Perhaps the fact that every game supports full voice chat, and the much better marketplace for starters...

Yeah, the voicechat on PSN is horrid. But then again, that is probably a blessing given some of the intellectual convos I hear on live..:?

horrid? Every online game has voice chat. What's so horrid about that? Your mentality is downgrading something because it's not the better choice. Bad mentality.

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#35 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. yoshi_64

Exept PSN is free. I would rather have all the features XBL had a year ago. I don't want to pay money for something I already have. All I want to be able to do is communicate and play online. Thats it. PSN has it. And guess what? Its completely free.

While others would like more features, and options, hence the reason they pay the premium.

Why pay when you can have all those extra features and options with firmware updates on the PS3? When in-game XMB comes out, why pay when you can have it all for free?

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#36 100Gamer
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]

Brilliant attiduted, What are you, 12.

MunkeySpunk69

yeah, im twelve, and i just got back from a rootin-tootin boy scout trip :roll: . BTW, nice spelling, what are you "special"?

If you want to insult my intelligence. I have an OP of4 and a GPA of 6.3 in 2nd year Bachelor of Information Tehcnology

That is impressive. Im so glad they give educations to people like you now, it just warms my heart.

nice :lol:

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. Rikusaki

Exept PSN is free. I would rather have all the features XBL had a year ago. I don't want to pay money for something I already have. All I want to be able to do is communicate and play online. Thats it. PSN has it. And guess what? Its completely free.

While others would like more features, and options, hence the reason they pay the premium.

Why pay when you can have all those extra features and options with firmware updates on the PS3? When in-game XMB comes out, why pay when you can have it all for free?

because PSN doesnt play halo 3 online :(

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#38 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="LastRedMage"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

King_of_Sorrow

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

Perhaps the fact that every game supports full voice chat, and the much better marketplace for starters...

Seriously, I'm happy you justifying your $50.Don't want to compare the two services, but there is nothing wrong going with PSN if you simply want to enjoy online gaming. If you're the bells and whistles type of guy then you would go with XBL.

When you get a online service that has some games with service rivaling Nintendo's support. (GH III no friends support, but Wii GH III does?) or a service with features of that like the Wii's... heck let's just say... online gaming experience wise, its' like playing on Wii for the most part. You don't have Voice chat for all games, some with issues, and you have some features that aren't fully executed properly. That's why PSN seems to remind me of, online play wise.
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. Rikusaki

Exept PSN is free. I would rather have all the features XBL had a year ago. I don't want to pay money for something I already have. All I want to be able to do is communicate and play online. Thats it. PSN has it. And guess what? Its completely free.

While others would like more features, and options, hence the reason they pay the premium.

Why pay when you can have all those extra features and options with firmware updates on the PS3? When in-game XMB comes out, why pay when you can have it all for free?

im sorry but i have to do this. basically you are saying JUST WAIT.

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#41 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. Rikusaki

Exept PSN is free. I would rather have all the features XBL had a year ago. I don't want to pay money for something I already have. All I want to be able to do is communicate and play online. Thats it. PSN has it. And guess what? Its completely free.

While others would like more features, and options, hence the reason they pay the premium.

Why pay when you can have all those extra features and options with firmware updates on the PS3? When in-game XMB comes out, why pay when you can have it all for free?

In-game XMB won't resolve the problems, not to mention that XBL gets two updates a year. PS3's updates are never really something that come in big, but they do come often or at a nice pace. Still, there's no word on WHEN that will be. Sure, when it comes it will be nice, but at that time, XBL is still growing and adding new features. PSN still is trying to play catch-up after a year being out. One year, and still no in-game XMB. One year and no RSS feed features, not even like half the content of XBLM content, or XBLA, and games quality wise on the market/arcade. One year and still no Voice Chat support STANDARD in all online games. Need I go on?
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When you get a online service that has some games with service rivaling Nintendo's support. (GH III no friends support, but Wii GH III does?) or a service with features of that like the Wii's... heck let's just say... online gaming experience wise, its' like playing on Wii for the most part. You don't have Voice chat for all games, some with issues, and you have some features that aren't fully executed properly. That's why PSN seems to remind me of, online play wise.
yoshi_64

Name me one online game without voice chat on PSN? And if you can, how great of significance is it, when most PS3 games have voice chat online? I don't want to debate about something so small. I will ask you this. Do you even have a PS3?

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#43 yoshi_64
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because PSN doesnt play halo 3 online :(

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That has nothing to do with it, but Halo 3 is one great game to play online with friends. Show me a PSN online game that's as featured rich as Halo 3 please. Saved films, file sharing, 4 player co-op campaign, online matches ranked and social, and a community as active and lively as that one? Frankly, IMO over the months I've played Halo 3 online, it's becoming the sole reason I even pay for this service at times. I was very adamant about XBL, but now I'm embracing it. Not to say XBL is just Halo only. DOA 4, R6, Forza, and a few other games I own are great to play online too and have a surplus of features to support online play.
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#44 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="LastRedMage"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If you really think the in game messaging is the only advantage Live has over the PSN, you clearly have not been using Xbox Live. :|

King_of_Sorrow

its not just messaging you canbring up the cross media bar

what else is there just less ppl have mics

Perhaps the fact that every game supports full voice chat, and the much better marketplace for starters...

Seriously, I'm happy you justifying your $50.Don't want to compare the two services, but there is nothing wrong going with PSN if you simply want to enjoy online gaming. If you're the bells and whistles type of guy then you would go with XBL.

I'm not trying to justify my $50 spent on XBL. The excellent slew of online games I've been playing do that themselves.

I never said there's anything wrong with thePSN per se, just that it's not as good as Xbox Live based on my personal experience with the two services. And yes, I'm a bells and whistles kind of guy. I always go for the best when I buy things.

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Considering you already hate XBOX Live and the XBOX in general, I doubt you think XBOX Live is superior now.
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#46 njean777
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i think they are both the same but i refuse to pay for a service i can get for free on the ps3 if there is a game for the 360 i want for live then i will pay for it
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="MunkeySpunk69"]i agree, everything psn does. it does to try and get to the same level xbl is at. yoshi_64

Exept PSN is free. I would rather have all the features XBL had a year ago. I don't want to pay money for something I already have. All I want to be able to do is communicate and play online. Thats it. PSN has it. And guess what? Its completely free.

While others would like more features, and options, hence the reason they pay the premium.

Why pay when you can have all those extra features and options with firmware updates on the PS3? When in-game XMB comes out, why pay when you can have it all for free?

In-game XMB won't resolve the problems, not to mention that XBL gets two updates a year. PS3's updates are never really something that come in big, but they do come often or at a nice pace. Still, there's no word on WHEN that will be. Sure, when it comes it will be nice, but at that time, XBL is still growing and adding new features. PSN still is trying to play catch-up after a year being out. One year, and still no in-game XMB. One year and no RSS feed features, not even like half the content of XBLM content, or XBLA, and games quality wise on the market/arcade. One year and still no Voice Chat support STANDARD in all online games. Need I go on?

I'd rather have it play catch up for free than pay for something that is only slightly ahead. The features that are built in to the online game itself are usually good enough for me. And EVERY SINGLE online PS3 game that I own has voice chat.

  • Resistance
  • Warhawk
  • Unreal 3

Those games that I listed are the top online games for the PS3. And they all have voice chat. I would call that standard. And two more online games are coming to the PS3. Burnout Paradise and GT5 Prologue. GT5P will have 16 players with voice chat. I downloaded the Burnout Paradise demo form the PS Store and it lets you go online with voice chat. All the major online games for the PS3 have voice chat. Can you even tell me one online PS3 game that doesn't have voice chat? Just one? I bet you can't.

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]When you get a online service that has some games with service rivaling Nintendo's support. (GH III no friends support, but Wii GH III does?) or a service with features of that like the Wii's... heck let's just say... online gaming experience wise, its' like playing on Wii for the most part. You don't have Voice chat for all games, some with issues, and you have some features that aren't fully executed properly. That's why PSN seems to remind me of, online play wise.
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Name me one online game without voice chat on PSN? And if you can, how great of significance is it, when most PS3 games have voice chat online? I don't want to debate about something so small. I will ask you this. Do you even have a PS3?

Currently, UT3 is having some "voice chat" problems if I'm correct. Maybe it does have the "option" listed in the manual, but it certainly isn't "there" by my terms. However, yes you have it, but then again... like I said...

Also, does it make a significance? Hell yes. Short and simple, this day and age, it's a MUST for me. Forget about "The whiny pubescent kids! :cry:" and "I'm being questioned of my sexuality/beliefs/etc by some kid!"

That will come everywhere, but truth be spoken. It's nice to have a form of communicating that's quick and easy. You telling me we should go back to the days of text messaging in-game? I think not.. "McIekUb376 watch out for that ROCKET@!!!"... "Too late..." yeah, typing that would be fun. or "Behind you Mi9ke*3" "Go LEft!1" etc, etc. For games that require teamwork, or even some games that just thrive on communication and are fun. It's nice to have, plus I play lots of my games with my friends. So, I want to talk to them, not be typing to them.

Anyways, I as of now do no currently own one. Yes I am speaking mostly based on what I've had short time with, read from websites like IGN/Gamespot, and feedback from friends that own the system.

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i dont get it....all these people complaining about paying for xbox live...what about world of warcraft...thats just a single game and you pay $15 a month for it...i know its a very big game but still just a game....xbox live is an entire service that has WAY more features than a single game...you pay more a year for world of warcraft then xbox live...plus xbox live is $50 a year...if you cant pay that then you are a bum on the streets....and some of you might say well if you cant pay $15 a month for world of warcraft then you are a bum but thats not the point ...once again the point is its a game compared to and entire service.....you pay for a cell phone bill because thats a service.......you pay for a plumber because thats a service...you pay for cable because thats a service...so stop whining
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[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]When you get a online service that has some games with service rivaling Nintendo's support. (GH III no friends support, but Wii GH III does?) or a service with features of that like the Wii's... heck let's just say... online gaming experience wise, its' like playing on Wii for the most part. You don't have Voice chat for all games, some with issues, and you have some features that aren't fully executed properly. That's why PSN seems to remind me of, online play wise.
yoshi_64

Name me one online game without voice chat on PSN? And if you can, how great of significance is it, when most PS3 games have voice chat online? I don't want to debate about something so small. I will ask you this. Do you even have a PS3?

Currently, UT3 is having some "voice chat" problems if I'm correct. Maybe it does have the "option" listed in the manual, but it certainly isn't "there" by my terms. However, yes you have it, but then again... like I said...

Also, does it make a significance? Hell yes. Short and simple, this day and age, it's a MUST for me. Forget about "The whiny pubescent kids! :cry:" and "I'm being questioned of my sexuality/beliefs/etc by some kid!"

That will come everywhere, but truth be spoken. It's nice to have a form of communicating that's quick and easy. You telling me we should go back to the days of text messaging in-game? I think not.. "McIekUb376 watch out for that ROCKET@!!!"... "Too late..." yeah, typing that would be fun. or "Behind you Mi9ke*3" "Go LEft!1" etc, etc. For games that require teamwork, or even some games that just thrive on communication and are fun. It's nice to have, plus I play lots of my games with my friends. So, I want to talk to them, not be typing to them.

Anyways, I as of now do no currently own one. Yes I am speaking mostly based on what I've had short time with, read from websites like IGN/Gamespot, and feedback from friends that own the system.

Wrong. UT3 on the PS3 has voice chat and it works perfectly. How do I know? I own the game myself.