One CEO wants an end to games retail

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#101 milannoir
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Its gonna happen eventually anyway. MrSelf-Destruct

I agree...

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#102 Nintendo_Ownes7
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I'd rather hold my licenses in my hand. Sure it's going to happen but I'll be one of the last to buy retail.

Vivas les Hard Copies!

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I agree I still purcahse other media as hard copy because I collect the games and I love having them on my shelf.

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#103 jamejame
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I'm sure it would be better for the insustry, but I'm opposed to it. I like owning a physical copy of what I pay for.

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#104 Heil68
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I think disks will always be an option as not everyone has internet.
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#105 Sandvichman
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Yeah, not until broadband becomes useable everywhere, sure isnt so in the US, not to mention that retail has a large chunk of inlfuence at the nmoment, dont expect it to go retai lfor a decade or two.

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#106 jer_1
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Hells no, I will always resist this. Hardcopy for me or no sale.

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#107 Hexagon_777
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The day it goes all DD is the day I quit gaming.HaLoMaStErJT
I wonder how long that will last for...

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#108 demonic_85
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Already happened on PC. I find it way more convienient to buy a game online and download it in an hour vs spending the same amount of time getting dressed, going to the store, buying the game + tax, and driving home.

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#109 PurpleMan5000
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Already happened on PC. I find it way more convienient to buy a game online and download it in an hour vs spending the same amount of time getting dressed, going to the store, buying the game + tax, and driving home.

demonic_85
Actually, it hasn't already happened. PC games are still sold at retail.
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#110 DerekLoffin
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[QUOTE="demonic_85"]

Already happened on PC. I find it way more convienient to buy a game online and download it in an hour vs spending the same amount of time getting dressed, going to the store, buying the game + tax, and driving home.

PurpleMan5000
Actually, it hasn't already happened. PC games are still sold at retail.

Yeah, many people seem to confuse the option of DD with DD being a requirement. DD is an awesome option, it is when it becomes the requirement that people have problems.
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#111 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Apparently disk swapping is the worst thing to happen since the black death according to this thread http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28627251/la-noire-on-360-is-3-discs.?tag=topics%3Btitleso it appears manyPS3 ownersdesperatly want digital downloads so they don't have to inch from their couch every 10 hrs. :P

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#112 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

How will people acquire handheld games? I like to buy a game disc when buying a game- not something online whenere if something happens to your PC or other console that it disappears for good.

N30F3N1X

Either joke or very misinformed post. Games don't simply "disappear". They can still be downloaded again through D2D services.

"If something happens to your PC" you have more important things to think of rather than games. Besides, your statement is completely wrong - digital games only "disappear" if your HDD(s) become unusable.

Even if that were to happen, downloading a bunch of games once your machine is back online is an overnight job.

What is this a joke?

1.I can download them again through D2D services? Games now are already 11 Gigs and they're only going to get bigger. I have highspeed internet 40gig bandwith limit before I have to pay extra now keep in mined I play a lot online and I hardly ever come close to the 20Gig mark let alone the 40, but if I have to download all my games again it's going to cost me almost as much.

2. I have more important things to worry about? So I'm just susposed to abandon all my games I've bought and payed for? What if it's a Console HDD that gets fryed? My games are the only thing I have to worry about and if I got 15-20 games it's going to be a lot longer than an overnight job.

3. Like I said games now are 11Gigs and are only going to get bigger, but internet companies are going to want money for every bite. Internet bandwith limits are getting less and less so on top of buying the game I'll have to pay extra just for the download.

4. I Have no rights with D2D! Hey I want to take my game to a friends house, but I can't. I want to sell my game, but I cant, The game I bought is a glichy mess I want to return it, but I can't. Bioware shut down a guys account because he mouthed off on a fourm and he couldn't play his game; One guy with over 1000$ stream account got it locked because he tried to sell it. You have no rights as a consumer in fact with D2D they act like you're just lucky to be able to give them money to be able to play and if you don't like somthing tough you already given them your money.

5.PSP GO FYI it wasn't all Sonys fault it failed like some people want to think somtimes it's just not a good method of doing things.

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#113 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="legol1"]if the psp go learn us something is consumer is far from ready for a full download system.Hexagon_777

The PSP Go didn't fail because of digital distribution, but because Sony failed to give it the necessary support. No UMD conversion, not all games released to retail were released on PSN, the price was too high, and so on. Simply ridiculous. Sony issues.

1. No not all game, but most of them and Xbox live and PSN has taken D2D games off. 2. Price was too high? And you think any other company will be cheaper? Think again if anything they will be more expensive for longer not to mention the bandwith cost and every right you have as a consumer litteraly striped away. 3. Having only D2D option is ridiculous in my books and I'd buy 1/10 of the games I do now probably just for go gamming altogether. Dispite what D2D fanboys may think/say there will always be a market for a hardcopy for movies and games. This isn't like music CD's where about 15 years ago people had to buy a whole CD of bad songs to get one good one and with that said CDs are still being sold.
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#114 cantor2537
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I see Gamestop going the way of Blockbuster and HMV and the other record stores if this continues. Think about it, first DD was popularized for music (easy to do because each file or album was small). Then Netflix came along (along with iTunes/XBL/PSN to rent movies) because we had faster Internet connections. The next step is video games.

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#115 turtlethetaffer
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I don't see why it's necassary, but whatever. It won't happen for while.

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#116 bri360
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Funny how not even a year ago people were basically calling me an idiot for saying such things. People can be so short sighted at times.

sandbox3d

This pretty much, Ive been saying DD is the way to go for a while now, everything on steam is cheeper and so easy adn convinient. I dont need a plastic box that just destroys the environment in the long run.

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#117 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Funny how not even a year ago people were basically calling me an idiot for saying such things. People can be so short sighted at times.

bri360

This pretty much, Ive been saying DD is the way to go for a while now, everything on steam is cheeper and so easy adn convinient. I dont need a plastic box that just destroys the environment in the long run.

Explain how it's cheaper? For game Devas maybe not for consumers
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#118 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Funny how not even a year ago people were basically calling me an idiot for saying such things. People can be so short sighted at times.

bri360

This pretty much, Ive been saying DD is the way to go for a while now, everything on steam is cheeper and so easy adn convinient. I dont need a plastic box that just destroys the environment in the long run.

What's happening with Sony now has no affect with DD? The environment is a petty reason to switch everything to DD. I think recycling centers accept plastic. If they don't accept plastic game boxes, well.

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#119 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="legol1"]if the psp go learn us something is consumer is far from ready for a full download system.Shielder7

The PSP Go didn't fail because of digital distribution, but because Sony failed to give it the necessary support. No UMD conversion, not all games released to retail were released on PSN, the price was too high, and so on. Simply ridiculous. Sony issues.

1. No not all game, but most of them and Xbox live and PSN has taken D2D games off.

2. Price was too high? And you think any other company will be cheaper? Think again if anything they will be more expensive for longer not to mention the bandwith cost and every right you have as a consumer litteraly striped away.

3. Having only D2D option is ridiculous in my books and I'd buy 1/10 of the games I do now probably just for go gamming altogether. Dispite what D2D fanboys may think/say there will always be a market for a hardcopy for movies and games. This isn't like music CD's where about 15 years ago people had to buy a whole CD of bad songs to get one good one and with that said CDs are still being sold.

Regarding point one, some major games didn't see a digital release I believe. I don't understand the point about XBL and PSN. Concerning point two, I was talking about the hardware which simply didn't compare to previous PSP iterations. Concerning point three, no idea what that has to do with the PSP Go. I was simply commenting on how the PSP Go is a bad example to use against digital distribution.

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#120 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="bri360"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Funny how not even a year ago people were basically calling me an idiot for saying such things. People can be so short sighted at times.

Shielder7

This pretty much, Ive been saying DD is the way to go for a while now, everything on steam is cheeper and so easy adn convinient. I dont need a plastic box that just destroys the environment in the long run.

Explain how it's cheaper? For game Devas maybe not for consumers

The sales are pretty sweet.

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#121 Locutus_Picard
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Funny how not even a year ago people were basically calling me an idiot for saying such things. People can be so short sighted at times.

bri360

This pretty much, Ive been saying DD is the way to go for a while now, everything on steam is cheeper and so easy adn convinient. I dont need a plastic box that just destroys the environment in the long run.

Steam is cheap but they're only doing it because they want a bigger share of the game (distribution) market on the PC and partly due to their own vision of bringing games cheap. PC gamers don't stand for being extorted, they vote with their wallets and go for other DD distributers or stick to retail. PC is a open platform and even how you procure your games is better than the consoles. DD-only on consoles will most likely be different and very expensive. As DD on consoles is pretty expensive and not as flexible/suitable as on PC...you can't argue for DD on consoles with Steam...both very different.
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#122 HCMBusiness_89
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I would love for that to happen. Just makes more sense imo.
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#123 N30F3N1X
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1.I can download them again through D2D services? Games now are already 11 Gigs and they're only going to get bigger. I have highspeed internet 40gig bandwith limit before I have to pay extra now keep in mined I play a lot online and I hardly ever come close to the 20Gig mark let alone the 40, but if I have to download all my games again it's going to cost me almost as much.Shielder7

Your problem. Does not in any way, shape, or form put a dent in my point. Get a contract with no bandwidth caps, like I did.

2. I have more important things to worry about? So I'm just susposed to abandon all my games I've bought and payed for? What if it's a Console HDD that gets fryed? My games are the only thing I have to worry about and if I got 15-20 games it's going to be a lot longer than an overnight job.Shielder7

If your PC stops working games are the last thing you are going to think about. Anyone with a clue about computers would tell you that.

Games aren't "abandoned", as I have explained in the very post you quoted.

3. Like I said games now are 11Gigs and are only going to get bigger, but internet companies are going to want money for every bite. Internet bandwith limits are getting less and less so on top of buying the game I'll have to pay extra just for the download.Shielder7

Reiteration of point 1. Why did you write this again?

4. I Have no rights with D2D! Hey I want to take my game to a friends house, but I can't. I want to sell my game, but I cant, The game I bought is a glichy mess I want to return it, but I can't. Bioware shut down a guys account because he mouthed off on a fourm and he couldn't play his game; One guy with over 1000$ stream account got it locked because he tried to sell it. You have no rights as a consumer in fact with D2D they act like you're just lucky to be able to give them money to be able to play and if you don't like somthing tough you already given them your money.Shielder7

External HDDs. Login with your account on your friend's house. Faster than any installation, period.

The game you bought is a glitchy mess - your problem. Gaming sites weren't written so you could spam on them. There's more to GS than just the forums and the score numbers. Ignorance is not a justification for anything.

That BioWare thing is the reason why you should never post in companies' specific forums unless it's a support issue or something.

One guy with an over 1000$ worth Steam (not "stream", this speaks volumes about how much you know of DD) account should've read the license agreement he *agreed* to when he signed up.

I wonder how long can you keep up this charade with physical media. Soon enough you won't have rights with them anymore either. Reselling games is one of the reasons DD is getting so much emphasis, and you have noone else to blame but yourself. It's your shortsightedness that will bite you in the ass in the long run.

5.PSP GO FYI it wasn't all Sonys fault it failed like some people want to think somtimes it's just not a good method of doing things.

Shielder7

"It wasn't all Sony's fault" is not an explanation. You either put some substance in your points or you do not mention them entirely.

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#124 James161324
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I think every company wants to do it. They can cut out the middle man, and cut down the costs of distribution.

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#125 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="Shielder7"]

1.I can download them again through D2D services? Games now are already 11 Gigs and they're only going to get bigger. I have highspeed internet 40gig bandwith limit before I have to pay extra now keep in mined I play a lot online and I hardly ever come close to the 20Gig mark let alone the 40, but if I have to download all my games again it's going to cost me almost as much.N30F3N1X

Your problem. Does not in any way, shape, or form put a dent in my point. Get a contract with no bandwidth caps, like I did.

2. I have more important things to worry about? So I'm just susposed to abandon all my games I've bought and payed for? What if it's a Console HDD that gets fryed? My games are the only thing I have to worry about and if I got 15-20 games it's going to be a lot longer than an overnight job.Shielder7

If your PC stops working games are the last thing you are going to think about. Anyone with a clue about computers would tell you that.

Games aren't "abandoned", as I have explained in the very post you quoted.

3. Like I said games now are 11Gigs and are only going to get bigger, but internet companies are going to want money for every bite. Internet bandwith limits are getting less and less so on top of buying the game I'll have to pay extra just for the download.Shielder7

Reiteration of point 1. Why did you write this again?

4. I Have no rights with D2D! Hey I want to take my game to a friends house, but I can't. I want to sell my game, but I cant, The game I bought is a glichy mess I want to return it, but I can't. Bioware shut down a guys account because he mouthed off on a fourm and he couldn't play his game; One guy with over 1000$ stream account got it locked because he tried to sell it. You have no rights as a consumer in fact with D2D they act like you're just lucky to be able to give them money to be able to play and if you don't like somthing tough you already given them your money.Shielder7

External HDDs. Login with your account on your friend's house. Faster than any installation, period.

The game you bought is a glitchy mess - your problem. Gaming sites weren't written so you could spam on them. There's more to GS than just the forums and the score numbers. Ignorance is not a justification for anything.

That BioWare thing is the reason why you should never post in companies' specific forums unless it's a support issue or something.

One guy with an over 1000$ worth Steam (not "stream", this speaks volumes about how much you know of DD) account should've read the license agreement he *agreed* to when he signed up.

I wonder how long can you keep up this charade with physical media. Soon enough you won't have rights with them anymore either. Reselling games is one of the reasons DD is getting so much emphasis, and you have noone else to blame but yourself. It's your shortsightedness that will bite you in the ass in the long run.

5.PSP GO FYI it wasn't all Sonys fault it failed like some people want to think somtimes it's just not a good method of doing things.

Shielder7

"It wasn't all Sony's fault" is not an explanation. You either put some substance in your points or you do not mention them entirely.

1. So anyone that games has to opt for the no bandwidth caps that keep increasing in price? I don't like that idea not when I could just opt for a much cheaper plan from just buying hard copies like I like to do it would more than double my gameing expense I'd have to pay more for banwidth cap in the long run than my games. The way thing are going a no bandwidth cap is going to cost an arm & leg or not even be an option and yes it does put a dent in your point a big one if you can't see it........................... :roll:

2. I got nothing on my PC tht can't easily be replaced or thats not on an enternal stick and once again what if it's a console HDD that goes? Saying you got better thing to worry about isn't a strong argument.

3. Because it's a good point.

4. So now I have to buy External HDD's on top of a no bandwidth cap just because I can't buy a hard copy?:?

5. So it's my problem a game I bought is a mess? I guss that means I can't Pre-Order or buy a game on release day because it's my fault if a games complete crap? Thanks but no thanks I'd sooner just take the time and return it instead of being stuck with the bill, but I can't if it's D2D.

6. So I should never post on fourms or voice my opinion on a game out of fear they will take my game away? K got it

7. Grats you caught me in a spelling type o. It doesn't chage the fact the license agreement means you have no rights and basically own nothing with D2D

I wonder how long can you keep up this charade with physical media. Soon enough you won't have rights with them anymore either. Reselling games is one of the reasons DD is getting so much emphasis, and you have noone else to blame but yourself. It's your shortsightedness that will bite you in the ass in the long run N30F3N1X

8.It's my fault that D2D is getting so much emphasis because I excerise my consumer rights to sell/trade in a game THAT I bought and payed for to IB games or Gamestop? ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS??!!!??!!?!?!?!!?!??!!?!?

Well you're right one of us is shortsighted, but I don't think it's me..:roll:

9. PSP GO failed because a lot of people don't like D2D for the reasions I've mentioned period.