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#1 ChocolatePimp
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Yep I said it , one game , to define a whole  genre, Some say say its impossible,I think for some genres it can't be done, But I tried my best so TAKE A LOOK, IF you agree ,disagree, if Im missing a genre, or if you think Im all wrong. PLEASE LET ME KNOW, OR MAKE YOUR OWN LIST

Genres..............

Free Roam(new genre)- GTA, (hands down) (all)

FPS- Halo (you can kinda guess) (all)

Racing/SIM - Grand turismo (all) / moto GP (for bikes) (all)

Racing /arcade- Burnout (2 to revenge)

Sports- (EA sports company ), its impossible to say one sports game to define all , so I say the whole company, they make NHL,NBA live,Tiger woods, Maddenopoly (madden) ,rugby,FILA,MLB  ETC..

Fighting- Mortal combat

Wresling- Smackdown (all)

Street fight/Beat em up- Def JAM (2 only)

RPG- dare i say it........  Final Fantasy........NoT crono trigger???......OMG!!! ..( you probably guessed)

RTS- Command and conquer (all)

Army/War- Battle Field  (any)

Action/adventure - It would have been another GTA, but Gears Of War has recently " took the cake"

Fantasy/action /adventure- Well Zelda would have taken this spot, but I'll have to give it to FABLE...YEAH I SAID IT,( well, typed it ).... FABLE...sorry zelda fans, but keep in mind ...I never played TP,... so .....

Stealth/action-  MGS (all)

Horror- RE4 (only)

music/dance- Dance Dance Revolution(all)......DUHHHH .....you thought i was gonna say parappa the rapper?

movie based - The warriors

Family- the sims (all)..besides hot date ..not family but good

I may have added some, but I hate to leave any Genres out, so if I did, let me know, and one game you think should "define " it ....if you disagree, correct it , just don't tell me you disagree, Im here ,to hear opinions, not to be yell at for My opinions of which game is better at defining.... if you disagre, show me what you think should be there instead of acting all "pissy".

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#2 Vyse_The_Daring
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People are going to freak out over you giving the FPS to Halo.
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#3 air0123
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How about this, whatever game I pick, for any genre, is better than any game you pick.
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movie based - The warriors

...Goldeneye...

RTS- Command and conquer (all)

*craft...

FPS- Halo (you can kinda guess) (all)

...Doom...
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#5 Hewkii
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wait...how is Gears an Action-Adventure?
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I disagree with almost all of them.
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#7 harry2k5
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where is mario for platformers and street fighter 2 STILL defines the essence of the fighting genre
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#8 DireToad
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FPS should really go to Half-Life.
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I disagree with almost all of them.Zuluking187
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Umm, no offence, but EA makes some of the WORST sports games. People actually started online petitions because NBA 07 was of such low quality. 2K sports on the other hand...
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#12 Conker-Fan
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you dont even have all the genres? WRPGs anyone? 
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FPS should really go to Half-Life.DireToad
Nah. HL is the _best_, but Doom defined the genre as we know it.
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movie based - The warriorsQuack_Attack

...Goldeneye...

RTS- Command and conquer (all)

*craft...

FPS- Halo (you can kinda guess) (all)

...Doom...


Doom games really havent been good ever. The best was 1 and very overated- it wasnt really fun even at the time
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[QUOTE="Zuluking187"]I disagree with almost all of them.web966

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[QUOTE="DireToad"]FPS should really go to Half-Life.Quack_Attack
Nah. HL is the _best_, but Doom defined the genre as we know it.



Well if you want to go by that, Wolfenstein should win.
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Fighting goes to Street Fighter 2. First game to have 8 completely difrent fighters? First fighting game "not beat em up like Final FIght) to be truly popular? It almost singlehandidly kept the arcade alive for 4 or 5 years!
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#19 Mr-Prezident
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wait...how is Gears an Action-Adventure?Hewkii
thats what im saying, and halo :lol: and he said mortal combat for fighting, it was awesome 15 years ago but tekken is king now.
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#20 Mr-Prezident
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Umm, no offence, but EA makes some of the WORST sports games. People actually started online petitions because NBA 07 was of such low quality. 2K sports on the other hand...Hot_Potato
yup 2k is the best, and with them coming back to football...
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[QUOTE="Quack_Attack"][QUOTE="DireToad"]FPS should really go to Half-Life.DireToad
Nah. HL is the _best_, but Doom defined the genre as we know it.



Well if you want to go by that, Wolfenstein should win.

Not really. By that logic, Pong should define all genres of home video games. I think that more people would remember Doom than would remember Wolfenstein. Like, there were console FPS games before Goldeneye (I assume) and Halo, but those are really genre defining.
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Let's see. Free Roam - Grand Theft Auto 3 for sure. FPS - Doom was such a phenomenon, but I can see Halo, however. Racing (sim) - Gran Turismo 3 or 4. Racing (arcade) - That's a tough one. Need For Speed comes to mind. Sports - Madden series, hands down. Fighting - Mortal Kombat, but Street Fighter could be up there, too. RPG - Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest. Strategy - None really stand out right now. Action adventure - Zelda. Enough said. Platformer - Mario, FTW. You missed this one. Simulation - Depends. SimCity, The Sims, and Flight Simulator can take this one. But that's just me.
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Forgot puzzle game. That one goes to Tetris.
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#25 ExactlyEv
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Here are the corrections u need to make for some of these Genres.

FPS-  Half Life/CS? Quake? Unreal? did u forget about these?

Racing/SIM - Need for Speed?

Fighting-  Street Fighter & King of Fighters, these games are kickass

Street fight/Beat em up-  God of War?

RPG- CronoTrigger and Final Fanstasy both have their ups and downs, so they should be put together

RTS- StarCraft + Broodwars

Action/adventure - DMC?

Fantasy/action /adventure-  LoZ:LttP lol, this is the best zelda game ever, it's the integral block that helped make OoT and TP so good.

Horror-  RE4 was fun and all, but it wasn't scarey enough, not like the previous REs.

movie based - This spot has to go to GOLDEN EYE

Family- the sims, ya i kinda agree, but Wii sports is catching up, lol. Even my grandmother plays it.

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Yep I said it , one game , to define a whole genre, Some say say its impossible,I think for some genres it can't be done, But I tried my best so TAKE A LOOK, IF you agree ,disagree, if Im missing a genre, or if you think Im all wrong. PLEASE LET ME KNOW, OR MAKE YOUR OWN LIST

Genres..............

Free Roam(new genre)- GTA, (hands down) (all)

FPS- Halo (you can kinda guess) (all)

Racing/SIM - Grand turismo (all) / moto GP (for bikes) (all)

Racing /arcade- Burnout (2 to revenge)

Sports- (EA sports company ), its impossible to say one sports game to define all , so I say the whole company, they make NHL,NBA live,Tiger woods, Maddenopoly (madden) ,rugby,FILA,MLB ETC..

Fighting- Mortal combat

Wresling- Smackdown (all)

Street fight/Beat em up- Def JAM (2 only)

RPG- dare i say it........ Final Fantasy........NoT crono trigger???......OMG!!! ..( you probably guessed)

RTS- Command and conquer (all)

Army/War- Battle Field (any)

Action/adventure - It would have been another GTA, but Gears Of War has recently " took the cake"

Fantasy/action /adventure- Well Zelda would have taken this spot, but I'll have to give it to FABLE...YEAH I SAID IT,( well, typed it ).... FABLE...sorry zelda fans, but keep in mind ...I never played TP,... so .....

Stealth/action- MGS (all)

Horror- RE4 (only)

music/dance- Dance Dance Revolution(all)......DUHHHH .....you thought i was gonna say parappa the rapper?

movie based - The warriors

Family- the sims (all)..besides hot date ..not family but good

I may have added some, but I hate to leave any Genres out, so if I did, let me know, and one game you think should "define " it

ChocolatePimp
Hmmm, I'd change a few of those if I were you but hey, to each his own. FPS - Halo didn't revolutionize jack and doesn't define the genre. Doom or Half-Life would be much better choices. Fighting - I'd say Street Fighter 2 or the original VF are better picks. Street Fighting/Beatem'up - Def Jam? You have got to be joking. How about Double Dragon, Streets of Rage, Powerstone, or Teen Age Mutant Ninja Turtles - Turtles in Time. RPG - Man, I'm going to have to go with the original Dragon Warrior on NES. It started it all. Action/Adventure - Gears of War doesn't even really fit under this genre and if it did it wouldn't define the whole genre. This one is pretty hard. DMC, Ninja Gaiden...lots to choose from. Fantasy/Action - Zelda : OOT all the way. Fable isn't even close. I'd put Dark Cloud 2 in before Fable. Movie Based - Riddick takes the cake here.
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#27 amtentori
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[QUOTE="Zuluking187"]I disagree with almost all of them.web966



zelda oot really defines the 3d adventure game, mario defines the 2d platformer and the 3d platformer as well, survival horror would have to go to re1 i guess, fps to doom or one of its predecessors... most games in the list are too recent to have defined genres that were already well defined...

and geow an action adventure?

this thread fails
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Fighting - Street Fighter 3: Third Strike Sports - Madden NFL 2004 RPG - Vagrant Story RTS - Starcraft FPS - The load I left in the toilet Racers - Gran Turismo
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I disagree with pretty much everything on this list. As well, you seem to have invented some genres out of pure air, and forgotten some other important ones.

In fact some of your choices lead me to believe you don't actually understand the differences between some genres. I don't intend to be mean however, I'll just say what I think.



Genres..............

Free Roam(new genre)- GTA, (hands down) (all) ChocolatePimp

No, Elder Scrolls or Fallout which existed way before GTA, GTA popularised the genre, did not define or revolutionise it.

FPS- Halo (you can kinda guess) (all)ChocolatePimp

Heck no, Halo is nowhere near to the genre definer. Half Life, Quake, Doom, Unreal are all much bigger players in the history of the genre than Halo, which by comparison added very little.

[QUOTE="ChocolatePimp"]Racing/SIM - Grand turismo (all) / moto GP (for bikes) (all)

Racing /arcade- Burnout (2 to revenge)

Sports- (EA sports company ), its impossible to say one sports game to define all , so I say the whole company, they make NHL,NBA live,Tiger woods, Maddenopoly (madden) ,rugby,FILA,MLB ETC..

There's really very little innovation in any of these genres, so I guess you can say whatever is popular defines them.


RPG- dare i say it........ Final Fantasy........NoT crono trigger???......OMG!!! ..( you probably guessed)ChocolatePimp


WRPGs? Sure, Final Fantasy has the market on JRPGs, but no Baldur's Gate, NeverWinter Nights? Planetscape?

RTS- Command and conquer (all)ChocolatePimp

Starcraft? Total Annihilation? Age of Empires 2? All these did as much, if not more than C&C.

Army/War- Battle Field (any)ChocolatePimp

Is this even a genre?

Action/adventure - It would have been another GTA, but Gears Of War has recently " took the cake"

Fantasy/action /adventure- Well Zelda would have taken this spot, but I'll have to give it to FABLE...YEAH I SAID IT,( well, typed it ).... FABLE...sorry zelda fans, but keep in mind ...I never played TP,... so ....

ChocolatePimp

Do you understand what the action adventure genre is? I'll give you a hint, Gears isn't part of it. Gears is a shooter. This one easily goes to Zelda, for bringing us 3d, Z-targetting, free roaming, so damn much.

As for your fantasy adventure, Fable only brought us broken promises and a short/linear story. It cannot stand up to Zelda in the genre, compared to what it has provided and it's name.

Stealth/action- MGS (all)ChocolatePimp


Theif 1 brought in so much more than Metal Gear back in the early days.

movie based - The warriorsChocolatePimp

Movie based games inevitably sucked. In fact, I'm going to give my vote to the only licensed game that I can think of that's been good; Chronicles of Riddick.

Family- the sims (all)..besides hot date ..not family but goodChocolatePimp

Not a genre.

I may have added some, but I hate to leave any Genres out, so if I did, let me know, and one game you think should "define " it ....if you disagree, correct it , just don't tell me you disagree, Im here ,to hear opinions, not to be yell at for My opinions of which game is better at defining.... if you disagre, show me what you think should be there instead of acting all "pissy".

ChocolatePimp


Genres you missed:

Platformer = Mario, Sonic

Simulation = The Sims

MMORPGs = World Of Warcraft, Everquest

Adventure games = Monkey Island, Grim Fandango

Puzzle = Tetris
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Ok, i was able to see a little logic on most of your choices,... but Fableover Zelda?  I can't see that at all... maybe you should give some reasoning?
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[QUOTE="Quack_Attack"][QUOTE="DireToad"]FPS should really go to Half-Life.DireToad
Nah. HL is the _best_, but Doom defined the genre as we know it.



Well if you want to go by that, Wolfenstein should win.

Wolfenstein was the first one, but even though it was great, when it came to designing game mechanics, levels, and realism, it left a lot of potential, which Doom almost fully realized. Still Wolfenstein 3D should probably go there since it was the first one.

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>Doom games really havent been good ever. The best was 1 and very overated- it wasnt really fun even at the time
Conker-Fan

Just wondering, but how? I suspect that most people that don't like the single-task gameplay probably aren't fond of shooters in the first place.

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FPS: Goldeneye/Half Life RPG: Chrono Trigger
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The RPG category should've been split between JRPG and WRPG....I like TES as much as I like Final Fantasy.
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[QUOTE="Conker-Fan"]>Doom games really havent been good ever. The best was 1 and very overated- it wasnt really fun even at the time
Game_Addict247

Just wondering, but how? I suspect that most people that don't like the single-task gameplay probably aren't fond of shooters in the first place.



Doom is fun for a little while but it shouldn't define a genre.
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wait...how is Gears an Action-Adventure?Hewkii

That's like calling Assassin's Creed an RTS.

Actually AC will redefine the action Platformer and Stealth genre.

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[QUOTE="Game_Addict247"]

[QUOTE="Conker-Fan"]>Doom games really havent been good ever. The best was 1 and very overated- it wasnt really fun even at the time
Tiefster

Just wondering, but how? I suspect that most people that don't like the single-task gameplay probably aren't fond of shooters in the first place.



Doom is fun for a little while but it shouldn't define a genre.

What should, then? Wolf3D? Quake?
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Did you start playing games in 2000 or something?
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[QUOTE="Game_Addict247"]

[QUOTE="Conker-Fan"]>Doom games really havent been good ever. The best was 1 and very overated- it wasnt really fun even at the time
Tiefster

Just wondering, but how? I suspect that most people that don't like the single-task gameplay probably aren't fond of shooters in the first place.



Doom is fun for a little while but it shouldn't define a genre.

Wolfenstein 3D started the genre, but Doom realized all the potential the genre had in the first place.

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As for FPS, yes, Doom is what really started it up, but as far as it REALLY getting huge exposure, Half Life and Goldeneye.  No contest!
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Halo = No  .... its fun but, just NO

and Zelda >>> Fable (I don't really like them but I know whats better, and they are not even the same anyway)

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I dont even know where to begin on that list, I really dont agree with any of it and im too lazy to try and rewrite the whole thing.
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Yep I said it , one game , to define a whole  genre, Some say say its impossible,I think for some genres it can't be done, But I tried my best so TAKE A LOOK, IF you agree ,disagree, if Im missing a genre, or if you think Im all wrong. PLEASE LET ME KNOW, OR MAKE YOUR OWN LIST

Genres..............

Free Roam(new genre)- GTA, (hands down) (all)

FPS- Halo (you can kinda guess) (all)

Racing/SIM - Grand turismo (all) / moto GP (for bikes) (all)

Racing /arcade- Burnout (2 to revenge)

Sports- (EA sports company ), its impossible to say one sports game to define all , so I say the whole company, they make NHL,NBA live,Tiger woods, Maddenopoly (madden) ,rugby,FILA,MLB  ETC..

Fighting- Mortal combat

Wresling- Smackdown (all)

Street fight/Beat em up- Def JAM (2 only)

RPG- dare i say it........  Final Fantasy........NoT crono trigger???......OMG!!! ..( you probably guessed)

RTS- Command and conquer (all)

Army/War- Battle Field  (any)

Action/adventure - It would have been another GTA, but Gears Of War has recently " took the cake"

Fantasy/action /adventure- Well Zelda would have taken this spot, but I'll have to give it to FABLE...YEAH I SAID IT,( well, typed it ).... FABLE...sorry zelda fans, but keep in mind ...I never played TP,... so .....

Stealth/action-  MGS (all)

Horror- RE4 (only)

music/dance- Dance Dance Revolution(all)......DUHHHH .....you thought i was gonna say parappa the rapper?

movie based - The warriors

Family- the sims (all)..besides hot date ..not family but good

I may have added some, but I hate to leave any Genres out, so if I did, let me know, and one game you think should "define " it ....if you disagree, correct it , just don't tell me you disagree, Im here ,to hear opinions, not to be yell at for My opinions of which game is better at defining.... if you disagre, show me what you think should be there instead of acting all "pissy".

ChocolatePimp
Free Roam(new genre) - Morrowind [LOL GTA!!!!!] FPS - Unreal Tournament Racing/SIM - Racing /Arcade- Burnout Sports- SSX Series Fighting - Street Fighter Wrestling - N/A Street Fght/Beat em up - Super Smash Brothers Melee RPG - Earthbound, Tales of Series RTS- Starcraft [Red Alert is another good one] Army/War- Socom Action/Adventure - Zelda Fantasy/Action /Adventure- Zelda Stealth/action - Metal Gear Solid Horror- Resident Evil, Eternal Darkness, Silent Hill Music/Dance -Guitar Hero Movie Based - Star Wars Games [Spider Man games weren't too bad] Family -[Family oriented or life like game?] Family oriented - Wii Sports \\\---\\\ Life Game - Animal Crossing
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#44 ken_gamer
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Horror > RE4??? :lol:zorz
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#45 Imallvol7
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you picked DDR over Guitar Hero you fail at life
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#46 sagax03
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Yes i think it can be done mario did it so did zelda......one day or another another game will to.

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#47 TechGuru89
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FPS-Halo? :lol: Good luck with that.
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#48 AAllxxjjnn
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You should be kicked off the internet for thinking Halo reinvented the FPS genre.
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#49 sagax03
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did anyone notice this is 2 years old XD.

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#50 SMR-Venom
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did anyone notice this is 2 years old XD.

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