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the really scary thing about all of this is that
casuals and sheep will actually buy this game
just wait and see..........thats is scary :cry:
molinex
yes, I agree. More garbage for the Sheep, and they still dont get it.
1.2 on IGN, GS is porbably going to give it a negative score...lol:lol:
[QUOTE="molinex"]the really scary thing about all of this is that
casuals and sheep will actually buy this game
just wait and see..........thats is scary :cry:
Art_424
yes, I agree. More garbage for the Sheep, and they still dont get it.
1.2 on IGN, GS is porbably going to give it a negative score...lol:lol:
Still don't get what? Enlighten me on why this game has any effect on my experience with a Wii.
[QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="molinex"]the really scary thing about all of this is that
casuals and sheep will actually buy this game
just wait and see..........thats is scary :cry:
mdisen2
yes, I agree. More garbage for the Sheep, and they still dont get it.
1.2 on IGN, GS is porbably going to give it a negative score...lol:lol:
Still don't get what? Enlighten me on why this game has any effect on my experience with a Wii.
well isn't it obivous? you can expect more quality games just like this one tahts how it effects your experience.
[QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="molinex"]the really scary thing about all of this is that
casuals and sheep will actually buy this game
just wait and see..........thats is scary :cry:
mdisen2
yes, I agree. More garbage for the Sheep, and they still dont get it.
1.2 on IGN, GS is porbably going to give it a negative score...lol:lol:
Still don't get what? Enlighten me on why this game has any effect on my experience with a Wii.
Did you happen to read the quotes since the beginning, it says that some sheep will still buy this game, regardless of its "great" score...lol, are you one of them?
And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.magdalene1
[QUOTE="mdisen2"][QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="molinex"]the really scary thing about all of this is that
casuals and sheep will actually buy this game
just wait and see..........thats is scary :cry:
Art_424
yes, I agree. More garbage for the Sheep, and they still dont get it.
1.2 on IGN, GS is porbably going to give it a negative score...lol:lol:
Still don't get what? Enlighten me on why this game has any effect on my experience with a Wii.
Did you happen to read the quotes since the beginning, it says that some sheep will still buy this game, regardless of its "great" score...lol, are you one of them?
lol ya I am!!! :roll:
The only people that will buy this game are parents and little kids too ignorant or lazy to research its quality.
[QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.Zerostatic0
:o don't tell the cows that they're under the delusion that ps2 has more quality titles then crappy ones.
Its the Atari 2600 all over again !
:lol:
[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.youngtongue
:o don't tell the cows that they're under the delusion that ps2 has more quality titles then crappy ones.
Actually I'm a lemming this gen, and I'm not saying that the PS2 doesn't have its fair share of crappy titles. I was able to avoid most of those fortunately. However, when you look at the thousands of games released for the PS2, 327 doesn't seem like such a ridiculous proportion. If the Wii continues its current pace, which I'll admit is not likely to happen, then it will have a whopping total of 16 titles with an average rating of 85 or above 4 years after its release. Let's just hope this isn't the case.
[QUOTE="youngtongue"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.magdalene1
:o don't tell the cows that they're under the delusion that ps2 has more quality titles then crappy ones.
Actually I'm a lemming this gen, and I'm not saying that the PS2 doesn't have its fair share of crappy titles. I was able to avoid most of those fortunately. However, when you look at the thousands of games released for the PS2, 327 doesn't seem like such a ridiculous proportion. If the Wii continues its current pace, which I'll admit is not likely to happen, then it will have a whopping total of 16 titles with an average rating of 85 or above 4 years after its release. Let's just hope this isn't the case.
:D actually i wasn't specifically calling you a cow. humm but you do make a point. touche. don't make me look foolish again or else.:twisted:
[QUOTE="magdalene1"][QUOTE="youngtongue"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.youngtongue
:o don't tell the cows that they're under the delusion that ps2 has more quality titles then crappy ones.
Actually I'm a lemming this gen, and I'm not saying that the PS2 doesn't have its fair share of crappy titles. I was able to avoid most of those fortunately. However, when you look at the thousands of games released for the PS2, 327 doesn't seem like such a ridiculous proportion. If the Wii continues its current pace, which I'll admit is not likely to happen, then it will have a whopping total of 16 titles with an average rating of 85 or above 4 years after its release. Let's just hope this isn't the case.
:D actually i wasn't specifically calling you a cow. humm but you do make a point. touche. don't make me look foolish again or else.:twisted:
I'm really not trying to diss the Wii. It seems like people had so many cool gameplay ideas about what you could do with the Wii-mote before the Wii came out and I keep wondering where are those games. The Wii already has 3 games that have an average AAA rating this gen, which is pretty impressive considering how much people expect of video games these days. But these games don't have a whole lot of backup right now.
lol thats funny.
But seriously wii haters why are you trying to claim ownage over this? :? "Teh wii is doomed because of this game!"
[QUOTE="youngtongue"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.magdalene1
:o don't tell the cows that they're under the delusion that ps2 has more quality titles then crappy ones.
Actually I'm a lemming this gen, and I'm not saying that the PS2 doesn't have its fair share of crappy titles. I was able to avoid most of those fortunately. However, when you look at the thousands of games released for the PS2, 327 doesn't seem like such a ridiculous proportion. If the Wii continues its current pace, which I'll admit is not likely to happen, then it will have a whopping total of 16 titles with an average rating of 85 or above 4 years after its release. Let's just hope this isn't the case.
In 2000, there were over 40 PS2 titles released, only 4 of them had averages of over 85%. In 2001, there were 21 PS2 games with averages of over 85%. In 2002 there were 22, and finally in 2003 which was the PS2's best year and also it's 4th year on the market it had 31 games with averags of over 85%. After 2003 there was a steady decline. I expect the Wii will follow a similar pattern because it's basically the same pattern that every successfull system follows. I don't know why this is such a hard concept to grasp, no system has a great library in it's first year, and whoever is pegged as the future market leader always gets a bunch of junk as companies try and squeeze a quick buck out before the competition arrives. I'll say this, I don't think the Wii will have as many AA+ titles as the PS2 because many of the successful Wii titles will be casual oriented games like Wiifit or WiiSports that the hardcore gaming media will not score highly. However, it will have a ton of AA+ games, definitely more then the Gamecube and as hard as it is to believe, it'll probably surpass the 360 and the PS3 as far as the number of AA+ games on the market.
[QUOTE="magdalene1"][QUOTE="youngtongue"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.Zerostatic0
:o don't tell the cows that they're under the delusion that ps2 has more quality titles then crappy ones.
Actually I'm a lemming this gen, and I'm not saying that the PS2 doesn't have its fair share of crappy titles. I was able to avoid most of those fortunately. However, when you look at the thousands of games released for the PS2, 327 doesn't seem like such a ridiculous proportion. If the Wii continues its current pace, which I'll admit is not likely to happen, then it will have a whopping total of 16 titles with an average rating of 85 or above 4 years after its release. Let's just hope this isn't the case.
In 2000, there were over 40 PS2 titles released, only 4 of them had averages of over 85%. In 2001, there were 21 PS2 games with averages of over 85%. In 2002 there were 22, and finally in 2003 which was the PS2's best year and also it's 4th year on the market it had 31 games with averags of over 85%. After 2003 there was a steady decline. I expect the Wii will follow a similar pattern because it's basically the same pattern that every successfull system follows. I don't know why this is such a hard concept to grasp, no system has a great library in it's first year, and whoever is pegged as the future market leader always gets a bunch of junk as companies try and squeeze a quick buck out before the competition arrives. I'll say this, I don't think the Wii will have as many AA+ titles as the PS2 because many of the successful Wii titles will be casual oriented games like Wiifit or WiiSports that the hardcore gaming media will not score highly. However, it will have a ton of AA+ games, definitely more then the Gamecube and as hard as it is to believe, it'll probably surpass the 360 and the PS3 as far as the number of AA+ games on the market. SO, getting crappy games like this is a good thing!! Hurray I'm happy now[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"][QUOTE="youngtongue"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.GunSmith1_basic
:o don't tell the cows that they're under the delusion that ps2 has more quality titles then crappy ones.
Actually I'm a lemming this gen, and I'm not saying that the PS2 doesn't have its fair share of crappy titles. I was able to avoid most of those fortunately. However, when you look at the thousands of games released for the PS2, 327 doesn't seem like such a ridiculous proportion. If the Wii continues its current pace, which I'll admit is not likely to happen, then it will have a whopping total of 16 titles with an average rating of 85 or above 4 years after its release. Let's just hope this isn't the case.
In 2000, there were over 40 PS2 titles released, only 4 of them had averages of over 85%. In 2001, there were 21 PS2 games with averages of over 85%. In 2002 there were 22, and finally in 2003 which was the PS2's best year and also it's 4th year on the market it had 31 games with averags of over 85%. After 2003 there was a steady decline. I expect the Wii will follow a similar pattern because it's basically the same pattern that every successfull system follows. I don't know why this is such a hard concept to grasp, no system has a great library in it's first year, and whoever is pegged as the future market leader always gets a bunch of junk as companies try and squeeze a quick buck out before the competition arrives. I'll say this, I don't think the Wii will have as many AA+ titles as the PS2 because many of the successful Wii titles will be casual oriented games like Wiifit or WiiSports that the hardcore gaming media will not score highly. However, it will have a ton of AA+ games, definitely more then the Gamecube and as hard as it is to believe, it'll probably surpass the 360 and the PS3 as far as the number of AA+ games on the market. SO, getting crappy games like this is a good thing!! Hurray I'm happy nowDoes someone force you to buy the crappy games? Did you buy all 327 PS2 games that scored 59.9 or below?[QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.Zerostatic0
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.-D3MO-
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
how many games have averages on gamerankings?
[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.-D3MO-
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
Wow, that is a weak arguement, I can take it apart in a number of ways. Lets see . . . . First, there are nowhere near 5,000 PS2 games on gamerankings.com. So you can't simply do 327 /5000 to get the correct percentage because you do not know how many of those 5,000 games would have been rated 59.9% or less . . . . Secondly, any major game would appear on gamerankings.com, so what kind of games do you think are those games that are not accounted for? What games would not get reviewed by major sites and thus appear on gamerankings? WALMART SHOVELWARE FTW!!! If you could get all those throw-away titles reviewed, the percentage would be a lot higher then 6.5%Right now, about 20% of Wii games have a ranking of less then 59.9, and I'll be honest that percentage will go down but will probably always be higher then it's competitors and honestly it'll probably end up being higher then the PS2s because the being a main-stream casual system (like the PS1 and PS2) always attracts shovelware and the Wii is way more main-stream and way more casual then the PS2 was at the same stages of their life-span. However, most people say the PS2 had the best library last gen. Why? Not because it's percentage of crap titles was low (I'd bet the GC and Xbox had lower percentages of crap titles), but because it had a lot of good exclusive games, and I belive the same will hold true for the Wii. So whatever the percentage of crap titles is, it doesn't really matter to us. What matters to us is if it has a lot of quality games. The question is will that happen? The PS2 only 4 titles above 85% in 2000. The Wii has been on the market for less then a year and it also has 4 titles with review averages of 85% or above (with a couple of other ones right around the corner). The Wii definitely started out with less support then the much hyped PS2 so it might take a bit longer to start the upswing, but I think the Wii continue the same trend that the PS2 followed and next year will probably have 20 or so titles with averages of 85% or higher. We'll have to wait and see I guess . . .
[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.laughingman42
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
how many games have averages on gamerankings?
1492 which is why his arguement is so weak. And BTW 327/1492 = 21.9% which is basically the same ratio the Wii currently has for games that scored 59.9% or less.[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.Zerostatic0
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
Wow, that is a weak arguement, I can take it apart in a number of ways. Lets see . . . . First, there are nowhere near 5,000 PS2 games on gamerankings.com. So you can't simply do 327 /5000 to get the correct percentage because you do not know how many of those 5,000 games would have been rated 59.9% or less . . . . Secondly, any major game would appear on gamerankings.com, so what kind of games do you think are those games that are not accounted for? What games would not get reviewed by major sites and thus appear on gamerankings? WALMART SHOVELWARE FTW!!! If you could get all those throw-away titles reviewed, the percentage would be a lot higher then 6.5%Right now, about 20% of Wii games have a ranking of less then 59.9, and I'll be honest that percentage will go down but will probably always be higher then it's competitors and honestly it'll probably end up being higher then the PS2s because the being a main-stream casual system (like the PS1 and PS2) always attracts shovelware and the Wii is way more main-stream and way more casual then the PS2 was at the same stages of their life-span. However, most people say the PS2 had the best library last gen. Why? Not because it's percentage of crap titles was low (I'd bet the GC and Xbox had lower percentages of crap titles), but because it had a lot of good exclusive games, and I belive the same will hold true for the Wii. So whatever the percentage of crap titles is, it doesn't really matter to us. What matters to us is if it has a lot of quality games. The question is will that happen? The PS2 only 4 titles above 85% in 2000. The Wii has been on the market for less then a year and it also has 4 titles with review averages of 85% or above (with a couple of other ones right around the corner). The Wii definitely started out with less support then the much hyped PS2 so it might take a bit longer to start the upswing, but I think the Wii continue the same trend that the PS2 followed and next year will probably have 20 or so titles with averages of 85% or higher. We'll have to wait and see I guess . . .
So then why are Wii's showelware games being reviewed?
The Wii will have the most showelware EVER....I mean out of the 86 games coming out...maybe 10 will be GOOD....that's a sad reality...
[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.-D3MO-
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
Wow, that is a weak arguement, I can take it apart in a number of ways. Lets see . . . . First, there are nowhere near 5,000 PS2 games on gamerankings.com. So you can't simply do 327 /5000 to get the correct percentage because you do not know how many of those 5,000 games would have been rated 59.9% or less . . . . Secondly, any major game would appear on gamerankings.com, so what kind of games do you think are those games that are not accounted for? What games would not get reviewed by major sites and thus appear on gamerankings? WALMART SHOVELWARE FTW!!! If you could get all those throw-away titles reviewed, the percentage would be a lot higher then 6.5%Right now, about 20% of Wii games have a ranking of less then 59.9, and I'll be honest that percentage will go down but will probably always be higher then it's competitors and honestly it'll probably end up being higher then the PS2s because the being a main-stream casual system (like the PS1 and PS2) always attracts shovelware and the Wii is way more main-stream and way more casual then the PS2 was at the same stages of their life-span. However, most people say the PS2 had the best library last gen. Why? Not because it's percentage of crap titles was low (I'd bet the GC and Xbox had lower percentages of crap titles), but because it had a lot of good exclusive games, and I belive the same will hold true for the Wii. So whatever the percentage of crap titles is, it doesn't really matter to us. What matters to us is if it has a lot of quality games. The question is will that happen? The PS2 only 4 titles above 85% in 2000. The Wii has been on the market for less then a year and it also has 4 titles with review averages of 85% or above (with a couple of other ones right around the corner). The Wii definitely started out with less support then the much hyped PS2 so it might take a bit longer to start the upswing, but I think the Wii continue the same trend that the PS2 followed and next year will probably have 20 or so titles with averages of 85% or higher. We'll have to wait and see I guess . . .
So then why are Wii's showelware games being reviewed?
The Wii will have the most showelware EVER....I mean out of the 86 games coming out...maybe 10 will be GOOD....that's a sad reality...
huh? First of all, I guarantee you that not all 86 games coming out this holiday season for the Wii will get reviewed, and it'll be some of the shovelware that doesn't get reviewed, as they often-times do not send copies to review outlets and since it's the holiday season with tons of games being released, review outlets are usually too busy to track done some crappy game to review unlike the rest of the year where they have enough time for stuff like that.Regardless, the bottomline is that roughly the same percentage of PS2 games scored below a 59.9% as Wii games so I think all this stuff being made about the abundance of shovelware on the Wii is being overblown.
[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.Zerostatic0
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
Wow, that is a weak arguement, I can take it apart in a number of ways. Lets see . . . . First, there are nowhere near 5,000 PS2 games on gamerankings.com. So you can't simply do 327 /5000 to get the correct percentage because you do not know how many of those 5,000 games would have been rated 59.9% or less . . . . Secondly, any major game would appear on gamerankings.com, so what kind of games do you think are those games that are not accounted for? What games would not get reviewed by major sites and thus appear on gamerankings? WALMART SHOVELWARE FTW!!! If you could get all those throw-away titles reviewed, the percentage would be a lot higher then 6.5%Right now, about 20% of Wii games have a ranking of less then 59.9, and I'll be honest that percentage will go down but will probably always be higher then it's competitors and honestly it'll probably end up being higher then the PS2s because the being a main-stream casual system (like the PS1 and PS2) always attracts shovelware and the Wii is way more main-stream and way more casual then the PS2 was at the same stages of their life-span. However, most people say the PS2 had the best library last gen. Why? Not because it's percentage of crap titles was low (I'd bet the GC and Xbox had lower percentages of crap titles), but because it had a lot of good exclusive games, and I belive the same will hold true for the Wii. So whatever the percentage of crap titles is, it doesn't really matter to us. What matters to us is if it has a lot of quality games. The question is will that happen? The PS2 only 4 titles above 85% in 2000. The Wii has been on the market for less then a year and it also has 4 titles with review averages of 85% or above (with a couple of other ones right around the corner). The Wii definitely started out with less support then the much hyped PS2 so it might take a bit longer to start the upswing, but I think the Wii continue the same trend that the PS2 followed and next year will probably have 20 or so titles with averages of 85% or higher. We'll have to wait and see I guess . . .
So then why are Wii's showelware games being reviewed?
The Wii will have the most showelware EVER....I mean out of the 86 games coming out...maybe 10 will be GOOD....that's a sad reality...
huh? First of all, I guarantee you that not all 86 games coming out this holiday season for the Wii will get reviewed, and it'll be some of the shovelware that doesn't get reviewed, as they often-times do not send copies to review outlets and since it's the holiday season with tons of games being released, review outlets are usually too busy to track done some crappy game to review unlike the rest of the year where they have enough time for stuff like that.Regardless, the bottomline is that roughly the same percentage of PS2 games scored below a 59.9% as Wii games so I think all this stuff being made about the abundance of shovelware on the Wii is being overblown.
I doubt that the PS2=Wii in Shovelware... PS2 Had crap...a lot of crap...but the constant AA and AAA games never made me have to look for a game to purhcase...I could walk into a store and spend hours deciding on which game to buy...w/ the Wii its like u walk into a store...and see 10 games on the shelf worth playing...on a whole 20ft long wall...filled w/ games...that's a red flag imo...
Now maybe the PS2 shovelware wasn't advertised as much...or maybe the PS2 had too many good games...but w/ the Wii u actually have to look for a decent game...
[QUOTE="Strider212"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]thats... god, why do games like this get released... why.. wtf nintendo/LivingReceiver
Because there are idiotic people out there that will buy it. Don't blame Nintendo, blame the idiots the create a demand for this trash.
Ummm, does that mean you. I mean you own a Wii don't you? So I suppose you support it.... And I know the Wii is.... well you summed it up pretty well when you called it trash. Hey, atleast your a realistic Wii owner. That's good.... right?
Why does anyone care?
Its not as if anyone is forcing you to go buy such trash for the Wii.
[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="Zerostatic0"][QUOTE="magdalene1"]And there are 327 PS2 games that have an average of 59.9 or less on gamerankings.Defending Wii crap by saying that lots of crap also came out on the PS2 just doesn't work for me. You see, in addition to all the crap, the PS2 also had tons of great titles. If you go on gamerankings.com, you will see 47 PS2 titles that have an average rating of 90 or above. 134 PS2 titles have an average rating of 85 or above.-D3MO-
PS2 had almost 5,000 games....327/5,000 = 6.5%....how many Wii games scored less than 59.9%???
Wow, that is a weak arguement, I can take it apart in a number of ways. Lets see . . . . First, there are nowhere near 5,000 PS2 games on gamerankings.com. So you can't simply do 327 /5000 to get the correct percentage because you do not know how many of those 5,000 games would have been rated 59.9% or less . . . . Secondly, any major game would appear on gamerankings.com, so what kind of games do you think are those games that are not accounted for? What games would not get reviewed by major sites and thus appear on gamerankings? WALMART SHOVELWARE FTW!!! If you could get all those throw-away titles reviewed, the percentage would be a lot higher then 6.5%Right now, about 20% of Wii games have a ranking of less then 59.9, and I'll be honest that percentage will go down but will probably always be higher then it's competitors and honestly it'll probably end up being higher then the PS2s because the being a main-stream casual system (like the PS1 and PS2) always attracts shovelware and the Wii is way more main-stream and way more casual then the PS2 was at the same stages of their life-span. However, most people say the PS2 had the best library last gen. Why? Not because it's percentage of crap titles was low (I'd bet the GC and Xbox had lower percentages of crap titles), but because it had a lot of good exclusive games, and I belive the same will hold true for the Wii. So whatever the percentage of crap titles is, it doesn't really matter to us. What matters to us is if it has a lot of quality games. The question is will that happen? The PS2 only 4 titles above 85% in 2000. The Wii has been on the market for less then a year and it also has 4 titles with review averages of 85% or above (with a couple of other ones right around the corner). The Wii definitely started out with less support then the much hyped PS2 so it might take a bit longer to start the upswing, but I think the Wii continue the same trend that the PS2 followed and next year will probably have 20 or so titles with averages of 85% or higher. We'll have to wait and see I guess . . .
So then why are Wii's showelware games being reviewed?
The Wii will have the most showelware EVER....I mean out of the 86 games coming out...maybe 10 will be GOOD....that's a sad reality...
huh? First of all, I guarantee you that not all 86 games coming out this holiday season for the Wii will get reviewed, and it'll be some of the shovelware that doesn't get reviewed, as they often-times do not send copies to review outlets and since it's the holiday season with tons of games being released, review outlets are usually too busy to track done some crappy game to review unlike the rest of the year where they have enough time for stuff like that.Regardless, the bottomline is that roughly the same percentage of PS2 games scored below a 59.9% as Wii games so I think all this stuff being made about the abundance of shovelware on the Wii is being overblown.
I doubt that the PS2=Wii in Shovelware... PS2 Had crap...a lot of crap...but the constant AA and AAA games never made me have to look for a game to purhcase...I could walk into a store and spend hours deciding on which game to buy...w/ the Wii its like u walk into a store...and see 10 games on the shelf worth playing...on a whole 20ft long wall...filled w/ games...that's a red flag imo...
Now maybe the PS2 shovelware wasn't advertised as much...or maybe the PS2 had too many good games...but w/ the Wii u actually have to look for a decent game...
You must have a case of selective amnesia. The PS2 was blasted hard in it's first months on the markets for too many crappy games and nothing really worth buying especially when compared to the Dreamcast. In fact the Wii hasn't even been out for a year and in that timespan it has 3 AAA games (on gamerankings.com). In 2000, of it's 44 games released the PS2 only had 2 AAA games and they were pretty weak at that because they were Madden and SSX. Lets see Madden & SSX versus Zelda: Twilight Princess, Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition, and Metroid Prime 3? Wii wins that easily. And when you look at the shovelware, the percentages on gamerankings.com are basically the same (both systems had crap games in the 20+% range).Now am I saying that the Wii library will match the PS2 library from a hardcore gamers perspective? No, in fact I don't think it will match the PS2 when it's all said and done because it's even more casual and mainstream then the PS2, however it will have a ton of great games, definitely more then you saw last year and you will see during the holiday. The Wii is poised to be the market leader and with that comes a lot of support both good and bad, just like how the PS2 got a lot of support, both good and bad.
Gamers and the gaming media can't grasp this simple concept, but that's ok, they do the same thing nearly every single generation. Why people don't stop and study the past in the gaming industry is beyond me as many things do repeat themselves.
Thanks for the link! If there is one thing worthwhile from reading reviews for really bad games, it's for the comic relief and the hilarious comments.
When I get bored or am in a bad mood (and got nothing else to do), sometimes I browse through the worst scored games simply to read the cynical reviews. In this case : Gameplay (0.5) : Killed-your-dog bad. LOL.
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