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#1 Dibdibdobdobo
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I love the Tekken series but one thing which annoys me is that there is no Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu character in the game. What you get instead is Eddie Gordo who is a terrible character who is from Brazil. If anyone knows about Martial Arts you might say "Well kings a grappler / Wrestler" but he doesnt do triangles,Omaplatas, Gogoplatas, Kimura's,Gi Chokesbutinstead does big wrestling moves which arent affectivein real life. They could giventhis character loads of Judo throws as Judo is quite similar to BJJ. I'd even of liked to see a more of a MMA fighter in a specific character would of been intresting on how Namco would of created that character. Capcom messed up big time with that joke of a character in SF4 (I dont even remember his name, The French dude).

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#2 megapikachu101
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i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

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#3 DevilMightCry
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I'm not holding my breath for Tekken 6. The game is destined to become silly with all the gimmicky weapons like "water gun" "lasers" and "kangoroo babies punching"

WTF. I was hoping Tekken 6 to be more gritty, and dark. Instead we get a fighting game for 12 year olds (no offense)

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#4 falconclan
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So its not awesome for everyone because it doesn't include a fighting style that you apparently enjoy.. Well alrighty. I've never been a fan of tekken anyways, its sorta noobish.

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#5 Dibdibdobdobo
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So its not awesome for everyone because it doesn't include a fighting style that you apparently enjoy.. Well alrighty. I've never been a fan of tekken anyways, its sorta noobish.

falconclan

Enjoy?! I eat and breath the style as i do Mixed Martial Arts and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. If you enjoy any Mixed Martial Arts like Dream, Strike Force, UFC you know that majority of the top fighters in MMA have BJJ coaches as its the dominant style for ground grappling. There are quite alot of characters in Tekken but none that really cover ground fighting.

Sort of noobish?! Not at all.

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#6 BuryMe
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So 1 fighting style is make or break for you?

And Eddie and Christie are awesome characters

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#7 Dibdibdobdobo
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So 1 fighting style is make or break for you?

And Eddie and Christie are awesome characters

BuryMe

Variation is the spice of life. No not one style as MMA is Mixed Martial Arts but that means that character could be over-powered, Its just that Namco seem to try and keep one character to a specific style kinda. Tekken already has Aikido, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Muay Thai, Boxing, wrestling, Shoot Wrestling... Why not BJJ?!

Tekken is still a great game just could of been awesomewith1 additional character.

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or because its been out for ever a year in the arcade.....
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i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

megapikachu101

What are you talking about? There is no game called Tekken 4.

Tekken 1, Tekken 2, Tekken 3, Tekken 5 and soon to be Tekken 6.

I do not know what you speak of when you mention Tekken 4:cry:

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#10 LyfOfAManti
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Paul style is judo with some hurtful looking grabs. and the crazy choking grab stuff seems to be taken care of by Dragunov

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#11 Dibdibdobdobo
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Paul style is judo with some hurtful looking grabs. and the crazy choking grab stuff seems to be taken care of by Dragunov

LyfOfAManti

Paul doesnt touch a tip of the ice burg when it comes to Judo throws.

Heres some highlights of BJJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukvzw2R4150

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GO play UFC games if you want triagles and that kind of stuff....Tekken is great how it is.
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#13 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Good thing I don't bother with Tekken and stick to fighters like KOF and BlazBlue.
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#14 megapikachu101
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[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

The__Havoc

What are you talking about? There is no game called Tekken 4.

Tekken 1, Tekken 2, Tekken 3, Tekken 5 and soon to be Tekken 6.

I do not know what you speak of when you mention Tekken 4:cry:

:x

what do you mean tekken 4 dont exist?

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#15 Dibdibdobdobo
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GO play UFC games if you want triagles and that kind of stuff....Tekken is great how it is.Syferonik
I dont need to play UFC. I do MMA anyways, I just go Martial Arts club and learn the blood sport. Tekken is great but variation in styles makes a game more intresting which you cannot deny. I've played the UFC game but its nothing on Tekken.
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#16 110million
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Pretty much.

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[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

The__Havoc

What are you talking about? There is no game called Tekken 4.

Tekken 1, Tekken 2, Tekken 3, Tekken 5 and soon to be Tekken 6.

I do not know what you speak of when you mention Tekken 4:cry:

Oh you can't deny the fact there was a Tekken 4 even if it did suck compared to T3, T Tag and T5:DR

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It is a fictiional fighting game, most of the moves are video game only. Want realistic styles? Play some UFC.

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#19 110million
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I would also like to add Eddie Gordo is not a wrestler or grappler, Capoeira is what he uses..
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#20 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

megapikachu101

What are you talking about? There is no game called Tekken 4.

Tekken 1, Tekken 2, Tekken 3, Tekken 5 and soon to be Tekken 6.

I do not know what you speak of when you mention Tekken 4:cry:

:x

what do you mean tekken 4 dont exist?

Nice photoshop. I'm pretty sure tekken 4 doesn't exist.

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#21 metalguitar13
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I love the Tekken series but one thing which annoys me is that there is no Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu character in the game. What you get instead is Eddie Gordo who is a terrible character who is from Brazil. If anyone knows about Martial Arts you might say "Well kings a grappler / Wrestler" but he doesnt do triangles,Omaplatas, Gogoplatas, Kimura's,Gi Chokesbutinstead does big wrestling moves which arent affectivein real life. They could giventhis character loads of Judo throws as Judo is quite similar to BJJ. I'd even of liked to see a more of a MMA fighter in a specific character would of been intresting on how Namco would of created that character. Capcom messed up big time with that joke of a character in SF4 (I dont even remember his name, The French dude).

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#22 ultraking
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tekken 4 does exsist

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#23 agentfred
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I just don't know how well Jiu-Jitsu would fit into a fighting game. I've got to imagine it would be difficult to integrate the whole ground game into the mix.

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#24 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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tekken was never good, i don't see why the sixth one will be

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#25 clied
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Yea tekken sucks!

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#26 GTSaiyanjin2
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tekken 4 does exsist

ultraking

I've played the game, it was alright once you got used to the game. But yeah tekken 5 was miles better.

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#27 Revolution316
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i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

megapikachu101

tekken 4 wasnt exactly the best tekken game.

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#28 IlovemyAbs
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Kill Tekken. Milked over the top

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#29 SamGv
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http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tekken4/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Tekken 4

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[QUOTE="falconclan"]

So its not awesome for everyone because it doesn't include a fighting style that you apparently enjoy.. Well alrighty. I've never been a fan of tekken anyways, its sorta noobish.

Dibdibdobdobo

Enjoy?! I eat and breath the style as i do Mixed Martial Arts and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. If you enjoy any Mixed Martial Arts like Dream, Strike Force, UFC you know that majority of the top fighters in MMA have BJJ coaches as its the dominant style for ground grappling. There are quite alot of characters in Tekken but none that really cover ground fighting.

Sort of noobish?! Not at all.

Yeah i saw that in your sig :P

Your out of luck I guess then :(

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#31 Dibdibdobdobo
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It is a fictiional fighting game, most of the moves are video game only. Want realistic styles? Play some UFC.

Shhadow_Viper
If i want realism i just go to Gym instead rather than go play a game. If i want a Beat'em Up in play computer games. Its pretty simple that all i want is a indepth character who's main emphasis is ground fighting.
I would also like to add Eddie Gordo is not a wrestler or grappler, Capoeira is what he uses.. 110million
I didnt say Eddie done Wrestling at all. Learn to read! I just said " you get instead is Eddie Gordo who is a terrible character who is from Brazil" which is true. Eddie is little more than a button bashing character. 110milion. Your graph while funny is about as accurate as a Blind Man with a shot gun.
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#32 Stats_
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Tekken 6 would be better if it were Dead Or Alive. Sadly it isn't. Hell, it's not even Virtua Fighter.

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#33 Dibdibdobdobo
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Tekken 6 would be better if it were Dead Or Alive. Sadly it isn't. Hell, it's not even Virtua Fighter.

Stats_
lol. I do enjoy DOA but never was able to get into Virtua Fighter.
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#34 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"]

It is a fictiional fighting game, most of the moves are video game only. Want realistic styles? Play some UFC.

If i want realism i just go to Gym instead rather than go play a game. If i want a Beat'em Up in play computer games. Its pretty simple that all i want is a indepth character who's main emphasis is ground fighting.
I would also like to add Eddie Gordo is not a wrestler or grappler, Capoeira is what he uses.. 110million
I didnt say Eddie done Wrestling at all. Learn to read! I just said " you get instead is Eddie Gordo who is a terrible character who is from Brazil" which is true. Eddie is little more than a button bashing character. 110milion. Your graph while funny is about as accurate as a Blind Man with a shot gun.

You're getting a bit self righteous you know. Obviously you're one of the VERY few people who care about Jiu Jitsus inclusion, or lack thereof in the game. Just because you enjoy it, dosen't mean it would be a smart choice to add in a game. Lol, it's a way of life ...
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#35 Racer850
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Not a fan of the Tekken games. Might just rent this.
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#36 megapikachu101
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[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

Revolution316

tekken 4 wasnt exactly the best tekken game.

just wondering which one is the best?

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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"] If i want realism i just go to Gym instead rather than go play a game. If i want a Beat'em Up in play computer games. Its pretty simple that all i want is a indepth character who's main emphasis is ground fighting. [QUOTE="110million"]I would also like to add Eddie Gordo is not a wrestler or grappler, Capoeira is what he uses.. Stats_
I didnt say Eddie done Wrestling at all. Learn to read! I just said " you get instead is Eddie Gordo who is a terrible character who is from Brazil" which is true. Eddie is little more than a button bashing character. 110milion. Your graph while funny is about as accurate as a Blind Man with a shot gun.

You're getting a bit self righteous you know. Obviously you're one of the VERY few people who care about Jiu Jitsus inclusion, or lack thereof in the game. Just because you enjoy it, dosen't mean it would be a smart choice to add in a game. Lol, it's a way of life ...

How exactly am i getting self righteous?! Your just chatting bubbles (I'd put in the more accurate word but i'd get banned). Who said anything about Jiu-Jitsu?! I was on about BJJ which is a differant style altogether as BJJ is ground fighting while jiu-jitsu is eye gouging, Bitting and Chinese burns. Hmmm no one would care about the inclusion or lack of BJJ?! Sadly your wrong again as BJJ is the fastest growing martial arts style in the world, Several million viewers to UFC/Strike Force/ BAMMA must care about this style as its the foundation to many of the viewers favourites fighters style. If Namco was intelligent then the inclusion of BJJ would easiely add couple thousand to there sales as this is the most important thing to Namco.

Yes its a way of life as i train 7/8 x a week. What you doing with your life apart from chatting rubbish on the internet.... Hmmm. Obviously you should just be quiet on the subject as you dont know zilch. Ohhh im being self righteous now, You must be psychic.

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[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

megapikachu101

tekken 4 wasnt exactly the best tekken game.

just wondering which one is the best?

Tekken 3 is the classic... but tekken 5dr has the best gameplay..

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#39 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

[QUOTE="megapikachu101"]

i played tekken 4 before, it was LAME

tekken 4 wasnt exactly the best tekken game.

just wondering which one is the best?

Favourite one for myself was Tekken Tag.
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Rickson Gracie once said there is no such thing as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He was asked if he called his art Gracie Jiu-Jitsu or BJJ. He said "I'm Rickson Gracie, I practice jujutsu, and I'm from Brazil. You can think whatever you want. Heh, heh, heh. I'm not too much into names I'm more into doing it, the source it comes from, and my name. " He also also asked about creating his own style. Rickson said "No, that's not true. I don't have my personal [style] because jujutsu covers all the different aspects of real self-defense."
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#41 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] I didnt say Eddie done Wrestling at all. Learn to read! I just said " you get instead is Eddie Gordo who is a terrible character who is from Brazil" which is true. Eddie is little more than a button bashing character. 110milion. Your graph while funny is about as accurate as a Blind Man with a shot gun.Dibdibdobdobo

You're getting a bit self righteous you know. Obviously you're one of the VERY few people who care about Jiu Jitsus inclusion, or lack thereof in the game. Just because you enjoy it, dosen't mean it would be a smart choice to add in a game. Lol, it's a way of life ...

How exactly am i getting self righteous?! Your just chatting bubbles (I'd put in the more accurate word but i'd get banned). Who said anything about Jiu-Jitsu?! I was on about BJJ which is a differant style altogether as BJJ is ground fighting while jiu-jitsu is eye gouging, Bitting and Chinese burns. Hmmm no one would care about the inclusion or lack of BJJ?! Sadly your wrong again as BJJ is the fastest growing martial arts style in the world, Several million viewers to UFC/Strike Force/ BAMMA must care about this style as its the foundation to many of the viewers favourites fighters style. If Namco was intelligent then the inclusion of BJJ would easiely add couple thousand to there sales as this is the most important thing to Namco.

Yes its a way of life as i train 7/8 x a week. What you doing with your life apart from chatting rubbish on the internet.... Hmmm. Obviously you should just be quiet on the subject as you dont know zilch. Ohhh im being self righteous now, You must be psychic.

Yes, very self righteous. You seem to have taken that very personal too. I can honestly say, no one in this thread but you cares about the inclusion of whatever it is you want included. Especially not to the point where it will effect the games quality. "What you doing with your life apart from chatting rubbish on the internet" Ok, now ... i have what, 255 posts. You have how many? Who wasting what do what?
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Rickson Gracie once said there is no such thing as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He was asked if he called his art Gracie Jiu-Jitsu or BJJ. He said "I'm Rickson Gracie, I practice jujutsu, and I'm from Brazil. You can think whatever you want. Heh, heh, heh. I'm not too much into names I'm more into doing it, the source it comes from, and my name. " He also also asked about creating his own style. Rickson said "No, that's not true. I don't have my personal [style] because jujutsu covers all the different aspects of real self-defense."Goldglove

The Japanese government itself did not officially mandate until 1925 that the correct name for the martial art taught in the Japanese public schools should be "judo" rather than "jujutsu".[11] In Brazil, the art is still called "Jiu-Jitsu". When the Gracies went to the United States to spread their art, the system became known as "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu" and "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu." "Jiu-jitsu" is an older romanization that was the original spelling of the art in the West, and it is still in common use, whereas the modern Hepburn romanization is "jūjutsu." Other common spellings are jujitsu and ju-jitsu.

I suppose when in Brazil its like calling a Brazil Nut a Nut as theres no need to call it a Brazil nut as your already in Brazil lol.

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#43 Goldglove
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That's well and good but there is no such thing as BJJ. You could be a Brazilian man, who practices Juijutsu. If I am American and study Juijitsu, it does not mean I practice the Art of American Juijitsu. The word BJJ is just to promote and a way to get students in your school.
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#44 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Stats_"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

You're getting a bit self righteous you know. Obviously you're one of the VERY few people who care about Jiu Jitsus inclusion, or lack thereof in the game. Just because you enjoy it, dosen't mean it would be a smart choice to add in a game. Lol, it's a way of life ...Stats_

How exactly am i getting self righteous?! Your just chatting bubbles (I'd put in the more accurate word but i'd get banned). Who said anything about Jiu-Jitsu?! I was on about BJJ which is a differant style altogether as BJJ is ground fighting while jiu-jitsu is eye gouging, Bitting and Chinese burns. Hmmm no one would care about the inclusion or lack of BJJ?! Sadly your wrong again as BJJ is the fastest growing martial arts style in the world, Several million viewers to UFC/Strike Force/ BAMMA must care about this style as its the foundation to many of the viewers favourites fighters style. If Namco was intelligent then the inclusion of BJJ would easiely add couple thousand to there sales as this is the most important thing to Namco.

Yes its a way of life as i train 7/8 x a week. What you doing with your life apart from chatting rubbish on the internet.... Hmmm. Obviously you should just be quiet on the subject as you dont know zilch. Ohhh im being self righteous now, You must be psychic.

Yes, very self righteous. You seem to have taken that very personal too. I can honestly say, no one in this thread but you cares about the inclusion of whatever it is you want included. Especially not to the point where it will effect the games quality. "What you doing with your life apart from chatting rubbish on the internet" Ok, now ... i have what, 255 posts. You have how many? Who wasting what do what?

If you didnt care then why are you replying?! Hypocritical arent you lol. If no one cared then why are we debating it?! This is a forum and it seems were debating. I've been on this site for over a year. Thats my reason!! How many accounts have you had previously to this one?! Personal. No... I dont take it personal as i turn off PC and go on about my life. Simple really.
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#46 SambaLele
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the game will be awesome like most tekken games are.

i'm brazilian, and i myself don't think that not having a brazilian jiu jitsu fighter is that important.

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#47 Dibdibdobdobo
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That's well and good but there is no such thing as BJJ. You could be a Brazilian man, who practices Juijutsu. If I am American and study Juijitsu, it does not mean I practice the Art of American Juijitsu. The word BJJ is just to promote and a way to get students in your school.Goldglove
Difference being that jujitsu envolves striking while BJJ does not. i.e. throwing, trapping, joint locks, holds, gouging, biting, disengagements, striking, and kicking. while BJJ derived from earlier versions (pre-World War II) of Kodokan judo. It has simularaties but BJJ involves only Throws, Joint Locks, Holds, Trapping and chokes.
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#48 The__Havoc
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Of course Tekke 4 existed guys lol. It was just a joke seeing as how Tekken 4 was so poor compared to the others.

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#50 SambaLele
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If you didnt care then why are you replying?! Hypocritical arent you lol. If no one cared then why are we debating it?! This is a forum and it seems were debating. I've been on this site for over a year. Thats my reason!! How many accounts have you had previously to this one?! Personal. No... I dont take it personal as i turn off PC and go on about my life. Simple really.Dibdibdobdobo

I guess the fact you're attempting to insult me, confused mne into thinking your a bit butt hurt :/

I don't care about the inclusion of BJJ, i never claimed i didn't care about telling you i dont care, you don't seem to know what hypoctrical means :/ Oh dear

This is my first account thank you very much :)

Im not attempting to insult you at all. Im pointing out the obvious that you say one thing then contradict yourself with stupid comments. Now if anything your insulting yourself by saying one thing and doing another. I dont know what you are on about with "MNE INTO THINKING YOUR BIG BUTT HURT" so will just leave you to carry on showing your lack on intelligence (Not a insult just a fact). All the rest of your post is utter garbage and not worth talking about.

hey, calm down man.

you're going too far there.

you're offending others for nothing. if you like jiu-jitsu fighting so much you don't really need Tekken to be the game for you, any game would be good.

and believe me, Tekken 6 will be awesome. you can't change that fact just because your beloved fighting style will not be present.