One simple reason why the Wii will ALWAYS dominate the 360 and PS3 in sales

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny portion of them (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will win this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer,

Start thinking outside of the box.

isnt it cheap too?Awinagainov

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny proportion of the non-gamers of this world (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will will this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer, Start thinking out of the box.

jedigemini

Great way to end your post. Personally, I don't like the hardcore community period myself(though I do respect them). I think it's pointless trying to be reasonable about it though, because their gamers. The vast majority of them want their usual gaming fix, with epic gameplay, graphics and other stuff I don't seem to comprehend all that well. They really couldn't care less about non-gamers--or their desires in the gaming market. Just my opinion though--based on what I have seen.

[QUOTE="jedigemini"]

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny proportion of the non-gamers of this world (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will will this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer, Start thinking out of the box.

SailorMars

Great way to end your post. Personally, I don't like the hardcore community period myself(though I do respect them). I think it's pointless trying to be reasonable about it though, because their gamers. The vast majority of them want their usual gaming fix, with epic gameplay, graphics and other stuff I don't seem to comprehend all that well. They really couldn't care less about non-gamers--or their desires in the gaming market. Just my opinion though--based on what I have seen.

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny proportion of the non-gamers of this world (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will will this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer, Start thinking out of the box.

jedigemini

Indeed.

The Wii is small. It's cheap. It's simple, intuitive and user friendly. It's novel and appeals to non-gamers, lapsed gamers and current gamers for various reasons. It has a wide range of software from nasty edutainment type titles to novelty party/mini-game type software and even more traditional gaming experiences. It has the Wii Channels including online, weather, voting and even the Virtual Consoles games etc. It is getting lots of great exposure in the media right now. 

As a long time gamer, and Nintendo fan, I personally am rather dissapointed with the Wii so far, because I am very dissapointed with it's graphics on most games and most of the games are also a bit shallow with hastily implemented controls etc, BUT even I can clearly see exactly why it will continue to sell a bucketload of units, esepcially to non-gamers and even some lapsed gamers etc.

[QUOTE="jedigemini"]

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny proportion of the non-gamers of this world (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will will this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer, Start thinking out of the box.

SailorMars

Great way to end your post. Personally, I don't like the hardcore community period myself(though I do respect them). I think it's pointless trying to be reasonable about it though, because their gamers. The vast majority of them want their usual gaming fix, with epic gameplay, graphics and other stuff I don't seem to comprehend all that well. They really couldn't care less about non-gamers--or their desires in the gaming market. Just my opinion though--based on what I have seen.

There is a big difference between hardcore gamers, and people who claim to be hardcore.  
A hardcore gamer will play games a lot, be interested in the industry, and will be willing to give all games a try.

A person who claims to be hardcore usually plays nothing but graphic intensive M-rated games.

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny portion of them (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will win this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer,

Start thinking outside of the box.

jedigemini

[QUOTE="SailorMars"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny proportion of the non-gamers of this world (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will will this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer, Start thinking out of the box.

jedigemini

Great way to end your post. Personally, I don't like the hardcore community period myself(though I do respect them). I think it's pointless trying to be reasonable about it though, because their gamers. The vast majority of them want their usual gaming fix, with epic gameplay, graphics and other stuff I don't seem to comprehend all that well. They really couldn't care less about non-gamers--or their desires in the gaming market. Just my opinion though--based on what I have seen.

Couldnt of put it better myself.

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny portion of them (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will win this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer,

Start thinking outside of the box.

jedigemini

You couldn't be more wrong. Non-gamers are impressed with fancy graphics. They often judge a game, and decide whether they will buy it, from looking at the back of the box.

True gamers, on the other hand, value GAMEPLAY over graphics. They put far more value on something like a new way to interact with a game than fancy graphics.

[QUOTE="jedigemini"]

There are many, MANY more non-gamers in the world than gamers. Infact, the amount of gamers in the world don't make up more than a couple percent of the worlds population.

Gamers will always be confused as to why the Wii is winning for the simple fact that they are gamers, and have grown accustomed to valuing a consoles worth based on things like like high-end graphics.... they will look at the their respective console, and say things like, "How can the Wii compete with big money, high end next gen games like Gears of War, Halo 3, Lair, MGS 4 ect!" -- listing off an onslaught of graphically superior more hardcore games appearing on their console -- mistakingly thinking that they will somehow make a difference.

Non-gamers don't care about these kinds of games -- they never did, that's why they have yet to determine to become gamers. If Nintendo can penetrate even a tiny portion of them (which they seem to be doing with the Wiimote, Wii-Sports, and other non games) then they will win this console war ten times over.

Stop thinking like a hardcore gamer,

Start thinking outside of the box.

Number_1_Gamer

You couldn't be more wrong. Non-gamers are impressed with fancy graphics. They often judge a game, and decide whether they will buy it, from looking at the back of the box.

True gamers, on the other hand, value GAMEPLAY over graphics. They put far more value on something like a new way to interact with a game than fancy graphics.

You're messing up non-gamers with casuals.  A non-gamer would look at the back of the box, and say "This looks far too violent, I think my nephew would like "generic EC title 500" much better".

Non-gamers don't know a thing about the industry, and don't care about graphics or frame-rate or any of that.

You couldn't be more wrong. Non-gamers are impressed with fancy graphics. They often judge a game, and decide whether they will buy it, from looking at the back of the box.

True gamers, on the other hand, value GAMEPLAY over graphics. They put far more value on something like a new way to interact with a game than fancy graphics.

Number_1_Gamer

The Wii isn't just another console with graphics, it has a hook known here as the Wiimote. The 'What is that?' response is what happens more than not. How it works is the question. Then they see it done or shown and the ease of use makes it appealing to those who haven't used it before. There arn't a great many buttons to scare off people who obviously have no clue what does what. Wii Sports is so easy to get into they wonder why they've never seen something like it before.