Online PC games. Why ??% of them are worse than the PS3 version.

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#1 muffin200
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Just to clarify I only used the PS3 in the title because I own just a PC and a PS3 so I don't want to talk about systems without having experience on them.

A very dark side to lot of PC games is very real and oddly ignored on these forums.

Hacks and cheats - I don't want to post links to sites that show them but just type something likeblack ops 2 hacks into goggle and see the replies. See how many PC down-loadable hacks there are compared to console altering hacks.

To me playing on equal terms is far more important than pretty graphics.

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#2 MonsieurX
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Where you got the 90%?
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#3 muffin200
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Where you got the 90%?MonsieurX

Top of my head - Fair point i'll edit it

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#4 MonsieurX
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Hacks do exist too on consoles anyway
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#6 BPoole96
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I have only encountered hackers a couple times on PC. I used to run into them all the time on PS3 (mainly CoD games).
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#7 Obviously_Right
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Yeah, most PC Games are full of hacking scum, its a sad sad situation.

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#8 br0kenrabbit
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Yes, there are plenty of hacks for PC games. But it's not difficult to avoid hackers because most PC games have dedicated servers. All it takes is finding a good server or two to frequent where the admins are active.

Communities grow up around certain servers and pretty soon you know most of the people who play on said server. Admins will often give out rcon (remote control) to regular players to help police the servers.

Having said that, and having my favorite servers that I frequent, I can honestly say it's been a while since I ran into a hacker, and when I do they aren't around for more than a few minutes.

This isn't consoles where you have to play with whatever strangers it puts you with.

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#9 el3m2tigre
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You're implying all pc games has competitive multiplayer?

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#10 lundy86_4
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Hacks do exist too on consoles anywayMonsieurX

This.

I don't come across many myself (anecdotal), and I don't come across many on consoles (more anecdotes). So i'm not worried about it.

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#11 -Unreal-
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Just to clarify I only used the PS3 in the title because I own just a PC and a PS3 so I don't want to talk about systems without having experience on them.

A very dark side to lot of PC games is very real and oddly ignored on these forums.

Hacks and cheats - I don't want to post links to sites that show them but just type something likeblack ops 2 hacks into goggle and see the replies. See how many PC down-loadable hacks there are compared to console altering hacks.

To me playing on equal terms is far more important than pretty graphics.

muffin200
Since you play on PC, download one of those hacks and go try it out. Come back and let me see your Steam profile so I can laugh at your VAC ban.
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#12 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="muffin200"]

Just to clarify I only used the PS3 in the title because I own just a PC and a PS3 so I don't want to talk about systems without having experience on them.

A very dark side to lot of PC games is very real and oddly ignored on these forums.

Hacks and cheats - I don't want to post links to sites that show them but just type something likeblack ops 2 hacks into goggle and see the replies. See how many PC down-loadable hacks there are compared to console altering hacks.

To me playing on equal terms is far more important than pretty graphics.

-Unreal-

Since you play on PC, download one of those hacks and go try it out. Come back and let me see your Steam profile so I can laugh at your VAC ban.

Pretty much.

Not only that, but PC multiplayer is almost exclusively based around dedicated servers that are actually run by the community, and hackers will get banned immediately.

With that said I think I've seen maybe one hacker this entire generation. People don't hack that often because they can't get away with it on the PC anymore.

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#13 freedomfreak
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I must've been playing on servers blessed by God himself, since I hardly encountered any. The ones that did pop up got taken care of pretty fast.
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#14 EliteM0nk3y
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Hackers exist on every platform, mobile, handheld, console and PC, anyone who tries to claim otherwise is an idiot.
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#16 PannicAtack
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The only time I think I've ever encountered a hacker was, like, one time in Counter-Strike: Source where some ass was using an aimbot. And I think that's the only time I've ever had to deal with one.
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#17 k2theswiss
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pc hackers= you can combat them back and piss them off...

ps3/360 hackers = your F**ked. your butt will hurt... GL hoping activision fixed anything. SHOOT it took activision a minimally 8 months to begin to fix mw2.... and i think we all they brought in a BILLION DOLLARS and suposely they still TOO POOR to do anything...

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#18 faizan_faizan
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VAC says hi.

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#19 Link3301
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I've run into more hackers on Live than I have on PC.

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#20 Vaasman
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If anything I experienced more hackers on xboxlive than I ever have on PC. PC has dedicated servers with player admins, so if you play on trusted servers you'll rarely have to worry about hackers, and only for a moment even if you do. On xboxlive if you run into a hacker your best bet is to just leave the game, hope your report gets noticed, and complain, because there are no dedicated servers and you can't do anything to avoid hackers.

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#21 juno84
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Back when I had my own Counter-Strike server, I used to rebind the hacker's mouse1 to "exit". So as soon as they joined a game and clicked, they'd be back at their desktop!

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#23 Mr_BillGates
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PC Hackers are everywhere. The worse ones are those who hide their hacks to pretend as "pro" aka ban dodgers.

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#24 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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ALl platforms have hacks

Not all PC games have online

you are exaggerating a great deal with the amount of hackers that exist

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#25 AmazonTreeBoa
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I see way more hacking on my PS3 than I do on my PC.
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#26 DJ_Headshot
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Hackers are extremely rare in my experience in the few thousands hours I've played online games on PC I've barely run into any hackers its hardly a big deal at all.

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#27 dom2000
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Depends what game you play. Day Z hackers destroyed for me and im just back from a game of Crysis 2 multiplayer where hackers are a fairly common and annoying occurrence. In games like Counter strike or battlefield however hackers are generally swiftly dealt with assuming the server you are on has decent admins!
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#28 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I once joined a server on Counter Strike Source where the walls were covered in GIF's of pr0n. After 4 hours of that filth I got sick of it and disconnected

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#29 lawlessx
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I once joined a server on Counter Strike Source where the walls were covered in GIF's of pr0n. After 4 hours of that filth I got sick of it and disconnected

OB-47
...why did you stay on the servers for 4 hours if you hated it?
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#30 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

I once joined a server on Counter Strike Source where the walls were covered in GIF's of pr0n. After 4 hours of that filth I got sick of it and disconnected

lawlessx

...why did you stay on the servers for 4 hours if you hated it?

Joke flew right over your head.

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#31 ShadowMoses900
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PC is a more open platform so you will find more hackers on it. But there most PC games are not ruined by them and the hackers are occasional. However you are right, the PC fanboys on here tend to mysteriously ignore and deny a lot of things.

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#32 Moriarity_
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I've encountered more hackers playing on consoles than I have playing on pc.
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#33 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I once joined a server on Counter Strike Source where the walls were covered in GIF's of pr0n. After 4 hours of that filth I got sick of it and disconnected

OB-47

So you hated it but still played for 4 hours on it? :?

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#34 Heil68
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Yes, there are plenty of hacks for PC games. But it's not difficult to avoid hackers because most PC games have dedicated servers. >br0kenrabbit

Really that's all that's needed.

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#35 Plagueless
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Punkbuster. Valve Anti-Cheat. BattleEye. and hundreds of other anti-cheat functions that are running on every legitimate server. I've run into way more modded lobbies in Cod on my Xbox than I have run into cheaters on PC.
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#36 Plagueless
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PC is a more open platform so you will find more hackers on it. But there most PC games are not ruined by them and the hackers are occasional. However you are right, the PC fanboys on here tend to mysteriously ignore and deny a lot of things.

ShadowMoses900

Kinda like you huh? :roll: ;)

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#37 milannoir
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PC is a more open platform so you will find more hackers on it. But there most PC games are not ruined by them and the hackers are occasional. However you are right, the PC fanboys on here tend to mysteriously ignore and deny a lot of things.

ShadowMoses900

Lol, here comes the village idiot, sputtering uninformed nonsense as usual.

I've been playing PC online games for years, and rarely run into cheaters. The problem isn't really the cheaters, which can be dealt with if the devs put some thought into it. The problem is this : for every cheater I've encountered, I've run into 10 times as many idiots and sore losers (your PC equivalents, maybe, ShadowMoses) who whine each time they lose and shriek "cheaaaaat! Haaaaack" when they get owned. I remember being accused of cheating dozens of times when playing Supreme COmmander : Forged Alliance, by noobs who couldn't believe it was possible to get out-spammed so fast.

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#38 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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I get called a hacker when I am dominating people, I am inclined to believe the large amjority of hack calls are false unless its really obvious stuff,
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#39 GarGx1
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I once joined a server on Counter Strike Source where the walls were covered in GIF's of pr0n. After 4 hours of that filth I got sick of it and disconnected

OB-47

I'll bet the admin thought you had a wallhack :P

(You made me laugh, even if others didn't quite get it :D )

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#41 kraken2109
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If someone hacks on a decent pc game an admin will ban them.

If someone hacks on a console game nobody can do anything.

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#42 PCgameruk
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because pc gaming suckskingoflife9
Im not American can you explain this logic to me? What does sucks mean exactly? To me sucks would mean something like drinking liquid from a straw. You "suck" the liquid through a straw. Are you saying console gamers are dehydrated?
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#43 blackace
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Hacks do exist too on consoles anywaylundy86_4

This.

I don't come across many myself (anecdotal), and I don't come across many on consoles (more anecdotes). So i'm not worried about it.

They are on consoles too, but most of those people are banned fairly quickly. At least on the XBox 360 they are. I don't play much online on the PS3 so I don't know how good they are about banning players using modded hardware or hacks. With the XBox 360, you can invite players to your game while they are playing in another game. It's usually pretty easy to add them to your team so you are always playing with your friends.
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#44 guard12
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I have seen more hacking in XBL servers than on PC this generation :|

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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="muffin200"]

Just to clarify I only used the PS3 in the title because I own just a PC and a PS3 so I don't want to talk about systems without having experience on them.

A very dark side to lot of PC games is very real and oddly ignored on these forums.

Hacks and cheats - I don't want to post links to sites that show them but just type something likeblack ops 2 hacks into goggle and see the replies. See how many PC down-loadable hacks there are compared to console altering hacks.

To me playing on equal terms is far more important than pretty graphics.

Ly_the_Fairy

Since you play on PC, download one of those hacks and go try it out. Come back and let me see your Steam profile so I can laugh at your VAC ban.

Pretty much.

Not only that, but PC multiplayer is almost exclusively based around dedicated servers that are actually run by the community, and hackers will get banned immediately.

With that said I think I've seen maybe one hacker this entire generation. People don't hack that often because they can't get away with it on the PC anymore.

yep. things have changed and people are too ignorant to realize that.
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#46 juno84
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I get called a hacker when I am dominating people, I am inclined to believe the large amjority of hack calls are false unless its really obvious stuff,MBirdy88
Yes, a lot of players look at results as opposed to what is actually happening when claiming people hack. e.g. "No one gets that many headshots!" In CS, they'd accuse me of "toggling". The cognitive dissonance is ridiculous. If I do something amazing, it's hacks. If I missed an easy shot, it was because I toggled my hack off... really?

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]I get called a hacker when I am dominating people, I am inclined to believe the large amjority of hack calls are false unless its really obvious stuff,juno84
Yes, a lot of players look at results as opposed to what is actually happening when claiming people hack. e.g. "No one gets that many headshots!" In CS, they'd accuse me of "toggling". The cognitive dissonance is ridiculous. If do something amazing, it's hacks. If I missed an easy shot, it was because I toggled my hack off... really?

Yup I got banned off a server for killing an admin throough a tin fence on CoD4, simply by looking at the UAV on the radar and pot shotting the fence with a light machine gun.... despit ethe killcam showing me miss/guess before actually killing I was a "Wall hacking Ftard".
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#48 lostrib
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[QUOTE="juno84"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"]I get called a hacker when I am dominating people, I am inclined to believe the large amjority of hack calls are false unless its really obvious stuff,MBirdy88
Yes, a lot of players look at results as opposed to what is actually happening when claiming people hack. e.g. "No one gets that many headshots!" In CS, they'd accuse me of "toggling". The cognitive dissonance is ridiculous. If do something amazing, it's hacks. If I missed an easy shot, it was because I toggled my hack off... really?

Yup I got banned off a server for killing an admin throough a tin fence on CoD4, simply by looking at the UAV on the radar and pot shotting the fence with a light machine gun.... despit ethe killcam showing me miss/guess before actually killing I was a "Wall hacking Ftard".

I've been called a hacker for using audio cues in l4d2 to find and kill a Jockey

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#49 Pug-Nasty
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I found BF3 to be much worse on PC than on PS3 (haven't played it on 360). It was laggier and there were more glitchers/hackers in general.

Servers would be better if they had settings to only allow people within a certain window of pings to join, but most of them don't.

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#50 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

So you hated it but still played for 4 hours on it? :?

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I say again: Joke flew right over your heard

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

I once joined a server on Counter Strike Source where the walls were covered in GIF's of pr0n. After 4 hours of that filth I got sick of it and disconnected

GarGx1

I'll bet the admin thought you had a wallhack :P

(You made me laugh, even if others didn't quite get it :D )

Ah someone gets it