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#51 Doom_HellKnight
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Bragging about a service that streams PC games having better visuals than a handheld honestly isn't doing said service any favours. I can also brag that my Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 produce better visuals than a 3DS.

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#52 madskills6117
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Cherry picked Golden Abyss images. Why not post actual gameplay?

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#53 Loki421
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You guys are looking at this all wrong. It doesn't have to be PSVita vs. OnLive. Instead it can be PSVita + OnLive. Hopefully someone will crack that thing and stick OnLive on it.
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#54 windsquid9000
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Cherry picked Golden Abyss images. Why not post actual gameplay?

madskills6117
Those are actual game play. Taken with the Vita's screenshot feature. Maybe it's PR shots that you're looking for?
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#55 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Vita easily. So sad that OnLive can't even best handheld graphics.

Rikusaki

So...
PS Vita > PS3 > PC
Lol, you're so funny.
You do realize that OnLive games run on custom built PCs, right?

they are not PC games. No mods, no customization, no graphical options, ect.

PC >>> Consoles >>> OnLive. So sad you still can't accept that fact.

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#56 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Vita easily. So sad that OnLive can't even best handheld graphics.

ChubbyGuy40

So...
PS Vita > PS3 > PC
Lol, you're so funny.
You do realize that OnLive games run on custom built PCs, right?

they are not PC games. No mods, no customization, no graphical options, ect.

PC >>> Consoles >>> OnLive. So sad you still can't accept that fact.

I wasn't aware that there was any other prerequisite for being a PC game other than being a PC game.

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#57 Loki421
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PC >>> Consoles >>> OnLive. So sad you still can't accept that fact.ChubbyGuy40
While this is true in terms of quality, only OnLive allows me to play on my phone, my tablet, my PC, my TV and any location with wifi or 4G all with the same save and with only a single purchase of the game, which also, b/c of all their great deals usually happens to be about 25% of the cost of what I would have had to pay to buy it just once on any other platform. I can sacrifice a bit of quality for all of that, especially considering quality will increase as internet speeds increase. And at the rate of OnLive's popularity growth I'll probably be playing it on my hacked next gen system(s), which will be the ultimate irony.
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#58 Darkslayer16
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Onlive is a laggy pos even on PC.. I don't even want to think about playing anything through onlive with a touch screen. Vita should be far better and the screenshots chosen don't represent the actual game.

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#59 skrat_01
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Have to say I was pretty stoked to be running Space Marine on my phone.
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#60 Cherokee_Jack
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Wait wait wait...you mean to tell me a PC is more powerful than a handheld?

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#61 LegatoSkyheart
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Vita becaus I can play my games without Wifi.

OnLive I have to have a constant connection at all times.

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#62 windsquid9000
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Vita becaus I can play my games without Wifi.

OnLive I have to have a constant connection at all times.

LegatoSkyheart
Think of it like a DRM and you'll get over it real quick :P
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#63 ChubbyGuy40
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While this is true in terms of quality, only OnLive allows me to play on my phone, my tablet, my PC, my TV and any location with wifi or 4G all with the same save and with only a single purchase of the game, which also, b/c of all their great deals usually happens to be about 25% of the cost of what I would have had to pay to buy it just once on any other platform. I can sacrifice a bit of quality for all of that, especially considering quality will increase as internet speeds increase. And at the rate of OnLive's popularity growth I'll probably be playing it on my hacked next gen system(s), which will be the ultimate irony.Loki421

Alright, and? Quality will increase...but how much? We'll never have the bandwidth for a true 1080p stream anytime in the near future. Why would you ever want to play on a mobile phone or tablet anyway?

Why the hell would you ever limit yourself like that? That's one really stupid way to waste money.

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#64 RandoIph
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While this is true in terms of quality, only OnLive allows me to play on my phone, my tablet, my PC, my TV and any location with wifi or 4G all with the same save and with only a single purchase of the game.Loki421
Yes, it allows you to play on all those things, in very low quality, with input lag and artifacting. Joy. It's not a purchase either, it's a rental.  Purchase would imply ownership, which Onlive grants you at absolutely no level, in anyway. Onlive, limited PC games, with almost none of the benefits of playing on a PC.
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#65 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="Loki421"]While this is true in terms of quality, only OnLive allows me to play on my phone, my tablet, my PC, my TV and any location with wifi or 4G all with the same save and with only a single purchase of the game.RandoIph
Yes, it allows you to play on all those things, in very low quality, with input lag and artifacting. Joy. It's not a purchase either, it's a rental.  Purchase would imply ownership, which Onlive grants you at absolutely no level, in anyway. Onlive, limited PC games, with almost none of the benefits of playing on a PC.

It doesn't need the benefits of conventional PC gaming. It has its own.
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#66 RyviusARC
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Don't let Riku lie to you. This is the best Onlive can look. I live a little an hour or so away from an Onlive server and I have a 13.8mb/s download. Here are some videos I recorded. Dirt 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDxRhOPYG_Q Mafia 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM_FbUi__mI Splinter Cell Conviction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkla4LzpvhM Metro 2033 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjhAkhpJKSQ Duke Nukem Forever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYfhuTXQBGQ Batman Arkham City http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqZT-iTpBSM
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#67 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Vita becaus I can play my games without Wifi.

OnLive I have to have a constant connection at all times.

windsquid9000

Think of it like a DRM and you'll get over it real quick :P

Ugh, Xbox 360 DRM. I hate that I can't play a game like Alan Wake or Fable 2 on my 360 all because I'm not on the Internet.

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#68 RandoIph
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Ugh, Xbox 360 DRM. I hate that I can't play a game like Alan Wake or Fable 2 on my 360 all because I'm not on the Internet.LegatoSkyheart
Why not? I have the Games on Demand version of both and play offline all the time.
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#69 santoron
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Lol,Harry Potter lego.

Rikusaki

It's fun! Way better than those lame iPhone games.

It's like you're fated to make every poor gaming decision possible...

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#70 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]Ugh, Xbox 360 DRM. I hate that I can't play a game like Alan Wake or Fable 2 on my 360 all because I'm not on the Internet.RandoIph
Why not? I have the Games on Demand version of both and play offline all the time.

Wouldn't let me for some reason.

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#71 RandoIph
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Lol,Harry Potter lego.

santoron

It's fun! Way better than those lame iPhone games.

It's like you're fated to make every poor gaming decision possible...

I can see a young Rikusaki buying a 3DO and trying so hard to convince everyone it;s the future. Then buying a Jaguar. Then being one of the two people to buy a Pippin, Gizmondo... and now he shills Onlive on forums as a career.
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#72 RandoIph
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[QUOTE="RandoIph"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]Ugh, Xbox 360 DRM. I hate that I can't play a game like Alan Wake or Fable 2 on my 360 all because I'm not on the Internet.LegatoSkyheart

Why not? I have the Games on Demand version of both and play offline all the time.

Wouldn't let me for some reason.

Did you get a new 360 and redownload them to it? You may just need to do a license transfer, really easy and fast.
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#73 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="RandoIph"] Why not? I have the Games on Demand version of both and play offline all the time.RandoIph

Wouldn't let me for some reason.

Did you get a new 360 and redownload them to it? You may just need to do a license transfer, really easy and fast.

No it just wouldn't let me play them.

then again It was only Fable 2 that wouldn't let me play, and it probably was because it needed to update.

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#74 RandoIph
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That sounds less like a DRM thing and more like a delete and redownload thing.
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#75 RandoIph
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then again It was only Fable 2 that wouldn't let me play, and it probably was because it needed to update.LegatoSkyheart
If you refuse an update it should just kick you off live, so if you have the license on that console you should still be able to play it. "Should" being the operative word. (just not online, but why would you be playing Fable 2 online anyway at this point?)
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#76 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]then again It was only Fable 2 that wouldn't let me play, and it probably was because it needed to update.RandoIph
If you refuse an update it should just kick you off live, so if you have the license on that console you should still be able to play it. "Should" being the operative word. (just not online, but why would you be playing Fable 2 online anyway at this point?)

I wasn't, that's the point.

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#77 JohnF111
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:lol: This is the most stupid thread i've ever seen, comparing a cluster of thousands or even tens of thousands of extremely powerful computers to something.. :lol:... I'm sorry i'll try to.. :lol:.. Nope i can't finish my sentence this is too.. :lol:

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#78 starjet905
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]Vita easily. So sad that OnLive can't even best handheld graphics.Rikusaki
So...
PS Vita > PS3 > PC
Lol, you're so funny.

You do realize that OnLive games run on custom built PCs, right?

Custom built PCs with weak hardware and the clarity is lost over the stream. DERP.

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#79 mitu123
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Vita easily. So sad that OnLive can't even best handheld graphics.

Rikusaki

So...
PS Vita > PS3 > PC
Lol, you're so funny.
You do realize that OnLive games run on custom built PCs, right?

Onlive relies more on internet connection if anything.

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#80 windsquid9000
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Well, color me impressed. I guess whatever was wrong with my phone's wifi radio has passed. I just booted up Split Second and the quality was actually pretty nice and it ran very well. The controls were a bit iffy (racers don't work well with digital sliders; need tilt controls), but it's more than playable. Lego Batman was a joy to play as well.

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#81 Jynxzor
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Onlive relies more on internet connection if anything.mitu123
It's basically the ONLY thing you need, although the availabillity and spread of such good connection that don't lead to a blocky mess of lag are few and far between. Anyways, Vita for me I like being able to play my games off the grid. Even more so with you know...portable games that are rarely ever tethered to a fast wireless connection.
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#82 campzor
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Wait wait wait...you mean to tell me a PC is more powerful than a handheld?

Cherokee_Jack

vita and 3ds demolish PCs

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

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#83 AmazonTreeBoa
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Onlive will never take off with me. Having to connect to the internet to play your games is what kills it for me. And seeing that is what Onlive is all about, I will never have an interest in it.
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#84 AdrianWerner
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Mobile internet is so expensive that the last thing I want to do with it is stream huge ammounts of video through it just to play a game. Completely defeats the point of handheld device.

Also...OnLive is just terribly sucky versions of PC games. I can already play them in vastly superior way on my own PC. If I ever buy Vita it will be for the games PC doesn;t have.

OnLive is nice service for very low-income people who can't afford decent hardware, but for everybody else....lol.

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#85 Jynxzor
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OnLive is nice service for very low-income people who can't afford decent hardware, but for everybody else....lol.AdrianWerner
Low income people have extremly fast and stable internet?
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#86 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]OnLive is nice service for very low-income people who can't afford decent hardware, but for everybody else....lol.Jynxzor
Low income people have extremly fast and stable internet?

No, but they don't care if the game is blurry mess because of their connection.

That's one of the main problems with OnLive. To make it truly work you need extremly fast and stable internet and people who can afford it already can afford good PCs. So OnLive is useless to them.

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#87 Narcadox
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Onlive is such a let down... They made out like you'd be playing Crysis maxed out on your TV...

This is what I get.

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#88 jun_aka_pekto
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vita and 3ds demolish PCs

campzor

*j/k* Actually, no. Dropping the Vita and 3DS would do nothing to the Kaypro. On the other hand, the 3DS and Vita would be demolished if the Kaypro was dropped on them. *j/k*

:lol:

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#89 taterfrickintot
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Onlive is such a let down... They made out like you'd be playing Crysis maxed out on your TV...

This is what I get.

*onlive screenshot*

Narcadox

/thread. onlive sucks.

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#90 Rikusaki
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Well, color me impressed. I guess whatever was wrong with my phone's wifi radio has passed. I just booted up Split Second and the quality was actually pretty nice and it ran very well. The controls were a bit iffy (racers don't work well with digital sliders; need tilt controls), but it's more than playable. Lego Batman was a joy to play as well.

windsquid9000
Now if we could just get some Vectrex games on OnLive. Cosmic Carnage would be nice too. And a flame thrower add-on for every OnLive game!
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#91 Rikusaki
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they are not PC games. No mods, no customization, no graphical options, ect.

ChubbyGuy40

OnLive games will have mods and customization in the future.

Stever Perlman talks about game mods in this interview.

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#92 TheEroica  Moderator
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So i just downloaded and logged into onlive on my droidx to see if rikusakis fanboy rage had any validity to it. I love the idea of it being on my phone and free trials are nice... but uh the lag is so bad that the games are unplayable. Im on my wifi too so i cant imagine how bad 3g and 4g would be. I played dirt 3 and when the screen locked up the controls kept working so basically my dirt 3 experience was screen locks and watching my car explode when it unlocked... its a great idea but what good is it if it doesnt work?
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#93 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="Narcadox"]

Onlive is such a let down... They made out like you'd be playing Crysis maxed out on your TV...

This is what I get.

*onlive screenshot*

taterfrickintot

/thread. onlive sucks.

*opens thread*

His connection?

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#94 mitu123
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

they are not PC games. No mods, no customization, no graphical options, ect.

Rikusaki

OnLive games will have mods and customization in the future.

Stever Perlman talks about game mods in this interview.

Unless they upload mods online and get them into a game somewhere since there are no game files to speak of.

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#95 mitu123
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[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

[QUOTE="Narcadox"]

Onlive is such a let down... They made out like you'd be playing Crysis maxed out on your TV...

This is what I get.

*onlive screenshot*

LastRambo341

/thread. onlive sucks.

*opens thread*

His connection?

We aren't sure of that yet, but even a good connection won't stop the lowest settings, this is one of my best screens:

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#96 Narcadox
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

/thread. onlive sucks.

mitu123

*opens thread*

His connection?

We aren't sure of that yet, but even a good connection won't stop the lowest settings, this is one of my best screens:

I don't think it's a connection issue. I get like 8MB over a normal line. Actual gameplay is fine. Nice and smoothe, no input lag at all. Just looks like ****

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#97 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

*opens thread*

His connection?

Narcadox

We aren't sure of that yet, but even a good connection won't stop the lowest settings, this is one of my best screens:

I don't think it's a connection issue. I get like 8MB over a normal line. Actual gameplay is fine. Nice and smoothe, no input lag at all. Just looks like ****

Wow that is great connection, I guess it's Onlive that's doing this, doesn't make sense for them to do that.