Only PC gaming gives you true HD gaming.

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#101 br0kenrabbit
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who cares whats more popular??? the mass market thats who.

and the mass market would rather buy one of the 3 consoles then upgrade their PC. WHats superior has nothing to do with it, its the market reception.

-GhostMLD-
PC games makes more money and is more popular than any console. Looks like you're missing some facts.
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#102 imprezawrx500
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agreed, a 8600gt can run crysis on high in 600p above 30fps, cod4 on console 600p on med while 8800gt can max it out @ 60+ fps w AA
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#103 Pro_wrestler
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Those were figures given only a few months ago by the PCGA.

And you want ACTIVE gamers? Over 60 million GeForce 7 and 8 series users.

mjarantilla

This is were you provide proof deciphering which of those 60 million GPU owners use theirs for gaming:)
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#104 XturnalS
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Stop acting like PC gaming is more popular then console gaming.

Stop saying how PC is more tech savy then console gaming, cause all the console fanboys dont care, we like to enjoy playing games instead.

Stop acting like PC is relevent or something.

mjarantilla

263 million PC gamers.

source, or i call shinagans

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#105 1carus
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Those were figures given only a few months ago by the PCGA.

And you want ACTIVE gamers? Over 60 million GeForce 7 and 8 series users.

Pro_wrestler

This is were you provide proof deciphering which of those 60 million GPU owners use theirs for gaming:)

I'm not saying they don't, but why would someone purchase a computer with a GeForce 7 or 8 card unless they were using it to play games?

Stop acting like PC gaming is better and more popular then console gaming. Dont mess with the sheep, lemming and cow at the same time on SW, we wont hesitate to gang up on ppl like u and completely serve u.-GhostMLD-

:| This is one of the lamest posts I've ever seen on a forum...

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#106 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Stop acting like PC gaming is more popular then console gaming.

Stop saying how PC is more tech savy then console gaming, cause all the console fanboys dont care, we like to enjoy playing games instead.

Stop acting like PC is relevent or something.

-GhostMLD-

263 million PC gamers.

ya, keep thinking that. how many are ACTIVE gamers???

17 million active accounts on steam alone, millions of xfire, gamespy accounts and that's only scratching the surface. not everyone loves consoles like america does.

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#107 imprezawrx500
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gefore 8800gt/gts and radeon hd 3850/70 outsold ps3/x360 over the holiday period last year and those aren't for browsing the web
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#108 imprezawrx500
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1. plenty games run in true 720p

2. a higher resolution is great when you can play on a larger screen so it will increase the immersion.

now you can play pc on a hd screen.. but if you play it on your crappy 20 inch monitor in 1080P it's worthless in terms of immersion.

3. a video card doesn't run a game.. you need a pc build around that card....

but yeah, when you have a great rig, and play games on the highest settings on a HD projector on 100 inch or larger screen with full 5.1 or 7.1 surround, you get the very best gaming experience. true.

Always-Honest

if you sit on the couch, you need 30+ inches to immerse you as much as a 17" at the desk does

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#109 albi321
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It seems like the only ones who care are hermits.
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#110 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Stop acting like PC gaming is more popular then console gaming.

Stop saying how PC is more tech savy then console gaming, cause all the console fanboys dont care, we like to enjoy playing games instead.

Stop acting like PC is relevent or something.

XturnalS

263 million PC gamers.

source, or i call shinagans

PC Gaming Alliance formally unveiled
"According to Stude's presentation, the PCGA has numerous goals, chief among them being the education of consumers and gamers about PC games. Stude said he wants to fight the misconception that PC gaming is dying when, in fact, some studies point to "massive growth" in this sector of the gaming industry. Specifically, Stude cited a report by DFC Intelligence stating that PC gaming grew 12 percent in profit last year with an estimated forecast of 14 percent growth in 2008. Stude said 263 million gamers currently play titles online with their PCs."

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#111 Mayhem48
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You think console gamers care????

Console owner: OH NOES!!!! Gotta sell my WII, 360, and PS3 cause it doesnt do TRUE HD like a gaming PC does!. OH GOD I WASTED MY MONEY ON A CONSOLE!!!!

LOl keep dreaming. We will play our games and u can keep upgrading your video cards.....

Stop acting like PC gaming is better and more popular then console gaming. Dont mess with the sheep, lemming and cow at the same time on SW, we wont hesitate to gang up on ppl like u and completely serve u.

-GhostMLD-

I definitely do think you guys care, your always going on about the res of games, halo 3 and COD4 for example....

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#112 1carus
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It seems like the only ones who care are hermits.albi321

This is such a crap argument. As soon as you have no comeback, it's suddenly a matter of "no one cares except for you." Honestly, how about you give us something real, instead of your false judgments. I'm sure a lot of console gamers would enjoy better HD.

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#113 daveg1
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only a hadful of games on consoles 1080p where as every game i play on my pc i can get that res ive got my pc linked to a 1080p display...
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#114 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Stop acting like PC gaming is more popular then console gaming.

Stop saying how PC is more tech savy then console gaming, cause all the console fanboys dont care, we like to enjoy playing games instead.

Stop acting like PC is relevent or something.

XturnalS

263 million PC gamers.

source, or i call shinagans

Here is another source 2 million 8800gt cards in 4 months. And these is just a model only from nvida. Imagine how many geforce 8800series cards and 38xx or 29xx radeon cards where sold(i include vgas that can play anything new on max settings in 1080p except crysis) http://www.dvhardware.net/article25241.html

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#115 angelkimne
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Console gaming is just upscaled non-sense.Cant even run games on 720p.A $200 video card runs every game except crysis maxed out in native 1080p.Lol what a joke consoles are in the name of HD gaming.Both MS and sony should get sued.

Atleast the wii is better.It does what it says.

Lol at the people who got a HDTV and dont have a gaming PC.

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Some games on consoles run at true 1080p like virtua tennis 3 atleaast.

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#116 Pro_wrestler
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I'm not saying they don't, but why would someone purchase a computer with a GeForce 7 or 8 card unless they were using it to play games?1carus



Because gaming is not the sole reason for the advancement in PC technology. Isn't that common sense?


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#117 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="1carus"]

I'm not saying they don't, but why would someone purchase a computer with a GeForce 7 or 8 card unless they were using it to play games?Pro_wrestler



Because gaming is not the sole reason for the advancement in PC technology. Isn't that common sense?


What other reason besides gaming would someone have to buy these cards?
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#118 JakeTD21
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Actually almost all 360/PS3 games are in HD.
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#119 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="1carus"]

I'm not saying they don't, but why would someone purchase a computer with a GeForce 7 or 8 card unless they were using it to play games?Vandalvideo



Because gaming is not the sole reason for the advancement in PC technology. Isn't that common sense?


What other reason besides gaming would someone have to buy these cards?

What about creating the games. Buying a pair 8800's is cheaper than purchasing those Quadro and FireGL workstation cards and probably more effective. Sure, they're different on a software level but there are soft-mods that allow them to be taken advantage of in the same ways.

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#120 Vandalvideo
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What about creating the games. Buying a pair 8800's is cheaper than purchasing those Quadro and FireGL workstation cards and probably more effective. Sure, they're different on a software level but there are soft-mods that allow them to be taken advantage of in the same ways. Pro_wrestler
Maybe if you're a budget indie studio, but those are in short supply and very small work groups. The larger companise are buying workbench cards.
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#121 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]What about creating the games. Buying a pair 8800's is cheaper than purchasing those Quadro and FireGL workstation cards and probably more effective. Sure, they're different on a software level but there are soft-mods that allow them to be taken advantage of in the same ways. Vandalvideo
Maybe if you're a budget indie studio, but those are in short supply and very small work groups. The larger companise are buying workbench cards.

Indeed but I'm willing to bet that those indie groups/studios or those hobbyist outnumber the larger studios to a great degree.

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#122 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]What about creating the games. Buying a pair 8800's is cheaper than purchasing those Quadro and FireGL workstation cards and probably more effective. Sure, they're different on a software level but there are soft-mods that allow them to be taken advantage of in the same ways. Pro_wrestler

Maybe if you're a budget indie studio, but those are in short supply and very small work groups. The larger companise are buying workbench cards.

Indeed but I'm willing to bet that those indie groups/studios or those hobbyist outnumber the larger studios to a great degree.

And I'm willing to bet these indie studios only have like 10 people on their payroll at most.
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#123 MetroidPrimePwn
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Maybe so, but I do not see why you needed to make a thread about it...
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#124 aliblabla2007
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Maybe so, but I do not see why you needed to make a thread about it...MetroidPrimePwn

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#125 50shot
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Yeah... but you forgot that gaming isn't just all about high resolution... lol.
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#126 Soulkiller225
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You are correct. But consoles have amazing games too. So does the PC.
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#127 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="jangojay"]

Hmm why are you getting such bad rates with that card at medium settings.. that shouldn't be happening.. I recently built up a E6600 2gig 8800GT etc etc for a friend and it puts crysis on high at and the framerate goes between 25-35fps.. nothign unplayable or sluggish.

lowe0

Beats me. I've wasted plenty of time trying to figure it out, before I just gave up and turned it down to Medium. It's on an E6750 w/ 4GB@800, so it shouldn't be giving me any trouble.

What resolution are you playing?

And I am quite positive you are playing in DX10?DX10 destroys your performance with no noticible visual enhancements.

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#128 skrat_01
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1. plenty games run in true 720p

2. a higher resolution is great when you can play on a larger screen so it will increase the immersion.

now you can play pc on a hd screen.. but if you play it on your crappy 20 inch monitor in 1080P it's worthless in terms of immersion.

3. a video card doesn't run a game.. you need a pc build around that card....

but yeah, when you have a great rig, and play games on the highest settings on a HD projector on 100 inch or larger screen with full 5.1 or 7.1 surround, you get the very best gaming experience. true.

Always-Honest

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Crysis @ 720p, on a 32" HD TV
High settings + Natural Mod.

See evything you say about a 'HD TV advantage' and 'immersiveness' is relative to PC gaming regarless.

Or perhaps the 'console gaming on the couch' argument?

PC gaming still falls under this advantage.

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#130 hongkingkong
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People like to ignore facts. PC games have higher resolutions, cheaper games and free extra content and online but console fanboys still like to think nobody wants to play PC games... sad, for them really because I'm enjoying the superior format along with some neat games on other systems too.
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#131 RK-Mara
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2. a higher resolution is great when you can play on a larger screen so it will increase the immersion.

now you can play pc on a hd screen.. but if you play it on your crappy 20 inch monitor in 1080P it's worthless in terms of immersion.

Always-Honest

1080p on a 20'' inch monitor might make a bigger difference than 1080p on a 50'' HDTV because with PC you are much closer to the screen and you can actually see the difference.