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#1 MikeE21286
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Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC version
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Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionMikeE21286

Im debating on which to get, I have a sick PC and I know it will look best on the PC, but I do love my 360 live community.

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Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionMikeE21286

I doubt it

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#4 ArisShadows
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I don't know, I took the second of the last copy today at walmart.
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#5 hockeyruler12
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same here...every gamestop sold out, every best buy sold out...

then i went to wal-mart and they had 20 copies...

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i walked into my EB games on friday and they had like 10 left

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#7 ParasiteDemon
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You won't be able to tell because of Steam, alot of people would have bought it from there to be in the TF2 beta
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#8 GoodkupoBan
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same here...every gamestop sold out, every best buy sold out...

then i went to wal-mart and they had 20 copies...

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:shock: Who shops at Wal-mart?

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#9 draak3000
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Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionMikeE21286

Its hard to judge which version will sell better as I and many many other players have bought orange box through steam. These figures are never counted in the official game tracking stats as far as I know. But who cares which sells better as long as they both sell out!

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#10 Reyes360
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i walked into my EB games on friday and they had like 10 left

mattyomo99

I walked into my Gamespot and the person at the register asked me if I had any copies of the game for sale.

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#11 XD88FDB
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[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

same here...every gamestop sold out, every best buy sold out...

then i went to wal-mart and they had 20 copies...

GoodkupoBan

:shock: Who shops at Wal-mart?

It's the biggest Retail outlet in the US...:roll:

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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionReyes360

Im debating on which to get, I have a sick PC and I know it will look best on the PC, but I do love my 360 live community.

Same with me man....Anyone I know who plays videogames has a 360, and I don't know anyone who plays PC games really. I'm getting it on 360 I think ( or maybe PC....arghhh.....who knows )

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because its bang for the buck!! most people will just pick up the box see 5 games in 1 look at another see 1 , and buy it because of the fact they paying $60 for 5 games to $60 for 1.
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionReyes360

Im debating on which to get, I have a sick PC and I know it will look best on the PC, but I do love my 360 live community.

I'd get it for Xbox Live so you can play with people on your friends list and use voice chat. It will look better on the PC but i'd rather play it on my 360 and 51 inch hdtv.
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Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionMikeE21286

For zero good reason. The Xbox 360 version has fixed resolution, framerate, and graphics, no mods, have to pay to play online, plus controller+d-pad, Xbox Live (the s**ts...).

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I was expecting a number, but I got my copy on the 11th and am enjoying it very much.
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Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionMikeE21286

I think there have already been tons of sales through Steam. Because if you had pre-ordered it through Steam, you would have not only just paid $45, but you would've also had instant access to basically the full version of TF2.

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Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.
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#19 BobHipJames
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[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionxXHackettXx

Im debating on which to get, I have a sick PC and I know it will look best on the PC, but I do love my 360 live community.

I'd get it for Xbox Live so you can play with people on your friends list and use voice chat. It will look better on the PC but i'd rather play it on my 360 and 51 inch hdtv.

I'd stop lying to the guy. No mods, Steam WTFPwns Xbox Live (please don't argue this, because you don't know what you're talking about). Voice chat is integral to PC gaming....and you don't have to use the PoS Microsoft official headset (which is ridiculously overpriced for what you get). Steam games have a unified friend's list and in-game chat. Face it, Xbox Live is already outdated and closed network systems are for 12 year olds who don't want freedom or uniqueness in their gameplay and accessorization.

AND I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH: MODS, MODS, MODS, MODS.

Don't get the jaggy mess that will be the console versions.

Oh, yeah, and price: even at Gamestop, the PC version is $50, the 360 version is $60. Why screw yourself? Not to mention: at Fry's, the 360 version was $60, the PC version was $37. If you had pre-ordered via Steam the PC version would be $45, plus TF2 beta. Prices are skewed in favor of the PC.

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#20 mattyomo99
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[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

same here...every gamestop sold out, every best buy sold out...

then i went to wal-mart and they had 20 copies...

GoodkupoBan

:shock: Who shops at Wal-mart?

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#21 MikeE21286
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Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.-Tretiak

like all this mention of Steam sales...yeah, I'm sure...but do people really think they outsell the retail? I mean I don't buy any games off the internet (like via Steam or anything like that) and for the previous person talking about it being $45 on Steam if you pre-ordered....it was like $35 at Circuit City this whole week.

I don't know,. I don't think sales over the internet are greater than those in retail stores.

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[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versionMikeE21286

Im debating on which to get, I have a sick PC and I know it will look best on the PC, but I do love my 360 live community.

Same with me man....Anyone I know who plays videogames has a 360, and I don't know anyone who plays PC games really. I'm getting it on 360 I think ( or maybe PC....arghhh.....who knows )

I thought I was the only one like that. I know a ton of people from all over the world that play 360 games but I don't know a soul that plays PC games. There was a time that I had friends into PC games but they have since stopped completely.

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Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.-Tretiak

Not to mention piracy.

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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.MikeE21286

like all this mention of Steam sales...yeah, I'm sure...but do people really think they outsell the retail? I mean I don't buy any games off the internet (like via Steam or anything like that) and for the previous person talking about it being $45 on Steam if you pre-ordered....it was like $35 at Circuit City this whole week.

I don't know,. I don't think sales over the internet are greater than those in retail stores.

The Xbox 360 version or the PC version was $35? I bet it's the PC version.

So will you cut the crap about the Xbox 360 version being preferable? I'm not trying to state that the PC version outsold the Xbox 360 version, I'm trying to state that it's totally ridiculous given the PC version is the best version without argument.

You'll understand when you play the gun game mod on a dedicated server with deathmatch mod and a cel shading mod on a custom map.

I seriously hope you'll give up this charade and give that a chance.

Steam is the largest videogame digital distro service on the net currently. I would argue that it even trumps, to a great degree, Xbox Live as a digital distro service. Demos, full size games, PopCap games....a large array of PC developers have lined up (from THQ/Company of Heroes to Sid Meier's Civ IV) to distro their games on Steam.

Don't underestimate that kind of drawing power, but accept that the sales are probably going to be inevitably skewed.

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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.turgore

Not to mention piracy.

Yeah....piracy completely KILLS PC sales IMO. I mean its so easy to find a pirated copy of a PC game that it's almost begging you to pirate it.

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[QUOTE="turgore"]

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.MikeE21286

Not to mention piracy.

Yeah....piracy completely KILLS PC sales IMO. I mean its so easy to find a pirated copy of a PC game that it's almost begging you to pirate it.

Because its SOOOOOOO easy to pirate games that require steam AUTH. Oh yaeh.
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#27 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.BobHipJames

like all this mention of Steam sales...yeah, I'm sure...but do people really think they outsell the retail? I mean I don't buy any games off the internet (like via Steam or anything like that) and for the previous person talking about it being $45 on Steam if you pre-ordered....it was like $35 at Circuit City this whole week.

I don't know,. I don't think sales over the internet are greater than those in retail stores.

The Xbox 360 version or the PC version was $35? I bet it's the PC version.

So will you cut the crap about the Xbox 360 version being preferable? I'm not trying to state that the PC version outsold the Xbox 360 version, I'm trying to state that it's totally ridiculous given the PC version is the best version without argument.

You'll understand when you play the gun game mod on a dedicated server with deathmatch mod and a cel shading mod on a custom map.

I seriously hope you'll give up this charade and give that a chance.

dude, i'm not even advocating the 360 version being better, just holding a conversation/discussion in here is all. (if that's what you got out of my post then I'm sorry). And yeah, it was the PC version that was $35 (the only reason I mentioned the PC version sale price was that a previous poster said that you could buy the game off of steam for $45 if you pre-ordered it).

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#28 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="turgore"]

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.Vandalvideo

Not to mention piracy.

Yeah....piracy completely KILLS PC sales IMO. I mean its so easy to find a pirated copy of a PC game that it's almost begging you to pirate it.

Because its SOOOOOOO easy to pirate games that require steam AUTH. Oh yaeh.

well I was just speaking about PC game sales in general......my post said kills "PC sales". Not all PC games require Steam AUTH

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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="turgore"]

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.Vandalvideo

Not to mention piracy.

Yeah....piracy completely KILLS PC sales IMO. I mean its so easy to find a pirated copy of a PC game that it's almost begging you to pirate it.

Because its SOOOOOOO easy to pirate games that require steam AUTH. Oh yaeh.

It is easy.

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#30 Vandalvideo
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well I was just speaking about PC game sales in general......my post said kills "PC sales". Not all PC games require Steam AUTHMikeE21286
Piracy is an overblown issue, and any PC gamer worth his marbles know its merely a scapegoat for greedy developers. Cases in point; ID and Epic. They both complain about how "TEH PIRACY IS KILLING OUR GAMES LAWL", but their newest gamesl ike Quake 4 and Unreal are largely online based, and its bollocks hard to pirate online gamse in the first place. Only a consolite would think "Piracy is killing PC sales".
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#31 Vandalvideo
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It is easy.Deihmos
No, its not.
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]well I was just speaking about PC game sales in general......my post said kills "PC sales". Not all PC games require Steam AUTHVandalvideo
Piracy is an overblown issue, and any PC gamer worth his marbles know its merely a scapegoat for greedy developers. Cases in point; ID and Epic. They both complain about how "TEH PIRACY IS KILLING OUR GAMES LAWL", but their newest gamesl ike Quake 4 and Unreal are largely online based, and its bollocks hard to pirate online gamse in the first place. Only a consolite would think "Piracy is killing PC sales".

Well I mean isn't their a pirated copy of Bioshock PC out there (and that requires an online authentication)....there are workaround easily available. And not all the games require online play. So it DOES contribute to it, maybe not as much as the developers make it out to be.

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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Game is sold out everywhere around me......2 Best Buys and 7 Toys R us Stores (7 :shock: ) I have a feeling it is gonna sell more than the PC versiontonythestudent

I doubt it

It might do actually, alot of PC users already have HAlf-Life 2 and might buy the extra's seperatly off steam.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]well I was just speaking about PC game sales in general......my post said kills "PC sales". Not all PC games require Steam AUTHMikeE21286

Piracy is an overblown issue, and any PC gamer worth his marbles know its merely a scapegoat for greedy developers. Cases in point; ID and Epic. They both complain about how "TEH PIRACY IS KILLING OUR GAMES LAWL", but their newest gamesl ike Quake 4 and Unreal are largely online based, and its bollocks hard to pirate online gamse in the first place. Only a consolite would think "Piracy is killing PC sales".

Well I mean isn't their a pirated copy of Bioshock PC out there (and that requires an online authentication)....there are workaround easily available. And not all the games require online play. So it DOES contribute to it, maybe not as much as the developers make it out to be.

Only a neglible ammount. The work arounds for pirating games that require online verification are highly illegal and require a LOT more effort than usual piracy. Add on to the fact that most of these games are getting stringent anti-piracy, the vast majority of PC gamers will find it way too hard to pirate them in the first place. You also can't say that these pirates are contributing to less sales. Prove they had any intention of buying the agmes int he first place!
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Any comparisons between the 360 sales and PC sales are bound to be skewed, though. Most PC gamers have already bought Half-Life 2 and Episode One so they may not buy the whole Orange Box. Not to mention the Steam sales subtract largely from the retail sales.turgore

Not to mention piracy.

Good luck pirating a Steam game and playing online.

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#37 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]It is easy.Deihmos

No, its not.

It is easy and it can be played online. That is all I will say.

Its harder, and it can't be played online without using LANs or private servers that don't use VAC or the steam services. The process gets so monotonous that it defeats the purpose, and the vast amjority of PC gamers wouldn't put up with it.
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#38 hockeyruler12
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same here...every gamestop sold out, every best buy sold out...

then i went to wal-mart and they had 20 copies...

GoodkupoBan

:shock: Who shops at Wal-mart?

over 75% of americans...

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sold out evrywhere here too
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I'm starting to think that maybe they just didn't make enough copies. It wouldn't surprise me considering Valve pushes Steam so hard. Maybe they weren't expecting much of a demand from console gamers.
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#42 Vandalvideo
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You clearly don't know anything so just leave it at that. ;)Deihmos
Telling me I'm wrong sure is convincing dude. No really, it is. /sarcasm YEAH WE'lL YOU'RE WROGN LAWL.
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#43 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]well I was just speaking about PC game sales in general......my post said kills "PC sales". Not all PC games require Steam AUTHVandalvideo

Piracy is an overblown issue, and any PC gamer worth his marbles know its merely a scapegoat for greedy developers. Cases in point; ID and Epic. They both complain about how "TEH PIRACY IS KILLING OUR GAMES LAWL", but their newest gamesl ike Quake 4 and Unreal are largely online based, and its bollocks hard to pirate online gamse in the first place. Only a consolite would think "Piracy is killing PC sales".

Well I mean isn't their a pirated copy of Bioshock PC out there (and that requires an online authentication)....there are workaround easily available. And not all the games require online play. So it DOES contribute to it, maybe not as much as the developers make it out to be.

Only a neglible ammount. The work arounds for pirating games that require online verification are highly illegal and require a LOT more effort than usual piracy. Add on to the fact that most of these games are getting stringent anti-piracy, the vast majority of PC gamers will find it way too hard to pirate them in the first place. You also can't say that these pirates are contributing to less sales. Prove they had any intention of buying the agmes int he first place!

Touche'. Good points. It's all theoretical, because we'll never know for sure anyways.

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#44 MikeE21286
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I'm starting to think that maybe they just didn't make enough copies. It wouldn't surprise me considering Valve pushes Steam so hard. Maybe they weren't expecting much of a demand from console gamers.Gamer556

I think that has something to do with it. They probably forecasted the amount of copies needed based off of how Half Life 2 sold (which was quite poorly if I remember right) on Xbox 1

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#45 Cedmln
Member since 2006 • 8802 Posts
See hermits? This is why consoles >>> PCs. Its just more convenient.
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#46 BumFluff122
Member since 2004 • 14853 Posts
All those who say "the iracy for PC gaming is blown way out of proportion" obviously live in their own little unique world where 100's and 1000's of illegally pirated PC games aren't being sold everywhere and anywhere. Why on earth do you think the developers make such a big deal out of it? To catch those 1 or 2 people that do it?
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#47 Zeliard9
Member since 2007 • 6030 Posts
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]It is easy.Deihmos

No, its not.

It is easy and it can be played online. That is all I will say.

Its harder, and it can't be played online without using LANs or private servers that don't use VAC or the steam services. The process gets so monotonous that it defeats the purpose, and the vast amjority of PC gamers wouldn't put up with it.

You clearly don't know anything so just leave it at that. ;)

Nothing's stopping you from sending him a PM. Steam is infamous for being tough to crack. I know you can do it, but it isn't "easy", and more importantly, it's hardly common knowledge. A cracked Steam client will allow you to play the games, but good luck trying to play them online.

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#48 BumFluff122
Member since 2004 • 14853 Posts

"35% of the software installed on computers was pirated in 2004"

http://www.playitcybersafe.com/pdfs/cyberfrontier-children.pdf

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#49 Gamer556
Member since 2006 • 3846 Posts

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]I'm starting to think that maybe they just didn't make enough copies. It wouldn't surprise me considering Valve pushes Steam so hard. Maybe they weren't expecting much of a demand from console gamers.MikeE21286

I think that has something to do with it. They probably forecasted the amount of copies needed based off of how Half Life 2 sold (which was quite poorly if I remember right) on Xbox 1

In fact, I'm almost positive that's what happened. Selling out a game over a large number of retailers is a remarkably hard thing to do, considering how cheap and easy it is to print DVDs. I mean, Halo 3 sold like 3 million ina week in the US alone, and I don't know anyone who had trouble finding a copy.

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#50 horrowhip
Member since 2005 • 5002 Posts

You won't be able to tell because of Steam, alot of people would have bought it from there to be in the TF2 betaParasiteDemon

Yeah, the week after they opened the beta, there were 40,000 full servers(24 people per server) and about 70,000 total servers. Was rediculous...