[QUOTE="blahzor"] The problem here is that you are assuming things. Ocarina MAY have fallen had it recieved more reviews, or its average may have risen.. one cannot know for sure.
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True but Metroid Prime is the best scores game with a high number of reviews so to me it's number one by default. Especially with it being a later released game and having it have a much harder time getting a good score.
oh that is no doubt impressive, and i don't mean to discredit prime.. but, despite ocarina's limited reviews, is there really any doubt it would hold up well otherwise, if more sources existed then. It was constantly raved about, and is still to this day.. gamespot has even said themselves, as i said in my last post, that to not call it one of the greatest games ever is criminal.
Regardless, we cannot dismiss OoT simply because there were not as many review sources back then. Especially since it tops most critics "greatest games" list, usually only topelled by the original super mario brothers.
In my opinion, there is really little reason to debate this.. there is no way of knowing if ocarina would fall, remain neutral or even clime if there were more review sources at the time of its release. As such, it is unfair to simply assume the orange box or other would score better. It is gamerankings top rated game, but that doesn't mean it is THEE best game ever.. and that's where the debate comes in, just so long as it's not clouded with personal preference.
I dont' agree with that last statement exactly. Zelda had less concepts to build off of. Not many 3d adventure games came before zelda that were that good; nor had many 3d games come before itthat controlled so fluidly. I believe zelda was one of the first games to have such technical details(huge worlds, unique characters and facial expersions, and all the attention to details), huge scope, and excellent combat mechanics. Some of these things are seen as second nature today.. someonelooks at Twilight princess attention to detail, for instance, and isn't terribly impressed, that is because it was made standard. But it didn't used to be so, and there in lies the difficulty of creating a game with such concepts and why oot is so impressive. Back to the mechanics, Zelda invented Z targeting, Prime used that. So, a mechanic prime used to make the game flow so well was created by zelda. If zelda's competiion was lesser, that is because they were doing less.. obviously, which meant zelda had to create more, rather then perfect existing concepts. Granted, that is not to say prime didn't invent either, but mearly that though it may seem prime had harder standards, it also had more to look back on for inspiration in one way or another.. that is to say, it is just as hard then as it is now.. at least. I hope that made sense, i'm rather tired and found it more difficult to convey my thoughts then i, well, thought.
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