Out of all the game services; Steam is BY FAR THE WORST

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#101 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] Steam avatar XDD :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah. Got a problem with that?

No, you can have what ever kind of avatar you like. :?

Alright then. Back on topic, you cant blame steam for the MONSTROUS amount of people downloading their games too. The sale attracts a lot of people to just go crazy and buy everything, so naturally there is a slow down (for EVERYONE) when installing. But, what people have been saying is that why didnt you just install it from the disk? And no, dont give me angry remarks about your "experience" just tell us, Why?
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#102 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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But, what people have been saying is that why didnt you just install it from the disk? And no, dont give me angry remarks about your "experience" just tell us, Why? kris9031998
Because I think he tried, and Steam woudn't allow him. I had the same issue on launch.

I had to use a workaround to install the game from the disk.

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#103 heretrix
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] are you blind or just plainly stupid? the game installed but its not running because of busy servers. How is this my fault?

Mozelleple112

You waited 4-5 hours downloading it from Steam, instead of installing it from the disk, but ok yea, i'm the stupid one.:roll:

You fail to understand that it cannot be installed from the disk, how hard is that to comprehend?

CLOSE. STEAM. THEN INSTALL.I've been playing Skyrim all day with no issues.

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#104 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"]But, what people have been saying is that why didnt you just install it from the disk? And no, dont give me angry remarks about your "experience" just tell us, Why? Stevo_the_gamer

Because I think he tried, and Steam woudn't allow him. I had the same issue on launch.

I had to use a workaround to install the game from the disk.

Okay then. But if theres a workaround, why didnt he just look it up? :?

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#105 iamrob7
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I must admit my Steam downloading speed has dipped a little. However I have downloaded over 30GB of games over the last couple of days with no speed decrease at all. So I can't really complain, especially at these prices.

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#106 Mozelleple112
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I ran into that problem as well. SKyrim wouldn't install off the disk that POS. Thankfully, there was a work around found here that allowed me to install the game off the disk. No service is perfect, Mozel. Stevo_the_gamer
Reading your post got me really excited, I actually, just for a second believed that you found the solution to my problems... And then I was linked to the same guide that I was linked to on page 1, which didn't help me at all because it still refuses to install from the damned disk :cry:
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#107 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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CLOSE. STEAM. THEN INSTALL.I've been playing Skyrim all day with no issues.

heretrix

I tried that heretrix back on 11/11, and it failed to do anything--again, in order to install from the disk you had to do a workaround. Not everyone knows about it, I angrily searched for it on the Steam support page. Had to use this.

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#108 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] Reading your post got me really excited, I actually, just for a second believed that you found the solution to my problems... And then I was linked to the same guide that I was linked to on page 1, which didn't help me at all because it still refuses to install from the damned disk :cry:

What's your steam, I can try to help you walk through it if you have a microphone or through the IM.
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#109 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Okay then. But if theres a workaround, why didnt he just look it up? :?

kris9031998

Looks like he tried, but still ran into problems. Might be a user side problem, but Steam can be finnicky.

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#111 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] You fail to understand that it cannot be installed from the disk, how hard is that to comprehend?

Mozelleple112

CLOSE. STEAM. THEN INSTALL.I've been playing Skyrim all day with no issues.

OHHHHHh THANK YOU, THAT's WHAT I WAS MISSING, OH GEEZ MAN, NOW I CAN INSTALL IT :D!!! No wait, I'm not a 2 year old and I can read and follow instructions, I did this 6 hours ago, and it didn't work.

Well that was rude.
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#112 Mozelleple112
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Alright this just got so frustrating I called my friend who also has Skyrim, and bought from the same place as me. He claimed that he had the exact same problem as me; except downloading wasn't as simple as it is for me. My 460kb/s may be realtively slow, but his internet (messed up) hardly gets 50kb/s so downloading via Steam was hardly an option.

So he tells me that he called the store he bought Skyrim from and apparently the sell virtually EMPTY retail disk, just an empty disk and a code to unlock via steam. My friend then spent days downloading and it worked.

What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

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#113 kris9031998
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Alright this just got so frustrating I called my friend who also has Skyrim, and bought from the same place as me. He claimed that he had the exact same problem as me; except downloading wasn't as simple as it is for me. My 460kb/s may be realtively slow, but his internet (messed up) hardly gets 50kb/s so downloading via Steam was hardly an option.

So he tells me that he called the store he bought Skyrim from and apparently the sell virtually EMPTY retail disk, just an empty disk and a code to unlock via steam. My friend then spent days downloading and it worked.

What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

Mozelleple112
Well, yeah. Its a steamworks game.
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#114 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

Mozelleple112

Completely false. Don't spread misinformation. You can still install it from the disk.

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#115 glez13
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]CLOSE. STEAM. THEN INSTALL.I've been playing Skyrim all day with no issues.

Stevo_the_gamer

I tried that heretrix back on 11/11, and it failed to do anything--again, in order to install from the disk you had to do a workaround. Not everyone knows about it, I angrily searched for it on the Steam support page. Had to use this.

Do you people realize that that super secret fix is exactly what Iowe0 pointed at in the first page around the first 10 posts right? :|

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#117 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="heretrix"]CLOSE. STEAM. THEN INSTALL.I've been playing Skyrim all day with no issues.

kris9031998

OHHHHHh THANK YOU, THAT's WHAT I WAS MISSING, OH GEEZ MAN, NOW I CAN INSTALL IT :D!!! No wait, I'm not a 2 year old and I can read and follow instructions, I did this 6 hours ago, and it didn't work.

Well that was rude.

Sorry, I guess you're right, I've been a bit too bitter/mean towards those who are actually trying to help :x But keep in mind, I am not stupid; there is no reason to condescendingly tell me to do something simple like make sure my modem is turned on. I'm just so frustrated I could strangle a kitten right now.

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#118 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Do you people realize that that super secret fix is exactly what Iowe0 pointed at in the first page around the first 10 posts right? :|

glez13

You think I read every single post in this thread? I was just trying to help, jackass.

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#119 g0ddyX
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Steam sales are slowing down servers.

And the people who whine about PS3 install times no nothing of install times..

Give them the Old Amstrad Cassette Computer and watch em go mentally insane from waiting.

PC install times have generally been longer but its for the best, ie, tweaking, setting up controls, sound etc.

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#120 glez13
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Alright this just got so frustrating I called my friend who also has Skyrim, and bought from the same place as me. He claimed that he had the exact same problem as me; except downloading wasn't as simple as it is for me. My 460kb/s may be realtively slow, but his internet (messed up) hardly gets 50kb/s so downloading via Steam was hardly an option.

So he tells me that he called the store he bought Skyrim from and apparently the sell virtually EMPTY retail disk, just an empty disk and a code to unlock via steam. My friend then spent days downloading and it worked.

What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

Mozelleple112

Well at least now we know that you aren't a dumbass that can't install a game from the disk. You simply got ripped off by a store, dumbass.

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#122 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]CLOSE. STEAM. THEN INSTALL.I've been playing Skyrim all day with no issues.

Mozelleple112

OHHHHHh THANK YOU, THAT's WHAT I WAS MISSING, OH GEEZ MAN, NOW I CAN INSTALL IT :D!!! No wait, I'm not a 2 year old and I can read and follow instructions, I did this 6 hours ago, and it didn't work.

Well maybe if you didn't act like a 6 year old people wouldn't treat you like one. then again, you are then one with the problem NOT me. it's not my fault you can't handle a little problem, even if it is steams fault.

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#123 Am_Confucius
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why is download required when you have the disc?

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TC did this part wrong, so his arguument is invalid. If you have the disc in your DVD-drive when entering the code in Steam, you will be asked if you want to install it from the disc, and even if you failed to do this, you can chose to install a game from the disc at any time. So please TC, stop spreading lies about Steam.
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I'm guessing the TC doesn't want any help? Or was this all a ploy to stir something up against Steam?
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I'm guessing the TC doesn't want any help? Or was this all a ploy to stir something up against Steam?Stevo_the_gamer
That's what I'm thinking.
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So he tells me that he called the store he bought Skyrim from and apparently they sell virtually EMPTY retail disk, just an empty disk and a code to unlock via steam. My friend then spent days downloading and it worked.

What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

Mozelleple112

LOL. The perfect slap in the face to those who resist DD and insist on having a hardcopy.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

So he tells me that he called the store he bought Skyrim from and apparently they sell virtually EMPTY retail disk, just an empty disk and a code to unlock via steam. My friend then spent days downloading and it worked.

What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

PatchMaster

LOL. The perfect slap in the face to those who resist DD and insist on having a hardcopy.

Then why bother putting a disk? Just put a code and say to the customer they have to redeem that code on Steam for download the game.
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#128 Marka1700
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The only issue I have with steam is the erratic and unstable download speeds I keep getting. Then there is Origin that lies about it's transfer rate e.g. It often tells me I'm downloading at 1.3mb/s when I know that is impossible to get on an 8Mbit connection.
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I don't have Skyrim yet. But, I plan to buy the retail disc at Walmart.

For those who have already done the same, were any of you prompted to download the Skyrim game files from Steam (aside from updates)? I have several retail games that require Steam. But, I have yet to see one that requires downloading the game files when I already have the discs.

If I have to download the binaries and other files when I already have the disc, I'd be ticked off too.

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#130 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

So he tells me that he called the store he bought Skyrim from and apparently they sell virtually EMPTY retail disk, just an empty disk and a code to unlock via steam. My friend then spent days downloading and it worked.

What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

Miroku32

LOL. The perfect slap in the face to those who resist DD and insist on having a hardcopy.

Then why bother putting a disk? Just put a code and say to the customer they have to redeem that code on Steam for download the game.

So there's something tangible at least.
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I don't have Skyrim yet. But, I plan to buy the retail disc at Walmart.

For those who have already done the same, were any of you prompted to download the Skyrim game files from Steam (aside from updates)? I have several retail games that require Steam. But, I have yet to see one that requires downloading the game files when I already have the discs.

If I have to download the biaries and other files when I already have the disc, I'd be ticked off too.

jun_aka_pekto
It makes sense if there's an update for the game that was released. Because obviously they can't put those updates on the disc when they are sitting on store shelves. :P
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#132 glez13
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[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

So he tells me that he called the store he bought Skyrim from and apparently they sell virtually EMPTY retail disk, just an empty disk and a code to unlock via steam. My friend then spent days downloading and it worked.

What the hell? retail copy with nothing but a blank DVD and a code to download off Steam????

Miroku32

LOL. The perfect slap in the face to those who resist DD and insist on having a hardcopy.

Then why bother putting a disk? Just put a code and say to the customer they have to redeem that code on Steam for download the game.

Seriously I think this is a BS myth. How the hell wouldn't he notice that the disk is empty after trying a lot of stuff to get it installed? I know some stores are know for sleazy maneuvers but come on, even if true it would be noticeable.

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For those who have already done the same, were any of you prompted to download the Skyrim game files from Steam (aside from updates)?jun_aka_pekto
I initially received an error message, but I corrected it and, indeed, installed the game fully from the disk. To which case after it fully installed it then proceeded to download the respective updates.
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#134 glez13
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I don't have Skyrim yet. But, I plan to buy the retail disc at Walmart.

For those who have already done the same, were any of you prompted to download the Skyrim game files from Steam (aside from updates)? I have several retail games that require Steam. But, I have yet to see one that requires downloading the game files when I already have the discs.

If I have to download the binaries and other files when I already have the disc, I'd be ticked off too.

jun_aka_pekto

No you don't have to. What the TC is apparently suffering is a variant of a known Steam issue that has some sort of connection problem when you try to install it. So Steam instead of trying to confirm why it had the error (was it the lack of a disc or a connection error?) just takes it as if you don't have the disk so it starts to download it. Dumbass Steam. :x

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#135 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

You bought the disk version...but you're downloading it?

what

Mozelleple112

Yup... Steam logic. what a sh***y service.

Yup, steam sure is a crappy service because you cant figure out how to install a game from teh disc, yup, what a bunch of ****s.

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#136 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]For those who have already done the same, were any of you prompted to download the Skyrim game files from Steam (aside from updates)?Stevo_the_gamer
I initially received an error message, but I corrected it and, indeed, installed the game fully from the disk. To which case after it fully installed it then proceeded to download the respective updates.

Hmmm. Error message. Do you remember what the error message was or at least a general idea of what it said? But, yup. The way you described it has been the same way my retail Steam games have been. So this thing with Skyrim sounds new to me.

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#137 Miroku32
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Seriously I think this is a BS myth. How the hell wouldn't he notice that the disk is empty after trying a lot of stuff to get it installed? I know some stores are know for sleazy maneuvers but come on, even if true it would be noticeable.

glez13
Well, where I live PC Gaming is almost non existent so I don't know how about retail disks. I only buy my games through Steam.
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I'm guessing the TC doesn't want any help? Or was this all a ploy to stir something up against Steam?Stevo_the_gamer
I appreciate the offer, but I just swallowed my pride and let it download.You said that what my friend said was false. He's a very techy person but couldn't get it to work. Support from the store that sold it said the disk was empty :? and that you have to download via steam. Whatever, point is, this game should have been installed 5 minutes after I opened the game, like my other 200 PC games have throughout my gaming career. Not taking half a day.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]For those who have already done the same, were any of you prompted to download the Skyrim game files from Steam (aside from updates)?jun_aka_pekto

I initially received an error message, but I corrected it and, indeed, installed the game fully from the disk. To which case after it fully installed it then proceeded to download the respective updates.

Hmmm. Error message. Do you remember what the error message was or at least a general idea of what it said? But, yup. The way you described it has been the same way my retail Steam games have been. So this thing with Skyrim sounds new to me.

I screencapped it a while back. It said this.

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Just got Skyrim PC in the post today, FINALLY. Been waiting ages but things like driving lessons, $5000 home cinema projectors and etc has rendered be unable to buy video games this year, but finally I got Skyrim myself now. I open the box, ready to play the game.. but what thell???? "steam servers unable to handle this operation"????

Two hours later FINALLY Skyrim starts downloading, but it took 4 minutes before it got to 1%.

what the hell is this crap? just let me play my f***ng game!!!!!!

Lemmings go nuts for waiting for a PS3 game to install for 3-5 minutes, but jesus christ this is taking 3-5 hours.

Mozelleple112

Steam is great, steam is the future, stop complaining. Seriously, steam is not bad, and if you are a PC gamer, you know it. PSN or xbox live never and never will have great sales, discounts the way steam does them. Sure their goal is profit and etc, but at least they don't do it like vultures, they don't abuse milking the cow like so many others.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm guessing the TC doesn't want any help? Or was this all a ploy to stir something up against Steam?Mozelleple112
I appreciate the offer, but I just swallowed my pride and let it download.You said that what my friend said was false. He's a very techy person but couldn't get it to work. Support from the store that sold it said the disk was empty :? and that you have to download via steam. Whatever, point is, this game should have been installed 5 minutes after I opened the game, like my other 200 PC games have throughout my gaming career. Not taking half a day.

You can easily check if the disc is empty. Your "techie" friend should have known this. Just right click the DVD drive and go to open or explore instead of autoplay/autorun.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm guessing the TC doesn't want any help? Or was this all a ploy to stir something up against Steam?Mozelleple112
I appreciate the offer, but I just swallowed my pride and let it download.You said that what my friend said was false. He's a very techy person but couldn't get it to work. Support from the store that sold it said the disk was empty :? and that you have to download via steam. Whatever, point is, this game should have been installed 5 minutes after I opened the game, like my other 200 PC games have throughout my gaming career. Not taking half a day.

It should have worked but it didn't because you are having issues. That doesn't really sound likek the end of the world to me. There isn't anything wrong with Steam as a service because there are houndreds of thousands of people playing it right now (like me) that haven't had any issues.

Sometimes S*** happens and things don't work properly. If out of over 100 messages you can't find a solution to your problem then that probably means there is something wrong on your end.

Try uninstalling everything, including steam and then do what they suggest on the site. Sometimes you just need a clean install. try rebooting your router as well or check to see if you need to open up a port.

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#144 Philmon
Member since 2003 • 1454 Posts
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'm guessing the TC doesn't want any help? Or was this all a ploy to stir something up against Steam?Mozelleple112
I appreciate the offer, but I just swallowed my pride and let it download.You said that what my friend said was false. He's a very techy person but couldn't get it to work. Support from the store that sold it said the disk was empty :? and that you have to download via steam. Whatever, point is, this game should have been installed 5 minutes after I opened the game, like my other 200 PC games have throughout my gaming career. Not taking half a day.

I fail to see why you are blaming Steam for this. Should the blame not be laid at the feet of Bethesda? It is their game, any problems you may encounter installing the game from the disk is their fault not Steams. Yes Steam download is slow right now, but they are having a huge sale world wide right now and it is not all that surprising that the network is overtaxed. So blame Bethesda for the install issues you have and accept the fact that Steam is currently under an unusually heavy load which may result in a service which is not indicative of normal performances.
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#145 Am_Confucius
Member since 2011 • 3229 Posts

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

why is download required when you have the disc?

Am_Confucius

TC did this part wrong, so his argument is invalid.

If you have the disc in your DVD-drive when entering the code in Steam, you will be asked if you want to install it from the disc, and even if you failed to do this, you can chose to install a game from the disc at any time.

So please TC, stop spreading lies about Steam.

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#146 hensothor
Member since 2011 • 522 Posts
Worst of the best, you mean? Because there's some pretty bad services out there none of us have ever heard of! :) Regardless, I love Steam.
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#147 TheOtherTheoG
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If it's slow download speeds you're complaining about, well, you get used it. The town I live in has the 5th slowest network speeds in the entirity of the UK, so if you think you're having trouble, it takes me 7 hours to do a 10 gb download, on an alright day. The problem you seem to be having is much more the blame of Bethesda than Steam, and thus they're who you should be blaming, as opposed to taking it out on what is a genuinely brilliant service.
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#148 -Unreal-
Member since 2004 • 24650 Posts

I knew before coming in here this was going to be an anger venting post.

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#149 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts
Your own inability to install a game is not indicative of a service being bad. Do keep that in mind.
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#150 xOMGITSJASONx
Member since 2009 • 2634 Posts

Just bought The Witcher and LIMBO for $ 2.49 each. Sorry but Steam is alote of things but sucking isn't one of them.