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#1  Edited By Jakandsigz
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http://www.igameresponsibly.com/2014/01/09/michael-pachter-forecasts-titanfall-sales-and-eas-expectations-for-the-title/

My best guess is 6 – 10 million units, depending upon the game review scores. If it gets above a 90, it will likely be at the high end of that range, below an 80, at the low end


those are some very big expectations. that would put TF as the next gears or if scoring high enough, the next Halo.

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lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

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#3  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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I think the game will sell 28 million copies, on the 3 million X1 consoles. Yeah it will be that good.

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#4  Edited By Jakandsigz
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@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

Patcher get his pay check to say dumb things.

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I think the game will sell 28 million copies, on the 3 million X1 consoles. Yeah it will be that good.

Pretty sure he thinks the game will move consoles.

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#5  Edited By Floppy_Jim
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Sounds feasible.

In before

BUT PACHTER IS ALWAYS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING EVER HERP DERP PLERP

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@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

True, it doesn't. I can see it selling at least 3 million in it's first month on hype alone though. After that we'd have to wait and see. 10 million is probably unrealistic at this point. I don't know if any of the Gears games even broken the 10 million mark.

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It can score a 4 and people will still buy it. Hype for this game is insane.

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@blackace said:

@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

True, it doesn't. I can see it selling at least 3 million in it's first month on hype alone though. After that we'd have to wait and see. 10 million is probably unrealistic at this point. I don't know if any of the Gears games even broken the 10 million mark.

Not sure where the Gears comparison came from but if it's from the OP, I said it would be at gears unless it scored high enough, which given Pachters predition, would be around 9-10 million which would be Halo levels.

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#10  Edited By Sushiglutton
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So it will either sell less than 6 million or more than 10 million. If it gets above 90 it will sell at the low end, below 80 the high end.

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I won't be one of them....I despise multiplayer only games

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I think ya boy Patch is expecting the 360 userbase to be the main market for this game with sales like that

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my guess is 5 to 7. MS will give this game the Gears/Halo treatment. It will feature on the Superbowl halftime show, sweeps month tv shows and all sporting events. And you will see Xbox One at the end of every single commercial. PC gamers don't need advertising if they are interested. You're gonna have to squint to see its for the 360 as well at the tailend of the commercial. Again, MS will put the massive weight of its marketing power behind this game to sell Xbox Ones, and it will. No way it hits 10 million, and I'd set a ceiling at 7. 5 will be easy by the fall or sooner.

And if this game moves Xbox One consoles MS will lay a blank check at EA/respawn and someone somewhere in those two companies will write a number down to keep the sequel Xbox only. And that check will be signed. This game will never debut on a PS console no matter the userbase. MS has the money and if it sells like I think it will, and create the buzz and notoriety I think it will, it will be worth it to MS to just pay the money. People said part one would be on PS4. Never happened. TitanFall 2 won't either, provided it becomes what MS hopes it does.

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Sounds about right being on 3 platforms.

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#17  Edited By -Renegade
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it could but i doubt it. 6vs6 online only game ?

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#18  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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That's an easy guess. Titanfall will be a big game. Good scores will only push sales higher than they already will be.

If you don't think scores affect sales you are sorely mistaken. There's a reason publishers have become obsessed with metacritic scores.

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@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

Scores do dictate sales, especially with a new ip.

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I expect 1 to 2 million sales overall when you add all 3 consoles.

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my guess is 5 to 7. MS will give this game the Gears/Halo treatment. It will feature on the Superbowl halftime show, sweeps month tv shows and all sporting events. And you will see Xbox One at the end of every single commercial. PC gamers don't need advertising if they are interested. You're gonna have to squint to see its for the 360 as well at the tailend of the commercial. Again, MS will put the massive weight of its marketing power behind this game to sell Xbox Ones, and it will. No way it hits 10 million, and I'd set a ceiling at 7. 5 will be easy by the fall or sooner.

And if this game moves Xbox One consoles MS will lay a blank check at EA/respawn and someone somewhere in those two companies will write a number down to keep the sequel Xbox only. And that check will be signed. This game will never debut on a PS console no matter the userbase. MS has the money and if it sells like I think it will, and create the buzz and notoriety I think it will, it will be worth it to MS to just pay the money. People said part one would be on PS4. Never happened. TitanFall 2 won't either, provided it becomes what MS hopes it does.

dont u think ea will market the x360 version? they are not going to leave money on the table after developing the game. regardless the x360 version is going to sell much than x1 advertisement or not and lol at blank check titanfall aint gona do sh^t. mark my words

ps. titanfall 2 will come out for ps4, 4.2m reasons

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#23  Edited By trugs26
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Sounds about right. There are 80 million users on 360, plus the 3 or 4 million users on One. Then the PC gamers. There's a lot of people out there, so 10 mil sounds fair.

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forgot to mention my prediction. this game will sell around 5-6m total. people are over estimating the impact of a new online only game

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@speak_low said:

@Cranler said:

@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

Scores do dictate sales, especially with a new ip.

It does, and this game will be looked at especially for scores because of the attention on it. Titanfall won the most E3 awards and is a new game for the studio. So there is excitement but also uncertainty.

It doesn't mean the final Titanfall sales will fluctuate wildly just because of a score of either 9.0 or 8.5, but a good solid score will mean good sales.

But if it gets a 4.0 and 6.5 from many websites, and something is seriously flawed with the game, it will hurt the game sales a lot.

That's why Haze and Fuse bombed. When the IP is unknown, and the reviews are bad or mediocre, gamers will not care or put trust into these games.

It's pretty much guaranteed that this will get great scores. The creators of Respawn have an excellent track record when it comes to reviews. All the COD's they made average above 90 meta.

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well it's a multiplat from the COD4 devs, so not surprising

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@trugs26 said:

Sounds about right. There are 80 million users on 360, plus the 3 or 4 million users on One. Then the PC gamers. There's a lot of people out there, so 10 mil sounds fair.

Plus it's coming in March, so theirs no other big shooters being released that it has to contend with.

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Yep, the Xbox 360 has a giant userbase, and Origin will move a decent amount for the PC.

Optimistically, the Xbox One might have sold 5 million console by March, worldwide. That will add at least a few million sales for Titanfall.

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@kuu2 said:

Patcher is clueless.......

No one cares what he says good or bad.

Says the guy posting in the thread titled: "Pachter: TitanFall will sell 6-10million depending on score."

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#30  Edited By shawn30
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@shawn30 said:

my guess is 5 to 7. MS will give this game the Gears/Halo treatment. It will feature on the Superbowl halftime show, sweeps month tv shows and all sporting events. And you will see Xbox One at the end of every single commercial. PC gamers don't need advertising if they are interested. You're gonna have to squint to see its for the 360 as well at the tailend of the commercial. Again, MS will put the massive weight of its marketing power behind this game to sell Xbox Ones, and it will. No way it hits 10 million, and I'd set a ceiling at 7. 5 will be easy by the fall or sooner.

And if this game moves Xbox One consoles MS will lay a blank check at EA/respawn and someone somewhere in those two companies will write a number down to keep the sequel Xbox only. And that check will be signed. This game will never debut on a PS console no matter the userbase. MS has the money and if it sells like I think it will, and create the buzz and notoriety I think it will, it will be worth it to MS to just pay the money. People said part one would be on PS4. Never happened. TitanFall 2 won't either, provided it becomes what MS hopes it does.

dont u think ea will market the x360 version? they are not going to leave money on the table after developing the game. regardless the x360 version is going to sell much than x1 advertisement or not and lol at blank check titanfall aint gona do sh^t. mark my words

ps. titanfall 2 will come out for ps4, 4.2m reasons

MS will handle the marketing as they will ensure its huge with their own money. Titanfall will get the Halo treatment in terms of endorsements and advertising, especially during the Super Bowl. As for Titanfall 2, I stand by the claim that if the game moves Xbox One systems they will prioritize it and write the check. Don't live in fantasy land that MS can't or wont do this, or that EA/Respawn don't have a price. If the higher ups at MS deem Titanfall to be greatly important to the early and mid-gen success of the platform, they will write the necessary check. Do you see Gears on any PS system? No. Epic owns it, so why not since there's 80 million PS3's? MS money. It worked then, it'll work here. But only if Titanfall is a absolute monster.

4.2 million systems sold is awesome. 3 million is less awesome, but still awesome. Sony being in dire financial trouble isn't awesome. MS being worth 200 billion is.

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#31  Edited By iwasgood2u
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It will score either an 8.0 or 7.5 due to no campaign and is only 6vs6 + ai + 60$ +720p .

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@shawn30 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@shawn30 said:

my guess is 5 to 7. MS will give this game the Gears/Halo treatment. It will feature on the Superbowl halftime show, sweeps month tv shows and all sporting events. And you will see Xbox One at the end of every single commercial. PC gamers don't need advertising if they are interested. You're gonna have to squint to see its for the 360 as well at the tailend of the commercial. Again, MS will put the massive weight of its marketing power behind this game to sell Xbox Ones, and it will. No way it hits 10 million, and I'd set a ceiling at 7. 5 will be easy by the fall or sooner.

And if this game moves Xbox One consoles MS will lay a blank check at EA/respawn and someone somewhere in those two companies will write a number down to keep the sequel Xbox only. And that check will be signed. This game will never debut on a PS console no matter the userbase. MS has the money and if it sells like I think it will, and create the buzz and notoriety I think it will, it will be worth it to MS to just pay the money. People said part one would be on PS4. Never happened. TitanFall 2 won't either, provided it becomes what MS hopes it does.

dont u think ea will market the x360 version? they are not going to leave money on the table after developing the game. regardless the x360 version is going to sell much than x1 advertisement or not and lol at blank check titanfall aint gona do sh^t. mark my words

ps. titanfall 2 will come out for ps4, 4.2m reasons

4.2 million systems sold is awesome. 3 million is less awesome, but still awesome. Sony being in dire financial trouble isn't awesome. MS being worth 200 billion is.t

The value of Sony's stock has no bearing on the console wars as Microsoft has already been beaten despite the war chest. It also has no bearing on creating great games as Sony routinely outshines Microsoft moneyhatting with its own first party studios. Maybe when Microsoft stops trying to brute force their way to success they will finally have market leading electronic device....haha that will never happen in our lifetimes.

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@shawn30 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@shawn30 said:

my guess is 5 to 7. MS will give this game the Gears/Halo treatment. It will feature on the Superbowl halftime show, sweeps month tv shows and all sporting events. And you will see Xbox One at the end of every single commercial. PC gamers don't need advertising if they are interested. You're gonna have to squint to see its for the 360 as well at the tailend of the commercial. Again, MS will put the massive weight of its marketing power behind this game to sell Xbox Ones, and it will. No way it hits 10 million, and I'd set a ceiling at 7. 5 will be easy by the fall or sooner.

And if this game moves Xbox One consoles MS will lay a blank check at EA/respawn and someone somewhere in those two companies will write a number down to keep the sequel Xbox only. And that check will be signed. This game will never debut on a PS console no matter the userbase. MS has the money and if it sells like I think it will, and create the buzz and notoriety I think it will, it will be worth it to MS to just pay the money. People said part one would be on PS4. Never happened. TitanFall 2 won't either, provided it becomes what MS hopes it does.

dont u think ea will market the x360 version? they are not going to leave money on the table after developing the game. regardless the x360 version is going to sell much than x1 advertisement or not and lol at blank check titanfall aint gona do sh^t. mark my words

ps. titanfall 2 will come out for ps4, 4.2m reasons

MS will handle the marketing as they will ensure its huge with their own money. Titanfall will get the Halo treatment in terms of endorsements and advertising, especially during the Super Bowl. As for Titanfall 2, I stand by the claim that if the game moves Xbox One systems they will prioritize it and write the check. Don't live in fantasy land that MS can't or wont do this, or that EA/Respawn don't have a price. If the higher ups at MS deem Titanfall to be greatly important to the early and mid-gen success of the platform, they will write the necessary check. Do you see Gears on any PS system? No. Epic owns it, so why not since there's 80 million PS3's? MS money. It worked then, it'll work here. But only if Titanfall is a absolute monster.

4.2 million systems sold is awesome. 3 million is less awesome, but still awesome. Sony being in dire financial trouble isn't awesome. MS being worth 200 billion is.

m$ will promote the x1 version, ea will handle the x360 version. halo is an established franchise, no way will titanfall come close to selling that amount on x1. titanfall is a new ip that is online only, what % of xbox owners have xbl? last i checked it was around 40%. it will move a few consoles but its not going to be the messiah lems think it is. if m$ could buy out titanfall why didnt they have it release just on x1? its ea. no way titanfall 2 doesnt come out on sony consoles

this is m$ 3rd damn consoles and xbox division has been nothing but loses from them. they aint goin do sh*t

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@Couth_ said:

I think ya boy Patch is expecting the 360 userbase to be the main market for this game with sales like that

Yeah, I'm sure. It will definitely sell more copies on the XBox 360. His Patcher sales number is all platforms combined I'm sure.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@shawn30 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@shawn30 said:

my guess is 5 to 7. MS will give this game the Gears/Halo treatment. It will feature on the Superbowl halftime show, sweeps month tv shows and all sporting events. And you will see Xbox One at the end of every single commercial. PC gamers don't need advertising if they are interested. You're gonna have to squint to see its for the 360 as well at the tailend of the commercial. Again, MS will put the massive weight of its marketing power behind this game to sell Xbox Ones, and it will. No way it hits 10 million, and I'd set a ceiling at 7. 5 will be easy by the fall or sooner.

And if this game moves Xbox One consoles MS will lay a blank check at EA/respawn and someone somewhere in those two companies will write a number down to keep the sequel Xbox only. And that check will be signed. This game will never debut on a PS console no matter the userbase. MS has the money and if it sells like I think it will, and create the buzz and notoriety I think it will, it will be worth it to MS to just pay the money. People said part one would be on PS4. Never happened. TitanFall 2 won't either, provided it becomes what MS hopes it does.

dont u think ea will market the x360 version? they are not going to leave money on the table after developing the game. regardless the x360 version is going to sell much than x1 advertisement or not and lol at blank check titanfall aint gona do sh^t. mark my words

ps. titanfall 2 will come out for ps4, 4.2m reasons

4.2 million systems sold is awesome. 3 million is less awesome, but still awesome. Sony being in dire financial trouble isn't awesome. MS being worth 200 billion is.t

The value of Sony's stock has no bearing on the console wars as Microsoft has already been beaten despite the war chest. It also has no bearing on creating great games as Sony routinely outshines Microsoft moneyhatting with its own first party studios. Maybe when Microsoft stops trying to brute force their way to success they will finally have market leading electronic device....haha that will never happen in our lifetimes.

The value of Sony's stock and its corporation wide financial issues do have a bearing on console wars if it takes an even deeper turn for the worse as this year progresses. The 360 outsold the PS3 by the time the One was released, hence winning the HD wars of last gen. Game quality is in the eyes of the beholder, but only Uncharted, TLOU, and God of War ever caught my eye as I do feel MS has better games that fit my tastes. Brute force is how business works man. How do you think MS got to be worth 200 billion? How do you think Sony got in the shape they are in?

Enjoy Sony and its PS systems as they are great products. But don't live in the fantasy land that their financial situation isn't cause for concern, or at the very least keeping an eye on.

To close, I believe TitanFall sill sell between 5 and 7 million and never see the light of day on a PS console. We shall see who's right in a year, lol.

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#36  Edited By killatwill15
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it wont break 4 million,

but hell,

even then 4 million is nothing to balk at,

now titanfall 2, 15 mill easy

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@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

Seriously, why is there a thread every time this guy says something ?

This game will sell between 0 - 100 million copies depending on score. There, am I as good as making predictions like he is now ?

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@kuu2 said:

Patcher is clueless.......

No one cares what he says good or bad.

He's probably right though, it will sell a lot.

If he manages to be right this time, I might buy him a cookie.

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#39  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@shawn30 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@shawn30 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@shawn30 said:

my guess is 5 to 7. MS will give this game the Gears/Halo treatment. It will feature on the Superbowl halftime show, sweeps month tv shows and all sporting events. And you will see Xbox One at the end of every single commercial. PC gamers don't need advertising if they are interested. You're gonna have to squint to see its for the 360 as well at the tailend of the commercial. Again, MS will put the massive weight of its marketing power behind this game to sell Xbox Ones, and it will. No way it hits 10 million, and I'd set a ceiling at 7. 5 will be easy by the fall or sooner.

And if this game moves Xbox One consoles MS will lay a blank check at EA/respawn and someone somewhere in those two companies will write a number down to keep the sequel Xbox only. And that check will be signed. This game will never debut on a PS console no matter the userbase. MS has the money and if it sells like I think it will, and create the buzz and notoriety I think it will, it will be worth it to MS to just pay the money. People said part one would be on PS4. Never happened. TitanFall 2 won't either, provided it becomes what MS hopes it does.

dont u think ea will market the x360 version? they are not going to leave money on the table after developing the game. regardless the x360 version is going to sell much than x1 advertisement or not and lol at blank check titanfall aint gona do sh^t. mark my words

ps. titanfall 2 will come out for ps4, 4.2m reasons

4.2 million systems sold is awesome. 3 million is less awesome, but still awesome. Sony being in dire financial trouble isn't awesome. MS being worth 200 billion is.t

The value of Sony's stock has no bearing on the console wars as Microsoft has already been beaten despite the war chest. It also has no bearing on creating great games as Sony routinely outshines Microsoft moneyhatting with its own first party studios. Maybe when Microsoft stops trying to brute force their way to success they will finally have market leading electronic device....haha that will never happen in our lifetimes.

The value of Sony's stock and its corporation wide financial issues do have a bearing on console wars if it takes an even deeper turn for the worse as this year progresses. The 360 outsold the PS3 by the time the One was released, hence winning the HD wars of last gen. Game quality is in the eyes of the beholder, but only Uncharted, TLOU, and God of War ever caught my eye as I do feel MS has better games that fit my tastes. Brute force is how business works man. How do you think MS got to be worth 200 billion? How do you think Sony got in the shape they are in?

Enjoy Sony and its PS systems as they are great products. But don't live in the fantasy land that their financial situation isn't cause for concern, or at the very least keeping an eye on.

To close, I believe TitanFall sill sell between 5 and 7 million and never see the light of day on a PS console. We shall see who's right in a year, lol.

You still haven't explain how Sony's financial situation relative to Microsoft has or will hurt them with PS4. If things take a turn for worst it won't be PlayStation 4 that will sacrificed, it will some other division dumped/contracted or sold off. Sony is all in PS4 if you haven't noticed. As for Titanfall I don't care. Never bought COD so why I want this spin-off.

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#40  Edited By biggest_loser
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Its a worry if game writing can have that sort of influence on sales.

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#41 StrongBlackVine
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@biggest_loser said:

Its a worry if game writing can have that sort of influence on sales.

I use reviews for games I'm not completely sold on.

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#42 biggest_loser
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@biggest_loser said:

Its a worry if game writing can have that sort of influence on sales.

I use reviews for games I'm not completely sold on.

That's fine. I'm more concerned about developers pressing sites like IGN to continue to increase the amount of hyperbole in their reviews to boost sales.

"We need to sell this many units! Give us 9s and we'll let you play the game before anyone else."

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#43 Gargus
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People actually pay attention to that fucking moron still? All he does I make guesses, and more often than not he is wrong. When he is wrong he never mentions it again, but when he is right he will bring that shit up a dozen times. I can do that, just sit and throw out random guesses and numbers and Ill be right a certain percentage.

I guess he still has a certain crowd that likes him because "Hey its an old guy with a tie who plays games! He is awesome!"

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#44 silversix_
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How fking accurate... let me try, it'll sell between 100k and 25 million. Am i close?

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#45  Edited By Shielder7
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@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

This Pachter is wrong more than right and if scores dictate sales than Bayonetta should be one of the best selling games of all time but it's not.

Truth is titanfall is a new IP with no fan base made by EA.

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#46 Shielder7
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@blackace said:

@MonsieurX said:

lol Pacther

And scores doesn't dictate sales

True, it doesn't. I can see it selling at least 3 million in it's first month on hype alone though. After that we'd have to wait and see. 10 million is probably unrealistic at this point. I don't know if any of the Gears games even broken the 10 million mark.

Outside of Lemming hype on forums like these I don't hear much about titanfall I can see it flying under a lot of peoples radar.

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Titanfall doomed by Pachter, what an ignominious end.

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#48 pc-ps360
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how the hell will it sell 6-10 million and the xbone total sales are 3mil. and not every xbone owner will buy the game

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#49  Edited By hippiesanta
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FPS games are like RnB/HipHop music ....... you don't like it but you have to play it