Paramount's Switch Failed To Turn Market

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#51 Hewkii
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I've been all over the world and I've never experienced internet faster than what I got in New York.

Blue-Sky

personally, I haven't noticed a difference either. but supposedly the download speeds are faster in Asia.

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#52 Supafly1
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Do they also include PS3 sales?
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#53 aka_aj03
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Do they also include PS3 sales?Supafly1
I believe is PS3 is one of the factor for high bluray sale.
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#54 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Both BR and HD-DVD is failing, so why should anyone care which one beats the other.

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Yeah except for the fact that BR is not failing.

HD-DVD VS BR is like Xbox VS Gamecube. Sure they are not "failures" on their own merits, but they have a long way to go.

SW is so absorbed within BR VS HD-DVD, even masking it as a SONY vs MS debate, That they've completely forgot the challenge of a new format is the battle for the next physical media standard.Defeating Hd-DVD won't accomplish this goal and right now, DVD is showing no signs of slowing down....

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#55 -Sniper99-
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I bet Paramount is kicking themselves right now
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#56 Blue-Sky
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I bet Paramount is kicking themselves right now-Sniper99-

Yeah because Movie studios are making so much money of BR :roll:

Both formats are like 1% of DVD sales, If I was paramount, I would of gladly took the money Toshiba was offering, because I wouldn't lose anythingeither way

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#57 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="penguino726"][QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="Crusher89"]most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvpenguino726



I don't understand this logic. Here in Japan, close to 70% has HDTVs and it's government law here to have 100% HD signals by 2009. I know America has the same law. I also know America has really slow internet. Asia and Europe has fiber-optics as the standard. How can digital HD downloads beat a physical medium in America when most Americans can't even download the files? You still need a HD setup to run it, so you're going to be paying the money for TV and sound system.

how do you know america has slow internet? you realize in america your free to have whatever internet you like, slow fast medium, whatever. I dont know if internet in government mandated in japan or something, but its just foolish to make general claims about a global service ( invented by the U.S government mind you) regareding the internet speed of users in a country where nearly everyone has internet and I would say 80 to 90% decently fast internet. I just dont understand how the internet of all things can be slow in one country and fast in another.... your logic is confusing:|

too bad there was an international study and even canada has faster internet on adverage, sure people can choose to have a t1 network, but its likely only rich people or buisnesses will afford it, every where else there is cheap AND fast internet, i am american and i support this message: dont let your blind patriotism blind your intelligence

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#58 hyperboy152000
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sry to double post, trying to edit my last post is messing up but http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2007-06-25-net-speeds_N.htm its actually a study conducted by the Communications Workers of America so tech. its not an international study but it still proves my point
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#59 Bromz
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Who actually gives a crap about format wars. Digital Downloads will pwn them both in a few years anyway.
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#60 lettuceman44
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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.kaos-hero



Didn't you read what I said? HD-DVD is dead here in Japan. There are no players for sale and Japan sure as hell won't switch formats because it's not working out in the Americas. How can HD-DVD win without the capital market in Asia?

How can Blu-ray win without north america? Nevertheless, I suspect warner will support Blu-Ray.



Yes, we all know Americans are MUCH more advance than Japan in terms of HD content. Sorry, only over 70% of the popluation here owns HDTVs and it's government law to have 100% HD channels by 2009. Also, almost every house as fiber-optics for internet, over 30mb/s (standard), etc...

...yes, America is key for the current HD war because they are so far ahead in terms of HD technology. I'm sorry, didn't the CA dollar beat out the US dollar for the past 2 months?

Why do you feel the need to be anti-american? Why do you bring up the U.S dollar which has no relevance to this topic? By the way, you know a weaker dollar isn't all bad.
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#61 lettuceman44
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Who actually gives a crap about format wars. Digital Downloads will pwn them both in a few years anyway. Bromz
I don't give a crap about digital. I want my hard copy.
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#62 jessie5788
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[QUOTE="penguino726"][QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="Crusher89"]most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvpenguino726



I don't understand this logic. Here in Japan, close to 70% has HDTVs and it's government law here to have 100% HD signals by 2009. I know America has the same law. I also know America has really slow internet. Asia and Europe has fiber-optics as the standard. How can digital HD downloads beat a physical medium in America when most Americans can't even download the files? You still need a HD setup to run it, so you're going to be paying the money for TV and sound system.

how do you know america has slow internet? you realize in america your free to have whatever internet you like, slow fast medium, whatever. I dont know if internet in government mandated in japan or something, but its just foolish to make general claims about a global service ( invented by the U.S government mind you) regareding the internet speed of users in a country where nearly everyone has internet and I would say 80 to 90% decently fast internet. I just dont understand how the internet of all things can be slow in one country and fast in another.... your logic is confusing:|

he's saying america hasn't shifted to a faster internet as a whole. and he's been right what he's been saying.

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#63 Crusher89
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[QUOTE="Bromz"]Who actually gives a crap about format wars. Digital Downloads will pwn them both in a few years anyway. lettuceman44
I don't give a crap about digital. I want my hard copy.

since must computers come with a dvd burner today that shouldn't be a problem then

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#64 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"]Do they also include PS3 sales?aka_aj03
I believe is PS3 is one of the factor for high bluray sale.

I wonder how the format war would've turned out if HD-DVD was a standard feature for X-box 360.

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#65 jessie5788
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[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.lettuceman44



Didn't you read what I said? HD-DVD is dead here in Japan. There are no players for sale and Japan sure as hell won't switch formats because it's not working out in the Americas. How can HD-DVD win without the capital market in Asia?

How can Blu-ray win without north america? Nevertheless, I suspect warner will support Blu-Ray.



Yes, we all know Americans are MUCH more advance than Japan in terms of HD content. Sorry, only over 70% of the popluation here owns HDTVs and it's government law to have 100% HD channels by 2009. Also, almost every house as fiber-optics for internet, over 30mb/s (standard), etc...

...yes, America is key for the current HD war because they are so far ahead in terms of HD technology. I'm sorry, didn't the CA dollar beat out the US dollar for the past 2 months?

Why do you feel the need to be anti-american? Why do you bring up the U.S dollar which has no relevance to this topic? By the way, you know a weaker dollar isn't all bad.

the guy not anti-america. if he was he would be talking crap about america. everything he says he says has been true. going to japan is like stepping into the future. everyone knows this.

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#66 BigGimp77
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I kno that HD dvd sales aren't enormous. But I think there are a good bit of people out there that are waiting for the war to end before making a purchase.

For instance, we were gonna get my dad a BR player but we decided to hold off.

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#67 zeldarooles
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I thought this was System Wars, not Format Wars.
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#68 TREAL_Since
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I love BluRay. I'm such a movie buff :D. I'm glad to see the format I chose winning. One of the main reasons I don't like HDDVD is the color (outside of the great BR studio support). Blue is a beautiful color :P.

Sucks for people who purchased the HDDVD add-on. Things are looking very grim right now.

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#70 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="Bromz"]Who actually gives a crap about format wars. Digital Downloads will pwn them both in a few years anyway. lettuceman44
I don't give a crap about digital. I want my hard copy.

Having a hard copy is almost a must for me. But it's almost inevitable that digital downloads will become big in the future. I highly doubt it will overcome hard copies anytime soon.

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#71 kentaro22
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[QUOTE="Bromz"]Who actually gives a crap about format wars. Digital Downloads will pwn them both in a few years anyway. lettuceman44
I don't give a crap about digital. I want my hard copy.

While digital downloads will gain terrain as time passes, there will always be a physical disc (or whatever). We have already Digital downloads like itunes, but still people buy music disks. I don't see HD movie download service that will rival a physical medium till when speeds gets AT LEAST 60mb/s at $25 USD or less a month in the all the big three areas (US, EU, JP). So I say 2013. BTW I live in a third world country (Colombia) and the MAX speed here is 4mb/s ($300 USD/ month). I have 256k for $30/ month.
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#72 trizzle_a
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Since PS3 owners aren't buying games they are probably not buying movies or even HD tvs eitherGeek_Speak101

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