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#51 dakan45
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:( Its dissapointing that the amount and quality of mods is dropping in the last 3 years.... there was a time that there were amazing mods like half life mods but now? I might as well skip the whole thing.
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#52 SPYDER0416
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All those arguments about PC owners never starting the graphical comparisons seems to flush down the toilet whenver these pro-PC graphics threads come up.

Still, I do love mods.

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#53 Valiant_Rebel
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:( Its dissapointing that the amount and quality of mods is dropping in the last 3 years.... there was a time that there were amazing mods like half life mods but now? I might as well skip the whole thing.dakan45

You shouldn't fell disappointed or offended(not assuming you are either). Almost every mod requires lots of time and devotion to work properly. You may not like it now, but the quality of mods you are used to could return in a few years.

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#54 Cherokee_Jack
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All those arguments about PC owners never starting the graphical comparisons seems to flush down the toilet whenver these pro-PC graphics threads come up.

Still, I do love mods.

SPYDER0416
I'm not seeing how this is a graphics thread.
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#55 washd123
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All those arguments about PC owners never starting the graphical comparisons seems to flush down the toilet whenver these pro-PC graphics threads come up.

Still, I do love mods.

SPYDER0416

wait what? this isnt a thread about graphics.

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#56 glez13
Member since 2006 • 10314 Posts

It's always nice seeing some consolites say "lol mods r all crap made by amateurs" when they're the first to fawn over any console game's "user-generated content".Cherokee_Jack

I'm gonna go with this. LBP a platformer with arguably mediocre platforming is one of the best games this gen basically because of this, but oh noes! When you are talking about the PC doing something similar or superior, it sucks.:(

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#57 Puckhog04
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PC gaming owns in every way. Always has, always will.

Here's another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZAaKH0FYO8

:) I'm sure most have seen it. It's just too ****c to really forget though.

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#58 RyuRanVII
Member since 2006 • 4257 Posts

Check out those Doom 3 mods:

Thief: The Dark Mod

http://www.thedarkmod.com/

thief

Hexen III: Edge of Chaos

http://www.hexenmod.com/

hexen3

And this one for Freespace 2:

Star Fox: Shadows of Lylat

http://www.shadowsoflylat.net/

shadows

Planescape Trilogy: Purgatorio

http://www.roguedao.com/purgatorio/For Neverwinter Nights 2

planescape

Ultima V: Lazarus

A complete remake of Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny (1985)for Dungeon Siege (highly recomended!)

http://www.u5lazarus.com/

Ultima V

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#59 skrat_01
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There are much better mods you could have listed TC tbh. Anyway some of those are pretty interesting. Personally I still can't wait for Black Mesa Source.
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#60 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]:( Its dissapointing that the amount and quality of mods is dropping in the last 3 years.... there was a time that there were amazing mods like half life mods but now? I might as well skip the whole thing.

Pity. You are really missing out.
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#61 Riotr
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These titles sound like badly named porno movies. Seriously read them again.
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#62 TheDuffman26
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Black mesa source is a joke. That mod has been in production for so long that I'm surprised it hasn't been swept under the rug yet. PC gaming has been in a drought for the last year and a half or so. 2010 doesn't look to be anything special either with the exception of Alien vs. Predator and Starcraft 2 (which isn't my kind of game anyway). All this powerful hardware and no games take advantage it... that's the state of PC gaming right now.
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#63 naval
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Didn't the TC knows all mods are crap and lame unless they come to consoles :P Seriously speaking, Mods do have a lot uses :- * sometimes they are better in some ways than the original game (like Fall from Heaven 2 is better than Civilization 4 in many ways and Civilizatio n4 itself got a 9.3 something here, so how could any one who like 4X games pass it up just because it is a mod ? ) * they improve the aspects of the original mod (I remember Equilibrius mod of HoMM IV which greatly balanced all the races and made the game much more fun ) * they give you a taste of game which you liked but didn't had a chance to play something similar again (like Nameless Mod for Deus Ex, the thief mods etc) * those which enhance the original experience by minor amounts by minor amounts like graphics, UI tweaks etc * they allow you to play the game as you want and not as the "developer intends you too". A developer makes a game level design decision based on all the audience and based on the fact it wil appeal to a wider audience. These changes may or may not appeal to you , so you can use mods , if there, to play game as you want and not as the "developer wants" (like the level scaling removal mods for Oblivion) etc .. etc ...
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#64 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

Mods are a huge benefit. Not only do they make mediocre games great (and great games even better), they can add virtually limitless replay value. I've gone through Fallout 3, Oblivion, The Witcher, STALKER, Crysis, etc., done everything there was to do, and mods keep me coming back for more. While a game like Oblivion or Dragon Age may get boring on consoles, it'll keep being updated on PC with both enhancements and content until a sequel is released, keeping it ahead of many newer titles.

I would post screens, but that doesn't show the sheer depth some of these mods allow you to have in gameplay.

Here's another- Mechwarrior: Living Legends (finally a real Mechwarrior game; currently only multiplayer is planned, total conversion mod for Crysis).



Actually that along with Dino crysis are my most anticipated mods

they are making a new mechwarrior, so if this has any material from that or similarities, i'm sure lawsuits will be flying out, it happend with an avp mod for a game ( can't remember which game)
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#65 naval
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Black mesa source is a joke. That mod has been in production for so long that I'm surprised it hasn't been swept under the rug yet. PC gaming has been in a drought for the last year and a half or so. 2010 doesn't look to be anything special either with the exception of Alien vs. Predator and Starcraft 2 (which isn't my kind of game anyway). All this powerful hardware and no games take advantage it... that's the state of PC gaming right now.TheDuffman26
yes, true if drought means getting the maximum amount of 8+ exclusives

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#66 savagetwinkie
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Didn't the TC knows all mods are crap and lame unless they come to consoles :P Seriously speaking, Mods do have a lot uses :- * sometimes they are better in some ways than the original game (like Fall from Heaven 2 is better than Civilization 4 in many ways and Civilizatio n4 itself got a 9.3 something here, so how could any one who like 4X games pass it up just because it is a mod ? ) * they improve the aspects of the original mod (I remember Equilibrius mod of HoMM IV which greatly balanced all the races and made the game much more fun ) * they give you a taste of game which you liked but didn't had a chance to play something similar again (like Nameless Mod for Deus Ex, the thief mods etc) * those which enhance the original experience by minor amounts by minor amounts like graphics, UI tweaks etc * they allow you to play the game as you want and not as the "developer intends you too". A developer makes a game level design decision based on all the audience and based on the fact it wil appeal to a wider audience. These changes may or may not appeal to you , so you can use mods , if there, to play game as you want and not as the "developer wants" (like the level scaling removal mods for Oblivion) etc .. etc ...naval
*most of the time they are buggy and break the game, incomplete, or just model changes that have no real effect on anything. The only things through most of my years as a pc gamer i have liked are community map packs, but very rarely did a real good mod or TC ever came out that did other then change a few things so some stuff looked cooler. Or maybe tweaked a few settings to help balance stuff.
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#67 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] they are making a new mechwarrior, so if this has any material from that or similarities, i'm sure lawsuits will be flying out, it happend with an avp mod for a game ( can't remember which game)

Happened with an Aliens game for Doom, or Doom 2. Well over a decade ago...
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#68 skrat_01
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*most of the time they are buggy and break the game, incomplete, or just model changes that have no real effect on anything. The only things through most of my years as a pc gamer i have liked are community map packs, but very rarely did a real good mod or TC ever came out that did other then change a few things so some stuff looked cooler. Or maybe tweaked a few settings to help balance stuff.savagetwinkie
Pity you have been missing out too. Some brilliant total conversions and additions out there. Many of which are overlooked, and there have been some stunning releases this year.
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#69 bionicle_lover
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I've become mainly a pc gamer now and frankly, i download few mods and get bored of them fast (after enjoying their greatness for a little).... but they still last me just as long as most of the console games i buy XD... hell, the only game that can hold my attention is tf2 ( awesome multi) and nba 2k10 (so many teambuiding possiblities from something real i find interesting). everything else is fun, but i can never find the will to finish them *guess im not a singleplayer kind of guy.
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Black mesa source is a joke. That mod has been in production for so long that I'm surprised it hasn't been swept under the rug yet. PC gaming has been in a drought for the last year and a half or so. 2010 doesn't look to be anything special either with the exception of Alien vs. Predator and Starcraft 2 (which isn't my kind of game anyway). All this powerful hardware and no games take advantage it... that's the state of PC gaming right now.TheDuffman26

Plenty of games take advantage of the more powerful hardware, hence things like superior multiplats running at higher resolutions, with better framerates.

We have just had no Crysis calibre hardware stressing games. Which isn't a big deal, considering the fact there have been plenty of games on PC released in the last year, amongst it's exclusives.

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#71 Vesica_Prime
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No mention of The Nameless Mod for Deus Ex in a mod thread?!

  • An imaginative new setting unlike any game you've played before (yet very familiar to any netizen).
  • 59 levels of gameplay plus a new training mission, 6 intro and endgame cinematics, and three secret bonus maps!
  • 20 original new weapons, many of which are unique and may only be acquired once through the game.
  • Several unique pre-modded versions of original Deus Ex weaponry to be stolen from particular characters upon defeating them.
  • The ability to fight with your bare hands, or to make use of several different gloves to augment your furious blows.
  • A weapon shop where you can buy original DX weapons, equipment, and ammunition.
  • Hundreds of emails, books, newspapers, notepads, and datacubes.
  • Multipage info-devices allow for many pages per book or datacube for the really inquisitive player.
  • Over 100 entirely new character skins and many more combinations of old skins!
  • Actual nanoaugmented enemies. You can view their augmentations with the Targetting aug and disable them with EMP attacks.
  • More customization: Choose between two different character models, 5 different faces for each, and eyewear!
  • A ton of new decorations and items.
  • Two parallel story arcs, that branch early in the game, and plenty of side-missions.
  • An almost ridiculously responsive story with a detailed denouement at the end.
  • Choice and consequence: Major characters will remember if you knock them out.
  • A script of 200,000 words of dialogue, monologue, infolink messages, and AI barks.
  • More than 13,000 fully recorded lines of very high quality.
  • Eye-pleasing graphical detail with HDTP support!
  • New high-quality ogg music for every level (over 100 tracks!).
  • A myriad of secrets, easter eggs, and little details to encourage replaying.
  • Goals will be updated as you progress through the missions.
  • Greater implementation of difficulty levels: Enemies and pickups will depend on your chosen difficulty.

I know its an old game but it takes more than 10 hours to complete just one story line in it!

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#72 bionicle_lover
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you know, now that i think about it, the biggest annoyance about mods is that

a) there are so many, that it is quite hard to sort through so much, especially when their creators make each of them sound so awesome

b) little mods that make you apply each one XP but can work simultaneously... gar

c) sometimes, the directions on which directories to copy files into are a little vague... hard for someone like me that has only applied mods to like 5 games.


EDIT: and by mods, i also mean skins, textrues bla bla bla along with full conversions though full conversions from my experience are usually easier cause they install themselves :D

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#73 naval
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] *most of the time they are buggy and break the game, incomplete, or just model changes that have no real effect on anything. The only things through most of my years as a pc gamer i have liked are community map packs, but very rarely did a real good mod or TC ever came out that did other then change a few things so some stuff looked cooler. Or maybe tweaked a few settings to help balance stuff.

So ? Is anybody forcing you to install the buggy, incomplete ones ? there are many many mods which are not buggy, broken or incomplete and add a good amount of content -- here is an idea, why not install one of those (it takes not more than 5 minutes to find out which are those). Ok now taking fall from heaven 2 as an example --- is it buggy ? is it incomplete ? Is it broken ? Does it add minimal content ?
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#74 linkthewindow
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b) little mods that make you apply each one XP but can work simultaneously... garbionicle_lover
It''s usually not too hard to merge files involved. I've done it quite a few times with Stalker mods.
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#75 Vesica_Prime
Member since 2009 • 7062 Posts

Also this is on a 2004 engine (Half Life 2)

Half Life 2 Cinematic Mod is crazy.df

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#76 hypoty
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Lost World Returns mod for Crysis is also looking pretty good, even though it's a while off.

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#77 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]*yawn*sikanderahmed

agreed

Next time I read "PC gamers are arrogant" I'm going to crawl into the corner, curl up in a ball, and cry myself to sleep. This is really horrible, I don't know how someone could say this, honestly, looking at the OP. None of this stuff is worth your scorn, it's legitimate hard work and it's legitimate entertainment that increases the replay value of the product substantially.
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#78 ducati101
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

*yawn*TheOwnerOner

agreed

Next time I read "PC gamers are arrogant" I'm going to crawl into the corner, curl up in a ball, and cry myself to sleep. This is really horrible, I don't know how someone could say this, honestly, looking at the OP. None of this stuff is worth your scorn, it's legitimate hard work and it's legitimate entertainment that increases the replay value of the product substantially.

Its just jealousy, plain and simple. These modders do these wonderfull things, in their own time and for no money. What could be negative about it? I guess its better to release 4 maps and charge for it!
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#79 Wartzay
Member since 2006 • 2036 Posts

Here's a few more awesome mods.

Project Reality for Battlefield 2

Official Site

Media

Download

Europa Barbarorum for Rome: Total War

Official Site

Media

Download

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#80 AAllxxjjnn
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I don't really use mods much, but the few i've downloaded have been great. Looking forward to Black Mesa. :]
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#81 Postal_Guy
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I want Dino D-day!

now!

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#82 NielsNL
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I thought the biggest advantage of being a pc gamer was that you get to act all superior here on the SW board and most people will just accept it...

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#83 medicine_freak
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Completely free standalone game mods for freespace 2 you should look out for if you are a BSG fan:


Diaspora:

Beyond the Red Line: (Demo out for two years)

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#84 adamosmaki
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Completely free standalone game mods for freespace 2 you should look out for if you are a BSG fan:

Diaspora:

Beyond the Red Line: (Demo out for two years)

medicine_freak

I have played red line mod to the death and i like it more than the original game Also about diaspora mod didnt knew about that but after checking out it does look amazing ( actually reinstalling Frespace 2 again now )

Also about some console users that say most mods are crap and worthless guess what there is a site called MODDB where there is a a rating and reviews for each mod so that you dont download the "crappy" ones ( but i guess they will find a way to make something free and often great like mods a negative think yet paying $10 for 4maps is better than having lets say 800maps available for free for a game like crysis over at crymod )

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#85 badtaker
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="3sFan"]

There is no need to have mods unless the game is bad or short. Like the games mentioned above.

3sFan

Sureee? while DLC that you paid is good BTW those games are AAA and game of the year, shooter of the year and RTS of the year

NFS: Shift has no chance against Gran Turismo 5. Black Mesa isn't coming out for a while. Crysis is overrated. That RTS has no chance against Starcraft 2. And theres no point buying games that will be receiving DLC anytime soon as you can just wait for the GOTY editions. Gears 2, Oblivion, Fallout 3, etc.

that is not NFS:Shift.

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#86 hypoty
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The Dear Esther update is looking fantastic!

The original mod is more of an interactive narrative than a game, truly a work of art. It's being redone by a former DICE employee. I can hardly wait for the end result.

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#87 KingNabster
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Soulja Boy doesn't play PC, he plays consoles. Something to think about.

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#88 organic_machine
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Soulja Boy doesn't play PC, he plays consoles. Something to think about.

KingNabster

Soulja Boy, you say?

*smashes PC to bits*

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#89 AdrianWerner
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:( Its dissapointing that the amount and quality of mods is dropping in the last 3 years.... there was a time that there were amazing mods like half life mods but now? I might as well skip the whole thing.dakan45
You seriously are out of touch with modding scene, aren't you? The last 3 years have been the best mod scene ever had

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#90 Vesica_Prime
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Soulja Boy doesn't play PC, he plays consoles. Something to think about.

KingNabster

And Soulja Boy chickened out from a challenge he set on the internet which was accepted by Screwattack. COOL KID AMIRITE.

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#91 skrat_01
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The Dear Esther update is looking fantastic!

The original mod is more of an interactive narrative than a game, truly a work of art. It's being redone by a former DICE employee. I can hardly wait for the end result.

hypoty

MEIN GOTT.

*thankyou* for bringing this update to my attention.

Dear Esther was amazing, but this is spectacular.

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#92 XturnalS
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Yeah mods are pretty damn great. I'd say the best ones are mods that fix games and make them more enjoyable in their original form than those that add new content or features.

STALKER becomes not just a great game but a FREAKIN amazing game with OL 2.2. Mods are good.

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#93 BloodSeeker1337
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Too bad Consoles can't have Mods because Consoles are much inferior to PC :roll:
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#94 k0r3aN_pR1d3
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Biggest advantage of PC?

Consoles are toys :roll:

As a young adult, I would find it embarrassing for a young adult to continue to play console games when you can go out and socialize, party, work, buy new gadgets, have family time, etc etc.

Much easier for me to pass off playing some casual games on my laptop on a layover flight than playing call of duty cooped up at home.