PC Can't lose! Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 Rumored 70% faster Than RTX 4090.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 Rumored 70% faster Than RTX 4090 (forbes.com)

This year looks set to see high profile PC gaming hardware launches from AMD, Intel and Nvidia and the latter having completed itsRTX 4000-series refresh of Super models, will be looking forward to the RTX 5000 Series and YouTube channelMoore's Law is Deadsuggests a new flagship GeForce RTX 5090 could be up to 70 percent faster than thecurrent RTX 4090.

PC just can't be stopped. Amazing, truly amazing.

How much will it cost?

yes

@Archangel3371: $2000+

How could it be 70% faster than a 4090 when a 4090 is as ridiculous for today standards as it was when they were originally released? I call bullshit. Its most likely some exclusive feature like DLSS4 that will be only on the 5000 series, and that's how you will see some substantial gains, and if you were to run games natively, good luck seeing more than a 20% improvement.

Yeah, would not be surprised if it's 70% faster at path tracing, but sub 30% on everything else, with +50% price tag.

Glad I didn't impulse buy a 4080 these past few months.

I think every other gen is the sweet spot for me. Though tbh I might try to stretch my 3080 a bit further into the 50xx. I'm doing pretty good all things considered, at the sweet spot of 1440p though I do wish my frames were a bit faster.

Better than an Apple headset at least.

Of course it's bullshit, but it could also be true. It can be both! Such is the wonder of *jazz hands* MARKETING!

Also, perhaps most significantly, emphasis on the "could be".

Then in 2yrs the next one will be 100% faster and cost over $3,000.

The only people winning here are people making these overpriced cards that less than 1% of the "master race" will buy, and then these people will wait for games to be on sale before they buy them because they complain they cost too much 🤣

*Pats his RTX 4070* Stay strong my RTX 4070 friend, stay strong till the RTX 6000 series arrives within 4/5 years.

Cool. But I'm hoping to keep my RTX 3070 until at least the 6000 series, maybe beyond.

Probably about to upgrade my MB, CPU and RAM this year anyway, so I don't think I'll have the money.

Hmmm, 70% more powerful.. Does that also mean 70% more expensive and 70% more power draw?

I'm far more interested in a 5070 as a worthy upgrade over my 3080.

Wut cpu?

Nice. I'd love to shell out 2000 dollars for one PC component that no game needs or can use. I'll be sure to get it on launch day, since I hate money.

Probably Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Would just about max out my budget.

That is great news for me it means the 5060 gonna perform like 4070 super at least.

I recently upgrade my motherboard and CPU to AM5 and ryzen 7600x. still running the old 2060 and this may finally makes me upgrade (I been saying this for 3 years lmao). Per usual I only play emulations and Europa Universalis so I never really spent much on PC but was tempted to upgrade to the recent 4070 super so that Yuzu and Ryujinx runs better. Another year of waiting yahoo.

I will wait for official specs, but...

Typical PC gamer room:

Expensive GPU, no furniture, no paintings or other nonsense.

Doesn’t matter how powerful it is if you don’t have games that take advantage of that power.

currently quite true as 4090 pretty much slams everything you throw at it, but running stuff at higher res and fps is taking advantage of hardware, if it wasn't then there wasn't much point of ps5 pro coming out either right

All that power (for likely $3000+), and I’ll bet it still stutters in Unreal Engine games. I don’t care about wildly gouged flagships like the X090 series, the true problem will be if/when Nvidia continues to match the price of every 5000 series card to that of the card of equivalent performance in the 4000 series, and AMD follows along with just a $50 price cut for each equivalent rather than taking advantage of the huge budget/midrange gamer void in the market.

At this rate I might just keep my gtx 1070 and invest in a next gen console for the graphically intense titles. $600+ for a mid-range gpu meant for 1440p is obscene.

@SolidGame_basic:

There are many games that take advantage of the RTX 4090 and would demand an even more powerful card to "max".

Remember 1440p and 60 fps is FAR from the max.

This year manufactures have launched more than dozen different 4K/240hz OLED monitors.

Do you know how hard it is to run 4K at 240 fps? the only games the all mighty RTX 4090 can run max settings in 4K/240 are the typical eSports titles like CS, Overwatch, Siege, etc... or very old games.

Fortnite runs at around 4K/70fps on a 4090... (UE5 title with no frame gen).

Most blockbuster titles run 4K max at anywhere from 80-160fps with a few exceptions going beyond 160. Think RE-Engine games.

Any game using path tracing (CP2077, Alan Wake 2, Avatar FoP, Portal RTX, Prelude RTX, Quake 2 RTX) will only run at around 4K 70-80ps and that's with DLSS3. without DLSS3 its we get like 20-40 fps.

So yeah, even if the 5090 is 70% faster than a 4090 (doubt) games will still push it beyond its limits.

This isn't 2007-2010 anymore when we had games like Crysis running at 20-30fps on the fastest PCs.

Now its all about running better-than-PS5-visuals with RT/PT, 4K and still get 100-240 fps.

For instance: I'd rather play Horizon Forbidden West in native 4K/150 fps rather than play it in 8K / 30fps or have a higher than PS5 setting and get low fps.

The Pee Salty Seas are very turbulent and.... broke this time of year. lolol :P

An increase in performance doesn't mean that the game is being developed specifically to take advantage of the hardware. There's a reason why Sony 1st party games look amazing, because the developer knows how to tailor the game to the hardware.

@SolidGame_basic: Well that's true. Games are optimised for the lowest common denominator, which would be the shitty Xbox Series S lol.

But with resolutions and ultra high frame rate, I think its fine.

if my 4090 runs a game at 4K/120 that only runs in 720p/30 on an XSS - I'm happy.

Nvidia has made some huge strides in bandwidth that have led to some breakthroughs in other fields. But in gaming it’s like they‘ve been playing a little rope-a-dope by not really offering the big leap in gaming performance they are capable of. One big reason is the lack of competition at the high end. The other is the games industry isn’t doing anything that requires big leaps in performance. But that’s probably consoles holding us back. With the 4000 series cards, consumers have shown they have no problem paying these wild GPU prices. The xx70 cards used to be in the $300 range. The xx80 are $500 and the xx90/Titan around $1000. The prices have nearly doubled across the board and yet consumers don’t seem to mind.

That said, I’m ready to jump back in on the enthusiast cards. I wish SLI was still a thing because I’d buy 2. I miss my Titan Black sli days…

Might as well wait for Zen5 X3D.

On what metric? The 4060 does not even beat 3060Ti, it's not even close. Jensen does not care about the "low end".

Welp that just mean no money to nvidia. I can wait for better cards I barely game on PC most of my gaming is on console.

I doubt someone buying a $2000 GPU is broke, brokey.

@R4gn4r0k said:

Typical PC gamer room:

Expensive GPU, no furniture, no paintings or other nonsense.

Incredible. Clean. Even that plastic PC case on the left with holes everywhere for ventilation is amazing.

As long as mom can afford Hot Pockets who cares right? ;o

I'm just messing around here, nuttin serious. lol :P

Yeah these cards tend to get really hot these days. Still though, it's incredibly what they manage to do. I've been absolutely amazed by tech like DLAA and Nvidia TrueHDR.

Hehe

lol..outside of verified 10/10 games, we know consoles are where the real action is at..awww yeaahhh

I'm still rocking the R9 5900X myself, but I do want to jump into the AM5 platform this year. So I'm actually waiting for Intel's Arrow Lake to be released sometime this year and see how far Intel has come. I like Ryzen CPU, but kinda miss Intel so hopefully there Arrow Lake will turn out to be legit good and if not, there's always Zen5 X3D right?

It will be extremely expensive seeing Nvidia's pricing trajectory lately, coupled with them no longer needing their gaming GPUs to sell in high volumes due to their focus on other industries (AI). Hope I am wrong though and that it comes in at $1500, which, although still an unreasonable price, at least is same as current 4090 MSRP.

I had switched from a 3080 Ti to a 7900 XTX and frankly miss Nvidia (fewer driver bugs, dont get me wrong they had them too but less frequently than AMD) and also prefer their superior tech (DLSS and their framegen).

Looking forward to seeing though since I will probably switch if its worth it, especially since my last few upgrades over past like 5-6 years were essentially free (sold 2070 Super to get 3070 at MSRP, so effectively free upgrade, then sold the 3070 non-LHR at massive markup to miners to switch to a 3080 Ti, which then I sold and added $350 to get a 7900 XTX). Beauty of PCs is their upgradability, can sell a part, add a little, and upgrade.

RTX 4090 released in october 2022. I remember when compute doubled every 18 months. Now it’s 1,7 times instead…

I wouldn't be surprised if it is some frame generation optimization being sold and marketed as higher raw performance.😂

@rmpumper:

Nah. When it comes to CPUs, I'm happy to upgrade just before the next line-up. I upgraded to my current 8700K just as AMD was already running rings around it and I'm still getting good use out of it to this day.

Besides, it means it's a mature platform now, which should mean less problems. I tried buying brand new, latest and greatest hardware once. It was not a pleasant experience.

The usual reminder the MLID is an iffy source.

Great jump if true though. But I suspect that number may be broken down into 30-40% improvement in raw perf and the rest using a next gen implementation of frame gen.

I wont be looking at a GPU upgrade until 2 criteria are met though:

1) Roughly 4090 super (if that was a thing) perf for 650 ish bucks and happily runs on an 850W power supply.

2) Games out there that actually give me the itch to upgrade. At the moment there is SFA.

Thinking of grabbing it myself, but with mobo and ram, that's almost $1000cad. Jesus Christ.

Damn no Microcenter nearbye? They had a $450 bundle with decent ram 32gb ddr5 and mobo and 7800x3d.

There's no such thing in Canada.

That's what happens when you don't want freedom and democracy.

I'm planning on upgrading to AM5 myself from my own 5900x. Thinking on grabbing the another *900 series and then wait for Zen 6 3d when they do release as the last upgrade for AM5 platform. My brother will be getting a sizable CPU upgrade when I do upgrade my cpu this year. Going from a Ryzen 5 1600AF(ie 2600) to a 5900x...

I think Arrow Lake is going to have some growing pains with it removing Hyper threading, and relying on pairing efficiency cores to basically act like HT for the normal performance cores. Intel will need some serious efficient coordination skills in hardware and windows scheduling to properly manage and avoid performance issues with programs and games.

Bitch, i do daily Helldives in Helldiver2, all FOR Freedom and Demogracy.

I had a 3900X and wanted to upgrade on AM4. Once all was said and done I went from a 5900X to a 5800X3D because of the gaming performance. And once I go AM5, I’m getting whatever 8-core 3D chip is newest. The 12+ core stuff was fun for benchmarking and stuff (I don’t do anything taxing on my home PC) but the uptick in performance from the 3D chip is substantial

@robertos said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

Typical PC gamer room:

Expensive GPU, no furniture, no paintings or other nonsense.

Incredible. Clean. Even that plastic PC case on the left with holes everywhere for ventilation is amazing.

think that is his hamper for his cum rags lmao.

It's also rumored to be between 2000 and 2500 dollars. It aint easy being master race.

Your gains from a 5900 to 5800x3d will vary depending on what you play, resolution/settings,what you have running in the background and how old and cluttered the windows install is etc. Those extra cores and threads do really help with multitasking and 1% lows in well multi threaded games.