PC game sales

PC has sales?

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="bonzibuddyxxx"]

Usually when a company releases pc and console version, the console version sells more.

SakusEnvoy

All I could find were UK numbers after a quick search [link]. Over there, 84% of sales were for the console versions (53% for 360, 31% for PS3), 16% for PC. And as usual I don't think NPD thought it sold well enough to even acknowledge the PC version's existence [link].

I couldn't find a source proving that Metro 2033 sold more on PC, but in that particular rare circumstance I could see it going either way. It was released on only one console, the 360 version was obviously inferior and PC gamers really hyped it up, and Europe accounted for over two-thirds of sales. Still, all I could find was THQ saying "A lot of the sales were done on PC". [link]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"] Bad Company 2 sold more on pc than both consoles. The vast majority of Metro 2033 sales were on pc. Captain__Tripps

All I could find were UK numbers after a quick search [link]. Over there, 84% of sales were for the console versions (53% for 360, 31% for PS3), 16% for PC. And as usual I don't think NPD thought it sold well enough to even acknowledge the PC version's existence [link].

I couldn't find a source proving that Metro 2033 sold more on PC, but in that particular rare circumstance I could see it going either way. It was released on only one console, the 360 version was obviously inferior and PC gamers really hyped it up, and Europe accounted for over two-thirds of sales. Still, all I could find was THQ saying "A lot of the sales were done on PC". [link]

The key is that many just don't bother to publicly release that information, and often they prefer to stress the number of PS3/360 copies sold.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Sources would be appreciated, especially for BC2.

All I could find were UK numbers after a quick search [link]. Over there, 84% of sales were for the console versions (53% for 360, 31% for PS3), 16% for PC. And as usual I don't think NPD thought it sold well enough to even acknowledge the PC version's existence [link].

I couldn't find a source proving that Metro 2033 sold more on PC, but in that particular rare circumstance I could see it going either way. It was released on only one console, the 360 version was obviously inferior and PC gamers really hyped it up, and Europe accounted for over two-thirds of sales. Still, all I could find was THQ saying "A lot of the sales were done on PC". [link]

SakusEnvoy

The key is that many just don't bother to publicly release that information, and often they prefer to stress the number of PS3/360 copies sold.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Sources would be appreciated, especially for BC2.

All I could find were UK numbers after a quick search [link]. Over there, 84% of sales were for the console versions (53% for 360, 31% for PS3), 16% for PC. And as usual I don't think NPD thought it sold well enough to even acknowledge the PC version's existence [link].

I couldn't find a source proving that Metro 2033 sold more on PC, but in that particular rare circumstance I could see it going either way. It was released on only one console, the 360 version was obviously inferior and PC gamers really hyped it up, and Europe accounted for over two-thirds of sales. Still, all I could find was THQ saying "A lot of the sales were done on PC". [link]

SakusEnvoy

The key is that many just don't bother to publicly release that information, and often they prefer to stress the number of PS3/360 copies sold.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] There are no solid PC numbers like pretty much any pc game. He was probably going on the fact that there were, or maybe still are, more online PC players than either console. Captain__Tripps

The key is that many just don't bother to publicly release that information, and often they prefer to stress the number of PS3/360 copies sold.

I think you mean the sims is the bestselling PC series of all time. Plenty of console series have outsold it.

They dont even count PC retail sales worldwide, only NPD

and they never count Steam or Direct download sales

it makes alot of people think PC gaming is dead

Wii Play

Nintendogs

Wii Fit

Mario Kart Wii

Wii Sports Resort

Super Mario Bros. 3

These are the only console games that top The Sims that are exclusive to consoles.

Notice something?

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] I've found that when a PC game does do unusually well, the publisher doesn't have much trouble releasing fairly precise information about it. EA happily announced when The Sims 3 had sold over 1.4 million units in its first week, and Blizzard knew SC2 sold over 1.5 million in its first two days. It may not be possible to know the precise number of digital downloads out there, but I'm certain that the major digital retailers like D2D and Steam keep a record of how many downloads are made for each game. I'm sure the publisher needs only ask them for the information and they'll provide it.

The key is that many just don't bother to publicly release that information, and often they prefer to stress the number of PS3/360 copies sold.

markinthedark

I think you mean the sims is the bestselling PC series of all time. Plenty of console series have outsold it.

Wii Play

Nintendogs

Wii Fit

Mario Kart Wii

Wii Sports Resort

Super Mario Bros. 3

These are the only console games that top The Sims that are exclusive to consoles.

Notice something?

millerlight89

where are you getting this info from?

you are telling me the sims outsold halo 3?

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] The Sims is the best selling series of all time, Sims 3 was just doing business as usual, not unusually well. It also seems the PC exclusives are more likely to have some numbers released as opposed to a multiplat. A publisher isn't neccessarily going to brag if the pc version outsold either console.Captain__Tripps

I think you mean the sims is the bestselling PC series of all time. Plenty of console series have outsold it.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

Wii Play

Nintendogs

Wii Fit

Mario Kart Wii

Wii Sports Resort

Super Mario Bros. 3

These are the only console games that top The Sims that are exclusive to consoles.

Notice something?

markinthedark

where are you getting this info from?

you are telling me the sims outsold halo 3?

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] The Sims is the best selling series of all time, Sims 3 was just doing business as usual, not unusually well. It also seems the PC exclusives are more likely to have some numbers released as opposed to a multiplat. A publisher isn't neccessarily going to brag if the pc version outsold either console.Captain__Tripps

I think you mean the sims is the bestselling PC series of all time. Plenty of console series have outsold it.

oh you are counting expansions as full game sales... and including every game in the series. Also sims is multiplat.

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

I think you mean the sims is the bestselling PC series of all time. Plenty of console series have outsold it.

markinthedark

oh you are counting expansions as full game sales... and including every game in the series.

For the love of god... not again...

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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] I doubt a lot of series have sold a 100 million on a single console, or even a single manufacturer but I could be wrong I guess. In any case, the Sims and SC2 are the two of the biggest if not biggest franchises on the PC, so sales numbers are easier to come by.Eggimannd

oh you are counting expansions as full game sales... and including every game in the series.

For the love of god... not again...

well sims is also multiplat.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] I doubt a lot of series have sold a 100 million on a single console, or even a single manufacturer but I could be wrong I guess. In any case, the Sims and SC2 are the two of the biggest if not biggest franchises on the PC, so sales numbers are easier to come by.Eggimannd

oh you are counting expansions as full game sales... and including every game in the series.

For the love of god... not again...

[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

oh you are counting expansions as full game sales... and including every game in the series.

millerlight89

For the love of god... not again...

ok then how bout the fact that the number includes ps2, xbox, gamecube, and mobile phone sales.

doesnt sound too exclusive to me.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

For the love of god... not again...

markinthedark

ok then how bout the fact that the number includes ps2, xbox, gamecube, and mobile phone sales.

doesnt sound too exclusive to me.

People at SW really will argue over anything.

Regardless, the answer to the TC's question, "What do pc game sales figures look like compared to console sales figures ... what about multiplats like MW2? Would the sales be higher or lower or in and around the same?" is clear: the majority of major multiplats sell better on consoles than on PC.

The results for the particular title singled out by the OP, MW2, are also clear. Robert Bowling, Infinity Ward's Community Manager, perhaps put it most bluntly on the official forums: " "Yes, PC is the smallest percentage in terms of how much sold on each platform but that hardly means anything other than the PC is just the smallest market."

"The PC version of Modern Warfare 2 has actually outsold the PC version of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in its first week. Making it the most successful PC version," Bowling added. "Essentially, all this percentage proves is that the console versions sold great, not that the PC version sold poorly, because that's actually not the case. The PC version has done tremendous in its first week, better than our previous game." [link]

There's no hard data for PC game sales. There's still no one counting retail along with digital game sales therefore any report as of yet is very inaccurate. This topic is merely based off people guessing.

If someone does put out full PC game sales data, I'm pretty sure the PCGA will be the ones to do it. So far they did hardware data worldwide, I would assume they will work on software data next if they haven't already started.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

For the love of god... not again...

markinthedark

ok then how bout the fact that the number includes ps2, xbox, gamecube, and mobile phone sales.

doesnt sound too exclusive to me.

Actually,I´ve checked some links and they all state the 100 millions sales related to the PC,they don´t even usually bother to mention the late,watered down ports of the series on consoles.

Bad company 2 did not sell more on PC, someone already proved console outsold PC significantly in the UK. So unless you have a source that says otherwise, i think we can say that the consoles versions sold more.bonzibuddyxxx

There's no hard data for PC game sales. There's still no one counting retail along with digital game sales therefore any report as of yet is very inaccurate. This topic is merely based off people guessing.

If someone does put out full PC game sales data, I'm pretty sure the PCGA will be the ones to do it. So far they did hardware data worldwide, I would assume they will work on software data next if they haven't already started.

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

There's no hard data for PC game sales. There's still no one counting retail along with digital game sales therefore any report as of yet is very inaccurate. This topic is merely based off people guessing.

If someone does put out full PC game sales data, I'm pretty sure the PCGA will be the ones to do it. So far they did hardware data worldwide, I would assume they will work on software data next if they haven't already started.

shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] You got to love how some people make excuses to fit their arguments. I wouldn't bother man.Arach666

ok then how bout the fact that the number includes ps2, xbox, gamecube, and mobile phone sales.

doesnt sound too exclusive to me.

Actually,I´ve checked some links and they all state the 100 millions sales related to the PC,they don´t even usually bother to mention the late,watered down ports of the series on consoles.

it appears to be all based on some letter that says "100 million units sold around the world" it doesnt reference the PC at all.

I think its being intentionally vague about what a "unit" is...

EDIT: not familiar with the sims games so i had to look online but apparently you can buy single items for micropayments online... im guessing these micro transactions made up alot of the 100 million.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

ok then how bout the fact that the number includes ps2, xbox, gamecube, and mobile phone sales.

doesnt sound too exclusive to me.

markinthedark

Actually,I´ve checked some links and they all state the 100 millions sales related to the PC,they don´t even usually bother to mention the late,watered down ports of the series on consoles.

it appears to be all based on some letter that says "100 million units sold around the world" it doesnt reference the PC at all.

I think its being intentionally vague about what a "unit" is...

Notice how whenever the 100 millions number comes up they always mention the PC version and the only reference to the consoles is to say that "slimmed down versions for home consoles such as the PS2, Xbox and Wii". There´s more sites that state the same and many don´t even mention those console ports because they are pretty irrelevant for the series.

Please,do you really think that anyone cares about the sales that those console versions did? They must be really,really small because there´s no numbers to be found,unlike the PC version.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

ok then how bout the fact that the number includes ps2, xbox, gamecube, and mobile phone sales.

doesnt sound too exclusive to me.

markinthedark

Actually,I´ve checked some links and they all state the 100 millions sales related to the PC,they don´t even usually bother to mention the late,watered down ports of the series on consoles.

it appears to be all based on some letter that says "100 million units sold around the world" it doesnt reference the PC at all.

I think its being intentionally vague about what a "unit" is...

EDIT: not familiar with the sims games so i had to look online but apparently you can buy single items for micropayments online... im guessing these micro transactions made up alot of the 100 million.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Do show me a link whit the numbers of the sales of the console versions of The Sims. If they reach 5% of the total sales I´d be very surprised.

Actually,I´ve checked some links and they all state the 100 millions sales related to the PC,they don´t even usually bother to mention the late,watered down ports of the series on consoles.

Arach666

it appears to be all based on some letter that says "100 million units sold around the world" it doesnt reference the PC at all.

I think its being intentionally vague about what a "unit" is...

Notice how whenever the 100 millions number comes up they always mention the PC version and the only reference to the consoles is to say that "slimmed down versions for home consoles such as the PS2, Xbox and Wii". There´s more sites that state the same and many don´t even mention those console ports because they are pretty irrelevant for the series.

Please,do you really think that anyone cares about the sales that those console versions did? They must be really,really small because there´s no numbers to be found,unlike the PC version.

this is the announcement...

also after noticing you can make like 50 cent micropayments online to buy single items... im guessing alot of these 100 million units are micropayments on the website.

it was worded vaguely for a reason.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Do show me a link whit the numbers of the sales of the console versions of The Sims. If they reach 5% of the total sales I´d be very surprised.

Actually,I´ve checked some links and they all state the 100 millions sales related to the PC,they don´t even usually bother to mention the late,watered down ports of the series on consoles.

Arach666

it appears to be all based on some letter that says "100 million units sold around the world" it doesnt reference the PC at all.

I think its being intentionally vague about what a "unit" is...

EDIT: not familiar with the sims games so i had to look online but apparently you can buy single items for micropayments online... im guessing these micro transactions made up alot of the 100 million.

where are you getting this info?

in the original letter, it just says 100 million sold... it doesnt even say what was sold.

I thought it said units sold... but apparently that was even too specific.

I pretty sure they don't count micro payments as game sales.... because who the hell does???? That would be pretty ridiculous. And most of the 100 million probably comes from expansions, there are3 full games in the series and over 30+ expansions.bonzibuddyxxx

this press release was pre the release of sims 3.

it only includes sims 1 & 2 and sims online which was a major flop.

EDIT: and based on what i could gather it seems sims 1 & 2 sold about 21-25 million across all platforms... so unless every single owner bought 3 expansions.... thats including micropayments.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

it appears to be all based on some letter that says "100 million units sold around the world" it doesnt reference the PC at all.

I think its being intentionally vague about what a "unit" is...

EDIT: not familiar with the sims games so i had to look online but apparently you can buy single items for micropayments online... im guessing these micro transactions made up alot of the 100 million.

markinthedark

where are you getting this info?

in the original letter, it says nothing about what does or doesnt count as a "unit"

They specifically state that "The Sims, and their numerous expansions, add-ons, and spin-offs, the publisher said its flagship franchise has brought in more than $2.5 billion in revenues" and then separatedly stete that it sold over 125 million UNITS,wich refers to copies of the game and the expansions,you know,the ACTUAL games.

Unless you think Gamespot is wrong as well.

/discussion.

[QUOTE="rcignoni"]A lot, Steam sells games like hot pancakes.markinthedark

thats a myth:

"At first glance, it may seem like the digital alternative is quickly surmounting retail sales, but it's not that simple. According to Michael Pachter of Wedbush MorganSecurities, downloads are probably $1 to $2 billion in global sales this year, compared to the $26 billion packaged goods market. While downloads are growing – and growing fast – there simply aren't enough of them to account for the fall in retail sales."

http://www.techspot.com/news/35648-digital-game-sales-booming-as-retail-continues-descent.html

direct downloads are a very, very small portion of sales... as we can see they are about 3.8-7.6% of total PC game sales.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="rcignoni"]A lot, Steam sells games like hot pancakes.blue_hazy_basic

thats a myth:

"At first glance, it may seem like the digital alternative is quickly surmounting retail sales, but it's not that simple. According to Michael Pachter of Wedbush MorganSecurities, downloads are probably $1 to $2 billion in global sales this year, compared to the $26 billion packaged goods market. While downloads are growing – and growing fast – there simply aren't enough of them to account for the fall in retail sales."

http://www.techspot.com/news/35648-digital-game-sales-booming-as-retail-continues-descent.html

direct downloads are a very, very small portion of sales... as we can see they are about 3.8-7.6% of total PC game sales.

[QUOTE="rcignoni"]A lot, Steam sells games like hot pancakes.markinthedark

thats a myth:

"At first glance, it may seem like the digital alternative is quickly surmounting retail sales, but it's not that simple. According to Michael Pachter of Wedbush MorganSecurities, downloads are probably $1 to $2 billion in global sales this year, compared to the $26 billion packaged goods market. While downloads are growing – and growing fast – there simply aren't enough of them to account for the fall in retail sales."

http://www.techspot.com/news/35648-digital-game-sales-booming-as-retail-continues-descent.html

direct downloads are a very, very small portion of sales... as we can see they are about 3.8-7.6% of total PC game sales.

thats a myth:

"At first glance, it may seem like the digital alternative is quickly surmounting retail sales, but it's not that simple. According to Michael Pachter of Wedbush MorganSecurities, downloads are probably $1 to $2 billion in global sales this year, compared to the $26 billion packaged goods market. While downloads are growing – and growing fast – there simply aren't enough of them to account for the fall in retail sales."

http://www.techspot.com/news/35648-digital-game-sales-booming-as-retail-continues-descent.html

direct downloads are a very, very small portion of sales... as we can see they are about 3.8-7.6% of total PC game sales.

markinthedark

really I have no idea, but its enough for great games to continue being made. One thing they cant seem to do is sell semi-casual games with somewhat demanding graphics, you know like the halo and uncharted games. Prebuilt computers are not catered towards gaming very well, loaded with 16 gigs of ram and other nonsense... that is the biggest problem. Apparently there is going to be a push for for prebuilt computers with gaming in mind, if done right it could be huge.

Now besides that, pc gaming is still huge among the more serious gamers, the mmo market (especially wow), and in europe. I dont think most people realize how easy it really is to get into pc gaming, good news is its getting even easier as technology is starting to plateau a bit.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="rcignoni"]A lot, Steam sells games like hot pancakes.wooooode

thats a myth:

"At first glance, it may seem like the digital alternative is quickly surmounting retail sales, but it's not that simple. According to Michael Pachter of Wedbush MorganSecurities, downloads are probably $1 to $2 billion in global sales this year, compared to the $26 billion packaged goods market. While downloads are growing – and growing fast – there simply aren't enough of them to account for the fall in retail sales."

http://www.techspot.com/news/35648-digital-game-sales-booming-as-retail-continues-descent.html

direct downloads are a very, very small portion of sales... as we can see they are about 3.8-7.6% of total PC game sales.

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

Today, PC gaming generates 43% of the total gaming revenue. The next closest platform is the Wii, which generated 24% of the total gaming revenue in 2009. And the PC share is growing: by 2013, the forecast is that PC gaming will represent 56% of the total pie.

http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/04/19/hear-that-knocking-sound-its-pc-gaming/

blackace

That's all from MMO dude. Most of the PC sales are overseas in U.K., Korea and other Asian countries. PC gaming sales aren't that high in the states. The way they analyzed the PC market compared to the console market is way off. Yes the PC user base is easily higher then game consoles, but the number of people using them for games is a small fraction and it's even smaller for people who are actually physically purchasing PC games or doing DD games. Going by how many graphic cards that are sold is ridiculous. All graphic cards are not used for gaming, so you can't go specifically off of that. PC gaming has grown some over the past 3-4 yrs, but it's not going to own 56% of the market by 2013 unless one of the big 3 pulls the plug on the Wii, PS3 or XBox 360. PC's biggest strength in gaming is online games being played off of Facebook and other community websites. All there are tons of free MMO type games out there now and they are growing. Still, console and handheld gaming is still growing faster. The 3DS will prove this next year.

Wow, get some facts man. Nothing you said is true.

PC gaming dwarfs any console, there's absolutely no arguing that.

Consolites don't want to admit it, but PC gaming is FFFFing huge.

"Big" games such as call of duty and gta sell significantly better on consoles than pc....i dont think this can be debated!

pc is the one biggest platfrom because everyone has a pc these days. Consoles make more money then the pc industry when it comes to games. Thats why consoles have huge dev backing. If pc made all the money then devs would not be going console. i heard cod mw 2 was downloaded like 4.5 million times. the amount of pirates on the pc is just scary .

pc is the one biggest platfrom because everyone has a pc these days. Consoles make more money then the pc industry when it comes to games. Thats why consoles have huge dev backing. If pc made all the money then devs would not be going console. i heard cod mw 2 was downloaded like 4.5 million times. the amount of pirates on the pc is just scary .

dontshackzmii

Devs are seemingly moving to multiplat development rather than just consoles. PC has the largest dev backing, otherwise, how would it's exclusive library be so huge (and just this gen alone)?

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

pc is the one biggest platfrom because everyone has a pc these days. Consoles make more money then the pc industry when it comes to games. Thats why consoles have huge dev backing. If pc made all the money then devs would not be going console. i heard cod mw 2 was downloaded like 4.5 million times. the amount of pirates on the pc is just scary .

lundy86_4

Devs are seemingly moving to multiplat development rather than just consoles. PC has the largest dev backing, otherwise, how would it's exclusive library be so huge (and just this gen alone)?

pc has more games because anyone with a pc can make a game for it . Plus pc does not have generations like consoles do .

pc has more games because anyone with a pc can make a game for it . Plus pc does not have generations like consoles do .

dontshackzmii

This generation alone has more exclusive than consoles. Also, those exclusives are all from higher-end devs or indie devs.

If more devs were concentrating on consoles, PC would *not* have more exclusives.

Also, like I said, many devs are now focusing on multiplat development.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

pc is the one biggest platfrom because everyone has a pc these days. Consoles make more money then the pc industry when it comes to games. Thats why consoles have huge dev backing. If pc made all the money then devs would not be going console. i heard cod mw 2 was downloaded like 4.5 million times. the amount of pirates on the pc is just scary .

lundy86_4

Devs are seemingly moving to multiplat development rather than just consoles. PC has the largest dev backing, otherwise, how would it's exclusive library be so huge (and just this gen alone)?