Pc gamers don't get it

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

So true. I am a hermit, and even I can't stand those fanboys.

mo0ksi

Wait, a hermit actually agreed with me on that??That's quite unexpected...

I just meant that in a thread like this,it's surprising to not be shot down by the PC defense anti-air units.

Consoles are a better solution for most people because the fit into existing home entertainment setups. A PS3 provides in a neat package a blueray player, a games console. a media hub and social networking functionality. Where can I get a PC for the same price that does all this in such a slick package?

teh_cell

PC gamers live in a fantasy world.They know they have the best games,graphics,and controls,but they continue to deny the PC's hardware and compatibility problems,price,and it's importance to gaming.

789shadow

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Wait, a hermit actually agreed with me on that??That's quite unexpected...

789shadow

I just meant that in a thread like this,it's surprising to not be shot down by the PC defense anti-air units.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

PC gamers live in a fantasy world.They know they have the best games,graphics,and controls,but they continue to deny the PC's hardware and compatibility problems,price,and it's importance to gaming.

Vandalvideo

Not out here in the real world.

Not out here in the real world.789shadow

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

So true. I am a hermit, and even I can't stand those fanboys.

millerlight89

Wait, a hermit actually agreed with me on that??That's quite unexpected...

PC gamers are so oblivious to the negatives of PC gaming and the advantages of a console.

speedsix

which are?

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

PC gamers live in a fantasy world.They know they have the best games,graphics,and controls,but they continue to deny the PC's hardware and compatibility problems,price,and it's importance to gaming.

Vandalvideo

The nice thing about consoles though is knowing the the game was made exactly with your hardware specs in mind. Building a gaming pc is fun the first few times but after a while the novelty wears off.

The point about price is moot anyways since pc gaming is getting the shaft from the industry. The pc hardware advantage doesn't matter much when the consoles are the baseline.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/03/crytek-to-show-off-newest-engine-at-gdc-for-pc-and-consoles.ars

I use my PC for work, and misc projects and my console's for gaming. There's nothing to "get", its just personal preference.

The nice thing about consoles though is knowing the the game was made exactly with your hardware specs in mind. dc337

Melodramatic much? Do you refer to brewpubs as "dictatorships" because they won't use exactly the amount of hops you demand? Do you refer to a car dealership as a "dictatorship" because they won't sell you a roadster with a V8 in it? Is Dell a dictatorship because they won't sell you a copy of WinSrv 2008 on a desktop PC?

The truth is, consoles are sold as a product. Someone else designs the hardware, creates the software, and packages it together. Complaining that you don't get to do whatever you want with it is ridiculous, as it's specifically designed to do one thing.

lowe0

It was supposed to be an insult Lowe0, it doesn't need to have some deep meaning beyond that.

In comparison to PC consoles are a dictatorship, everything is done the rulers way and you have no say in the matter. If someone doesn't mind that then there isn't a problem, but when they create a thread declaring consoles the better solution I remind them they are gloating behind bars. Consoles sacrifice freedoms and fuctionality for their convencience which doesn't sit well with everyone, it isn't that "PC gamers don't get it" when it comes to favouring PC over consoles; it is we saw the options and made our decision.

Calling us ignorant for favouring PC over consoles just makes the OP look like a consolite fanboy.

Also, I love the "maxes everything except for Crysis" comments (see Puckhog's comment for an example of one). So maxed-out Crysis counts in screenshot wars, but when someone actually has to make it run at a reasonable framerate, the backpedaling starts?

lowe0

Console users have their bullshots and we have ours, only our screenshots are taken in engine real time; not pre rendered and touched up by an artist.

You are not seriously going to criticise best conditions Crysis screenshots while tolerating 16X AA, perfect AF, touched up console shots are you? At least one day the hardware to run Crysis this way will be affordable, console bullshots are just outright lies.

Consoles are a better solution for most people because the fit into existing home entertainment setups. A PS3 provides in a neat package a blueray player, a games console. a media hub and social networking functionality. Where can I get a PC for the same price that does all this in such a slick package?

teh_cell

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

PC gamers are so oblivious to the negatives of PC gaming and the advantages of a console.

lundy86_4

which are?

System maintenance

Buggy releases

Delayed console ports

Limited retail selection

Shorter lifespan of components

No central chat/server system

Lack of games in certain genres (jrpgs, sports games, music games, arcade racers)

Poor resale value of games

Zero trade-in value at gamestop/game crazy

Games not designed for controller play / system menus still require m+k

Lack of local multiplayer

Geeky persona, having a pc in your living room will not help you attract a female.

Declining investment in exclusives by key companies

Game selection is disproportionately mmorpg/rts/casual

But yet my PC does everything better than the PS3.

Oh, did I mention the games are better? :shock:

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dc337

Just once I'd like to hear criticisms from a consolite that are actually debate worthy; not misinformation, hateboy propaganda and outright lies.

That and this user has been suspected of posting ignorant comments on purpose to ignite a flame war, no one is that ignorant.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

PC gamers are so oblivious to the negatives of PC gaming and the advantages of a console.

which are?

System maintenance

Buggy releases

Delayed console ports

Limited retail selection

Shorter lifespan of components

No central chat/server system

Lack of games in certain genres (jrpgs, sports games, music games, arcade racers)

Poor resale value of games

Zero trade-in value at gamestop/game crazy

Games not designed for controller play / system menus still require m+k

Lack of local multiplayer

Geeky persona, having a pc in your living room will not help you attract a female.

Declining investment in exclusives by key companies

Game selection is disproportionately mmorpg/rts/casual

But yet my PC does everything better than the PS3.

Oh, did I mention the games are better? :shock:

Aljosa23

It is one thing to like pc gaming but describing it as the end-all of gaming is just plain silly.

Buggy releases

Delayed console ports

Limited retail selection

Shorter lifespan of components

No central chat/server system

Lack of games in certain genres (jrpgs, sports games, music games, arcade racers)

Poor resale value of games Zero trade-in value at gamestop/game crazy

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

But yet my PC does everything better than the PS3.

Oh, did I mention the games are better? :shock:

It is one thing to like pc gaming but describing it as the end-all of gaming is just plain silly.

Games not designed for controller play / system menus still require m+k

Lack of local multiplayer

[Geeky persona, having a pc in your living room will not help you attract a female.

Declining investment in exclusives by key companies

Game selection is disproportionately mmorpg/rts/casual

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

But yet my PC does everything better than the PS3.

Oh, did I mention the games are better? :shock:

dc337

It is one thing to like pc gaming but describing it as the end-all of gaming is just plain silly.

I have 2 Wired 360 controllers and 4 USB inputs on my PC, so yeah you understand. :D

On top of that, I'm pretty sure SFIV will release on PC with the extra content free, that you consolites pay for. :D

Games not designed for controller play / system menus still require m+kVandalvideo

I play plenty of games using gamepads. Out of all the games I've played, only certain RTs games and Diablo doesn't work. Vandal download xpader you can map gamepad buttons as you wish,diablo II is actually fun on a good game pad!! :D console fanboys dont know what they are talking about on topics of PC,and here on gamespot you even cant talk about emulation and such marvels :P

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

PC gamers are so oblivious to the negatives of PC gaming and the advantages of a console.

dc337

which are?

System maintenance

Buggy releases - fixed with mods and a slew of patches

Delayed console ports - agreed, but we have plenty of pc exclusives that beat console ports hands down

Limited retail selection - ermmmm... what?

Shorter lifespan of components - again this is not right... all components can easliy last a number of years. Mine have lasted a year perfectly with heavy overclocks

No central chat/server system - Depends if you use steam, xfire etc.

Lack of games in certain genres (jrpgs, sports games, music games, arcade racers) - So do consoles, with lack of awesome adventure games

Poor resale value of games - because of pirating on an open system, if it happened to consoles the same thing would be in place

Zero trade-in value at gamestop/game crazy - reason above

Games not designed for controller play / system menus still require m+k - depends on the game, all new games work with 360 controller, as do old ones

Lack of local multiplayer - this is just wrong

Geeky persona, having a pc in your living room will not help you attract a female. - I do very well thanks, as I also play many sports

Declining investment in exclusives by key companies - LOL... PC is not dying, nor will it ever

Game selection is disproportionately mmorpg/rts/casual - FPS, Adventure, Action/Adventure, RPG, Racing, Flight Sims, Sims

As you see every point pretty much can be negated quite easily

[QUOTE="789shadow"]Not out here in the real world.Vandalvideo

Thanks for proving that PC gaming is the most expensive.A console generation typically lasts twice as long,and by your own admission,PC's need to be upgraded every three years,which definitely adds up to a larger pricethan consoles.

Thanks for proving that PC gaming is the most expensive.A console generation typically lasts twice as long,and by your own admission,PC's need to be upgraded every three years,which definitely adds up to a larger pricethan consoles.789shadow

How old are you my child?? LoL mah PS3 is tha chick magnet,My gf likes my Wii motion sensor really senses,xbox360 iz zo seksy gets my wife wet also your other "negative aspects" are very similar in relevance to this one dispator

Laugh all you want but to girls:

Tricked out gaming pc = geeky

Keyboard and mouse on coffee table = geeky

Your NzxT Nemesis case: Gawdy and uber geeky.

Good lord get an antec at least. And to think you believe it is no big deal. Wow.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="789shadow"]Not out here in the real world.789shadow

Thanks for proving that PC gaming is the most expensive.A console generation typically lasts twice as long,and by your own admission,PC's need to be upgraded every three years,which definitely adds up to a larger pricethan consoles.

You don't NEED to play Max with 16xAA and 1080p. :|

[QUOTE="dispator"] Vandal download xpader you can map gamepad buttons as you wish,diablo II is actually fun on a good game pad!! :D console fanboys dont know what they are talking about on topics of PC,and here on gamespot you even cant talk about emulation and such marvels :PVandalvideo

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

PC gamers are so oblivious to the negatives of PC gaming and the advantages of a console.

dc337

which are?

System maintenance

Given, but its not a big thing really.

Buggy releases

Like console games dont get buggy releases, at least PC games get patches :lol:

Delayed console ports

Deleyed or nonexistant ports from PC explusives anyone?

Limited retail selection

limited selection period

Shorter lifespan of components

xbox360 anyone? :lol:

No central chat/server system

xfire/steam work just fine, why does everything have to be forced on you and centralized?

Lack of games in certain genres (jrpgs, sports games, music games, arcade racers)

Audiosurf and dirt are just as good as any console music game or arcade racer.

Poor resale value of games

Given, but that really isnt the fault of PCs

Zero trade-in value at gamestop/game crazy

Another given, but actually, most PC gamers keep their games and play them for years and years.

Games not designed for controller play / system menus still require m+k

Why the heck would we need controllers when we have mouse/kb? And if you need a controller, it doesnt disable your m/k. ALso there are many PC games that require flight-sticks and thus PC gamers have a far better selection than the mediocre MS/Sony hardware that is availible to consoles.

Lack of local multiplayer

Uh.... completely innacurate point there

Geeky persona, having a pc in your living room will not help you attract a female.

You can design a PC so it fits in your living room just fine. There are some amazing looking HTPC microATX cases available. If anything, the stereotype of a console gamer is a loudmouthed kid with no job who leeches off his parents to pay for his big TV and sound system. A PC gamer who builds a beautiful HTPC/Game system is likely educated and employed.Which is more likely to attract women?

If you need a gamesystem to attract women, you're Doin It Wrong.

Declining investment in exclusives by key companies

PC gamers don't rely on high profile companies with huge budgets to make us great games.

Game selection is disproportionately mmorpg/rts/casual.

You are very much misinformed.

Oh,another thing,I also love how in defense of compatibility questions,we get a response like "If you're using a 56LV000 on a Core1,you deserve to be shot."As if anyone actually knows stuff like that.:roll:Well,besides the poster,anyway.

i would rather have my comp, then my 360 or PS3.

As a consolite, to use the term, I just have to laugh at the other non-PC gamers who just fell on their face with all the lies and misconceptions. I think about the best justification you can have for a gaming platform is "I enjoy it", and that is all you need. No need to put down other platforms, no need to try making up lies about other platforms. Play on what you like, and let everyone else do the same.

Oh,another thing,I also love how in defense of compatibility questions,we get a response like "If you're using a 56LV000 on a Core1,you deserve to be shot."As if anyone actually knows stuff like that.:roll:Well,besides the poster,anyway.

789shadow

[QUOTE="dispator"] How old are you my child?? LoL mah PS3 is tha chick magnet,My gf likes my Wii motion sensor really senses,xbox360 iz zo seksy gets my wife wet also your other "negative aspects" are very similar in relevance to this one dc337

Laugh all you want but to girls:

Tricked out gaming pc = geeky

Keyboard and mouse on coffee table = geeky

Your NzxT Nemesis case: Gawdy and uber geeky.

Good lord get an antec at least. And to think you believe it is no big deal. Wow.

lol I'm applying to become a Police Officer, I attend Uni for Political Science, I drive a 2004 Grand Prix GT, I earn $40,000 a year whilst attending school, I row, play soccer, play rugby, played Lacrosse and I own a gaming PC... I'm fine for women, trust me

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Oh,another thing,I also love how in defense of compatibility questions,we get a response like "If you're using a 56LV000 on a Core1,you deserve to be shot."As if anyone actually knows stuff like that.:roll:Well,besides the poster,anyway.

Aljosa23

That's not what I meant.My point was that stuff gets thrown around in this thread like it's common knowledge.It's quite obvious that a Gamecube can't run Wii games,but how is anyone but serious tech experts supposed to know stuff like my example???

[QUOTE="dispator"] How old are you my child?? LoL mah PS3 is tha chick magnet,My gf likes my Wii motion sensor really senses,xbox360 iz zo seksy gets my wife wet also your other "negative aspects" are very similar in relevance to this one dc337

Laugh all you want but to girls:

Tricked out gaming pc = geeky

Keyboard and mouse on coffee table = geeky

Your NzxT Nemesis case: Gawdy and uber geeky.

Good lord get an antec at least. And to think you believe it is no big deal. Wow.

That's not what I meant.My point was that stuff gets thrown around in this thread like it's common knowledge.It's quite obvious that a Gamecube can't run Wii games,but how is anyone but serious tech experts supposed to know stuff like my example???789shadow

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Oh,another thing,I also love how in defense of compatibility questions,we get a response like "If you're using a 56LV000 on a Core1,you deserve to be shot."As if anyone actually knows stuff like that.:roll:Well,besides the poster,anyway.

789shadow

That's not what I meant.My point was that stuff gets thrown around in this thread like it's common knowledge.It's quite obvious that a Gamecube can't run Wii games,but how is anyone but serious tech experts supposed to know stuff like my example???

I feel pity someone who tries to run Crysis on an eMachine. It's their own fault for not reading up on it.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

But yet my PC does everything better than the PS3.

Oh, did I mention the games are better? :shock:

Aljosa23

It is one thing to like pc gaming but describing it as the end-all of gaming is just plain silly.

I have 2 Wired 360 controllers and 4 USB inputs on my PC, so yeah you understand. :D

On top of that, I'm pretty sure SFIV will release on PC with the extra content free, that you consolites pay for. :D

[QUOTE="dispator"] How old are you my child?? LoL mah PS3 is tha chick magnet,My gf likes my Wii motion sensor really senses,xbox360 iz zo seksy gets my wife wet also your other "negative aspects" are very similar in relevance to this one dc337

Laugh all you want but to girls:

Tricked out gaming pc = geeky

Keyboard and mouse on coffee table = geeky

Your NzxT Nemesis case: Gawdy and uber geeky.

Good lord get an antec at least. And to think you believe it is no big deal. Wow.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="dispator"] How old are you my child?? LoL mah PS3 is tha chick magnet,My gf likes my Wii motion sensor really senses,xbox360 iz zo seksy gets my wife wet also your other "negative aspects" are very similar in relevance to this one AAllxxjjnn

Laugh all you want but to girls:

Tricked out gaming pc = geeky

Keyboard and mouse on coffee table = geeky

Your NzxT Nemesis case: Gawdy and uber geeky.

Good lord get an antec at least. And to think you believe it is no big deal. Wow.

To say the least. I mean my ex played every sport under the sun but still loved to play PS2

ok what are u on right now a pc or laptop why not play games on there too ????

There's a little label on every PC game box that lists the minimum specs...

I feel pity someone who tries to run Crysis on an eMachine. It's their own fault for not reading up on it.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]There's a little label on every PC game box that lists the minimum specs...

I feel pity someone who tries to run Crysis on an eMachine. It's their own fault for not reading up on it.

dc337

meh basic knowledge that you can pick up with 5 minutes of reading