PC gamers make me sick to my stumach

don't get me wrong, Iam a PCgamer in heart ( if you look @ my Xfire, you only see arround 10% of the games I played, since I never use Xfire)

but, Crysis have been leaked, and all you see on the Crysis board is that everybody is saying how far they are with downloading it

really makes me sad

I know Console games can be downloaded to, but not in the numbers of PC gaming

And you know what makes me sick??? That they charge $50 for new PC games and $65 for New PS3/Xbox360 games. If they where cheaper don't you think that most people who download them would buy the original copy insted?? I surly think so!

But Piracy is something you can't go around....there are too many people in it. How was Crysis leaked??? Someone who works there did it....so don't blame the people who download it.....blame the people who put it on the server.

If they put someting in front of you and they say is free you will refuse to take it???

Be honest....you would download it too if you know how.

Unless you are ultrarich!!

And if you say that you are a PC gamer you must have played at least one downloaded game!!

i would do that, but i have already downloaded way to many things on my pc, might get busted if i keep it upshadow_hosi

here in canada, thats all legal. As long as I dont profit from it of course.

Actually the majority of the people in that forum are saying the exact same thing you are............trix5817

Which is why half-Life 2 has sold so well, steam stops people from ripping off valve.

i would do that, but i have already downloaded way to many things on my pc, might get busted if i keep it upshadow_hosi

No one will bust you if you just have one copy and you are not selling it! Also there are too many people downloading stuff from the net!

I got Gears of War....paid $53 for the damn game and it keeps crashing. If I where to download it insted and try it I would have know about the issue and won't spent that money....it's $53 wasted....there is no fix for it and I'm not the only one that has the same issue. There are many other people. Go to the Epic forums. So do you think it's fair to ask $49.99 for games like these??? I think if games where like $29.99 piracy would decrease....but it won't end!! It will never end! There are people who refuse to give a dime for any game. I spent a fortune on my PS3 collection....always got the games when they came out. I have 28games as of today....multiply this by $65. I have 50 Blu-ray movies....multiply this by an avrage of $28. Look how much money I spent.....and If I would have gotten those for free how much would I have saved....or just half price...for $29 games....and $19 for the movies....there will be so much more people buying them.

But maybe it's just me who thinks that way.....

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]i would do that, but i have already downloaded way to many things on my pc, might get busted if i keep it upkevy619

here in canada, thats all legal. As long as I dont profit from it of course.

It's the same everywhere. If you only posess one copy you can't be charged! Notice that in warning it sais..."reproduction and destribution"

Here have some pepto bismol.

[QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]i would do that, but i have already downloaded way to many things on my pc, might get busted if i keep it upNathanDrake

here in canada, thats all legal. As long as I dont profit from it of course.

It's the same everywhere. If you only posess one copy you can't be charged! Notice that in warning it sais..."reproduction and destribution"

we can even do that here in canada. In the states people get sued for downloading mp3s lol. In europe you're not even allowed to make copies of your own cds :(

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

JPOBS

true, but why pc game? Most of the best pc games come to console at some point.

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

JPOBS

[QUOTE="NathanDrake"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]i would do that, but i have already downloaded way to many things on my pc, might get busted if i keep it upkevy619

here in canada, thats all legal. As long as I dont profit from it of course.

It's the same everywhere. If you only posess one copy you can't be charged! Notice that in warning it sais..."reproduction and destribution"

we can even do that here in canada. In the states people get sued for downloading mp3s lol. In europe you're not even allowed to make copies of your own cds :(

Is that so??? I'm from Europe and I bearly know anyone there that has even one original CD or game. Most people download them from the net...and share them with their friends.

Also I known people who had copied PS1 games back in the day. I even remember Police busting in their home...it was on TV but they only owned one copy of each so they couldn't do anything to them.

I think it's fair.....these videogame companies charge too much money for their games(I'm not saying that they don't deserv the money) but it's too much!! Imagine if they ask for less....piracy would decrease. everyone likes an original copy more than a pirated one but to most of the WORLDs population these things are too expenisve!

A great example is the Wii....look how great is doing. And it's not because of its games. It's because of it's god damn price. You can say what you want but if the PS3 or Xbox 360 would be at the same pricepoint the Wii won't be so popular as it is now.

Sam goes here....if prices ar lower more people buy....if prices are high people don't buy.

You always get more costumers when you have a sale in your store than when you are selling at regular price....it's common sence! And you make more money way faster douring the sale!

Pirating is much harder than it was before.

Anyone remembers the old days? You could just copy the game on a floppy or casette and give it your friends.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

Vandalvideo

The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.Cali3350

Pirating is much harder than it was before.

Anyone remembers C64 days? You could just copy the game on a floppy or casette and give it your friends.

RK-Mara

PS1 days??? Copy a CD took like 15 minutes or less and you gave it to your friend....

The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.Cali3350

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

JPOBS

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

JPOBS

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.smokeydabear076

I think the Playstation 2 sais helo here!! There isn't any console that's more pirated than that one!

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.kevy619

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

smokeydabear076

But it isnt always breaking the law. Some countries have different laws.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

Yea, PC gaming has been the home of way too much piracy.

Talk about killing the industry. Thats proably why most of the big pc FPS's come to console, so the devs can make a few bucks.

Vandalvideo

I cant prove they dont still buy the game, but i can assume with great certainty that, if they pirated the whole game, they would have less incentive to buy the game upon release than had they waited in the first place.

And heres a question ofr you: If you already have a good computer, and financial security, why would you opt for buying a game as opposed to just downloading it for free? Not all pirates are poor unfortuante souls.

But it isnt always breaking the law. Some countries have different laws.

kevy619

[QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.Cali3350

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

Not very many, all things considered. Compare the pc top sellers to the ps2 top sellers, also note how important a timed exclusive series was to the ps2 (GTA).

Pirating because you cant afford it doesnt make it right. And if you cant afford games maybe gaming isnt the hobby for you. Spending thousands on a super computer is not an excuse for illegal downloading games. I cant prove they dont still buy the game, but i can assume with great certainty that, if they pirated the whole game, they would have less incentive to buy the game upon release than had they waited in the first place.JPOBS

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Pirating because you cant afford it doesnt make it right. And if you cant afford games maybe gaming isnt the hobby for you. Spending thousands on a super computer is not an excuse for illegal downloading games. I cant prove they dont still buy the game, but i can assume with great certainty that, if they pirated the whole game, they would have less incentive to buy the game upon release than had they waited in the first place.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.kevy619

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

Not very many, all things considered.

Plenty actually. This whole idea that PC games dont sell is rediculous. In the last 3 years the PC has 4 games that sold over 10 million.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]Pirating because you cant afford it doesnt make it right. And if you cant afford games maybe gaming isnt the hobby for you. Spending thousands on a super computer is not an excuse for illegal downloading games. I cant prove they dont still buy the game, but i can assume with great certainty that, if they pirated the whole game, they would have less incentive to buy the game upon release than had they waited in the first place.Vandalvideo

Technically the legality of it is up for debate. The Digital Millenium CopyWrite Act is NOT clear on such cases, and a few that have gone to legal action were awarded in the defenses favor.

[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.Cali3350

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

Not very many, all things considered.

Plenty actually. This whole idea that PC games dont sell is rediculous. In the last 3 years the PC has 4 games that sold over 10 million.

lol compare that to the ps2, plus where have you got those numbers from? GTA San Andreas just broke the 20 million sold mark.

lol compare that to the ps2, plus where have you got those numbers from? GTA San Andreas just broke the 20 million sold mark.

kevy619

[QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.kevy619

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

Not very many, all things considered.

Plenty actually. This whole idea that PC games dont sell is rediculous. In the last 3 years the PC has 4 games that sold over 10 million.

lol compare that to the ps2, plus where have you got those numbers from? GTA San Andreas just broke the 20 million sold mark.

While i cant comment directly on PS2 sales, a Wikipedia entry shows it at...4. Just like the PC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_video_games#PlayStation_2

[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.Cali3350

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

Not very many, all things considered.

Plenty actually. This whole idea that PC games dont sell is rediculous. In the last 3 years the PC has 4 games that sold over 10 million.

lol compare that to the ps2, plus where have you got those numbers from? GTA San Andreas just broke the 20 million sold mark.

While i cant comment directly on PS2 sales, a Wikipedia entry shows it at...4. Just like the PC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_video_games#PlayStation_2

and pc has two according to that same source... And thats all time sales.

[QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.kevy619

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

Not very many, all things considered.

Plenty actually. This whole idea that PC games dont sell is rediculous. In the last 3 years the PC has 4 games that sold over 10 million.

lol compare that to the ps2, plus where have you got those numbers from? GTA San Andreas just broke the 20 million sold mark.

While i cant comment directly on PS2 sales, a Wikipedia entry shows it at...4. Just like the PC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_video_games#PlayStation_2

and pc has two according to that same source... And thats all time sales.

3 actually, as for WOW it has subscribers listed, not game sales. One less then PS2. Such horror! More then either GC or Xbox too.

While it is all time sales all 3 of those games came out during the last gen consoles lifetimes.

[QUOTE="kevy619"]

lol compare that to the ps2, plus where have you got those numbers from? GTA San Andreas just broke the 20 million sold mark.

smokeydabear076

pretty much, combined the xbox and pc versions might have sold one million...

[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]The 360 is the most pirated console since the original Playstation. Hell, if you read a certain thread on this very forums front page youll see more then one person admitting to downloading Assasins Creed.Cali3350

And yet 360 software sales are through the roof.

You act like PC games dont have many multimillion sellers :|

Not very many, all things considered.

Plenty actually. This whole idea that PC games dont sell is rediculous. In the last 3 years the PC has 4 games that sold over 10 million.

lol compare that to the ps2, plus where have you got those numbers from? GTA San Andreas just broke the 20 million sold mark.

While i cant comment directly on PS2 sales, a Wikipedia entry shows it at...4. Just like the PC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_video_games#PlayStation_2

and pc has two according to that same source... And thats all time sales.

3 actually, as for WOW it has subscribers listed, not game sales. One less then PS2. Such horror! More then either GC or Xbox too.

While it is all time sales all 3 of those games came out during the last gen consoles lifetimes.

Even so, you cant pirate WOW. And it could be argued that people who buy the sims games dont even know how to pirate.