PC gaming is stronger than ever and will continue to grow as people realize how redundant the consoles are and make the shift to quality gaming on PC. Sony admitted they released the Pro as an attempt to keep gamers from leaving to PC and Microsoft has embraced PC with their Play Anywhere initiative. Things are looking good. :)
PC gaming dominates in China.
Nice. PC can't be stopped, even globally!
Holy COW! PC is objectively beating every other system (unless by some miracle PS4 makes up 90% of that 29%)! First place BY A LAND SLIDE! Man I've always said PC is the best gaming system each gen out of the big 4, but now I have HARD DATA.
Thanks for that pro-PC pic, I'm gonna use it in the future! Not many people come to my aid at this site, so I'm grateful for that.
Most gamers i know own both. They have survived together for over 30 years so any moron who thinks either will die anytime soon is clueless.
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
Most gamers i know own both. They have survived together for over 30 years so any moron who thinks either will die anytime soon is clueless.
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
Most gamers i know own both. They have survived together for over 30 years so any moron who thinks either will die anytime soon is clueless.
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
gotta love them subjective "facts", here i have one :
Fact is per the whole world and not just GS If you love cinematic cutscene heavy linear 3rd person action adventure games with stealth elements and not much else then consoles are perfect, for everything else you need a PC :D
Most gamers i know own both. They have survived together for over 30 years so any moron who thinks either will die anytime soon is clueless.
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
@blue_hazy_basic: Ive posted on this bored longer then most. And its mostly PC gamers creating a false narrative.
Your a troll I can't count how any times the master race has debunked the lies of the peasants here. Peasants will say anything to put their console of choice in a better light vs the almighty pc.
Most gamers i know own both. They have survived together for over 30 years so any moron who thinks either will die anytime soon is clueless.
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
my point exactly, no 10/10 AAAE exclusives or a recently excluive GOTY on PC since the history of GS.
I wouldnt wave by to PC gaming though it deserves to stick around, its just PC doesn't get the best games the industry has to offer like consoles.
@no-scope-AK47: Im a troll? You just called a group of sad nerds the Master Race? The fact is i see far more threads by pc gamers saying how great PC gaming is as opposed to console gamers claming PC gaming is dying.
There is no such thing as "whats better" as its simply an opinion. My favorite genre is 3rd person action adventure fighting and for that consoles are better.
Yup, damn right I agree, Sony doesn't even have a single title in top 10 games on all times. And taht's from the 8th gen console leader. Console gaming has to die.
@Heil68 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@Heil68 said:
@blue_hazy_basic said:
@Quicksilver128 said:
Most gamers i know own both. They have survived together for over 30 years so any moron who thinks either will die anytime soon is clueless.
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
my point exactly, no 10/10 AAAE exclusives or a recently excluive GOTY on PC since the history of GS.
I wouldnt wave by to PC gaming though it deserves to stick around, its just PC doesn't get the best games the industry has to offer like consoles.
Yup, damn right I agree, Sony doesn't even have a single title in top 10 games on all times. And taht's from the 8th gen console leader. Console gaming has to die.
@Heil68 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@Heil68 said:
@blue_hazy_basic said:
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
my point exactly, no 10/10 AAAE exclusives or a recently excluive GOTY on PC since the history of GS.
I wouldnt wave by to PC gaming though it deserves to stick around, its just PC doesn't get the best games the industry has to offer like consoles.
Most gamers i know own both. They have survived together for over 30 years so any moron who thinks either will die anytime soon is clueless.
If you've posted on this board for any time you've seen all the strawmans that the consolite crowd have tried to build.
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
This is the most wrong statement I've ever read on GS Forums.
I love all my consoles and their exclusives, but not as much as my PC. And it's reflected in the amount of titles I own for each.
@Micropixel: The amount of titles YOU own reflects your opinion and knowone else.
So what objective form of determining do YOU use for what your subjective opinion of best is? Sales? Player base? An average of a couple of more people's opinion?
Yup, damn right I agree, Sony doesn't even have a single title in top 10 games on all times. And taht's from the 8th gen console leader. Console gaming has to die.
@Heil68 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@Heil68 said:
as well as hermits. :)
Facts as per GS is consoles have the best games the industry has to offer, the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the coveted of all games and they are not available on PC. :D
my point exactly, no 10/10 AAAE exclusives or a recently excluive GOTY on PC since the history of GS.
I wouldnt wave by to PC gaming though it deserves to stick around, its just PC doesn't get the best games the industry has to offer like consoles.
Actually you need to get to 53rd place before you run into a PS4 exclusive where you'll find The Last of Us Remastered (if a remastered game counts as an exclusive). For a true exclusive you're all the way down at 147th place for Uncharted 4, or you could call it equal 103rd place if you want.
@arunsunk: It comes down to the types of games you enjoy. Nobody could logically argue that PC gaming is better for me. Just like nobody could argue console gaming is better for anyone who enjoys RTS.
@arunsunk: It comes down to the types of games you enjoy. Nobody could logically argue that PC gaming is better for me. Just like nobody could argue console gaming is better for anyone who enjoys RTS.
Or Mobas, MMOs, etc.
Consoles may have the best games for you in some genres/subgenres but that in no way means they are the most coveted of all games.
PC gaming is stronger than ever and will continue to grow as people realize how redundant the consoles are and make the shift to quality gaming on PC. Sony admitted they released the Pro as an attempt to keep gamers from leaving to PC and Microsoft has embraced PC with their Play Anywhere initiative. Things are looking good. :)
The above graph was also in JPR's most recent report.
This study is with-in the stagnation and the decline of the overall picture of PCs. The inclusion of Accessories & Peripherals just boost overall numbers.
The above graph was also in JPR's most recent report.
This study is with-in the stagnation and the decline of the overall picture of PCs. The inclusion of Accessories & Peripherals just boost overall numbers.
Oh wow, fewer people are buying pre-built PCs and yet the AIBs (add-in boards (AIBs)(ie: discrete GPUs)) are rising.
Thanks for demonstrating that PC gaming is on the rise.
Not many people buying a PC for gaming purchase a pre-built PC. The internet has got the word out that you're overpaying and backing yourself into a corner if you do so.
Next worthless infographic, Crnaler, but first, let's examine another infographic not stripped of context from JPR:
JPR Notes Huge Increase in Enthusiast AIBs for 2015
Yup, damn right I agree, Sony doesn't even have a single title in top 10 games on all times. And taht's from the 8th gen console leader. Console gaming has to die.
@Heil68 said:
my point exactly, no 10/10 AAAE exclusives or a recently excluive GOTY on PC since the history of GS.
I wouldnt wave by to PC gaming though it deserves to stick around, its just PC doesn't get the best games the industry has to offer like consoles.
Actually you need to get to 53rd place before you run into a PS4 exclusive where you'll find The Last of Us Remastered (if a remastered game counts as an exclusive). For a true exclusive you're all the way down at 147th place for Uncharted 4, or you could call it equal 103rd place if you want.
@arunsunk: It comes down to the types of games you enjoy. Nobody could logically argue that PC gaming is better for me. Just like nobody could argue console gaming is better for anyone who enjoys RTS.
Or Mobas, MMOs, etc.
Consoles may have the best games for you in some genres/subgenres but that in no way means they are the most coveted of all games.
The problem is media is mostly focused on consoles, because they are getting indirectly paid by them through adds etc. Which attracts mostly console gamer crowd. Which makes it more a kind of vicious circle solution as they call it here. Which means more of the same kind of people move into one spot and other people that have nothing in common with it start to leave.
A good example of this is ng community, the moment your opinion doesn't align up with that of them you will get banned which result in a hive mind of the same thinking people that projects themselves completely out of reality as there is no counter argument coming at any time.
There is also early access on gaming and events that basically is pure bribing going on in the game review sector. You are to critic about our game? no invite = you fall behind the other outlets. So you better say something good about our product or else.
The above graph was also in JPR's most recent report.
This study is with-in the stagnation and the decline of the overall picture of PCs. The inclusion of Accessories & Peripherals just boost overall numbers.
Oh wow, fewer people are buying pre-built PCs and yet the AIBs (add-in boards (AIBs)(ie: discrete GPUs)) are rising.
Thanks for demonstrating that PC gaming is on the rise.
Not many people buying a PC for gaming purchase a pre-built PC. The internet has got the word out that you're overpaying and backing yourself into a corner if you do so.
Next worthless infographic, Crnaler, but first, let's examine another infographic not stripped of context from JPR:
JPR Notes Huge Increase in Enthusiast AIBs for 2015
Your JPR source is older than my posted JPR graph. If you want to talk about the context for my posted graph, refer to http://jonpeddie.com/publications/add-in-board-report.
Your https://www.pcper.com/category/tags/aib link is an interpretation from an older JPR source.
Your JPR source is older than my posted JPR graph. If you want to talk about the context for my posted graph, refer to http://jonpeddie.com/publications/add-in-board-report.
Your https://www.pcper.com/category/tags/aib link is an interpretation from an older JPR source.
"If anyone doubted that the PC was the platform of choice for gaming, this quarter’s results will correct that incorrect misconception. The gaming market is lifting the entire PC market and has over whelmed the console market."
Your JPR source is older than my posted JPR graph. If you want to talk about the context for my posted graph, refer to http://jonpeddie.com/publications/add-in-board-report.
Your https://www.pcper.com/category/tags/aib link is an interpretation from an older JPR source.
"If anyone doubted that the PC was the platform of choice for gaming, this quarter’s results will correct that incorrect misconception. The gaming market is lifting the entire PC market and has over whelmed the console market."
Yup, damn right I agree, Sony doesn't even have a single title in top 10 games on all times. And taht's from the 8th gen console leader. Console gaming has to die.
@Heil68 said:
my point exactly, no 10/10 AAAE exclusives or a recently excluive GOTY on PC since the history of GS.
I wouldnt wave by to PC gaming though it deserves to stick around, its just PC doesn't get the best games the industry has to offer like consoles.
Actually you need to get to 53rd place before you run into a PS4 exclusive where you'll find The Last of Us Remastered (if a remastered game counts as an exclusive). For a true exclusive you're all the way down at 147th place for Uncharted 4, or you could call it equal 103rd place if you want.
Yup, damn right I agree, Sony doesn't even have a single title in top 10 games on all times. And taht's from the 8th gen console leader. Console gaming has to die.
Actually you need to get to 53rd place before you run into a PS4 exclusive where you'll find The Last of Us Remastered (if a remastered game counts as an exclusive). For a true exclusive you're all the way down at 147th place for Uncharted 4, or you could call it equal 103rd place if you want.
@Gatygun: You pretty much nailed it. Their was eurogamer article recently where an indie dev stated in an email about basically blacklisting review sites if they got very negative feedback. Publishers have been doing this stuff for a while, if I remember correctly DSOGaming had a piece about how they are blacklisted because of doing performance articles.
PC gaming is stronger than ever and will continue to grow as people realize how redundant the consoles are and make the shift to quality gaming on PC. Sony admitted they released the Pro as an attempt to keep gamers from leaving to PC and Microsoft has embraced PC with their Play Anywhere initiative. Things are looking good. :)
The above graph was also in JPR's most recent report.
This study is with-in the stagnation and the decline of the overall picture of PCs. The inclusion of Accessories & Peripherals just boost overall numbers.
PC add in boards seem to be doing just fine shipping ~10mil units quarterly like clockwork. What have consoles sold this past year? About 25 million from both the PS4 and XBox1 together for 2016?
As for the 'decline' in desktop PCs I won't even read JPR's take on anything concerning that as their last AMD-sponsored article was just atrocious. I will put my take on it though: With AMD not releasing anything significant for the performance segment in the past 4-5 years and Intel getting complacent with only incremental improvements as their is no competition (until Ryzen), there was bound to be a lull as people are less likely to have incentive to buy new or upgrade. Two years stagnation in the market is less about the decline of the PC and more about the problem introduced by the lack of AMD products.
A second take on this is the Windows 10 free upgrade occurred during the time line shown as opposed to the older practice of people building a new system with the new OS or buying premade.
Those are two significant occurrences that if you choose either one or both you get an explanation for the dip and as AIB numbers remained relatively constant it would seem the more plausible than the overall decline of the PC.
I would prefer numbers over their charts as JPR seems to have issues making them with any accuracy.
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