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#51 tehhousemastor
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only as dead as your $ex life
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#52 Biastedmando
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[QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

Just in case you thought I was BSing:

2055 servers....multiply accordingly. That's with the "has players" filter.

27099 servers.....no filters on that one. These are at 10:20 on a Monday night. I mean, come on.

Talk about /endthread.

cobrax75

Halo 3 has a bigger multiplayer base.

Numbers please.

Also, I need you to remind yourself of the premise of this thread: PC gaming is dead.

Ask yourself: is it? Did I not just end the thread?

739,625 Halo 3 Playersonline NOW.Heres the steam page, http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=stats&cc=US

739,625> 455,002!

Halo 3 just came out...of course it has a bigger amount of players at the moment...it wont be the same by this time next year at all...

it was your choice to bring numbers into this....so Ill just bring up WOW...with its 9.3 million subscribers...

or battle.net with 13 million individual users every day...

I can pull up numbers too.

WoW has 9.3 million subscribers great thats one game and its true it beats Xbox live but Battle.net is a combination of ALL Blizzard games.

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#53 ohioyankee
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what happened to 700,000 people

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#54 Biastedmando
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[QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Pathetic Console Fanboys and their theory 'PC Gaming is dead'

:lol: Sad little insecure FAILo fanboys eh?

cobrax75

FAILo?This game has a larger multiplayer community then your biggest online shooter Counterstrike AND Counterstrike Source!

it just came out....I can bring out WOW if I need to...

do you really want me too? it will destroy your entire numbers argument.

OK then Ill bring out the Mario sales numbers, completely destroying your counter towards my arguement.

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#55 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

Just in case you thought I was BSing:

2055 servers....multiply accordingly. That's with the "has players" filter.

27099 servers.....no filters on that one. These are at 10:20 on a Monday night. I mean, come on.

Talk about /endthread.

Biastedmando

Halo 3 has a bigger multiplayer base.

Numbers please.

Also, I need you to remind yourself of the premise of this thread: PC gaming is dead.

Ask yourself: is it? Did I not just end the thread?

739,625 Halo 3 Playersonline NOW.Heres the steam page, http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=stats&cc=US

739,625> 455,002!

Halo 3 just came out...of course it has a bigger amount of players at the moment...it wont be the same by this time next year at all...

it was your choice to bring numbers into this....so Ill just bring up WOW...with its 9.3 million subscribers...

or battle.net with 13 million individual users every day...

I can pull up numbers too.

WoW has 9.3 million subscribers great thats one game and its true it beats Xbox live but Battle.net is a combination of ALL Blizzard games.

It excludes WoW.

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#56 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Pathetic Console Fanboys and their theory 'PC Gaming is dead'

:lol: Sad little insecure FAILo fanboys eh?

Biastedmando

FAILo?This game has a larger multiplayer community then your biggest online shooter Counterstrike AND Counterstrike Source!

it just came out....I can bring out WOW if I need to...

do you really want me too? it will destroy your entire numbers argument.

OK then Ill bring out the Mario sales numbers, completely destroying your counter towards my arguement.

And he can bring WoW revenues, which destroy even the most popular Mario game :)

And...tell me..how much did Galaxy sell? Because Burning Crusade sold 2.4 million in the first 24H

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#57 Biastedmando
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LEMMINGS BROTHER UNITE, I am getting jumped!

NO EVERYMAN WITH CONSOLE HELP support my caused to destroy the almost dead species!

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#58 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Pathetic Console Fanboys and their theory 'PC Gaming is dead'

:lol: Sad little insecure FAILo fanboys eh?

Biastedmando

FAILo?This game has a larger multiplayer community then your biggest online shooter Counterstrike AND Counterstrike Source!

it just came out....I can bring out WOW if I need to...

do you really want me too? it will destroy your entire numbers argument.

OK then Ill bring out the Mario sales numbers, completely destroying your counter towards my arguement.

I didn't realize Mario was online.

And that Super Mario Bros wasn't a bundled game.

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#59 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

Just in case you thought I was BSing:

2055 servers....multiply accordingly. That's with the "has players" filter.

27099 servers.....no filters on that one. These are at 10:20 on a Monday night. I mean, come on.

Talk about /endthread.

Biastedmando

Halo 3 has a bigger multiplayer base.

Numbers please.

Also, I need you to remind yourself of the premise of this thread: PC gaming is dead.

Ask yourself: is it? Did I not just end the thread?

739,625 Halo 3 Playersonline NOW.Heres the steam page, http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=stats&cc=US

739,625> 455,002!

Halo 3 just came out...of course it has a bigger amount of players at the moment...it wont be the same by this time next year at all...

it was your choice to bring numbers into this....so Ill just bring up WOW...with its 9.3 million subscribers...

or battle.net with 13 million individual users every day...

I can pull up numbers too.

WoW has 9.3 million subscribers great thats one game and its true it beats Xbox live but Battle.net is a combination of ALL Blizzard games.

battle.net does not even include WOW....

to make matters worse for you...the newest battle.net game...is almost 7 years old....

battle.net only runs a few games.

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#60 karasill
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LEMMINGS BROTHER UNITE, I am getting jumped!

NO EVERYMAN WITH CONSOLE HELP support my caused to destroy the almost dead species!

Biastedmando
Pathetic. you've been owned with facts, just accept that PC gaming is far from dead and move on. Why argue when you know your own argument is full of holes and just isn't true?
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#61 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Pathetic Console Fanboys and their theory 'PC Gaming is dead'

:lol: Sad little insecure FAILo fanboys eh?

Biastedmando

FAILo?This game has a larger multiplayer community then your biggest online shooter Counterstrike AND Counterstrike Source!

it just came out....I can bring out WOW if I need to...

do you really want me too? it will destroy your entire numbers argument.

OK then Ill bring out the Mario sales numbers, completely destroying your counter towards my arguement.

I though we were talking about online communities?

but go ahead and bring up Mario...Ill just take the sims...which in one year the entire franchise sold 17 million..and thats just in one year.

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#62 Danm_999
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LEMMINGS BROTHER UNITE, I am getting jumped!

NO EVERYMAN WITH CONSOLE HELP support my caused to destroy the almost dead species!

Biastedmando

Almost dead?

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#63 Biastedmando
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ACTUALLY all your hermits points are irrelevant. Nobody is going to favor a videocard over a console, the days of the console is constantly rising and the keyboard and mouse is already irrelevant now in todays gaming conventions because the revolutionary Wiimote is going to prove superior (Metal of Honor).

Even if PC gamers refuse to withdraw their archaic game device, they can plug it on the 360 or PS3 that way so that they dont need to deal with upgrading or contacting Geeksquad.

Hermits are also losing their exclusives everybit as much as the consoles are losing theirs.

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#64 Biastedmando
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[QUOTE="Biastedmando"]

LEMMINGS BROTHER UNITE, I am getting jumped!

NO EVERYMAN WITH CONSOLE HELP support my caused to destroy the almost dead species!

Danm_999

Almost dead?

ONE poll in gamespot is not considereduniversal.

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#65 cobrax75
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ACTUALLY all your hermits points are irrelevant. Nobody is going to favor a videocard over a console, the days of the console is constantly rising and the keyboard and mouse is already irrelevant now in todays gaming conventions because the revolutionary Wiimote is going to prove superior (Metal of Honor).

Even if PC gamers refuse to withdraw their archaic game device, they can plug it on the 360 or PS3 that way so that they dont need to deal with upgrading or contacting Geeksquad.

Biastedmando

last I heard...Nvidia sells more Video cards in one quarter than Microsoft sells consoles in one year.

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#66 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"]

[QUOTE="Pajamasalad"]World of Warcraft says hello.Biastedmando

Sales mean bullcrapto a game's quality.Wii sports sold more, are you implying that Wii sports is better then World of Warcraft then?

Ok you are contradicting yourself saying that Halo 3 sold more than Crysis, and then saying that sales mean crap. You must be bi-polar or something.

And Wii sports did not sell more... Wow, I'm done replying in this thread.



Apperantly YOU CANT READ! "Sales mean bullcrap to a game's quality", that doesnt mean that sales in general mean crap. YOU ARE OWNED

I didn't say anything about game quality compared to sales... stop putting words in my mouth. I totally agree that Crysis is a much, much better game than Halo 3 even if it sold less.

And you're just digging yourself deeper into a hole, because unlike other fanboys, Hermits actually have logic to back them up.

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#67 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Biastedmando"]

LEMMINGS BROTHER UNITE, I am getting jumped!

NO EVERYMAN WITH CONSOLE HELP support my caused to destroy the almost dead species!

Biastedmando

Almost dead?

ONE poll in gamespot is not considereduniversal.

Fair enough.

Please post some evidence that PC gaming is almost dead around the world then.

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#68 3ggman
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what happened to 700,000 people

ohioyankee

/thread

Unless you can prove that in the last 30 minutes it has dropped about 500000 people, I advise you to shut the hell up Biastedmando. You're really making a fool out of yourself.

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#69 cobrax75
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what happened to 700,000 people

ohioyankee

Roflamo....

wow this almost too easy.

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#70 Danm_999
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Nobody is going to favor a videocard over a console,

Biastedmando

Oh really?

Tell me, how many consoles sold Q1 2007?

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#71 ho0p3r4life42
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Wow... This shows that PC gaming is not dead, because if this game was so great according to PC standards, then a lot of people would be playing it. However, many many people like other games more than this one. So all this shows is that the PC has a lot more games to offer than the consoles do because this game is much bigger on the consoles than it is on the PC.
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#72 drunken_end
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TC is getting owned so bad...I'm calling it a night.
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#73 Biastedmando
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TC is getting owned so bad...I'm calling it a night.drunken_end

Im calling it a night too, hermits just like to bring up fake charts and think irrationally. And ADD Halo 3's total sales number into that online population next time hermits, thats how i got my number.

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#74 amorbis1001
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well UT3 was launched under the belt, I didnt know it got launched until 1 day after :| wtf was epic thinking launching it with out a proper realease. or realease date.
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#75 karasill
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[QUOTE="drunken_end"]TC is getting owned so bad...I'm calling it a night.Biastedmando

Im calling it a night too, hermits just like to bring up fake charts and think irrationally. And ADD Halo 3's total sales number into that online population next time hermits, thats how i got my number.

Denial of a console fanboy. You just won't accept facts that you don't want to be true so you ignore it.
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#76 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="drunken_end"]TC is getting owned so bad...I'm calling it a night.Biastedmando

Im calling it a night too, hermits just like to bring up fake charts and think irrationally. And ADD Halo 3's total sales number into that online population next time hermits, thats how i got my number.

LOL Fake charts. Why would you add Halo 3's total sales? Everyone who bought Halo 3 doesn't play online. :roll:

Running away so soon? But we were just getting started on the appetizer.

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#77 MetroidPrimePwn
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[QUOTE="drunken_end"]TC is getting owned so bad...I'm calling it a night.Biastedmando

Im calling it a night too, hermits just like to bring up fake charts and think irrationally. And ADD Halo 3's total sales number into that online population next time hermits, thats how i got my number.

Dude, does this look like there are only 300 people playing Unreal Tournament 3 online?

All those player numbers, and that's only like 1/15th of the list.

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#78 ANZAC_RaGe
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LEMMINGS BROTHER UNITE, I am getting jumped!

NO EVERYMAN WITH CONSOLE HELP support my caused to destroy the almost dead species!

Biastedmando

Look I think its true that PC gaming is dying.

Not just PC gaming but the PC in general is dying.

Sorry

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#79 BK-Sleeper
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Now how many people are still playing World of Warcraft?
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#80 ANZAC_RaGe
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Now how many people are still playing World of Warcraft?BK-Sleeper

GROW UP

WOW gamers are the heroin addicts of the game world..... GET OFF THAT DAMN GAME. (It will own you and you life)

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#81 BK-Sleeper
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GROW UP

WOW gamers are the heroin addicts of the game world..... GET OFF THAT DAMN GAME. (It will own you and you life)

ANZAC_RaGe

I only played WoW for three months. It didn't hook me.

Now before you tell me to grow up, face the facts. More people play WoW than you can count, your PS3 will be useful for probably another year until someone else comes out that makes it crap, and PC Gaming won't die. If there wasn't PC Gaming, they wouldn't be consoles (at least not for long).

Listen to your mommy. It's past your bedtime.

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#82 TreetarD93
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[QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

cobrax75

Crysis is the hermits trump card, sure it scored a 9.5 but its practically guarantee'd that Halo 3 has sold at least TWICE as much. Whats up with the low sales hermits?

Halo 3 had far more advertisment.....of course its gonna sell more...If sales really dictate quality (which they dont), then the Sims would have long been the best game.


Ahhh...  the old "more advertising" bit...  im pretty sure everyone knew what Halo was before they started playing the Halo 3 commercials.  Halo got all of its sales from being a widely popular series, and a great game.  stop pulling this advertising crap.
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#83 MikeE21286
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wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

pminooei

World of Warcraft says hello.Pajamasalad

It's funny that people always use WoW.....You can play WoW on like a 5 (or more) year old PC.

WoW is not indicative of the health of the current PC gaming community by itself.

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#84 blizzboy
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[QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

MikeE21286

World of Warcraft says hello.Pajamasalad

It's funny that people always use WoW.....You can play WoW on like a 5 (or more) year old PC.

WoW is not indicative of the health of the current PC gaming community by itself.

sence when is people currently playing a game not considerd current?

just cus they dont have new computers dosent mean they arent pc gamers

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#85 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

blizzboy

World of Warcraft says hello.Pajamasalad

It's funny that people always use WoW.....You can play WoW on like a 5 (or more) year old PC.

WoW is not indicative of the health of the current PC gaming community by itself.

sence when is people currently playing a game not considerd current?

just cus they dont have new computers dosent mean they arent pc gamers

Yeah, but if they're playing on 5 year old computers are they really participating in current PC gaming releases? No.

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#86 MrSickVisionz
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Do you even have a basic understanding of how to think logically or how to form an argument?

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#87 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="blizzboy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

MikeE21286

World of Warcraft says hello.Pajamasalad

It's funny that people always use WoW.....You can play WoW on like a 5 (or more) year old PC.

WoW is not indicative of the health of the current PC gaming community by itself.

sence when is people currently playing a game not considerd current?

just cus they dont have new computers dosent mean they arent pc gamers

Yeah, but if they're playing on 5 year old computers are they really participating in current PC gaming releases? No.

they support steam and most of them still buy new games, remember that there are tons of pc games out there, so yes they still suport pc gaming

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#88 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="blizzboy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

Mizarus

World of Warcraft says hello.Pajamasalad

It's funny that people always use WoW.....You can play WoW on like a 5 (or more) year old PC.

WoW is not indicative of the health of the current PC gaming community by itself.

sence when is people currently playing a game not considerd current?

just cus they dont have new computers dosent mean they arent pc gamers

Yeah, but if they're playing on 5 year old computers are they really participating in current PC gaming releases? No.

they support steam and most of them still buy new games, remember that there are tons of pc games out there, so yes they still suport pc gaming

Steam is part of WoW?

Either that's new or you're wrong...

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#89 t3hTwinky
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Sigh.

Paint chips are not for eating, TC.

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#90 Shomb22
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Unreal Tournament 3 only has 300 people online at once. Congrats, PC owners you get to play with the lowest populated online community!

werent hermits hyping this game?

Biastedmando

Yes! Can anyone tell me what online game gets hardley anyone? I want to try that out. It should be a fun experiance.

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#91 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="blizzboy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

MikeE21286

World of Warcraft says hello.Pajamasalad

It's funny that people always use WoW.....You can play WoW on like a 5 (or more) year old PC.

WoW is not indicative of the health of the current PC gaming community by itself.

sence when is people currently playing a game not considerd current?

just cus they dont have new computers dosent mean they arent pc gamers

Yeah, but if they're playing on 5 year old computers are they really participating in current PC gaming releases? No.

they support steam and most of them still buy new games, remember that there are tons of pc games out there, so yes they still suport pc gaming

Steam is part of WoW?

Either that's new or you're wrong...

5 year old pc can play counterstike,halflife, and most of steam games, it can also play wow and many other games that have huge comunitys, if the game is still being played, and its popular they are suporting the plataform, since it will help developers to develop new games(duh) where do you think blizzard is getting the money to develop both the wrath of lich king and starcraft 2+upcoming expansion(we all know blizz is going to have a expansion for sc2) also valvle and TF2+Portal and ep2. the money came from those "old" games that you claim dont suport gaming,(remember that wow has a monthly fee and that even tho some people that play wow have 6year old pc some will have a high end rig as well you cant generalise)

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#92 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

Biastedmando

Crysis is the hermits trump card, sure it scored a 9.5 but its practically guarantee'd that Halo 3 has sold at least TWICE as much. Whats up with the low sales hermits?

Oh yea ... sales? Burning Crusade has outsold your precious Halo 3 and its "just an expansion" :lol:

Over 2 million on day 1 aswell.

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#93 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Biastedmando"]

Unreal Tournament 3 only has 300 people online at once. Congrats, PC owners you get to play with the lowest populated online community!

werent hermits hyping this game?

Shomb22

Yes! Can anyone tell me what online game gets hardley anyone? I want to try that out. It should be a fun experiance.

Ut3 has a huge comunity as it has been proven with actual screenshots completly destroyng the TC argument, also Team Fortress 2 has a pretty big comunity for a new game, Cod4 seem to be going well, CS s, Warcraft 3 has a HUGE comunity, as do WoW and pretty much any blizzard game.

halo 3 has the biggest comunity for console games, so if you rather play on consoles id recomend that one even tho iam not a big fan of the game.

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#94 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Biastedmando"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

Meu2k7

Crysis is the hermits trump card, sure it scored a 9.5 but its practically guarantee'd that Halo 3 has sold at least TWICE as much. Whats up with the low sales hermits?

Oh yea ... sales? Burning Crusade has outsold your precious Halo 3 and its "just an expansion" :lol:

Over 2 million on day 1 aswell.

wait wait, i tought sales werent important to the tc, oO

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[QUOTE="drunken_end"]TC is getting owned so bad...I'm calling it a night.Biastedmando

Im calling it a night too, hermits just like to bring up fake charts and think irrationally. And ADD Halo 3's total sales number into that online population next time hermits, thats how i got my number.

So...you bassicaly just said that according to you UT3 sold only 300 copies. Because that's how you count online numbers. Really nice :D

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Yeah, is dead thats why im playing Crysis,UT3,TF2 online with so many people :roll:
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Unreal Tournament 3 only has 300 people online at once. Congrats, PC owners you get to play with the lowest populated online community!

werent hermits hyping this game?

Biastedmando

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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#98 Nikalai_88
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[QUOTE="blizzboy"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

wasnt' crysis released like a week ago? lol

oh and last time i check there are more ppl playing WOW than than PS3 sold lol so just proved your a fanboy :P

MikeE21286

World of Warcraft says hello.Pajamasalad

It's funny that people always use WoW.....You can play WoW on like a 5 (or more) year old PC.

WoW is not indicative of the health of the current PC gaming community by itself.

sence when is people currently playing a game not considerd current?

just cus they dont have new computers dosent mean they arent pc gamers

Yeah, but if they're playing on 5 year old computers are they really participating in current PC gaming releases? No.

You assume all PC games are like Crysis, personally my five year old computer runs Galactic Civilizations II: Dark Avatar (2007) and Warhammer 40K: Dark Crusade (2006) just fine. Depending on how good the next GCII expansion is I might instead pick up Europa Universalis III (2007) or Hearts of Iron 2 (2004?) I am also interested in a fun online RPG so I might pick up one of the Guil Wars games (2005-2007)

Now my computer is getting really old and my work laptop can't pull the FPS weight anymore so I will probably go down to Korea town and buy a new computer, but five years is a good lifespan, no? I mean the Xbox manged three or four?