PC gaming is great, sure. But it sometimes DOES come with unnecessary hassles.

You may know me as a hermit, but it's not like hermits don't have problem with any of their current games. If they say they don't, they're most likely lying. Anyway...

Arkham Asylum came to PC last week, and it's a really great game. My budget PC ran it on its max settings (aside from Phys X that's off) and I was getting fantastic framerates. Really, it didn't seem like there was any problem with the PC version, until this bomb dropped:

http://www.unigamesity.com/how-to-fix-batman-arkham-asylum-crashes-and-freezes/

Normally when your computer locks up and you're forced to restart it's becasue your system may have been overheating. My PC was just a little warm the last time AA locked up and restarted my PC. The problem is becasue if you have Realtek audio drivers/hardware, that's what's causing the defict. The only way you can keep playing without any crashes or lockups is if you mute the sound completely.

Great stuff, eh?

I know some people have managed to run it perfectly. Good for them, really. But I think it's pretty unfair that a select amount of users have to deal with something as silly as a sound issue that's big enough to heavily distort what is an awesome experience.

Now what I have to do is wait for Eidos to release a patch, fixing this issue. I can continue playing Red Faction Guerrilla while I wait for it to come, but it's really a bummer that this had to happen.

Go ahead my fellow hermits, prove me wrong on my own experiences. :P

I'm not going to argue with that because I think you're right.

There are times when you might encounter some frustrating problems that can hinder your experience with some games until you find a way to solve them. IMO it's just something you learn to live with and accept (to a certain degree of course) to have an overall superior (most of the times at least) experience on the PC. I believe nobody is denying that console gaming is easier and more straightforward but that's the whole point isn't it?

You may know me as a hermit, but it's not like hermits don't have problem with any of their current games. If they say they don't, they're most likely lying. Anyway...

Arkham Asylum came to PC last week, and it's a really great game. My budget PC ran it on its max settings (aside from Phys X that's off) and I was getting fantastic framerates. Really, it didn't seem like there was any problem with the PC version, until this bomb dropped:

http://www.unigamesity.com/how-to-fix-batman-arkham-asylum-crashes-and-freezes/

Normally when your computer locks up and you're forced to restart it's becasue your system may have been overheating. My PC was just a little warm the last time AA locked up and restarted my PC. The problem is becasue if you have Realtek audio drivers/hardware, that's what's causing the defict. The only way you can keep playing without any crashes or lockups is if you mute the sound completely.

Great stuff, eh?

I know some people have managed to run it perfectly. Good for them, really. But I think it's pretty unfair that a select amount of users have to deal with something as silly as a sound issue that's big enough to heavily distort what is an awesome experience.

Now what I have to do is wait for Eidos to release a patch, fixing this issue. I can continue playing Red Faction Guerrilla while I wait for it to come, but it's really a bummer that this had to happen.

Go ahead my fellow hermits, prove me wrong on my own experiences. :P

mo0ksi

That sux man. The PC port is done really well too. Do you have a stand alone sound card? I have realtek, but it's onboard. I haven't had a single problem yet. Hope they fix this soon for people though.

As much as I love PC's this is perhaps the one big problem. Hardware insconsistency across the board must be very very hard to debug.

Try actually buying a copy ;). I believe they added deliberate crashes.

Try actually buying a copy ;). I believe they added deliberate crashes.

1080pOnly

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Try actually buying a copy ;). I believe they added deliberate crashes.

Jandurin

Ahh that was it. Probably just drivers then or crappy on-board sound.

Try actually buying a copy ;). I believe they added deliberate crashes.

1080pOnly

If you excuse me, I have a long day of school to attend to. 9-6 FTL

Sure PC Gaming has its issues but lets not forget that the 360 has a 24% failure rate...that isn't even something you can fix yourself or anything...biggest_loser

Its not comparable, really.skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Its not comparable, really.Jandurin

You have a closed entertainment machine, and a open computer.

The options and capabilities of a computer are far beyond that of a console, its not designed for few purposes.

Being an open system with no single design purpose, means its prone to so many more issues.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]Its not comparable, really.skrat_01

Arkham Asylum was just released not even a week ago, give them time to patch it up and fix it. Trust me, once these games are fixed, they're 100% better than on console.

Arkham Asylum was just released, give them time to patch it up and fix it.

SidBenji

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] yes it isJandurin

Similar games, completely different systems.skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Similar games, completely different systems.Jandurin

A number of reasons. Resolution, PhysX, M/KB, AA/AF, graphics, framerate etc. Or he could only have access to a PC. There are fantastic benefits to PC gaming if you can stand the maintenance that comes with owning a PC.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Similar games, completely different systems.Jandurin

Why play it on the simple closed system, when you are accustomed to the above?

Ect.

Why play it on the simple closed system, when you are accustomed to the above?

skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Why play it on the simple closed system, when you are accustomed to the above?

Jandurin

With a platform as open as the PC, it's not surprising that some software clashes with others. Consoles are different due to the closed system.

I agree with much of your post, sometimes there are issues, but I enjoy solving them personally :D

why upgrade your computer for PC gaming, when you have your console, are are used too and happy with what it offers.

skrat_01

I really just comes down to how valuable my time is. I know its not a hassle, and it really isnt a big deal, but PC gaming is more time consuming, and honestly, I'm not trying to sound conceided, but I really value my time. When I get home from work, I just want to sit down and play the game as quickly as possible. I dont want to have to boot my pc, install the game, find the patches, etc, and add to that worry about maybe my system wont run it well. These are very minor gripes I know, because when I was in college, I was more of a PC gamer than a console gamer (HL2, CSS, BF2 WC3), and it was awesome. I will still play PC games that are exclusive to PC without a doubt, and some FPS must be played on a PC.

Also, none of my friends are PC gamers. Why, I dont know. So Xbox 360 or PS3 it has to be. And yes, the graphics are inferior. But honestly, for multiplats, normally its not that big of a difference (Batman AA was the first one where the differences really impressed me so maybe this will change). The graphics have reached a standard that I am fine with. A good looking game is a good looking game on 360, PS3or PC. I really dont care if the 360 has less AA or no Physx if it doesn't affect gameplay.

Every system has its pros and cons, and you really cannot fault the PC for much. It just depends on who you are. I have been a huge PC gamer, Ive built PCs, and overall it is by far the best gaming experience. You just have to put more work into it.

You may know me as a hermit, but it's not like hermits don't have problem with any of their current games. If they say they don't, they're most likely lying. Anyway...

Arkham Asylum came to PC last week, and it's a really great game. My budget PC ran it on its max settings (aside from Phys X that's off) and I was getting fantastic framerates. Really, it didn't seem like there was any problem with the PC version, until this bomb dropped:

http://www.unigamesity.com/how-to-fix-batman-arkham-asylum-crashes-and-freezes/

Normally when your computer locks up and you're forced to restart it's becasue your system may have been overheating. My PC was just a little warm the last time AA locked up and restarted my PC. The problem is becasue if you have Realtek audio drivers/hardware, that's what's causing the defict. The only way you can keep playing without any crashes or lockups is if you mute the sound completely.

Great stuff, eh?

I know some people have managed to run it perfectly. Good for them, really. But I think it's pretty unfair that a select amount of users have to deal with something as silly as a sound issue that's big enough to heavily distort what is an awesome experience.

Now what I have to do is wait for Eidos to release a patch, fixing this issue. I can continue playing Red Faction Guerrilla while I wait for it to come, but it's really a bummer that this had to happen.

Go ahead my fellow hermits, prove me wrong on my own experiences. :P

mo0ksi

ok how about youre in a minority. like you said a select amount of users. not most not all.

its no different than RROD or YLOD or glitches or anything like that.

its no different than RROD or YLOD or glitches or anything like that.

washd123

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its no different than RROD or YLOD or glitches or anything like that.

Jandurin

its an example of things that effect a small number of people. we wouldnt critize the consoles for those issues or over exaggerate them. so dont do it with pc games.

its an example of things that effect a small number of people. we wouldnt critize the consoles for those issues or over exaggerate them. so dont do it with pc games.

washd123

what? No. console problems are overexaggerated DAILY. and "things that effect a small number of people" Come on. Maybe PER GAME, but all told? Please.Jandurin

yes all told. the big issues usually only come up rarely and for a small number of people. most other issues are people being stupid ex people with sm2 cards trying to run bioshock and claiming it was broken

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Similar games, completely different systems.Jandurin

Maybe because some people like to get the most out of their games rather than settling for second best. I've said it before and i'll say it again, on a big, 1080p screen the 360 and the PS3 look rubbish compared to a PC running 1920x1080 (or higher on a monitor).

I've played them side by side on the same monitor. One run by a HD4890 and the other a 360. Not only does the PC look much better but is literally twice as smooth.

My advice, if you have a low end system or old hardware buy it for the console, pay much more for it and enjoy the inferior version without hassles (unless it scratches it or RROD's on you of course).

Ouch, thats VERY poor QA by Eidos. I used to be a Soundlaster man, but I've switched to the Realtek, since it produced great sound now and has a lot of options for digital effects, even re-balancing sound (Eve Online), and up-mastering crappy Stereo to 5.1. Many people use Realtek sound.

Too bad fools were posting in a thread yesterday that if you can't fix a PC game problem in 2 hours you must be an idiot. I'd like to see them write and compile some new sound drivers in C++ in 2 hours....lol.

Any PC gamer who argues against this must never play PC games.

Even with the most stable system ever, there are always going to be hassles. I burnt my graphic card out this summer and had to go replace it. The nice this was I was able to get a new one and the computer up and running in literally 4 hours. It still sucked.

Also upgrading graphic drivers and stuff on a regular basis can become a slight hassle but is usually always worth it.

i cant play Assassins Creed on DX10 with 64 bit version but even without it still looks better than consoles by far. And Assassins Creed could much better work with SLI like Lost Planet does. But think about if a console get bad ported, youre screwed. On PS3 for example crashes Assassins Creed. On PC and SLI you can nearly anything fix.

I've had both the two 360's I've had and the ps3 I own freeze on me too (ok, the ps3 has only over frozen in Fallout 3).

the pc has hassles theres no deneying it. some games have issues. its to be expected.

the thing is such as cases like this its a small number or people or user era exagerated to make it seem like if you game on a pc you will end up facing these problems all the time which is simply untrue.

Any PC gamer who argues against this must never play PC games.

Even with the most stable system ever, there are always going to be hassles. I burnt my graphic card out this summer and had to go replace it. The nice this was I was able to get a new one and the computer up and running in literally 4 hours. It still sucked.

Also upgrading graphic drivers and stuff on a regular basis can become a slight hassle but is usually always worth it.

Wasdie

As I always say there is a trade off, you trade some convenience for PC advantages. For example I just recently got myself a 1920x1200 screen, I can control whether I get 1080p quality resolutions in my games; were as consoles users cannot.

Some people encounter significant issues, most people get the odd issue every now and then and it isn't that big of a deal. Of course console users love to exaggerate when it comes PC gaming. Whether it is price, piracy or in this case bugs.