PC gaming, more generous?

Well, guess I can never play Insurgency again

@papatrop said:

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Yep.... All PC Gamers know this and all Console Fanboys shall remain Misinformed.

Let's ignore Blizzard games and League and focus on this one obscure PC title to prove how much more generous PC games are

AW has micro-transactions for power boosts? What type of boosts exactly and link to proof?

Several things:

1) It's not platform-specific, it's more of an indie developer trying to get on the good side of its consumers because it needs that word-of-mouth marketing. Insurgency has no huge marketing budget that will make the game known to general public, so it doesn't have the fanbase that's willing to invest a lot of money through DLC and stuff.

Some PC games with that existing fanbase milk the shit out of their customers. We can start with Train Simulator series. Paradox Big 4's. Total War. They have huge catalogue of DLCs that are not even comparable to a lot of console games.

2) Battlefield 2 (PC exclusive) already had a few expansion packs and booster packs, iirc. It was pretty much a retail version of DLC milking.

3) In fact, this whole DLC thing is the combination of MMO micro-transaction and expansion packs, which both started from PC gaming. And they still take advantage of that if it can.

Only somebody with the mental maturity of a 14 year old does this amout of shit posting. I swear to god, he makes 2-3 threads like this a day. Only people with mental problems do this.

Comparing a game that comes with multiplayer, bot multiplayer, survival and a campaign whose voiceovers alone probably cost more than Insurgency's entire budget......

lol consoles.

yes, because we know developers never ever charge money for extra content on PC

There are greedy devs on PC as well but overall it's cheaper and there is always a choice because it's not like you're stuck with one game for several months.

No.

It completely depends on the devs and publishers.

Has nothing to do with the PC specifically.

No one cares except you, Sniper.

Patching is free on PC, so it's rather inevitable that games generally receive better post-release support on PC.

Yeah, the new update is badass. I am loving the AK 74. Really recommend this Plastic AK 74 w/night sights mod: link I really don't like that new M4A1 they introduced though; it seems really inaccurate and weak; even with playing on the servers that do the whole 30 supply thing and equipping everything other than a stupid laser sight, the gun still seemed really weak to me compared to the MK18 or the AC556.

What games do you speak of?

valve games

CS Go launched at $30 and has no campaign with dated graphics and sound fx.

Left 4 Dead left a lot to be desired in the content dept. Relying on mods for more content doesn't let them off the hook.

I'm playing pc gaming right now and it's really wowing me.

Very impressive.

pretty sure CSGO on PC launched at $15

Anywho, this is about content updates and support

I beleive every update for CS: GO was free, with the option of buying it to host.

Much of the content as well is user generated, with profits going to go the average joe.

Valve are so forward thinking, incredible humans.

I was wrong it was $15, my bad. See, it's not hard for me to admit when I'm wrong, I don't start trolling and complaining about derailing. But still it has outdated graphics, sound fx and rehashed maps. It's basically a CSS facelift.

With Left 4 Dead it's basically, buy our half a game at full price and maybe we'll add more campaigns.

Well you're always trolling, so there's not really a need to "start"

When do I troll?

Like every time you post irrelevant shit that has little to do with the post you're actually quoting. Or when you accuse others of saying things they never did.

Kind of reminds me of some things another user did on these boards. I can't recall his name at the moment

The Witcher.
TF2.
Guild Wars 2.
Some good examples of tons of free content added on the PC.
I don't know of any such thing on consoles.

PC began the trend of mp only shooters at full pc game pricing. Quake 3, UT, BF 1 - 2142 as examples. Meanwhile console shooters like Gears of War 2 gave players sp, mp and survival modes. Then Activision, Naughty Dog and Bungie jumped on the content bandwagon by adding their own survival modes to CoD, Uncharted and Halo.

Yeah, it's so generous to use kickstarters and let you pay for alphas so you can get a head start over everyone else (if the game even releases). I don't blame them though as hermits don't buy games unless they cost close to nothing on humble bundle or steam sales.

The game has no progression system.

Do you even lift?

Oh, I thought this thread was about PC gaming.

Pc gaming is good.

changed rules to kickstarter

90% of games now have some content put on hold or removed for a later date so you can be paying for "extra content". how else would there be day one DLC and preorder crap spilling out of every game?

PC games are no different, maybe even worse when it comes to this practice nowadays. Neverwinter Nights games, early Elder Scrolls, and many others years ago got near whole game worth of content added through expansions and DLCs but now they add a few armor and weapon packs and maybe 3 hrs worth of quest and it's supposed to be enough to charge $20+ every time.

bro you wanna talk about monetization when all the most popular PC games are free 2 play? Pay for skins, pay for colors, pay for more space in inventory, pay for everything.

Herms always preaching about morality in their underwear and glass houses.

Or you could just avoid the free to play games like everyone else who isn't a casual, where as you're buying costumes and shit like that in normal games on consoles. Then you're left with shit loads of constant sales and low priced games on the PC. Where as the two teh powah consoles are designed to milk you.

Last gen I spent way too much on gaming with the X360, this gen I went PC and was surprised within a few months, I've have gotten more gaming content than I could possibly get through. Playstation and Xbox are ruining console gaming, they're the cancer of the industry. Too many disgusting practices are bleeding out into all areas of gaming. They're punishing you for being a gamer. 'You like that, we're gonna find ways to make you keep paying', that's what it's like with them.

Honestly this gen if you want to be treated with respect as a gamer, it's PC and the Wii U.

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Also I noticed that about the new CoD. £49.99 for the game and £34.99 for the season pass. £85 if you want the whole game. Activision punishing you for being a fan. It's such a fucking disgusting trend that started last gen. Capcom are unapologetic about it as are most of the big publishers now.

Mod'ing is the ultimate expression of free content and good mods can be as good as or even better than the original games. Counter Strike was a Half life mod, Day Z was an ArmA 2 mod the list goes on. With a lot of games there is never any real need to buy DLC as the mod'ing community will release loads of content.

This alone means that the PC gaming is more generous.

Freemium isn't free

Left 4 Dead has plenty of content and CSGO launched at 15 dollars and has received tons of free content post release. Also, if a 6 hour single player only game like Bioshock Infinite can justify a 60 dollar price tag, a mutliplayer only fps can too. Many of the greatest fps of all time, such as Unreal Tournament 99, UT2K4, Quake 3, and uh... I don't know maybe the original CS, are multiplayer only.

@chemstrike: So you're comparing a game from 2008 to games from the late 90s to the early 2000s. Also those games had a lot of content in mp compared to most mp games today. Even if they didn't have single player, they had like plenty of mp content to justify the price tag.

Canadian devil would agree.

Easily. PC gaming is just so much cheaper if you buy a lot of games/services. Console gamers are delusion to think otherwise.

It's basically a reskin with 8 new maps. It's only got 3-4 game modes and no campaign or coop. It's like a big dlc.

Left 4 Dead has about a 5 hour campaign and a couple of mp game modes. That's not a lot of content.

Bioshock Infinite take an average of 12 hours to beat. Check howlongtobeat.com if you want to verify. Still a ripoff I agree. I don't think anyone here said Bioshock Infinites launch price was justified.

One BF 4 map is the size of about 5 Quake 3 maps. Some Quake 3 maps are about the size of a base in BF.

What's wrong with comparing a game from 2008 to a late 90's game in regards to content? CoD AW's opening cutscene possibly cost more to produce than Quake 3.

It was $15, he is talking out of his ass.. Furthermore after release, Valve has continually supported the title.. As for Left 4 Dead, there was tons of content and replayability due to the game modes, campaigns, and the randomness that occurred sometimes.. Hell in Left 4 Dead 2, Valve randomly, with a huge FREE update, not only released a whole new campaign but fully ported over every campaign of the original L4D in the game.

Probably is. I remember playing CoD 4 on PC and having all the map packs included. When I went to a friend's house, he only had a couple maps and said he had to buy the rest for his console.

It's not SNIPER though, he's too busy posting stuff about dicks and zero contributions on lostrib's wall.

I'm pretty sure it is him. At any rate, he's just as worthless as Sniper, so really, what's the difference?