Pc Gaming Myth No.1; PC Gaming is Dying/Dead.

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"If you're a long-time PC gamer, you've heard it all before. Your favorite gaming platform is dying, and it's all about the consoles now. After all, gaming on the PC is too expensive. It's too complicated and unreliable. The sales just aren't there. All the cool games are on consoles. PCs are fine for World of Warcraft, but everything else is better played on a console, unless you're a diehard competitive first-person shooter nut.

Of course, PC enthusiasts know this isn't true. But the rest of the world is eating this FUD up, and it's creating a false impression that if you ignore the PC as a gaming platform, you're not missing anything"
- Jason Cross

Above is a quote, i was going to paraphrase to open this thread but i couldn't sat it better myself. I am a console gamer. I am also a PC gamer, and as such i am often privy to much that is held as fact by many of my peers about the PC as a system. This is the first is a series of threads i am going to bring to you (hopefully 10 in all) Giving my take on the Myths and false-hoods held here and in the wider world.

first of some more jason Cross from this article.


"First of all, NPD only tracks retail sales, and only in the U.S.. Yes, the U.S. has the strongest retail games market, but PC games are very popular worldwide. Especially in Europe, and Germany in particular, PC game sales top sales charts. Most importantly, the PC is well ahead of consoles in online game sales—which NPD does not track. Whether it's GameTap, Steam, Direct2Drive, TotalGaming.net, or even the direct download store at the EBgames site, buying games exclusively online is huge on PCs. And that doesn't even include things like recurring payments or digital item sales for online games like World of Warcraft. Research firm Strategy Analytics said that the global online games market generated over $3.8 billion in revenue in 2006, and is growing at over 25% per year. Yes, some of that is buying downloadable content on Xbox Live Arcade, Playstation Network, or Wii Virtual Console, but the money pulled in by those are a drop in the bucket, globally, to the online revenue generated by PC game sales"


These are by Mid 2007 figures but this is still as aplicable today as ever. PC games sales aee moving on-line and thus becoming harder to track. NPD does not even stack the reatail sales it can get for PC games up against the consoles so this creats a data hole in which myths can develop. Even in just retail though the PC and still holds its own.


"Sales tracking firm NPD said there were "over $970 million" in PC game sales, and $7.4 billion in total game sales. So, roughly a billion in sales for the PC, and $6.4 billion for consoles. Consoles are slaughtering PCs, right? Actually, it's not that simple.

First of all, it's a stacked deck. The PC is one platform, the Xbox 360 is one platform, the PlayStation 3 is one platform, the Nintendo DS is one platform, etc. If you make a game for the PS3, it doesn't magically run on the 360 any more than it magically runs on the PC. PC game sales as tracked by NPD are being beat over 6:1 by the combination of all console platforms. Of course it is! NPD did not provide a breakdown by platform (except for the PC), though. Divvy up that $6.4 billion in console sales into its respective separate platforms: Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS, and PSP. There are at least nine major "console" platforms, each as incomparable to each other as the PC is to consoles, contributing to that $6.4 billion in sales. If the distribution were even (and it's not), you'd have about $711 million per console platform.

Unfortunately, nobody is yet providing the kind of apples-to-apples data that lets us get a true picture of PC game sales. Take that "over $970 million" sales of PC games from NPD. That's just retail and just the U.S. Nobody is tracking online game sales for just the U.S. in a reasonably comprehensive way. Or if they are, they're not proving data, breaking it down by platform and by game sales & addons vs. recurring subscription fees. I don't think it's a stretch to say that several hundred million dollars worth of games & addons have happened online in the U.S"


As i more recent example i think none is better than the Sims 3, acording to EA the game sold over 1.4 million units in it's first month; does that sound like a dying platfrom to you?



So that's software sorted but what about hardware? There is an estimate that there
may be as many as 1 billion PC users world-wide. And there have been nearly 1 billion downloads of FireFox. This is a STAGGERING Install Base nut not all of these are Gaming PCs right? Well yes but there are also significant numbers of them out there.

"Publicly available data from reports by Jon Peddie Research published in articles such as this one and this one provides us with sufficient information to deduce that sales of add-in graphics cards made by Nvidia and ATI total around 20-24 million units per quarter in 2008. Extrapolating the quarterly figure to an annual one equates to roughly 80-100 million graphics cards sold each year. This is the figure for only one year of sales, so it's a very conservative estimate of the base number of PCs with modern graphics cards. Of course some of these cards will be low-end, however since the data pertains to add-in graphics cards sold by Nvidia and ATI in the past year, not onboard graphics solutions such as Intel chipsets, then virtually all of them would be capable of some level of gaming. For example even low-end and two year-old cards can pump out over 30FPS or more in Call of Duty 4. Furthermore, since even cards released two years ago, such as the 8800GTS/GTX, can still game very effectively, it's still a low-end estimate of the total number of 'gaming' PCs in total. To add to the rough calculations above, this study claims that approximately 196 million gaming PCs were shipped between the third quarter of 2005 and the third quarter of 2008. One last piece of valuable information comes from Roy Taylor of Nvidia who recently stated that: "...there is a very large installed base of GeForce gamers. We estimate that we have over 180 million active GeForce users. That's a much bigger installed base than PS3 or Xbox 360." "-tweak guides

This Gives us infomation that in one quater of 2008 the number of dedicated Graphics cards sold was almost HALF the TOTAL number of Wiis sold to date.



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#2 dnuggs40
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Just because you say it I am supposed to believe it? Pshh...fanboys.
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#3 explainnow
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2# gaming myth of all time it's impossible to play a console first person shooter without auto aim/aim assist no it's not impossible it's called, not everyone can play games the same just because you suck at controller i cant aim with one.
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Just because you say it I am supposed to believe it? Pshh...fanboys.dnuggs40
Ha! your sig gives you away :P
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You guys come out of the wood works. Nobody has mentioned the PC here in weeks and the first thread about it isn't about some cool game, it's PC Defense Force coming out to defend something nobody attacked and everyone had forgotten about.

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#6 dnuggs40
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PCDF...I like it!
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#7 aaronmullan
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You guys come out of the wood works. Nobody has mentioned the PC here in weeks and the first thread about it isn't about some cool game, it's PC Defense Force coming out to defend something nobody attacked and everyone had forgotten about.

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Weeks? I seen a PC thread yesterday :|
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What would the second myth be? Killzone 2 is graphics king?
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#10 dnuggs40
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Your point was just as irrelevant the first time...
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#11 explainnow
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Actually the biggest gaming myth ever is you need auto aim/aim assist on a controller LOL not everyone can play the same as another person on a real guitar, it's the same deal with a shooter, just because you suck at aiming without aim assist doesnt mean i suck without it.
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#12 dnuggs40
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One more time for good luck!
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You guys come out of the wood works. Nobody has mentioned the PC here in weeks and the first thread about it isn't about some cool game, it's PC Defense Force coming out to defend something nobody attacked and everyone had forgotten about.

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You must not come here very often then because I see a PC thread everyday here in system wars.
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#14 AzatiS
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Very nice m8.

I agree with most and rather that you gave a very good explanation why you think so. Just great

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#15 AdoringFan_
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Wow :|

PC Gaming is not dead; in fact, far from being dead. Enough with this load of crap please. I might as well create thread(s) saying Console gaming is dying.

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I think its nearly dead to me. I've only played a few games on it for the past couple of years, and the only future title im currently interested in is Battlefield 3.

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I think its nearly dead to me. I've only played a few games on it for the past couple of years, and the only future title im currently interested in is Battlefield 3.

Pdiddy105

Wow :|

PC Gaming is not dead; in fact, far from being dead. Enough with this load of crap please. I might as well create thread(s) saying Console gaming is dying.

AdoringFan_
Only problem is... you'll have hordes of people saying console gaming isn't dead... vs. PC where many might agree with you. I'm a hardcore PC gamer...and even I think its dying. I love it to death... but I don't recommend it to any other people at all.
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[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

I think its nearly dead to me. I've only played a few games on it for the past couple of years, and the only future title im currently interested in is Battlefield 3.

quicksilverXP24

Wow :|

PC Gaming is not dead; in fact, far from being dead. Enough with this load of crap please. I might as well create thread(s) saying Console gaming is dying.

AdoringFan_
Only problem is... you'll have hordes of people saying console gaming isn't dead... vs. PC where many might agree with you. I'm a hardcore PC gamer...and even I think its dying. I love it to death... but I don't recommend it to any other people at all.

I also game on the PC alot and I dont think its dying. Not even close. I would recommend it to everyone IF they have a good enough PC to play games on.
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Excellent post, TC.

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The original post clearly states that console sales are trashing PC sales in the billions by 5:1. Hence, console gaming is where it's at, regardless of which console platform you choose. The point remains that console gaming is where gaming's at. Not the PC.
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#21 dnuggs40
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I can tell you didn't finish reading that :lol:
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The original post clearly states that console sales are trashing PC sales in the billions by 5:1. Hence, console gaming is where it's at, regardless of which console platform you choose. The point remains that console gaming is where gaming's at. Not the PC.ElNinjaLoco

In the billions? :lol: there goes the tiny speck of credibility you had left. FACT: there are 2 times more PC gamers than all 3 consoles combined. And please don't respond with the "bbbuuttt NPD sales prove u wrong lulz", I have proven you wrong on the other thread, but you just decided to ignore it 5 times in a row.

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The original post clearly states that console sales are trashing PC sales in the billions by 5:1. Hence, console gaming is where it's at, regardless of which console platform you choose. The point remains that console gaming is where gaming's at. Not the PC.ElNinjaLoco

it takes 5 consoles to "trash" PCgaming. Seems like it's doing just fine. And "console gaming is where gaming is at"? Not if you want gaming with real depth and one that isn't focused solely on the most mainstream games humanly possible

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#24 sleepingzzz
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Another day at Gamespot

Another 'pc is dieing' thread.

Waits for hardcore pc gamers to push the thread out to 20 pages.

Yawn...

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Just because you say it I am supposed to believe it? Pshh...fanboys.dnuggs40
He provided tons of great evidence...
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#26 Hanass
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]Just because you say it I am supposed to believe it? Pshh...fanboys.Wasdie
He provided tons of great evidence...

It was sarcasm. In the other thread, some elitist console fanboy ("Unassigned" he calls himself) kept saying that over and over again.

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[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]The original post clearly states that console sales are trashing PC sales in the billions by 5:1. Hence, console gaming is where it's at, regardless of which console platform you choose. The point remains that console gaming is where gaming's at. Not the PC.

You missed the point entuirely. Thats all the consoles, that was 2007 with Gc. Wii, PS2, 360 and PS3 + All the handhelds Vs. the PC. You break it down you find actual retail sales on the PC just in the US are arround second and that's not including DD.
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#28 AdoringFan_
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[QUOTE="quicksilverXP24"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"] [QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

Wow :|

PC Gaming is not dead; in fact, far from being dead. Enough with this load of crap please. I might as well create thread(s) saying Console gaming is dying.

tester962

Only problem is... you'll have hordes of people saying console gaming isn't dead... vs. PC where many might agree with you. I'm a hardcore PC gamer...and even I think its dying. I love it to death... but I don't recommend it to any other people at all.

I also game on the PC alot and I dont think its dying. Not even close. I would recommend it to everyone IF they have a good enough PC to play games on.

Thank you. Lets tag team and kill the "PC is dying threads" :P.

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As i side point i would like to point something out; Sales and expecially Digital ones, are VERY hard to pin down. NPD has an awfully inaccurate total when it comes to PC gaming and many other mehtids of measuring are just as bad at underestimating it's global impact. In Europe, the UK and RU PC gmaing is much bigger than in the US and also in places like South Korea. The Figures i provided also do not take into account that you don't need dedicated hardware to play games on a PC, it can be done on any of the billion PCs worldwide. Pc gaming is also undergoing Considerable growth; Source

"PC game software grew 18 percent in 2008, thanks to growing usage of online games that are played primarily on computers and not on consoles. If you look at U.S. retail game sales, it certainly looks like it is. But much of the growth is in online sales and new kinds of business models that aren't easy to measure. In 2009, getting that kind of growth is going to be tough. PC game hardware sales are expected to drop 7 percent, or $1.4 billion, to $18.6 billion from $20 billion in 2008, according to a report yesterday by market researcher Jon Peddie Research. Sales are expected to bounce back to $23 billion in 2010, and the firm expects PC game hardware sales to hit $30 billion by 2013. According to the PCGA, PC game software revenue was $12.7 billion in 2008, up 18 percent from $10.8 billion in 2007"

As you can see, it's not only alive but on the rise. Take a look at china.

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"According to JPR total market value for PC gaming hardware in 2008 was just over $20 billion, a figure expected to shoot up to $34 billion by 2012, with the hardware pulling in an extra $6 billion in software and services sales.

The study reckons the Enthusiast segment of the gaming hardware market has a worldwide Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) of nine per cent, the Performance segment is predicted to have a CAGR of 19 per cent and the Mainstream market, where the purchase motivation for gaming is about 6 percent, has a CAGR of 21 per cent" - the enquirer

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You put too much thought into that post...it wont change anything. The only people that believe PC gaming is dying are the delusional/"fanboys".
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It's hard to not argue that it hasn't been quite wounded in the advent of the various DRM schemes that show up on PC games nowadays when you don't have tod eal with any of that on the consoles. I've refused to buy quite a few games recently that my computer could have handled just fine because of the DRM that they have on the disc, or requiring all sorts of crap to make sure you aren't OMG T3H P1R4+3!111!1eleven :roll: I still never understood why they ( whom release and press the games to disc) will install the whole game to the hard drive, yet still demand you keep your disc in the drive when it's just sitting there to do nothing? All that's doing is just creating unneeded wear 'n tear (like what happened with my Q3A disc), so they can make you rebuy another copy down the road.
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#32 Burning-Sludge
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PCs can't die, they just get smaller and smaller.

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#33 BoloTheGreat
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You put too much thought into that post...it wont change anything. The only people that believe PC gaming is dying are the delusional/"fanboys". killab2oo5
Well i don't do post's by half; My next one is concering Cost Vs. Reward and the much touted price of PC gaming.
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]The original post clearly states that console sales are trashing PC sales in the billions by 5:1. Hence, console gaming is where it's at, regardless of which console platform you choose. The point remains that console gaming is where gaming's at. Not the PC.

You missed the point entuirely. Thats all the consoles, that was 2007 with Gc. Wii, PS2, 360 and PS3 + All the handhelds Vs. the PC. You break it down you find actual retail sales on the PC just in the US are arround second and that's not including DD.

No sir, I didn't miss the point. I pointed something out that you are missing. The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. Arguing that it isn't fair to combine all the consoles together is pretty pointless, since it only proves that regardless of which console is chosen, the choice being made is increasingly not the PC. Let's not be hypocritical here. By your logic I could argue that you are combining all PC gaming into one, when you should be breaking it down by DELL, Gateway, HP, IBM, ACER, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And then further break it down by, Laptops, Tables, HTPC's, etc. etc. etc. But no, you're combining all PC games together, regardless of the type of specific platform. Well in that case it's fair to do the same for consoles.
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#35 BoloTheGreat
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PCs can't die, they just get smaller and smaller.

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Really? Becuase my PC is ****ing huge!
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]The original post clearly states that console sales are trashing PC sales in the billions by 5:1. Hence, console gaming is where it's at, regardless of which console platform you choose. The point remains that console gaming is where gaming's at. Not the PC.ElNinjaLoco
You missed the point entuirely. Thats all the consoles, that was 2007 with Gc. Wii, PS2, 360 and PS3 + All the handhelds Vs. the PC. You break it down you find actual retail sales on the PC just in the US are arround second and that's not including DD.

No sir, I didn't miss the point. I pointed something out that you are missing. The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. Arguing that it isn't fair to combine all the consoles together is pretty pointless, since it only proves that regardless of which console is chosen, the choice being made is increasingly not the PC. Let's not be hypocritical here. By your logic I could argue that you are combining all PC gaming into one, when you should be breaking it down by DELL, Gateway, HP, IBM, ACER, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And then further break it down by, Laptops, Tables, HTPC's, etc. etc. etc. But no, you're combining all PC games together, regardless of the type of specific platform. Well in that case it's fair to do the same for consoles.

But all those PC's can play the same games :|

The PS3 cannot play 360 games.

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[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] You missed the point entuirely. Thats all the consoles, that was 2007 with Gc. Wii, PS2, 360 and PS3 + All the handhelds Vs. the PC. You break it down you find actual retail sales on the PC just in the US are arround second and that's not including DD. anshul89

No sir, I didn't miss the point. I pointed something out that you are missing. The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. Arguing that it isn't fair to combine all the consoles together is pretty pointless, since it only proves that regardless of which console is chosen, the choice being made is increasingly not the PC. Let's not be hypocritical here. By your logic I could argue that you are combining all PC gaming into one, when you should be breaking it down by DELL, Gateway, HP, IBM, ACER, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And then further break it down by, Laptops, Tables, HTPC's, etc. etc. etc. But no, you're combining all PC games together, regardless of the type of specific platform. Well in that case it's fair to do the same for consoles.

But all those PC's can play the same games :|

The PS3 cannot play 360 games.

Don't bother he is a troll. Just ignore him and he will go away, he cannot be reasoned with.

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#38 mithrixx
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You can show and discuss all the numbers you want. The fact is, a system that has world of warcraft, will never die.
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#39 ElNinjaLoco
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[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] You missed the point entuirely. Thats all the consoles, that was 2007 with Gc. Wii, PS2, 360 and PS3 + All the handhelds Vs. the PC. You break it down you find actual retail sales on the PC just in the US are arround second and that's not including DD. anshul89

No sir, I didn't miss the point. I pointed something out that you are missing. The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. Arguing that it isn't fair to combine all the consoles together is pretty pointless, since it only proves that regardless of which console is chosen, the choice being made is increasingly not the PC. Let's not be hypocritical here. By your logic I could argue that you are combining all PC gaming into one, when you should be breaking it down by DELL, Gateway, HP, IBM, ACER, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And then further break it down by, Laptops, Tables, HTPC's, etc. etc. etc. But no, you're combining all PC games together, regardless of the type of specific platform. Well in that case it's fair to do the same for consoles.

But all those PC's can play the same games :|

The PS3 cannot play 360 games.

LOL Every PC can play every game? Really? Think about that for a second. I know a lot of games that won't even run if you don't have the right OS installed. Example, Command and Conquer 3 doesn't run on my system? Why? Because it doesn't support 64-bit. Fail. There are many computers that don't meet the requirement to run any number of games. So no, you're completely wrong about. Not all PC's can run all games. Clearly.
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#40 ElNinjaLoco
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"] No sir, I didn't miss the point. I pointed something out that you are missing. The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. Arguing that it isn't fair to combine all the consoles together is pretty pointless, since it only proves that regardless of which console is chosen, the choice being made is increasingly not the PC. Let's not be hypocritical here. By your logic I could argue that you are combining all PC gaming into one, when you should be breaking it down by DELL, Gateway, HP, IBM, ACER, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And then further break it down by, Laptops, Tables, HTPC's, etc. etc. etc. But no, you're combining all PC games together, regardless of the type of specific platform. Well in that case it's fair to do the same for consoles.BoloTheGreat

But all those PC's can play the same games :|

The PS3 cannot play 360 games.

Don't bother he is a troll. Just ignore him and he will go away, he cannot be reasoned with.

Don't break the forum rules by calling people names just because you lost an argument.
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#41 ElNinjaLoco
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You can show and discuss all the numbers you want. The fact is, a system that has world of warcraft, will never die.mithrixx
Good thing the PEOPLE who play it eventually will. :-)
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#42 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"] No sir, I didn't miss the point. I pointed something out that you are missing. The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. Arguing that it isn't fair to combine all the consoles together is pretty pointless, since it only proves that regardless of which console is chosen, the choice being made is increasingly not the PC. Let's not be hypocritical here. By your logic I could argue that you are combining all PC gaming into one, when you should be breaking it down by DELL, Gateway, HP, IBM, ACER, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And then further break it down by, Laptops, Tables, HTPC's, etc. etc. etc. But no, you're combining all PC games together, regardless of the type of specific platform. Well in that case it's fair to do the same for consoles.ElNinjaLoco

But all those PC's can play the same games :|

The PS3 cannot play 360 games.

LOL Every PC can play every game? Really? Think about that for a second. I know a lot of games that won't even run if you don't have the right OS installed. Example, Command and Conquer 3 doesn't run on my system? Why? Because it doesn't support 64-bit. Fail. There are many computers that don't meet the requirement to run any number of games. So no, you're completely wrong about. Not all PC's can run all games. Clearly.

But people don't buy games they can't run at all >>

So if you're counting sales for the PC, you have to combine all of them.

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#43 bubnux
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Meh, all PC gaming is good for is Minesweeper. "My PC iz teh awesome, I gotz 16 GB of DDR5 ram & teh Minesweeper lookz waayyyy better than console version!!!!!" Seriously though, consoles doget the best games and there aren't as many pirates.

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#44 tester962
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="anshul89"]But all those PC's can play the same games :|

The PS3 cannot play 360 games.

ElNinjaLoco

Don't bother he is a troll. Just ignore him and he will go away, he cannot be reasoned with.

Don't break the forum rules by calling people names just because you lost an argument.

actually he clearly won the argument and you just continue to thrash around trying to throw your "billions" and your 5:1 ratio numbers around. Quite sad really.

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#45 tester962
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[QUOTE="mithrixx"]You can show and discuss all the numbers you want. The fact is, a system that has world of warcraft, will never die.ElNinjaLoco
Good thing the PEOPLE who play it eventually will. :-)

thats a little harsh =o
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#46 ElNinjaLoco
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[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Don't bother he is a troll. Just ignore him and he will go away, he cannot be reasoned with.

tester962

Don't break the forum rules by calling people names just because you lost an argument.

actually he clearly won the argument and you just continue to thrash around trying to throw your "billions" and your 5:1 ratio numbers around. Quite sad really.

He said it not me. Shouldn't you read the original post before making assumptions?
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#47 tester962
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[QUOTE="tester962"]

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"] Don't break the forum rules by calling people names just because you lost an argument.ElNinjaLoco

actually he clearly won the argument and you just continue to thrash around trying to throw your "billions" and your 5:1 ratio numbers around. Quite sad really.

He said it not me. Shouldn't you read the original post before making assumptions?

checked it, I was wrong, my bad =o
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#48 CHRION987
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Great post dude, maybe we will see these lame "pc is dying" threads disapear

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#49 CHRION987
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[QUOTE="mithrixx"]You can show and discuss all the numbers you want. The fact is, a system that has world of warcraft, will never die.ElNinjaLoco
Good thing the PEOPLE who play it eventually will. :-)

massively multiplayer games, whether there RPG',s shooters, racers, and any other genre you can think of are going to do nothing but grow with technology, when you and I are old and die they will probably more popular than now.

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#50 BoloTheGreat
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Meh, all PC gaming is good for is Minesweeper. "My PC iz teh awesome, I gotz 16 GB of DDR5 ram & teh Minesweeper lookz waayyyy better than console version!!!!!" Seriously though, consoles doget the best games and there aren't as many pirates.

bubnux

That will be myth No.3 ;) Prepare!