Pc Gaming Myth No.1; PC Gaming is Dying/Dead.

The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. .ElNinjaLoco

If pc gaming was really doing well then you wouldn't have all these blog posts defending it. The ps3 has made a comeback this gen but based on E3 I think the pc will continue to be dominated by Sims, Warcraft and casual stuff like popcap games.

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"] The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. .AdrianWerner

I don't think PC gaming is dying, but it's definitely slowed down, especially this generation.

I'm still excited for

Starcraft 2

Diablo 3

Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet

and Machinarium

I still play TFC/d2 til this day, but I agree with consoles being the better buy for gamers this gen.

What I'm saying is that gaming culture is dominated by consoles, not the PC. As gaming circles go, PC gaming is ignored. When E3 rolls around, the concern is over Sony, MS and Nintendo. The PC is generally not part of the party and is not the focus of attention or headlines.ElNinjaLoco

E3 is a COMPLETELY INVALID COMPARISON. The reason why the consoles were represented is because their seats and shows were bought by the companies that owned them. The PC has no first-party company, ergo, no one to buy out seats for it.

Why? Because this gaming forum, just like 99% of all gaming forums are console centric. ElNinjaLoco

Amazing, this "console-centric" board thinks the PC is better than consoles. Great way to back up your argument, if on a "console-centric board" the PC is MORE POPULAR than the ENTIRE CONSOLE MARKET. :lol:

Oh, and yes, prove your assertion that "99% of all gaming forums are console centric". Knowing you, you'll just pretend that I never said anything. :roll:

What I'm saying is that PC gaming, except for a few key cultural staples, is dead. Wow, the Sims, StarCraft and a few other PC only titles like Crysis are all that remains of what the PC as a platform has left as an influence in modern culture. Beyond that, PC gaming goes ignored. My argument is that culturally, PC gaming is effectively dead. When was the last time you saw somebody on a TV show playing game... on the PC? Nope it's always one console or the other. And that is my point, culturally it's irrelevant.ElNinjaLoco

Prove every single one of these assertions with links. NOW.

Anyway, who the hell cares about the "culture"? And besides, any evidence you can provide for those claims is ANECDOTAL, SUBJECTIVE, OPINIONATED and HAS YET TO BE SUPPORTED BY ANY OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS OR STATISTIC. What we do know regarding games is that the PC has more of them in worthwhile quality than ALL CONSOLES COMBINED in the SAME TIMEFRAME.

PC gaming is so dead that EA agrees with you. PC gaming is so dead that it's not the most financially active platform. PC gaming is so dead that it doesn't have the largest install base in a console-centric country. PC gaming is so... screw this, ALL the evidence says that its FAR FROM DEAD. :|

If pc gaming was really doing well then you wouldn't have all these blog posts defending it. The ps3 has made a comeback this gen but based on E3 I think the pc will continue to be dominated by Sims, Warcraft and casual stuff like popcap games.

dc337

That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that gaming culture is dominated by consoles, not the PC. As gaming circles go, PC gaming is ignored. When E3 rolls around, the concern is over Sony, MS and Nintendo. The PC is generally not part of the party and is not the focus of attention or headlines. Consider this forum as a prime example. ElNinjaLoco

Why? Because this gaming forum, just like 99% of all gaming forums are console centric.ElNinjaLoco

What I'm saying is that PC gaming, except for a few key cultural staples, is dead. Wow, the Sims, StarCraft and a few other PC only titles like Crysis are all that remains of what the PC as a platform has left as an influence in modern culture. Beyond that, PC gaming goes ignored. My argument is that culturally, PC gaming is effectively dead. When was the last time you saw somebody on a TV show playing game... on the PC? Nope it's always one console or the other. And that is my point, culturally it's irrelevant.ElNinjaLoco

Plus it's pretty shallow way of thinking that everything that's not fully mainstream is dead. That's like saying orange juice industry is dead because coffee sells better.

If it's not dying, how come no one's talking about it anymore besides minorities on gaming forums? It's games are the least hyped, and overlooked by the gaming public.NYrockinlegend

If PC dies (which it won't) and all that's left are console games, what'll be the point of playing games anymore? Sure playing console games is great fun but some people need mental stimulation aswell and console rarely deliver any. What chance is there of games like Deus ex being developed if there's no PC?

If PC dies (which it won't) and all that's left are console games, what'll be the point of playing games anymore? Sure playing console games is great fun but some people need mental stimulation aswell and console rarely deliver any. What chance is there of games like Deus ex being developed if there's no PC?

Flanker15

i remember back in 1996 when n64 first launched i was still mainly a console gamer i mean i had played wolfenstein 3d/doom on pc.

but i used to think n64 was more powerful than a gaming pc because n64 had a 3d excelerator card and no pc at the time of release had a video card/3d excelerator on the market they didnt exist yet only in n64 for non pixelated graphics aka software mode.

i seen my friend playing quake 1 online deathmatch on his 100 mhz pentum 1 gateway pc and i was like damn this crap owns console gaming, but i still thought the graphics were better on turok,

well months later video cards get released on the pc market and quake get's open gl support no more non pixelated graphics then my friend showed me quake again i was like damn dude this blows turoks graphics away.

but basically been a pc gamer since

LOL @ noobs

i miss the 90s people of my generation or older who were into pc gaming/console in the 90s really did experience the best times ever in this industry.

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If PC dies (which it won't) and all that's left are console games, what'll be the point of playing games anymore? Sure playing console games is great fun but some people need mental stimulation aswell and console rarely deliver any. What chance is there of games like Deus ex being developed if there's no PC?

explainnow

It wasn't developed with PS2 in mind, the PS2 version was a gamble to see how well a complex game like Deus ex works on a console. It fell short of the PC version because the controller and hardware limits of a console prevent effecient use of complex game mechanics.

[QUOTE="explainnow"][QUOTE="Flanker15"]

If PC dies (which it won't) and all that's left are console games, what'll be the point of playing games anymore? Sure playing console games is great fun but some people need mental stimulation aswell and console rarely deliver any. What chance is there of games like Deus ex being developed if there's no PC?

Flanker15

It wasn't developed with PS2 in mind, the PS2 version was a gamble to see how well a complex game like Deus ex works on a console. It fell short of the PC version because the controller and hardware limits of a console prevent effecient use of complex game mechanics.

That's why they made the next deus 2 on xbox right?

deus is one of those overrated games like system shock.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/kingpinlifeofcrime/index.html?tag=result;title;0

While everyone in 1999 was playing system shock a game that sucked, i was playing games like kingpin life of crime.

Never been a fan of reading in a video game, that's for a book.

lol, i always hated these system shock 2 games ur either a first person shooter or rpg make up ur mind.

[QUOTE="explainnow"][QUOTE="Flanker15"]

If PC dies (which it won't) and all that's left are console games, what'll be the point of playing games anymore? Sure playing console games is great fun but some people need mental stimulation aswell and console rarely deliver any. What chance is there of games like Deus ex being developed if there's no PC?

Flanker15

It wasn't developed with PS2 in mind, the PS2 version was a gamble to see how well a complex game like Deus ex works on a console. It fell short of the PC version because the controller and hardware limits of a console prevent effecient use of complex game mechanics.

Here's a review of deus ex ps2 which shows how full of crap you are:

Deus Ex's strength on the PC was its gameplay. Happily, this experience has been largely carried over to the PS2. With few exceptions, the player is still granted the same levels of freedom within the game. The game's objectives are extremely unrestricted, and open for personal interpretation and play-style.
http://archive.gamespy.com/reviews/april02/deusexps2/index2.shtm

You do not need a pc to have a complex or mentally stimulating game.

The real advantage of a mouse/keyboard is in aiming, selecting and text chatting. You don't need a m/kb for a complex menu system.

deus ex sucks

PC is doing great. 20m Steam users, 10m WoW subscribers, only god knows how many high-end GPU owners. Is anyone seriously thinking that all those people will just suddenly stop gaming on PC?

You can drag sales into it, and yeah console games sell better on average, but there's still money to be made on PC. Stalker sold 2m, The Witcher 1.2m, Crysis 1.5m, Spore 2m, SupCom 1m etc. there's a huge amount of million sellers on PC just this gen, too many to list, and devs/publishers aren't gonna abandon any potential sales these days. PC gaming will live on long after PS3, 360 and Wii are buried.

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[QUOTE="explainnow"] plenty since deus ex was developed with ps2 in mind lolvideogamesdead8

It wasn't developed with PS2 in mind, the PS2 version was a gamble to see how well a complex game like Deus ex works on a console. It fell short of the PC version because the controller and hardware limits of a console prevent effecient use of complex game mechanics.

That's why they made the next deus 2 on xbox right?

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You do not need a pc to have a complex or mentally stimulating game.

dc337

deus ex sucks

videogamesdead8

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deus ex sucks

AdrianWerner

LULZ deus ex 8.0

quake 2 9.0 the end

finally gamespot was right

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[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"] The argument is whether or not PC gaming is dying. Well, by the very proof that you yourself posted, games on consoles outsell the PC 5:1 as a whole. Thus, the vast majority of gaming is NOT done on the PC, but rather on consoles. .ElNinjaLoco

PC gaming is dead because you don't see commercials for it like you do for the 360 and PS3? Books aren't culturally relevant anymore because you don't see insane amounts of advertisement and marketing for them so reading must be dead. I could continue with the absurd blanket statements, but I won't. You do realize that this is because PCs have no first-party parent company that owns and controls PC gaming as a whole, right? No, of course you don't, because every "argument" you've tried making on this thread has been flawed. Anytime a publisher puts out advertisements for games that are being released on multiple platforms including the PC, it's always included on said advertisement. You just don't see any "Hey come play on a PC!" commercials because like I said, there is no parent company that controls the entire PC market as a whole.

Regardless of whether or not the mindless masses and xbox live dudez think PC gaming is culturally irrelevant and not hip or cool, finacially PC gaming most certainly is not irrelevant as proven by the TC.

You guys come out of the wood works. Nobody has mentioned the PC here in weeks and the first thread about it isn't about some cool game, it's PC Defense Force coming out to defend something nobody attacked and everyone had forgotten about.

I think its nearly dead to me. I've only played a few games on it for the past couple of years, and the only future title im currently interested in is Battlefield 3.

Pdiddy105