PC has been losing so many exclusives

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aaaand if any of these are good they"ll be on consoles tooQuad4Life

seems to be a fair trade then. all good pc games go to consoles and all good console games go to the pc. :|

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#602 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Gamespot this gen: Great+ exclusives

 

PC: 130~

PS3: 30~

xbox360: 30~

Wii: 30~

 

/thread

Quad4Life

You know those PC stats are full of sh*t

how are they full of shit?

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"]aaaand if any of these are good they"ll be on consoles tooCaseyWegner

seems to be a fair trade then. all good pc games go to consoles and all good console games go to the pc. :|

wait if they go to console, can I not play them on PC?

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#604 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Nearly 600 posts and 30 pages.

Amazing...turly...truly amazing. Anyways, yeah PC has been losing a fair number but when one goes away about four or five more take its place.

Quad4Life

The ones that takes its place are usually 2D indie games from up and coming developers, nothing high profile.

What's your point? They're still games, they're still exclusive to PC, I don't see the problem here.

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#605 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Gamespot this gen: Great+ exclusives

 

PC: 130~

PS3: 30~

xbox360: 30~

Wii: 30~

 

/thread

lostrib

You know those PC stats are full of sh*t

how are they full of shit?

1. he doesn't know what they are
2. they don't go along with what he's been trying to do here
3. moo

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#606 pcgamingowns
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Even multiplats are still pc exclusive lol the graphics are pc exclusive.

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#607 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Gamespot this gen: Great+ exclusives

 

PC: 130~

PS3: 30~

xbox360: 30~

Wii: 30~

 

/thread

Quad4Life

You know those PC stats are full of sh*t

 

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#608 Jebus213
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This is a sad thread.

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#609 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

I'll just leave this here

 

 

lostrib

aaaand if any of these are good they"ll be on consoles too

yet more speculation

It's not speculation, just look at the history. Any successful PC franchise makes its way to consoles, pretty much devs use PC as a way to get known and started and once they make it big, PC becomes an afterthought Just look at Epic Games and Crytek
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#610 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"]aaaand if any of these are good they"ll be on consoles toolostrib

seems to be a fair trade then. all good pc games go to consoles and all good console games go to the pc. :|

wait if they go to console, can I not play them on PC?

nope. they vanish.

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#611 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Gamespot this gen: Great+ exclusives

 

PC: 130~

PS3: 30~

xbox360: 30~

Wii: 30~

 

/thread

Bebi_vegeta

You know those PC stats are full of sh*t

 

butthurt.png

Not butthurt at all, I just look at the statistic of activity for games that people play and 130 of these "great" PC games is a huge over statement. None of these indie games are played after 2-3 weeks, I'am laying just read their game hubs on Steam.
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#612 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Nearly 600 posts and 30 pages.

Amazing...turly...truly amazing. Anyways, yeah PC has been losing a fair number but when one goes away about four or five more take its place.

Quad4Life

The ones that takes its place are usually 2D indie games from up and coming developers, nothing high profile.

I remember when you guys had braid exclusive... Consolite seemed to enjot it.

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Nearly 600 posts and 30 pages.

Amazing...turly...truly amazing. Anyways, yeah PC has been losing a fair number but when one goes away about four or five more take its place.

Goyoshi12

The ones that takes its place are usually 2D indie games from up and coming developers, nothing high profile.

What's your point? They're still games, they're still exclusive to PC, I don't see the problem here.

They are XBL/PSN Arcade equivalents that are hyped as being amazing games. Why do you guys keep on spouting "GTX or AMD 8000 is 20x stronger than PS4" then? Who cares if none of the games will use the power.
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#614 SchnabbleTab
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"]

You need to stop being an idiot and realize that I'm saying the 8800 Ultra could not play games at the same level as consoles.

This is because you can optimize consoles way more efficiently.

Do you want me to simplify this even more for you?

Quad4Life

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

the 8800GTX will still play any game with higher rez, settings and fps than the console version FACT.

If this was the case why did pretty much everyone upgrade their graphic cards 2-5 times from 2005-2013, the whole entire console gen.

 

I have a 9600GT which is weaker than a 8800GTX and I also have a PS3 and X360, though I never use the X360 because it's crap...lol

 

Anyways, my PC is a custom build and I paid as much as I paid for my PS3 at launch, 600 bucks back in 2007. I play all my games in 1080p and with AA and AF and every game that I have for both PS3 and PC looks awfully better on my PC and also runs better.

 

Conclusion: Same priced PC as PS3 can do better graphics and run games better plus games are cheaper on PC, which means PC gaming is cheaper as a whole than console gaming.

 

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#615 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Nearly 600 posts and 30 pages.

Amazing...turly...truly amazing. Anyways, yeah PC has been losing a fair number but when one goes away about four or five more take its place.

Bebi_vegeta

The ones that takes its place are usually 2D indie games from up and coming developers, nothing high profile.

I remember when you guys had braid exclusive... Consolite seemed to enjot it.

Indie game enjoyment is short lived typically, you know this.
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Don't forget Hotline Miami, the best PC exclusive ever, lost.
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#617 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] aaaand if any of these are good they"ll be on consoles tooQuad4Life

yet more speculation

It's not speculation, just look at the history.

it's not speculation. just look at the history?

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#618 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] You know those PC stats are full of sh*tQuad4Life

 

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Not butthurt at all, I just look at the statistic of activity for games that people play and 130 of these "great" PC games is a huge over statement. None of these indie games are played after 2-3 weeks, I'am laying just read their game hubs on Steam.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] aaaand if any of these are good they"ll be on consoles tooQuad4Life

yet more speculation

It's not speculation, just look at the history. Any successful PC franchise makes its way to consoles, pretty much devs use PC as a way to get known and started and once they make it big, PC becomes an afterthought Just look at Epic Games and Crytek

Right, it's speculation.  You mean Epic games which is creating a PC exclusive right now, or Crytek which is currently making making a PC exclusive, and recently released Crysis 3 which pushes PC graphics and hardware to the limit.  

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#620 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

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the 8800GTX will still play any game with higher rez, settings and fps than the console version FACT.

SchnabbleTab

If this was the case why did pretty much everyone upgrade their graphic cards 2-5 times from 2005-2013, the whole entire console gen.

 

I have a 9600GT which is weaker than a 8800GTX and I also have a PS3 and X360, though I never use the X360 because it's crap...lol

 

Anyways, my PC is a custom build and I paid as much as I paid for my PS3 at launch, 600 bucks back in 2007. I play all my games in 1080p and with AA and AF and every game that I have for both PS3 and PC looks awfully better on my PC and also runs better.

 

Conclusion: Same priced PC as PS3 can do better graphics and run games better plus games are cheaper on PC, which means PC gaming is cheaper as a whole than console gaming.

 

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Just no

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] The ones that takes its place are usually 2D indie games from up and coming developers, nothing high profile.Quad4Life

What's your point? They're still games, they're still exclusive to PC, I don't see the problem here.

They are XBL/PSN Arcade equivalents that are hyped as being amazing games. Why do you guys keep on spouting "GTX or AMD 8000 is 20x stronger than PS4" then? Who cares if none of the games will use the power.

 

95% of games are multiplats, those will use all the power, especially in 1440p at 60 FPS and in 3D.

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#622 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

seems to be a fair trade then. all good pc games go to consoles and all good console games go to the pc. :|

CaseyWegner

wait if they go to console, can I not play them on PC?

nope. they vanish.

shit! 

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Don't forget Hotline Miami, the best PC exclusive ever, lost. ShoulderOfOrion
I bought that, got bored and made realize how bad and how low the standards for PC gaming have become.
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] The ones that takes its place are usually 2D indie games from up and coming developers, nothing high profile.Quad4Life

What's your point? They're still games, they're still exclusive to PC, I don't see the problem here.

They are XBL/PSN Arcade equivalents that are hyped as being amazing games. Why do you guys keep on spouting "GTX or AMD 8000 is 20x stronger than PS4" then? Who cares if none of the games will use the power.

still ignoring things, i see? you know things like arma 3 and rome 2 have been mentioned here. the power is also used on *gasp* multiplats.

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#625 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] The ones that takes its place are usually 2D indie games from up and coming developers, nothing high profile.Quad4Life

I remember when you guys had braid exclusive... Consolite seemed to enjot it.

Indie game enjoyment is short lived typically, you know this.

So it's better to have a bad game ?

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#626 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

yet more speculation

lostrib

It's not speculation, just look at the history. Any successful PC franchise makes its way to consoles, pretty much devs use PC as a way to get known and started and once they make it big, PC becomes an afterthought Just look at Epic Games and Crytek

Right, it's speculation.  You mean Epic games which is creating a PC exclusive right now, or Crytek which is currently making making a PC exclusive, and recently released Crysis 3 which pushes PC graphics and hardware to the limit.  

Crytek is making a PC exclusive? Link this. Fortenite is definitely coming to PS4/360 not matter what, theres no reason for it not to.
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#627 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

What's your point? They're still games, they're still exclusive to PC, I don't see the problem here.

CaseyWegner

They are XBL/PSN Arcade equivalents that are hyped as being amazing games. Why do you guys keep on spouting "GTX or AMD 8000 is 20x stronger than PS4" then? Who cares if none of the games will use the power.

still ignoring things, i see? you know things like arma 3 and rome 2 have been mentioned here. the power is also used on *gasp* multiplats.

The power is used on multiplats like Crysis or BF3, most PC games aren't like those. Most PC games infact run on the UE3 which is highly optimized and doesn't require really high end rigs to max.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] It's not speculation, just look at the history. Any successful PC franchise makes its way to consoles, pretty much devs use PC as a way to get known and started and once they make it big, PC becomes an afterthought Just look at Epic Games and CrytekQuad4Life

Right, it's speculation.  You mean Epic games which is creating a PC exclusive right now, or Crytek which is currently making making a PC exclusive, and recently released Crysis 3 which pushes PC graphics and hardware to the limit.  

Crytek is making a PC exclusive? Link this. Fortenite is definitely coming to PS4/360 not matter what, theres no reason for it not to.

Go google it.  And there is no evidence or announcement that it is coming to consoles at this time.  But if it did, it would be a port of the PC version. Disproves your idea that PC is an afterthought

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#629 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I remember when you guys had braid exclusive... Consolite seemed to enjot it.

Bebi_vegeta

Indie game enjoyment is short lived typically, you know this.

So it's better to have a bad game ?

Quality >>> Quantity

PC gaming has more Quantity

Console game has more Quality

Consoles win

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Indie game enjoyment is short lived typically, you know this.Quad4Life

So it's better to have a bad game ?

Quality >>> Quantity PC gaming has more Quantity Console game has more Quality Consoles win

um, if PC has more games with high ratings, wouldn't they have the better quality as well

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] They are XBL/PSN Arcade equivalents that are hyped as being amazing games. Why do you guys keep on spouting "GTX or AMD 8000 is 20x stronger than PS4" then? Who cares if none of the games will use the power.Quad4Life

still ignoring things, i see? you know things like arma 3 and rome 2 have been mentioned here. the power is also used on *gasp* multiplats.

The power is used on multiplats like Crysis or BF3, most PC games aren't like those. Most PC games infact run on the UE3 which is highly optimized and doesn't require really high end rigs to max.

still ignoring things, i see? you know things like arma 3 and rome 2 have been mentioned here. the power is also used on *gasp* multiplats.

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Right, it's speculation.  You mean Epic games which is creating a PC exclusive right now, or Crytek which is currently making making a PC exclusive, and recently released Crysis 3 which pushes PC graphics and hardware to the limit.  

lostrib

Crytek is making a PC exclusive? Link this. Fortenite is definitely coming to PS4/360 not matter what, theres no reason for it not to.

Go google it.  And there is no evidence or announcement that it is coming to consoles at this time.  But if it did, it would be a port of the PC version. Disproves your idea that PC is an afterthought

It is an afterthought because what ever game Epic is showing at E3 for the X1 or PS4 won't be on the PC. I'll do a ban bet, if I'm wrong they can ban me.
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#633 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Indie game enjoyment is short lived typically, you know this.Quad4Life

So it's better to have a bad game ?

Quality >>> Quantity

PC gaming has more Quantity

Console game has more Quality

Consoles win

Quality is subjective.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Crytek is making a PC exclusive? Link this. Fortenite is definitely coming to PS4/360 not matter what, theres no reason for it not to.Quad4Life

Go google it.  And there is no evidence or announcement that it is coming to consoles at this time.  But if it did, it would be a port of the PC version. Disproves your idea that PC is an afterthought

It is an afterthought because what ever game Epic is showing at E3 for the X1 or PS4 won't be on the PC. I'll do a ban bet, if I'm wrong they can ban me.

you think it's going to take a bet for you to get banned? :lol:

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[QUOTE="SchnabbleTab"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] If this was the case why did pretty much everyone upgrade their graphic cards 2-5 times from 2005-2013, the whole entire console gen.

Quad4Life

 

I have a 9600GT which is weaker than a 8800GTX and I also have a PS3 and X360, though I never use the X360 because it's crap...lol

 

Anyways, my PC is a custom build and I paid as much as I paid for my PS3 at launch, 600 bucks back in 2007. I play all my games in 1080p and with AA and AF and every game that I have for both PS3 and PC looks awfully better on my PC and also runs better.

 

Conclusion: Same priced PC as PS3 can do better graphics and run games better plus games are cheaper on PC, which means PC gaming is cheaper as a whole than console gaming.

 

 

Just no

 

My PS3 - 599Euro.

My PC - 600Euro

 

PC games = 30 - 50 Euro

PS3 games = 60 Euro

 

Do the math.

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#636 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Indie game enjoyment is short lived typically, you know this.Quad4Life

So it's better to have a bad game ?

Quality >>> Quantity

PC gaming has more Quantity

Console game has more Quality

Consoles win

PC games have both.

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#637 Quad4Life
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

So it's better to have a bad game ?

lostrib

Quality >>> Quantity PC gaming has more Quantity Console game has more Quality Consoles win

um, if PC has more games with high ratings, wouldn't they have the better quality as well

Their high rated games don't typically last long, seriously just look up some of these high rated games on Steam. Check the game hub and you will see that many of them are deserted wastelands after a month of them being released.
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You do know that he's trolling you guys? I bet he's having a right giggle.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Crytek is making a PC exclusive? Link this. Fortenite is definitely coming to PS4/360 not matter what, theres no reason for it not to.Quad4Life

Go google it.  And there is no evidence or announcement that it is coming to consoles at this time.  But if it did, it would be a port of the PC version. Disproves your idea that PC is an afterthought

It is an afterthought because what ever game Epic is showing at E3 for the X1 or PS4 won't be on the PC. I'll do a ban bet, if I'm wrong they can ban me.

If they are developing a PC exclusive, how is it an afterthought.

Has epic even announced if they are showing any games at E3?

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Quality >>> Quantity PC gaming has more Quantity Console game has more Quality Consoles winQuad4Life

um, if PC has more games with high ratings, wouldn't they have the better quality as well

Their high rated games don't typically last long, seriously just look up some of these high rated games on Steam. Check the game hub and you will see that many of them are deserted wastelands after a month of them being released.

because it's on to the next game. quality + quantity

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Quality >>> Quantity PC gaming has more Quantity Console game has more Quality Consoles winQuad4Life

um, if PC has more games with high ratings, wouldn't they have the better quality as well

Their high rated games don't typically last long, seriously just look up some of these high rated games on Steam. Check the game hub and you will see that many of them are deserted wastelands after a month of them being released.

that's irrelevant to the point

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Quality >>> Quantity PC gaming has more Quantity Console game has more Quality Consoles winQuad4Life

um, if PC has more games with high ratings, wouldn't they have the better quality as well

Their high rated games don't typically last long, seriously just look up some of these high rated games on Steam. Check the game hub and you will see that many of them are deserted wastelands after a month of them being released.

Halo 4 is more deserted then Halo Reach...

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Quality >>> Quantity PC gaming has more Quantity Console game has more Quality Consoles winQuad4Life

um, if PC has more games with high ratings, wouldn't they have the better quality as well

Their high rated games don't typically last long, seriously just look up some of these high rated games on Steam. Check the game hub and you will see that many of them are deserted wastelands after a month of them being released.

 

So what? Go play UC2 or UC3, or some other highly praised PS3 exclusives, barely anyone is online anymore.

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You do know that he's trolling you guys? I bet he's having a right giggle. clyde46

i hope so, no one can be this stupid

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"] Crytek is making a PC exclusive? Link this. Fortenite is definitely coming to PS4/360 not matter what, theres no reason for it not to.Quad4Life

Go google it.  And there is no evidence or announcement that it is coming to consoles at this time.  But if it did, it would be a port of the PC version. Disproves your idea that PC is an afterthought

It is an afterthought because what ever game Epic is showing at E3 for the X1 or PS4 won't be on the PC. I'll do a ban bet, if I'm wrong they can ban me.

Who cares about epicgames's actual games?The only thing good about them is their engines nowadays they havent made an actual good game since like ut2k4! People can license their engine and make better games that are pc exclusives.

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what an excellent troll thread. bout to hit 70 pages. Well done.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]You do know that he's trolling you guys? I bet he's having a right giggle. lostrib

i hope so, no one can be this stupid

 

Oh, you'd be surprised, everything is possible in a cow thread.

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what an excellent troll thread. bout to hit 70 pages. Well done.NFJSupreme

only if you have your post per page set on wuss

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Go google it.  And there is no evidence or announcement that it is coming to consoles at this time.  But if it did, it would be a port of the PC version. Disproves your idea that PC is an afterthought

lostrib

It is an afterthought because what ever game Epic is showing at E3 for the X1 or PS4 won't be on the PC. I'll do a ban bet, if I'm wrong they can ban me.

If they are developing a PC exclusive, how is it an afterthought.

Has epic even announced if they are showing any games at E3?

Probably Gears of War 4
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um, if PC has more games with high ratings, wouldn't they have the better quality as well

Bebi_vegeta

Their high rated games don't typically last long, seriously just look up some of these high rated games on Steam. Check the game hub and you will see that many of them are deserted wastelands after a month of them being released.

Halo 4 is more deserted then Halo Reach...

and yet still has more players than Battlefield 3, Black Ops 2, and Planetside 2 on the PC. Damn