PC has no AAAA Game in the History of Gaming

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#501 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] So let me get this straight, you go into a thread about PC game ratings and simply because of the reason that is related to PC gaming you find it perfectly acceptable to insult pc gamers by essentially saying that they dont enjoy games? How is that relevant to the discussion at all? And as for your own logic being used against you by Naval, you were basing your insult off of the fact that PC gamers were defending their game. So he in turn noted that console gamers do the exact same thing. Yet when that happens you choose to avoid an answer because it was "off topic" and you "didnt want to get modded" when he was responding to your post that was: A.) Not on topic, B.) insulting and probably qualifies as trolling.killab2oo5

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Says you who have 12 406 posts? The irony..............ocstew
And? 12.4k posts in 5 years...that's about 7 posts per day. You have 890 posts in about 6 months...which is about 5 posts per day. :) So, what were YOU getting at?

On topic so I don't get moderated again...The reason the PC doesn't have an AAAA title may be because there are no worthy candidates. I'm just sayin'.

I'm not the one accusing hermits of not playing their games, that's YOU.
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#502 killab2oo5
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Answer me honestly now, if you made a new thread using your exact statements, and reasoning for those statements, How long do you think it would last before moderation.

ferret-gamer

It would get locked instantly because it's blog material. I don't see any reason for me to get moderated in this thread because, and I'm repeating myself for you AGAIN...it pertains completely to the topic at hand...so it's relevant.

I'm not the one accusing hermits of not playing their games, that's YOU. ocstew
Please show me where I've said hermits do not play games. What I said, basically, is that PC gamers shouldn't care about what others think.

And what did you mean? About me having 12k posts in the span of 5 years?

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I really don't see why anyone would be offended by that. Maybe my skin is just a bit too thick and I don't see it, but honestly...I don't see anything wrong with it.

killab2oo5

Answer me honestly now, if you made a new thread using your exact statements, and reasoning for those statements, How long do you think it would last before moderation.

It would get locked instantly because it's blog material. I don't see any reason for me to get moderated in this thread because, and I'm repeating myself for you AGAIN...it pertains completely to the topic at hand...so it's relevant.

It is not relevant at all apart from it being related to PC gaming, a big generalization, you want to know another generalization this thread is related to gaming in general :o so maybe we should get the dreamcast and checkers involved. How do you see what you posted pertaining to PC gaming not having AAAA titles?
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It is not relevant at all apart from it being related to PC gaming, a big generalization, you want to know another generalization this thread is related to gaming in general :o so maybe we should get the dreamcast and checkers involved. How do you see what you posted pertaining to PC gaming not having AAAA titles?ferret-gamer
http://forums.grandbell.net/Smileys/default/Facepalm_emote_gif.gif Are you intending solely to annoy me by asking redundant questions which I have answered atleast 3 times already in the past 2 or 3 pages? Feel free to go back and re-obtain your answers. I guess my work here is done.

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#507 WhenCicadasCry
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OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

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#508 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]It is not relevant at all apart from it being related to PC gaming, a big generalization, you want to know another generalization this thread is related to gaming in general :o so maybe we should get the dreamcast and checkers involved. How do you see what you posted pertaining to PC gaming not having AAAA titles?killab2oo5

http://forums.grandbell.net/Smileys/default/Facepalm_emote_gif.gif Are you intending solely to annoy me by asking redundant questions which I have answered atleast 3 times already in the past 2 or 3 pages? Feel free to go back and re-obtain your answers. I guess my work here is done.

Yes you kept answering the same thing without actually responding to my posts it essentially went like this, Q) How is this on topic A) it is related PC, Q) ok but how is it relevant to the discussion A) It is related to PC, Q) yes it is about PC, but your post has no relevance to what is actually being discussed A) it is related to PC.

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#509 calvinsora  Online
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OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

WhenCicadasCry

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

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#510 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

calvinsora

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

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#511 calvinsora  Online
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

WhenCicadasCry

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

I'm just going by the review and things I've heard from others. Bugs don't always pop up for everyone, but the reasons for it being scored lower is in the review GS wrote. 'Tis not a secret.

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#512 Barbariser
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Is this thread about console games and AAAA's? No. That is why I haven't bothered to say anything about console games and AAAA. What about that is so hard to understand?

killab2oo5

Is my point so difficult to get? Your logic is flawed, and the fact that you posted here can be used against you by that rationale. If this thread is evidence of what you said, then it also evidence that you care more about pointing out your imaginary PC gamer flaws than playing your games. Of course, the problem is that PC gamers posting in this thread is in no way an indicator that they "care more about their reputation than enjoying their games".

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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

WhenCicadasCry

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

Yeah the only thing wrong with the PC version of GTAIV was that it wasn't optimized very well, I didn't get any bugs though.
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#514 erdemn
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Guys Guys relax a bit. GTAIV started like crap on pc. It's better now, but it still needs incredible power to max it on PC. However it looks better on my PC then on a console so im happy:)

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#515 ducati101
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

WhenCicadasCry

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

Same here. The PC version made my PS3 version look last gen, in terms of graphics and smoothness.
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#516 toxicmog
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Because the console makers, Ie Sony, MS Nintendo pay for nice review scores :S No way that GTA 4 could of scored a ten, God of war 3 is annoyingly dull, just like AC1, at least AC2 broke the game up a bit ¬_¬ So I don't know how these score so high, without some kind of money.

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#517 ducati101
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

calvinsora

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

I'm just going by the review and things I've heard from others. Bugs don't always pop up for everyone, but the reasons for it being scored lower is in the review GS wrote. 'Tis not a secret.

I'll say again, the best recent example is MW2. Better graphics, faster loading, better framerate, choice of controls on the PC version yet it scores a little lower than the console version. Because it has (for PC users at least) limited and basic online functions.
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#518 calvinsora  Online
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

ducati101

I'm just going by the review and things I've heard from others. Bugs don't always pop up for everyone, but the reasons for it being scored lower is in the review GS wrote. 'Tis not a secret.

I'll say again, the best recent example is MW2. Better graphics, faster loading, better framerate, choice of controls on the PC version yet it scores a little lower than the console version. Because it has (for PC users at least) limited and basic online functions.

That is basing it all on MP, though, which I find is a irrelevant feature. Regardless, this does not prove that it is a general policy to have higher standards on the PC. Should I give mediocre PC games a good score just because I do not like the overall library?

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#519 WhenCicadasCry
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[QUOTE="ducati101"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I'm just going by the review and things I've heard from others. Bugs don't always pop up for everyone, but the reasons for it being scored lower is in the review GS wrote. 'Tis not a secret.

calvinsora

I'll say again, the best recent example is MW2. Better graphics, faster loading, better framerate, choice of controls on the PC version yet it scores a little lower than the console version. Because it has (for PC users at least) limited and basic online functions.

That is basing it all on MP, though, which I find is a irrelevant feature. Regardless, this does not prove that it is a general policy to have higher standards on the PC. Should I give mediocre PC games a good score just because I do not like the overall library?

Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?

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#520 calvinsora  Online
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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="ducati101"] I'll say again, the best recent example is MW2. Better graphics, faster loading, better framerate, choice of controls on the PC version yet it scores a little lower than the console version. Because it has (for PC users at least) limited and basic online functions.WhenCicadasCry

That is basing it all on MP, though, which I find is a irrelevant feature. Regardless, this does not prove that it is a general policy to have higher standards on the PC. Should I give mediocre PC games a good score just because I do not like the overall library?

Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?

Indeed, then it should have scored higher. I´m not debating that. What I´m saying is that it isn´t any sort of general rule, or at least shouldn´t be one at all.

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#521 WhenCicadasCry
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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Review (PC)

"Modern Warfare 2 boasts an exhilarating campaign, engaging cooperative play, and addictive multiplayer, but the high price and limited multiplayer features may tarnish its appeal."

But it's identical to the consoles multiplayer, and the same price too.... so why score lower?

From the review:

  • Costs more, has fewer multiplayer features than other PC shooters
  • Campaign is short
  • Plot is muddled and inelegant.
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[QUOTE="ducati101"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I'm just going by the review and things I've heard from others. Bugs don't always pop up for everyone, but the reasons for it being scored lower is in the review GS wrote. 'Tis not a secret.

calvinsora

I'll say again, the best recent example is MW2. Better graphics, faster loading, better framerate, choice of controls on the PC version yet it scores a little lower than the console version. Because it has (for PC users at least) limited and basic online functions.

That is basing it all on MP, though, which I find is a irrelevant feature. Regardless, this does not prove that it is a general policy to have higher standards on the PC. Should I give mediocre PC games a good score just because I do not like the overall library?

here I posted something about this very same discussion to someone else... please disregard any smart u-know-what remarks...they were intended for someone else:oops:

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if you bothered to actually read the PC review.. you will know that the reason MW2 PC scored lower than the console versions is because it was being judge against other pc games... for example :

MW2 PC REVIEW


The Bad

  • Costs more, has fewer multiplayer features than other PC shooters
  • Campaign is short
  • Plot is muddled and inelegant.

again incase you didnt see


The Bad

  • Costs more, has fewer multiplayer features than other PC shooters
  • Campaign is short
  • Plot is muddled and inelegant.

not only that but evidence of pc having different standards or higher standards..call it what you will.. is apparent


"If you compare Modern Warfare 2 on the PC to its console counterparts, the game is every bit as awesome and enjoyable. Yet when compared to other online shooters on the PC, the multiplayer component is decidedly limited."


"Furthermore, there is no support for user-created content, so rather than enjoying free mods and community maps, PC users will have to pay for downloadable content. And the money issues don't stop there: Modern Warfare 2 costs $10 more than most full-price PC games."

now the following describes MW2 as a PC FPS compared to other PC FPS games *this was written only on the MW2 PC review*


"Though it features a robust variety of playlists in which to ply your deadly trade, Modern Warfare 2's competitive multiplayer is still limited compared to modern standards and will likely disappoint many hardcore shooter fans"

now when talking about the console version the reviewer said this*console review*

"With a robust variety of playlists in which to ply your deadly trade, Modern Warfare 2's competitive multiplayer is the best in the series and one of the best available on consoles"

and with that I leave you with evidence that the PC version was indeed knocked down in score because it was being compared to other PC fps games.. thus pc having higher standards or different.. whatever you call it.... seacrest out

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OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

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No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

NerubianWeaver
No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|

He obviously didn't read what Kevin wrote either, an AAAA game on any platform is a remarkable game in any standard. ...or something to that effect, sorry if I got it wrong :P
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#525 big_smoke_666
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This can only mean that PC Gaming is doomed

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it's been doomed for so long when will it just die!?
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#526 Brainkiller05
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Read the review guidelines, PC has higher standards. Not sure why this thread is still going, there's nothing left to discuss.
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#527 ducati101
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[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

Ravensmash
No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|

He obviously didn't read what Kevin wrote either, an AAAA game on any platform is a remarkable game in any standard. ...or something to that effect, sorry if I got it wrong :P

Nobody said their not. Doesn't change the fact that games are judged against others on the same platform.
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#528 Kevin-V
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Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?WhenCicadasCry

It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

When I look at cases where the PC version did score higher--Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 jump right to mind--it's because on that platform, there was something that made the game soar, or conversely, made the other version(s) pale. In Metro 2033's case, movement and shooting in the X360 version was clunkier and looked worse than should have been expected. For Just Cause 2, not only were the PC's visuals extraordinary compared to other open-world PC games (AND the game ran like butter to boot), but the console aiming problems were seldom an issue on the PC.

You want an open-world PC game in which the PC version is far and away the superior version? Just Cause 2 is just that. I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

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#529 hd5870corei7
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Agree with KevinV there... :) Just Cause 2 runs excellent my HD 5870. And the graphics on max settings at a 1080p resolution look sooo much better than the console version, its almost as if they were running on medium. In my opinion.
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#530 ducati101
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?Kevin-V

It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

When I look at cases where the PC version did score higher--Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 jump right to mind--it's because on that platform, there was something that made the game soar, or conversely, made the other version(s) pale. In Metro 2033's case, movement and shooting in the X360 version was clunkier and looked worse than should have been expected. For Just Cause 2, not only were the PC's visuals extraordinary compared to other open-world PC games (AND the game ran like butter to boot), but the console aiming problems were seldom an issue on the PC.

You want an open-world PC game in which the PC version is far and away the superior version? Just Cause 2 is just that. I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

Lucky for me i never had any problems with GTAIV. I think my 2x GTX480 has something to do with that. Although i hear the patches have resolved the poor performance on lower spec machines.

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[QUOTE="Kevin-V"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?ducati101

It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

When I look at cases where the PC version did score higher--Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 jump right to mind--it's because on that platform, there was something that made the game soar, or conversely, made the other version(s) pale. In Metro 2033's case, movement and shooting in the X360 version was clunkier and looked worse than should have been expected. For Just Cause 2, not only were the PC's visuals extraordinary compared to other open-world PC games (AND the game ran like butter to boot), but the console aiming problems were seldom an issue on the PC.

You want an open-world PC game in which the PC version is far and away the superior version? Just Cause 2 is just that. I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

Lucky for me i never had any problems with GTAIV. I think my 2x GTX480 has something to do with that. Although i hear the patches have resolved the poor performance on lower spec machines.

I never had those problems people speak of in GTA4,so to me it´s by far the best version of the game.

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I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

Kevin-V

GTA IV runs poorly on consoles as well :|

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?Kevin-V

It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

When I look at cases where the PC version did score higher--Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 jump right to mind--it's because on that platform, there was something that made the game soar, or conversely, made the other version(s) pale. In Metro 2033's case, movement and shooting in the X360 version was clunkier and looked worse than should have been expected. For Just Cause 2, not only were the PC's visuals extraordinary compared to other open-world PC games (AND the game ran like butter to boot), but the console aiming problems were seldom an issue on the PC.

You want an open-world PC game in which the PC version is far and away the superior version? Just Cause 2 is just that. I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

Ironically, for me, Just Cause 2 ran horribly, and GTA4 ran flawlessly. :P

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?Kevin-V

It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

When I look at cases where the PC version did score higher--Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 jump right to mind--it's because on that platform, there was something that made the game soar, or conversely, made the other version(s) pale. In Metro 2033's case, movement and shooting in the X360 version was clunkier and looked worse than should have been expected. For Just Cause 2, not only were the PC's visuals extraordinary compared to other open-world PC games (AND the game ran like butter to boot), but the console aiming problems were seldom an issue on the PC.

You want an open-world PC game in which the PC version is far and away the superior version? Just Cause 2 is just that. I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

This Thread is Over. KevinV has come in and just killed it. Nuff said, moving on, thread needs be closed, editor has spoken, and the truth is out.

If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

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#535 NerubianWeaver
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[QUOTE="Kevin-V"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Ignoring the MP, the PCs singleplayer campaign is superior due to better graphics, true HD, ect, yet still gets scored lower? :?jedikevin2

It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

When I look at cases where the PC version did score higher--Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 jump right to mind--it's because on that platform, there was something that made the game soar, or conversely, made the other version(s) pale. In Metro 2033's case, movement and shooting in the X360 version was clunkier and looked worse than should have been expected. For Just Cause 2, not only were the PC's visuals extraordinary compared to other open-world PC games (AND the game ran like butter to boot), but the console aiming problems were seldom an issue on the PC.

You want an open-world PC game in which the PC version is far and away the superior version? Just Cause 2 is just that. I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

This Thread is Over. KevinV has come in and just killed it. Nuff said, moving on, thread needs be closed, editor has spoken, and the truth is out.

If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

No matter what you say it didn't got a higher score :|

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#536 jedikevin2
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@NerubianWeaver

So basing on your statement, you don't care if games are under a higher microscope depending on platform? All you care about is seeing a 10/10 score? Not only that but when you start the thread asking why there is no PC games with 10 and the editor has come in and explained you don't care and don't care what people say?

Remember, you started this thread with , "PC has no AAAA Game in the History of GamingI just noticed that. Not only this Gen but all the whole time. I wonder why?"

That has been answered by one of the editors of this website.

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#537 Arach666
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="Kevin-V"]

It's a given that the PC version of a multiplatform game is gonna look better. But MW2 on PC is getting compared to other PC shooters. I played that version, not the console versions, and while MW2 looks good, it looks no better than what you'd expect it to look like. If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

When I look at cases where the PC version did score higher--Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 jump right to mind--it's because on that platform, there was something that made the game soar, or conversely, made the other version(s) pale. In Metro 2033's case, movement and shooting in the X360 version was clunkier and looked worse than should have been expected. For Just Cause 2, not only were the PC's visuals extraordinary compared to other open-world PC games (AND the game ran like butter to boot), but the console aiming problems were seldom an issue on the PC.

You want an open-world PC game in which the PC version is far and away the superior version? Just Cause 2 is just that. I am surprised anyone would hold up the buggy, poorly performing GTA IV as such an example.

NerubianWeaver

This Thread is Over. KevinV has come in and just killed it. Nuff said, moving on, thread needs be closed, editor has spoken, and the truth is out.

If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

No matter what you say it didn't got a higher score :|

This response clearly shows that you don´t know what else to say and that you obviously lost your argument.

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[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

This Thread is Over. KevinV has come in and just killed it. Nuff said, moving on, thread needs be closed, editor has spoken, and the truth is out.

If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time.

Arach666

No matter what you say it didn't got a higher score :|

This response clearly shows that you don´t know what else to say and that you obviously lost your argument.

You should be made aware, nobody listens to Nerubian Weaver Players :P
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#539 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"]

No matter what you say it didn't got a higher score :|

Birdy09

This response clearly shows that you don´t know what else to say and that you obviously lost your argument.

You should be made aware, nobody listens to Nerubian Weaver Players :P

Very true indeed :D
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

NerubianWeaver

No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|

If the GTA4 for consoles deserver 10/10 then the pc version deserver 12/10 because the pc version is superior in every way. But as you know pc have higher standards so the games tend to score lower.

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[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

WhenCicadasCry

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

Me neither :|
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

That is not true. The PC version of GTAIV had prettier graphics, but was bugged and had a number of other big flaws as noted in the review.

No decent games on consoles? That comes from experience, does it? Your claim is completely false at that point. Though the OP has no right to state ridiculous claims about the PC, the same goes for the consoles.

clyde46

I have both versions, and I've never experienced these bugs on the PC. :roll:

Me neither :|

i have, even though i had a legitimate version i had the drunken camera effect that they put in to plague pirate users, it crashed every time i got in a black suv, it ran worse than crysis, the rockstar social club program would not shut off unless i manually ended the process, and all around glitches and crashes in the game. I got tired of it and just uninstalled the thing from my computer and am done with it.
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[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

MK-Professor

No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|

If the GTA4 for consoles deserver 10/10 then the pc version deserver 12/10 because the pc version is superior in every way. But as you know pc have higher standards so the games tend to score lower.

GTA IV (PC Version) only got 9.0
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"] No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|NerubianWeaver

If the GTA4 for consoles deserver 10/10 then the pc version deserver 12/10 because the pc version is superior in every way. But as you know pc have higher standards so the games tend to score lower.

GTA IV (PC Version) only got 9.0

Sigh, For sake of responding to anything the TC is stating again and putting a conclusion to the thread:

"If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time." - Kevin V Editor Gamespot July 10, 2010 Page 27 of this thread

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[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

OP needs to go and read the review criteria. Games are reviewed based on what is on the system at the current time. It's not the PCs fault that it has such a diverse library, and the reason why MGS and GTA4 got 10s is because the consoles had no decent games. :lol: As proven by GTA4, though being SUPERIOR on the PC, got rated lower then the console versions. :|

MK-Professor

No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|

If the GTA4 for consoles deserver 10/10 then the pc version deserver 12/10 because the pc version is superior in every way. But as you know pc have higher standards so the games tend to score lower.

And the games listed earlier (UC2, etc.) came after GTA4 and MGS4, thus putting them under higher standards due to time and the greater experience of the console generation.
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"] No Decent games? How about Uncharted 2, Gears Of War 2, Forza 3, God Of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption :| GTA IV is still a bad port even if they patch it that's why it got AAA :|HuusAsking

If the GTA4 for consoles deserver 10/10 then the pc version deserver 12/10 because the pc version is superior in every way. But as you know pc have higher standards so the games tend to score lower.

And the games listed earlier (UC2, etc.) came after GTA4 and MGS4, thus putting them under higher standards due to time and the greater experience of the console generation.

Hence why I claimed GTA4 and MGS4 got 10s... because there wasn't really any great games before them.

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#548 oajlu
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but PC has wow...

The game that generates more $ than any pc/video games in history.

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

If the GTA4 for consoles deserver 10/10 then the pc version deserver 12/10 because the pc version is superior in every way. But as you know pc have higher standards so the games tend to score lower.

And the games listed earlier (UC2, etc.) came after GTA4 and MGS4, thus putting them under higher standards due to time and the greater experience of the console generation.

Hence why I claimed GTA4 and MGS4 got 10s... because there wasn't really any great games before them.

And you believe there was no great games before those two? What about the previous games that laid the ground work for those games? Or the fact that all console games get hyped and ratings get bought, just to make them look better then what they really are.
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Its not just GameSpot, on Metacritic.com there is no PC game higher than 96. On the other hand, every other console DOES have one or two games, with the old PS2 and Xbox having a few over 96 as well. Considering that metacritic's full PC games list hass EVERY major PC game since the 90's, it is a bit humbling. Or it should be, but that won't stop them from thinking PC gaming is the best thing since sliced bread.