pc has the best hardware and games why do you denie?

It's not....I still own that 360 PRESENTLY. So I find it to bea huge advantage for me.mikasa

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[QUOTE="legol1"]Perfect hermit logic, first they will tell you the best graphics are on pc , but that kind of pc is expensive and they will tell you, you can play on a low end pc but low end pc have not so good graphics if you compare to a 360 and every time they will answer just upgrade it. LOLlegol1

I have no idea where you guys think you need a 1k pc just to beat the ps3 or 360, most console games are getting 30fps in dx9 mode. If you want to upgrade and you know what you want you could get a great gaming pc with a little elbow grease.

A couple of things to note: I am playing with all settings set to high at 1440x900. The number you see is my current number frames per second. You'll notice at the end I claim that it was running at about 30FPS; I know it was closer to 20. The in-doors areas give me around 40FPS most of the time. I just couldn't film that because I had to hold the camera and would need both hands to move and look. The 360 version is 720p and runs at 30fps or lower plus it's on medium settings this little $550 buck pc own the 360 :lol:

AMD 4600+ X2 processor - $95

ECS AMD690GM-M2 Socket AM2 Motherboard - $65

WINTEC AMPO DDR2-667 1GB stick RAM - $32

Maxtor (I think.) 250GB 7200RPM Hard Disk - $50

Sapphire 2600XT GDDR3 256MB Video Card - $105

Xclio Stablepower 460W Power Supply - $50

Atrix Case - $55

Windows XP OEM - $90

Running at higher settings than the 360 version with FRAPS running in the background :lol:

That proved you don't need a 1k pc to play bioshock at high settings on pc to get thoses graphics you need a 360 and a 720p hdtv that cost more:lol:

My gaming rig destroys the 360 Mighty ATI console Crusher !!

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Oh wow, what a new and revolutionary piece of info. The PC has the best hardware? Do you think? Gee whiz, thanks for enlightening me! :roll:

And I do not believe that PC games line-up is good enough to justify the price of new hardware.

My PC gaming strategy is quite simple: I stay one generation behind with my hardware.

So with the PC, I am always playing the good games from the last-gen.

That saves money, because I am nver buying cutting edge hardware.

ghored654321

if the pc library isnt good then stop gaming because the pc has the most AAA games each year and has the most AA games each year if you like bad games then buy a console

I didn't say it wasn't good.

I said it wasn't good enough to justify the price of new hardware.

you only need to spend around 150 more than a console and its so much better

For you perhaps its so much better but for me, its not. I rent many games a year (that I couldn't buy otherwise) so PC gaming is much more costly than just the extra $300 (not to mention other inherent problems but since we are discussing price....).

For you perhaps its so much better but for me, its not. I rent many games a year (that I couldn't buy otherwise) so PC gaming is much more costly than just the extra $300 (not to mention other inherent problems but since we are discussing price....).RaveRabbid

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]For you perhaps its so much better but for me, its not. I rent many games a year (that I couldn't buy otherwise) so PC gaming is much more costly than just the extra $300 (not to mention other inherent problems but since we are discussing price....).Vandalvideo

With online, anything can be a viable option. Regardless, I clearly said FOR ME not for everyone. Please read the statements carefully before posting.

With online, anything is a viable option. Regardless, I clearly said FOR ME not for everyone. Please read the statements carefully before posting.RaveRabbid

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]With online, anything is a viable option. Regardless, I clearly said FOR ME not for everyone. Please read the statements carefully before posting.Vandalvideo

To bad for them. Everyone I know does. But then again, I'm not referring to the 14 - 16 yr olds anyway. Oh, and I bet the next thing your going to say is........... many people don't have cars to drive to blockbuster?? But they have extra cash to buy a gaming rig?? Then there are those that don't know how to use the internet.......... I'm sure discussing .0001 % of the population with all the exact same problems is worth your time but not mine. Sorry.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]...What PC are you talking about?A good gaming PC for 400/550/750 dollars? >.> I find console gaming funner than PC gaming,console gamers are more...o.O expressional and easier to get along with in my opinion.When playing PC games,they only spam messages after getting a kill or never say nothing at all.You guys put to much emphasis on mods too,I downloaded too many mods to count for Source...and found only Source Forts,HL2 Synergy Coop,and Gary Mod 9to actually be fun...point is most mods suck but theyre treated as a godsend.They open up many possibilities,but majority of them dont come anywhere near the possibilites.Vandalvideo

Im sure your right that there are a plenty of user friendly communities,but overall comparing pc gamers to console gamers as being more open and expressing,xbox live gamers would lead.Half of the fun of an online game,for live anyways,is communication.Its fun talking and making jokes while playing,ive plenty many hours of CSS,HL2:DM and those mods and only came across 2 people that actually used there mic in the game like someone on live would.

O_o Theres also many many PC games that already have and have made their way to consoles,what does this has to do with this?Its not like majority of the live community will go to PC with it.

To bad for them. Everyone I know does. But then again, I'm not referring to the 14 - 16 yr olds anyway.RaveRabbid

.Half of the fun of an online game,for live anyways,is communication.Its fun talking and making jokes while playingO_o Theres also many many PC games that already have and have made their way to consoleskillab2oo5

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]For you perhaps its so much better but for me, its not. I rent many games a year (that I couldn't buy otherwise) so PC gaming is much more costly than just the extra $300 (not to mention other inherent problems but since we are discussing price....).Vandalvideo

But you have an internet cafe for $10/month unlimited play in your area and no blockbuster or local video store that has games. Yeah right.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]With online, anything is a viable option. Regardless, I clearly said FOR ME not for everyone. Please read the statements carefully before posting.Vandalvideo

AND it's NOT viable for EVERYONE to build a PC. Or to spend the extra money on a monitor when they have a TV. So what's your point again?

But you have an internet cafe for $10/month unlimited play in your area and no blockbuster or local video store that has games. Yeah right.mikasa

AND it's NOT viable for EVERYONE to build a PC. Or to spend the extra money on a monitor when they have a TV. So what's your point again?mikasa

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]To bad for them. Everyone I know does. But then again, I'm not referring to the 14 - 16 yr olds anyway.Vandalvideo

No it's not. But I do know more people know how to rent games vs. build a PC. Thanks for making a point for the consoles (again).

No it's not. But I do know more people know how to rent games vs. build a PC. Thanks for making a point for the consoles (again).mikasa

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]For you perhaps its so much better but for me, its not. I rent many games a year (that I couldn't buy otherwise) so PC gaming is much more costly than just the extra $300 (not to mention other inherent problems but since we are discussing price....).mikasa

But you have an internet cafe for $10/month unlimited play in your area and no blockbuster or local video store that has games. Yeah right.

LOL..... I just can't help but laugh everytime I hear the words "ZOMG internet cafe with $10 unlimited play". Just hope this dream comes true.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]AND it's NOT viable for EVERYONE to build a PC. Or to spend the extra money on a monitor when they have a TV. So what's your point again?Vandalvideo

yeah, right. You ever read the text on a 20" SDTV from a PC? They'd be lucky to log on yet alone surf the web to download drivers to keep it current.

yeah, right. You ever read the text on a 20" SDTV from a PC? They'd be lucky to log on yet alone surf the web to download drivers to keep it current.mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]No it's not. But I do know more people know how to rent games vs. build a PC. Thanks for making a point for the consoles (again).Vandalvideo

Non-techies don't know how. Believe me more people are way more confused by the inside of a PC than aren't. Also not everyone wants to put the time in just to safe a hundred or two-hundred bucks. If they wanted to play games they'd get a console. If htey wanted to do PC stuff AND play games as a bonus they'd buy a PC.

If everyone wanted to and knew how to build PCs Dell & HP wouldn't be leading in sales over home-built jobs.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]yeah, right. You ever read the text on a 20" SDTV from a PC? They'd be lucky to log on yet alone surf the web to download drivers to keep it current.Vandalvideo

And so have I...the text stinks unless you make it extra huge and sometimes you can't even change it.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="mikasa"]yeah, right. You ever read the text on a 20" SDTV from a PC? They'd be lucky to log on yet alone surf the web to download drivers to keep it current.mikasa

And so have I...the text stinks unless you make it extra huge and sometimes you can't even change it.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]yeah, right. You ever read the text on a 20" SDTV from a PC? They'd be lucky to log on yet alone surf the web to download drivers to keep it current.Vandalvideo

also you get better results on a TV at 640x480.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="mikasa"]yeah, right. You ever read the text on a 20" SDTV from a PC? They'd be lucky to log on yet alone surf the web to download drivers to keep it current.Vandalvideo

And so have I...the text stinks unless you make it extra huge and sometimes you can't even change it.

Wait which is it? Can you read the text perfectly fine? Or is it a problem for both platforms? You're consusing me. You first say its fine on the PC...but then say the 360 ALSO has that problem. How can it be a problem AND not a problem at the same time?

Wait which is it? Can you read the text perfectly fine? Or is it a problem for both platforms? You're consusing me. You first say its fine on the PC...but then say the 360 ALSO has that problem. How can it be a problem AND not a problem at the same time?mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Non-techies don't know how. Believe me more people are way more confused by the inside of a PC than aren't. Also not everyone wants to put the time in just to safe a hundred or two-hundred bucks. If they wanted to play games they'd get a console. If htey wanted to do PC stuff AND play games as a bonus they'd buy a PC.If everyone wanted to and knew how to build PCs Dell & HP wouldn't be leading in sales over home-built jobs.Vandalvideo

Right, And while there...if you add in their costs and buying their parts....you're better off just buying one off the shelf.

And name-calling is against the TOC so please cut it out.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Non-techies don't know how. Believe me more people are way more confused by the inside of a PC than aren't. Also not everyone wants to put the time in just to safe a hundred or two-hundred bucks. If they wanted to play games they'd get a console. If htey wanted to do PC stuff AND play games as a bonus they'd buy a PC.If everyone wanted to and knew how to build PCs Dell & HP wouldn't be leading in sales over home-built jobs.Vandalvideo

Right, And while there...if you add in their costs and buying their parts....you're better off just buying one off the shelf.And name-calling is against the TOC so please cut it out.mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Wait which is it? Can you read the text perfectly fine? Or is it a problem for both platforms? You're consusing me. You first say its fine on the PC...but then say the 360 ALSO has that problem. How can it be a problem AND not a problem at the same time?Vandalvideo

You must have a magic TV or one that takes digital input as any TV i've tried the RCA composite connection on stinks with PC. And anyone else that tried it will know it stinks too. So you lied yesterday. And it appears you are doing the same today. So I'm done with you again...if you can't tel the truth because you're afraid to admit you're wrong...what's the point in educating you? You clearly don't want to know anything outside of your fantasy world.

with no charge? and why would i want all that trouble just buy a 360 it is just plain fun .legol1

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"].Half of the fun of an online game,for live anyways,is communication.Its fun talking and making jokes while playingO_o Theres also many many PC games that already have and have made their way to consolesVandalvideo

Unreal Tournament,FEAR,Half Life,Counter Strike,Morrowwind,Team Fortress,Command and Conquer,LOTR:BFME,SystemShock(BioShock is kind of a sequal),Marathon,Duke Nuken(I think was PC before PS),Doom...those are some of the biggest of the biggest games for PC and theyve made it to consoles,theres many more.Again,what does this have to do with what were talking about?If a games multiplat...is that supposed to be bad?Most of my favorite games of all time (Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory,Halo,CoD2..etc) are multiplats,I heart multiplats.

You must have a magic TV or one that takes digital input as any TV i've tried the RCA composite connection on stinks with PC. And anyone else that tried it will know it stinks too. So you lied yesterday. And it appears you are doing the same today. So I'm done with you again...if you can't tel the truth because you're afraid to admit you're wrong...what's the point in educating you? You clearly don't want to know anything outside of your fantasy world.mikasa

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"].Half of the fun of an online game,for live anyways,is communication.Its fun talking and making jokes while playingO_o Theres also many many PC games that already have and have made their way to consoleskillab2oo5

Unreal Tournament,FEAR,Half Life,Counter Strike,Morrowwind,Team Fortress,Command and Conquer,LOTR:BFME,SystemShock(BioShock is kind of a sequal),Marathon,Duke Nuken(I think was PC before PS),Doom...those are some of the biggest of the biggest games for PC and theyve made it to consoles,theres many more.Again,what does this have to do with what were talking about?If a games multiplat...is that supposed to be bad?Most of my favorite games of all time (Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory,Halo,CoD2..etc) are multiplats,I heart multiplats.

[QUOTE="mikasa"]You must have a magic TV or one that takes digital input as any TV i've tried the RCA composite connection on stinks with PC. And anyone else that tried it will know it stinks too. So you lied yesterday. And it appears you are doing the same today. So I'm done with you again...if you can't tel the truth because you're afraid to admit you're wrong...what's the point in educating you? You clearly don't want to know anything outside of your fantasy world.Vandalvideo

Ah so you have a TV that takes VGA. Taht explains it. You and the other 10 peple with SDTV VGA sets...have fun. Most other SDTV are composite. Some are component which helps alot, but still that's the exception not the norm.

BTW: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/chump that doesn't sound like a nice name to me. So you've resorted to name calling and lying again. Got it!

Ah so you have a TV that takes VGA. Taht explains it. You and the other 10 peple with SDTV VGA sets...have fun. Most other SDTV are composite. Some are component which helps alot, but still that's the exception not the norm.mikasa

[QUOTE="mikasa"]Ah so you have a TV that takes VGA. Taht explains it. You and the other 10 peple with SDTV VGA sets...have fun. Most other SDTV are composite. Some are component which helps alot, but still that's the exception not the norm.Vandalvideo

Hmmm...I didn't see that ever in any of the price specs you listed for your PC.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"].Half of the fun of an online game,for live anyways,is communication.Its fun talking and making jokes while playingO_o Theres also many many PC games that already have and have made their way to consolesVandalvideo

Unreal Tournament,FEAR,Half Life,Counter Strike,Morrowwind,Team Fortress,Command and Conquer,LOTR:BFME,SystemShock(BioShock is kind of a sequal),Marathon,Duke Nuken(I think was PC before PS),Doom...those are some of the biggest of the biggest games for PC and theyve made it to consoles,theres many more.Again,what does this have to do with what were talking about?If a games multiplat...is that supposed to be bad?Most of my favorite games of all time (Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory,Halo,CoD2..etc) are multiplats,I heart multiplats.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="mikasa"]Ah so you have a TV that takes VGA. Taht explains it. You and the other 10 peple with SDTV VGA sets...have fun. Most other SDTV are composite. Some are component which helps alot, but still that's the exception not the norm.mikasa

Hmmm...I didn't see that ever in any of the price specs you listed for your PC.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]With online, anything is a viable option. Regardless, I clearly said FOR ME not for everyone. Please read the statements carefully before posting.Vandalvideo

Same reason that YOU think it's viable for all PC owners to use a TV inplace of a monitor. It's NOT a viable option for about 99% of the PC owning population. I can bet you less than 1% would even think of using the TV.

[QUOTE="legol1"]with no charge? and why would i want all that trouble just buy a 360 it is just plain fun .Vandalvideo

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="killab2oo5"].Half of the fun of an online game,for live anyways,is communication.Its fun talking and making jokes while playingO_o Theres also many many PC games that already have and have made their way to consolesVandalvideo

Unreal Tournament,FEAR,Half Life,Counter Strike,Morrowwind,Team Fortress,Command and Conquer,LOTR:BFME,SystemShock(BioShock is kind of a sequal),Marathon,Duke Nuken(I think was PC before PS),Doom...those are some of the biggest of the biggest games for PC and theyve made it to consoles,theres many more.Again,what does this have to do with what were talking about?If a games multiplat...is that supposed to be bad?Most of my favorite games of all time (Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory,Halo,CoD2..etc) are multiplats,I heart multiplats.

Yes,I listed a small amount of some very big name titles thats went to consoles,and im sure I can name many many more,but that would be getting off topic.

Same reason that YOU think it's viable for all PC owners to use a TV inplace of a monitor. It's NOT a viable option for about 99% of the PC owning population. I can bet you less than 1% would even think of using the TV. kingtito

Yes,I listed a small amount of some very big name titles thats went to consoles,and im sure I can name many many more,but that would be getting off topic.killab2oo5

you sound like a cow instead of just wait you its just pay and no the 360 version of bioshock is really good 9 on gamespot so just smile you have been owned HAHAHAlegol1