PC has the GTA 5 Killer; gets highest scoring game of 2013 (Sorry Yangire)

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

And just a 9 on metacritic, still good, but not good enough

heeweesRus

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]9.5>8. Keep up the damage control.

with_teeth26

A bunch of the lesser known sites on MC just throw high scores around when it comes to big games like TLOU since it allows for easy relationships with the publishers, which means review copies and paid trips to promo events (like the recent CoD reveal event in LA).

These sites don't give a damn about public image and credebility, they are just in it for the money and the perks. Look at the early reviews of SR IV, a bunch of sites gave it super high scores, and you probably haven't heard of any of them. They are just pandering to PR so they can get more review copies in the future and establish good relationships with the publisher.

That is why big blockbuster games will always have a higher MC average than indie games which are of similar quality.

I know this is pretty tangential but its important nonetheless. If you don't respond or respond calling me a "butthurt beardmit" or some such you only stengthen my argument.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"] 95 on MC >>>>>>>90heeweesRus

I could recommend you some bengay if that would help.

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

And just a 9 on metacritic, still good, but not good enough

heeweesRus

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

And just a 9 on metacritic, still good, but not good enough

heeweesRus

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]#SDCheeweesRus

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us >>>>>>>>> http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/gone-home

Industry Standard says no :(

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Metacritic > Gamespot

Keep up the damage control

Davekeeh

A bunch of the lesser known sites on MC just throw high scores around when it comes to big games like TLOU since it allows for easy relationships with the publishers, which means review copies and paid trips to promo events (like the recent CoD reveal event in LA).

These sites don't give a damn about public image and credebility, they are just in it for the money and the perks. Look at the early reviews of SR IV, a bunch of sites gave it super high scores, and you probably haven't heard of any of them. They are just pandering to PR so they can get more review copies in the future and establish good relationships with the publisher.

That is why big blockbuster games will always have a higher MC average than indie games which are of similar quality.

I know this is pretty tangential but its important nonetheless. If you don't respond or respond calling me a "butthurt beardmit" or some such you only stengthen my argument.

I knew someone who went to the CoD reveal event in LA this week (another person at the website I write for, here is the article, disclaimer about the trip being paid for by activision at the end). 

At the drink event the night before the reveal (at a 4 star hotel, all comped by activision) he talked to people from Armchair Empire and Canadian Online Gamers (both relatively obsure websites). This was on tuesday night, before the SR IV review embargo lifted. Both of them were joking about how they threw around high scores, discussing trips to London paid for by Bethesda and Germany by EA to race cars for a NFS promo event. 

The next day, low and behold, Armchair Empire award SR IV a 10 while Canadian Online Gamers give it a 94. Having played the game myself, I can safely say there is no way in hell the game deserves anything close to a 10. 

This is truth son, no conspiracy theories here. The games journalism indsutry is f*cked. I'm not saying MC is better than GS, just that MC isn't as reliable as you make it out to be, industry standard or not. 

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

A bunch of the lesser known sites on MC just throw high scores around when it comes to big games like TLOU since it allows for easy relationships with the publishers, which means review copies and paid trips to promo events (like the recent CoD reveal event in LA).

These sites don't give a damn about public image and credebility, they are just in it for the money and the perks. Look at the early reviews of SR IV, a bunch of sites gave it super high scores, and you probably haven't heard of any of them. They are just pandering to PR so they can get more review copies in the future and establish good relationships with the publisher.

That is why big blockbuster games will always have a higher MC average than indie games which are of similar quality.

I know this is pretty tangential but its important nonetheless. If you don't respond or respond calling me a "butthurt beardmit" or some such you only stengthen my argument.

with_teeth26

I knew someone who went to the CoD reveal event in LA this week (another person at the website I write for, here is the article, disclaimer about the trip being paid for by activision at the end). 

At the drink event the night before the reveal (at a 4 star hotel, all comped by activision) he talked to people from Armchair Empire and Canadian Online Gamers (both relatively obsure websites). This was on tuesday night, before the SR IV review embargo lifted. Both of them were joking about how they threw around high scores, discussing trips to London paid for by Bethesda and Germany by EA to race cars for a NFS promo event. 

The next day, low and behold, Armchair Empire award SR IV a 10 while Canadian Online Gamers give it a 94. Having played the game myself, I can safely say there is no way in hell the game deserves anything close to a 10. 

This is truth son, no conspiracy theories here. The games journalism indsutry is f*cked. I'm not saying MC is better than GS, just that MC isn't as reliable as you make it out to be, industry standard or not. 

The game sounded pretty damn good. I think I'll pick it up.  Suck it Last of Us :P

And GS is reliable? Even after the whole Kane & Lynch/Jeff Gerstmann fiasco?heeweesRus

"I'm not saying MC is better than GS, just that MC isn't as reliable as you make it out to be, industry standard or not." 

I meant to say "i'm not saying GS is better than MC"

Larger sites like GS should be more reliable since credebility and public image is more important to them (or at least should be *cough*ign*cough*). That you can call a conspiracy theory, makes sense to me though. 

Another proof that Minerva's Den team was the most talented one that ever worked on BioShock IP.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

A bunch of the lesser known sites on MC just throw high scores around when it comes to big games like TLOU since it allows for easy relationships with the publishers, which means review copies and paid trips to promo events (like the recent CoD reveal event in LA).

These sites don't give a damn about public image and credebility, they are just in it for the money and the perks. Look at the early reviews of SR IV, a bunch of sites gave it super high scores, and you probably haven't heard of any of them. They are just pandering to PR so they can get more review copies in the future and establish good relationships with the publisher.

That is why big blockbuster games will always have a higher MC average than indie games which are of similar quality.

I know this is pretty tangential but its important nonetheless. If you don't respond or respond calling me a "butthurt beardmit" or some such you only stengthen my argument.

with_teeth26

I knew someone who went to the CoD reveal event in LA this week (another person at the website I write for, here is the article, disclaimer about the trip being paid for by activision at the end).

At the drink event the night before the reveal (at a 4 star hotel, all comped by activision) he talked to people from Armchair Empire and Canadian Online Gamers (both relatively obsure websites). This was on tuesday night, before the SR IV review embargo lifted. Both of them were joking about how they threw around high scores, discussing trips to London paid for by Bethesda and Germany by EA to race cars for a NFS promo event.

The next day, low and behold, Armchair Empire award SR IV a 10 while Canadian Online Gamers give it a 94. Having played the game myself, I can safely say there is no way in hell the game deserves anything close to a 10.

This is truth son, no conspiracy theories here. The games journalism indsutry is f*cked. I'm not saying MC is better than GS, just that MC isn't as reliable as you make it out to be, industry standard or not.

looks pretty awesome, reminds me of old school pc adventure games. 

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

And just a 9 on metacritic, still good, but not good enough

Davekeeh

Game could get a 10 and nobody would care for this crap.

It's funny that you know someone who went to the CoD reveal event in LA this week, because so do I. here is the article

The guy I know was also at the drink event the night before the reveal (at a 4 star hotel like you said, not comped by activision though) but he also talked to people from Armchair Empire and Canadian Online Gamers. This was also on a tuesday night, before the SR IV review embargo lifted. Both of them were talking about serious matters like how it's very important to give games the right scores. The guy I know also mentioned that they had to pay their own trips to London and Germany and were a bit upset that Bethesda and EA didn't pay for them.

The next day, low and behold, Armchair Empire awarded SR IV a 10 because they think it's a good game, and Canadian Online Gamers gave it a 94.
Now having played it myself I can truly agree with their opinions on the game, and it seems that they know what they're talking about.

This is the truth. The gaming journalism is great these days. I'm just saying Metacritic is the industry standard.

Davekeeh

at least I got you to put some more effort into your trolling. gave me a good laugh. 

and you are right, MC is the industry standard. It just doesn't deserve to be. 

Game could get a 10 and nobody would care for this crap.

Mr_BillGates

Bringing up PC and MC is stupid.   PC doesn't have nearly the same amount of fanboy padding from magazines that Console games gets, resulting in higher averages for console games.  Infact our handful of PC magazines actually rate games lower (PC gamer, usually).

Gladly, we don't use MC here. Its even in the rules.  When you bring it up its hot air and means nothing.

DaveKeeh, you are blowing hot air and lost the debate

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

And just a 9 on metacritic, still good, but not good enough

heeweesRus

Don`t you mean 2013.:lol:

You don`t even know the year your metacritic darling released in.:lol:

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="MrYaotubo"] Yeah,I heard you say that several times before about high rated PC games this year,and you know what that means? That while you only have one game to brag about PC gamers have several lol,this month alone 3 AAAE´s already,and with stuff like Rome 2,Wasteland 2,Arma 3 among several others to still be released,well....you can see where this is going,by every great game your platfrom gets,the PC gets like 10. Keep the butthurt up! :lol:super600

Don`t you mean 2013.:lol:

You don`t even know the year your metacritic darling released in.:lol:

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="MrYaotubo"] Yeah,I heard you say that several times before about high rated PC games this year,and you know what that means? That while you only have one game to brag about PC gamers have several lol,this month alone 3 AAAE´s already,and with stuff like Rome 2,Wasteland 2,Arma 3 among several others to still be released,well....you can see where this is going,by every great game your platfrom gets,the PC gets like 10. Keep the butthurt up! :lol:super600

Don`t you mean 2013.:lol:

You don`t even know the year your metacritic darling released in.:lol:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us/critic-reviews

Playstation Official Magazine Australia

PlayStation LifeStyle

Playstation Official Magazine UK

PSX Extreme

LaPS3

PSX-Sense.nl

Playstation Universe

TotalPlayStation

PC doesn't have this kind of shit going on. MC will never count here.

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="MrYaotubo"] Yeah,I heard you say that several times before about high rated PC games this year,and you know what that means? That while you only have one game to brag about PC gamers have several lol,this month alone 3 AAAE´s already,and with stuff like Rome 2,Wasteland 2,Arma 3 among several others to still be released,well....you can see where this is going,by every great game your platfrom gets,the PC gets like 10. Keep the butthurt up! :lol:super600

Don`t you mean 2013.:lol:

You don`t even know the year your metacritic darling released in.:lol:

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Yet TLOU outscores every single one of them on MC and remains the highest scoring game since 2011.Vaasman

Don`t you mean 2013.:lol:

You don`t even know the year your metacritic darling released in.:lol:

I owned myself.

Bringing up PC and MC is stupid. PC doesn't have nearly the same amount of fanboy padding from magazines that Console games gets, resulting in higher averages for console games. Infact our handful of PC magazines actually rate games lower (PC gamer, usually).

Gladly, we don't use MC here. Its even in the rules. When you bring it up its hot air and means nothing.

DaveKeeh, you are blowing hot air and lost the debate

Jankarcop

I use Metacritic, deal with it

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

I use Metacritic, deal with it

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Don`t you mean 2013.:lol:

You don`t even know the year your metacritic darling released in.:lol:

super600

I owned myself.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

I use Metacritic, deal with it

heeweesRus

Even if you don't keep up with spreadsheet at the very least you can still own other factions by Gamespot scores and make fun of titles flopping here. If you don't agree with that then there's no place for you at System Wars. Go to General Games Discussion.  Not using Gamespot scores makes the whole System Wars loose any reason to exist.

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]We know it. That's because you can't play the SW game like a real man. 

AdrianWerner

Even if you don't keep up with spreadsheet at the very least you can still own other factions by Gamespot scores and make fun of titles flopping here. If you don't agree with that then there's no place for you at System Wars. Go to General Games Discussion.  Not using Gamespot scores makes the whole System Wars loose any reason to exist.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Neither can anyone else, considering the fact that the SW Metagame spreadsheet hasn't been updated in two years. Why should anyone bother playing by the silly little metagame, if we aren't even gonna keep track of the exclusives for each system? The metagame is irrelevant, deal with it.heeweesRus

Even if you don't keep up with spreadsheet at the very least you can still own other factions by Gamespot scores and make fun of titles flopping here. If you don't agree with that then there's no place for you at System Wars. Go to General Games Discussion.  Not using Gamespot scores makes the whole System Wars loose any reason to exist.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Neither can anyone else, considering the fact that the SW Metagame spreadsheet hasn't been updated in two years. Why should anyone bother playing by the silly little metagame, if we aren't even gonna keep track of the exclusives for each system? The metagame is irrelevant, deal with it.heeweesRus

Even if you don't keep up with spreadsheet at the very least you can still own other factions by Gamespot scores and make fun of titles flopping here. If you don't agree with that then there's no place for you at System Wars. Go to General Games Discussion.  Not using Gamespot scores makes the whole System Wars loose any reason to exist.

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Even if you don't keep up with spreadsheet at the very least you can still own other factions by Gamespot scores and make fun of titles flopping here. If you don't agree with that then there's no place for you at System Wars. Go to General Games Discussion.  Not using Gamespot scores makes the whole System Wars loose any reason to exist.

Vaasman

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Bullshit. People in SW have always used outside sources as ownage, there's no rules against it.heeweesRus

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Not as part of the system wars metagame they haven't.

Vaasman

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Even if you don't keep up with spreadsheet at the very least you can still own other factions by Gamespot scores and make fun of titles flopping here. If you don't agree with that then there's no place for you at System Wars. Go to General Games Discussion. Not using Gamespot scores makes the whole System Wars loose any reason to exist.

Ribnarak

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]SW Metagame is irrelevant, we've already established that fact. heeweesRus

Bullshit. People in SW have always used outside sources as ownage, there's no rules against it.heeweesRus

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]SW Metagame is irrelevant, we've already established that fact. heeweesRus

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Bullshit. People in SW have always used outside sources as ownage, there's no rules against it.AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]In that case so is metacritic, because I said so.

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Sorry but the Industry disagrees with you.heeweesRus

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Sorry but the Industry disagrees with you.heeweesRus

Then how is it more logical to use metacritic if they also add GS in the mix... and who knows what other reviewers out there.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Bullshit. People in SW have always used outside sources as ownage, there's no rules against it.heeweesRus

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Console industry does. Not PC one. Also, even on consoles the only part of it that agrees about it are publishers and they do it solely to avoid paying bonuses to developers. If that's your guideline..then damn...

Bebi_vegeta

Then how is it more logical to use metacritic if they also add GS in the mix... and who knows what other reviewers out there.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Sorry but the Industry disagrees with you.heeweesRus

Metacritic is the industry standard, which is why we use it. If Gamespot was the industry standard we would have used that

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]You obviously don't use Steam because Valve also uses metacritic, just check the side of a game's store page. And using MC as a guideline is 100x better than using the site that fired a man for giving Kane & Lynch too low a score.heeweesRus

Then how is it more logical to use metacritic if they also add GS in the mix... and who knows what other reviewers out there.

Which many other reviewers could be tainted if not biased aswell...

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Console industry does. Not PC one. Also, even on consoles the only part of it that agrees about it are publishers and they do it solely to avoid paying bonuses to developers. If that's your guideline..then damn...

AdrianWerner