PC, still the only console with MODS. Forgotten Hope 2.25 released

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#1 AdamPA1006
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Torrent is up for download, released this friday. The best mod to BF2. Check it out

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?lang=english

This is why PC gaming rules. Realistic and Historic gameplay, not available on any console.

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Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?
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#3 gamer-adam1
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why cant they get there own full verison game

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#4 DJ_Headshot
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except pc is not a console... But yeah mods are part of the reason pc gaming is so great console users will come in and tell you "I'll play the game the way its meant to be played and pay money for DLC isntead" The concept of free user made content is foreign to them.
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You can use mods on the PS3. For example- Unreal tournament 3.

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#6 N30F3N1X
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Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?siLVURcross

*sigh*

Some people here have never played a game with strong modding/mapping capabilities and its related community.

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#7 Yandere
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Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?siLVURcross

I don't see why not, even if you don't want to replay a game for one you can just get one to upgrade the game without adding any content.

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#8 DJ_Headshot
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You can use mods on the PS3. For example- Unreal tournament 3.

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its the only example :lol:
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#9 Chutebox
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Ps3 has at least one game with MODS. :P

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#10 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

You can use mods on the PS3. For example- Unreal tournament 3.

DJ_Headshot
its the only example :lol:

I'm very ignorant when it comes to mods, how do they work on the Ps3 and does Sony block it at all?
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#11 Brownesque
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Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?siLVURcross
No. Assuming you care about free videogames. I mean, if you don't like free videogames, fine. But you probably shouldn't be on this forum. Maybe you should pick up a hobby more in line with your interests.....do you like golf? Tennis? Shopping? This is a forum for videogamers.
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Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?siLVURcross
No reason not to care. We are all gamers looking for good games right?? Mods like Forgotten Hope 2 are incredible and more indepth then even the original game.
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#13 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"][QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

You can use mods on the PS3. For example- Unreal tournament 3.

Chutebox
its the only example :lol:

I'm very ignorant when it comes to mods, how do they work on the Ps3 and does Sony block it at all?

On Unreal Tournament 3, the only PS3 game with mod support, you basically download the mods online, say off moddb.com and load it up on a flash drive or some other transfer medium that can be detected by the PS3, load it up and presumably play it. On every other game your mods are a waste of time because no other PS3 game detects them. Sony doesn't manually block them, the software presumably just doesn't support modded content.
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WRONG. urt3 on the ps3 as mods. Sure its only one game but what it means is never again can Hermits say that PC is the only platform with mods

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#15 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

You can use mods on the PS3. For example- Unreal tournament 3.

DJ_Headshot

its the only example :lol:

Don't forget TEH ALMIGHTY LBP and Halo 3's Forge (or how was it called?).

No seriously, no offense. But there's just no contest.

I wish I could show off some videos of Starcraft/Warcraft maps or some random Source mod. Console players thinking those are mods makes me feel weird.

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#16 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?AdamPA1006
No reason not to care. We are all gamers looking for good games right?? Mods like Forgotten Hope 2 are incredible and more indepth then even the original game.

You know, really, I don't know about this free game thing. I prefer spending $10 for three maps on World at War. It's how we console gamers do things, and we LIKE it that way, damn it! Keep your content to yourself, I don't want any of this stuff some Jr. Software programmers spent 12 months building just for my amusement, I prefer buying Guitar Hero Van Halen and Call of Duty MIlkage for the DS.
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#17 uyiop0t
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Some of us care about certain franchises and games that appear on the consoles but not on the PC, that's also a reason we play console games.

You can't get Zelda on a PC.

You can get Final Fantasy on a PC (ff7), but you have to play it with a keyboard mouse unless you install a console-like controller but then why not just play it on the PS1 to begin with?

You can't play Jak and Daxter on a PC. Kingdom Hearts. Ninja Gaiden. Metroid. Star Fox.

There are pros and cons to each one. Why can't they just "coexist?"

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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?Brownesque
No reason not to care. We are all gamers looking for good games right?? Mods like Forgotten Hope 2 are incredible and more indepth then even the original game.

You know, really, I don't know about this free game thing. I prefer spending $10 for three maps on World at War. It's how we console gamers do things, and we LIKE it that way, damn it! Keep your content to yourself, I don't want any of this stuff some Jr. Software programmers spent 12 months building just for my amusement, I prefer buying Guitar Hero Van Halen and Call of Duty MIlkage for the DS.

Oh, leave them alone.

People who has never played Cats 'n' Mices on Starcraft or most major Half-Life/Unreal Tournament mods will never understand.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"] its the only example :lol: Brownesque
I'm very ignorant when it comes to mods, how do they work on the Ps3 and does Sony block it at all?

On Unreal Tournament 3, the only PS3 game with mod support, you basically download the mods online, say off moddb.com and load it up on a flash drive or some other transfer medium that can be detected by the PS3, load it up and presumably play it. On every other game your mods are a waste of time because no other PS3 game detects them. Sony doesn't manually block them, the software presumably just doesn't support modded content.

Ok, so if I'm understanding you correctly it's basically up to the developer to include mod support?

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#21 N30F3N1X
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Ok, so if I'm understanding you correctly it's basically up to the develop to include mod support?Chutebox

The developer can release editing toolsets to make things easier but it's not imperative for mods to work.

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PC is a console?
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#23 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"][QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

You can use mods on the PS3. For example- Unreal tournament 3.

N30F3N1X

its the only example :lol:

Don't forget TEH ALMIGHTY LBP and Halo 3's Forge (or how was it called?).

No seriously, no offense. But there's just no contest.

I wish I could show off some videos of Starcraft/Warcraft maps or some random Source mod. Console players thinking those are mods makes me feel weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJVITYC2Xs

DOTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_yhzso9kg

Enfo's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHsgisj1pJA&feature=related

Project Reality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ez9-fGdS0

Dystopia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G32_q_3es8E&feature=player_embedded

Black Mesa Source

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvFxFmiNF0w

Insurgency

etc AH YOU GET THE FRIGGIN' IDEAR.

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#24 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="AdamPA1006"] No reason not to care. We are all gamers looking for good games right?? Mods like Forgotten Hope 2 are incredible and more indepth then even the original game. N30F3N1X

You know, really, I don't know about this free game thing. I prefer spending $10 for three maps on World at War. It's how we console gamers do things, and we LIKE it that way, damn it! Keep your content to yourself, I don't want any of this stuff some Jr. Software programmers spent 12 months building just for my amusement, I prefer buying Guitar Hero Van Halen and Call of Duty MIlkage for the DS.

Oh, leave them alone.

People who has never played Cats 'n' Mices on Starcraft or most major Half-Life/Unreal Tournament mods will never understand.

Cat v mouse FTW Another fan favorite is sunken defense.
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#25 VanDammFan
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Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?siLVURcross

Not only that, but since when is the pc considered a console? TC you so silly...:)

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WRONG. urt3 on the ps3 as mods. Sure its only one game but what it means is never again can Hermits say that PC is the only platform with mods

13C
Can you name any major mods that the PS3 version does have?
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#27 lowe0
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except pc is not a console... But yeah mods are part of the reason pc gaming is so great console users will come in and tell you "I'll play the game the way its meant to be played and pay money for DLC isntead" The concept of free user made content is foreign to them.DJ_Headshot
Where do you get this assumption that it's completely foreign to us? Is it really that hard to comprehend that someone would have some knowledge of mods and still have a preference for the game as the developer created it? "You don't think like I do, so you must not know" is passed off as an argument waaaaay too often around here.
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"] Cat v mouse FTW Another fan favorite is sunken defense.

How strange, now I'm feeling nostalgic. If it wasn't for B.net's horrible latency I would run to play SC right away. I really need to remake those maps on SC2 as soon as I can and show off some serious modding to consolites *evil laugh*
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#29 N30F3N1X
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Where do you get this assumption that it's completely foreign to us? Is it really that hard to comprehend that someone would have some knowledge of mods and still have a preference for the game as the developer created it? "You don't think like I do, so you must not know" is passed off as an argument waaaaay too often around here.lowe0

Given the arguments that most consolites use, "completely foreign" isn't exactly right.

"Transcendental reality" fits much better.

It's not a matter of "still prefere to play the game how the developer made it", it's a matter of people saying that they don't care or make it ludicrously obvious they have -never- even tried one.

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#30 93soccer
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No offense to any hermits, but I like playing the game a developer wanted me to as without wasting more time to mod and play again just to make it look different
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#31 N30F3N1X
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No offense to any hermits, but I like playing the game a developer wanted me to as without wasting more time to mod and play again just to make it look different93soccer

This is what I was talking about, lowe. What you called mere assumption and generalization has now been proved.

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#32 psn8214
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PC, the only console with mods. PC is a console now?

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No offense to any hermits, but I like playing the game a developer wanted me to as without wasting more time to mod and play again just to make it look different93soccer
So your basically saying you have no idea what you are talking about...
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#34 psn8214
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No offense to any hermits, but I like playing the game a developer wanted me to as without wasting more time to mod and play again just to make it look different93soccer

Mods can greatly extend the life of a game though... some are good enough to be legitimate games themselves.

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#35 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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for all of those people saying "i want to play the game the way developers wanted." consider this: it was the developers own willing choice to have mod support, no one forced them they did it of their own free will and some advocate the modding of their game. so wouldnt modding be considered using the game in a way the developers wanted?
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#36 12345678ew
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FH2 sucks, project reality all the way man.... i mean a mod of a 2007 game that owns crysis graphically? how can i say no?
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"] On Unreal Tournament 3, the only PS3 game with mod support, you basically download the mods online, say off moddb.com and load it up on a flash drive or some other transfer medium that can be detected by the PS3, load it up and presumably play it. On every other game your mods are a waste of time because no other PS3 game detects them. Sony doesn't manually block them, the software presumably just doesn't support modded content.

Its wroth noting mods have to specifically 'baked' for PS3 use. Which is why certain mods, I think some total conversions and maps in particular (and mutators) just don't work for the PS3
No offense to any hermits, but I like playing the game a developer wanted me to as without wasting more time to mod and play again just to make it look different93soccer
Here is a shocker mod makers are *developers* and they are using the *toolsets* dervived from what original developers used. You don't need to waste any time, let the creative people make something interesting, download it and judge for yourself. As there is no financial risk you dont have to expect the same drivel publishers have developers push out for releases. Now lets go spend some MS points on a map pack woo! VALUE.
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#38 AdamPA1006
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FH2 sucks, project reality all the way man.... i mean a mod of a 2007 game that owns crysis graphically? how can i say no?12345678ew
PR has great visuals, but I think FH2's are better. I would check it out if you havent already
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No offense to any hermits, but I like playing the game a developer wanted me to as without wasting more time to mod and play again just to make it look different93soccer

You have no idea what you are talking about.

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Feature lists for my favorite mods.

Europa Barbarorum for Rome: Total War

Gray Wolves Expansion for SH3

Rise of Mankind for Civilization IV

Project Reality for Battlefield 2

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Extended list of Project Reality features not in BF2

Multiple Crewed tanks and APCs of all types.

Effective, shoulder fired anti-air (stinger, SA-7)

Craploads of new weapons like the RPG, M240, SA80(L85), SKS, Mosin Nagant, stinger, SA-7

4x4 km maps (largest BF maps are 1x1 km and actually only use something like 60% of the map area.

Constructable fortifications (MG nests, foxholes, firebase that allows spawning, tank traps, barbed wire, anti-air launchers, etc)

Destroyable buildings.

Russian, Taliban, Iraqi Insurgent, Chechen, and UK factions all with correct weapons, vehicles and aircraft(For Russia and UK).

Remote laser targeting for guided bombs.

Deployable grenade traps and IEDs for Chechnya, Insurgent, and the Taliban and drivable suicide cars for the Iraqi Insurgent faction.

Randomly placed capture points to make the game more dynamic.

Bayonets

Incendiary grenades and Molotov cocktails.

Civilian kit for the Taliban and Iraqi Insurgents. Very useful for scouting as they cannot be shot without penalties. They can be arrested though.

3d Aimpoint optic for the M4/M16

Dozens of awesome maps

Supply trucks that can deploy supply crates.

There's loads more but I can't remember all of it.

Edit: Oh and game play changes and weapon balances are incredibly important too.

No more horribly inaccurate guns, no more bunny-hopping like toads on the moon, no more grenade spam, no more claymore spam, no more ****spam.

Limited kit selection(No longer are half your team playing sniper). Some kits must be requested from a supply crate.

Vehicles have a much longer re-spawn timer so there's a penalty for using them in retarded, wasteful ways.

Because of limited kits and kits that are required for doing certain things, there is much less griefing and teamkilling over vehicles. (Airplanes and Choppers require the Pilot kit, All armored vehicles require a minimum of 2 crewmen equipped with crewman kits.

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#40 AdrianWerner
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why cant they get there own full verison game

gamer-adam1

it's easier to mod existing game than to build one from ground up. Especiallu since engines are expensive to make and license (altough UDK might change that). That said a lot of mod teams do go commercial eventually. Tripwire is the best example of that.

Also..Project Reality (best mod for BF2 by far) team is working on stand alone game too

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#41 AdamPA1006
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The man is right, some mods are can be standalone games themselves they are that good. PR and Forgotten Hope 2 are some of them. Just check out the trailer, these maps take hundreds of hours to make and are 50 times more detailed than the original BF2 maps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtDYlfuoy4o&feature=player_embedded
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#42 Vandalvideo
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PC, the only console with mods. PC is a console now?

psn8214
Technically? Yes.
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#43 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?Brownesque
No. Assuming you care about free videogames. I mean, if you don't like free videogames, fine. But you probably shouldn't be on this forum. Maybe you should pick up a hobby more in line with your interests.....do you like golf? Tennis? Shopping? This is a forum for videogamers.

lol thats all pc users care about are free games, even if those games are retail and the developer wants you to purchase them pc users still treat them as free.
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#44 InsaneBasura
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I was recently reminded of what a ****load of Source mods I've been missing out on over the years. I just kind of forgot there was such a thing as mods.

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#45 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] lol thats all pc users care about are free games, even if those games are retail and the developer wants you to purchase them pc users still treat them as free.

All console gamers care about is pre owned games with a $5 discount, and buying downloadable horse armour.
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#46 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Assuming you do care about mods to begin with. Right?WilliamRLBaker
No. Assuming you care about free videogames. I mean, if you don't like free videogames, fine. But you probably shouldn't be on this forum. Maybe you should pick up a hobby more in line with your interests.....do you like golf? Tennis? Shopping? This is a forum for videogamers.

lol thats all pc users care about are free games, even if those games are retail and the developer wants you to purchase them pc users still treat them as free.

That's like saying console gamers only care about getting milked for map packs and gimped online.
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#47 Verge_6
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Forgotten Hope is a shining example of why PC gaming is better than console gaming. It's massive, it's had years of effort put into it, it sports gigabytes of customs sounds, textures, animations, terrain, models etc., and it's free. Oh, and it continuously updates with more content, too (2.2 added a whole new theater of operations). It's easy to dismiss these kind of things if you've never really experienced them, but for those of us that have...we know what it's all about.

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#48 Einhanderkiller
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Whelp, time to reinstall Battlefield 2.
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#49 ducati101
Member since 2004 • 1741 Posts
[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] lol thats all pc users care about are free games, even if those games are retail and the developer wants you to purchase them pc users still treat them as free.

All console gamers care about is pre owned games with a $5 discount, and buying downloadable horse armour.

Ouch, owned badly.
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#50 RichardStallman
Member since 2009 • 1233 Posts
You can't get Zelda on a PC.uyiop0t
Yes you can, except TP I think. But that's another story.