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[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"]Mods are nowhere near the amazing feature people make them out to be; a lot of the time you wait three years for a tiny team to pump out a mod which is essentially the same game but re-skinned to look like something different ie 'Zomg star wars mod!' Brownesque
Someone's never looked into serious mods, it seems.
This is Forgotten Hope, the very mod this thread is about. As mentioned before, it's a mod for BF2. Thing is, the only thing it really uses from the game is the engine. That's how decked out it is. Forgotten Hope is singlehandedly larger in scale and content than just about ANY multiplayer game released TO DATE. The obvious inclusion of customized textures, terrain, skins, and models is apparent by the meager two screenshots I posted above, but what they do not display is the mod's ballistic system which takes into account the angle of projectiles, the damage they do over distance, how gravity affects them etc. etc. To call it one of those shoddy, half-assed Star Wars mods that one found for BF1942 is not just laughable, but a disservice to the dedicated team that has spent years making FH2 the amazing game it is today. To call it the same game as BF2 is just....well, it's unfathomable.
I've got a question....I haven't played FH2, and unfortunately their website is down or I'd forward this to their forums.
I play Red Orchestra....and while I find their tank models to be unsatisfactory as far as exact models of deflection, armor penetration, etc, they do actually have models for exact angle and thickness of every armor panel as well as the modeling of interior parts of the tanks.
You seem knowledgeable about the ballistics model in FH2 so I'm curious about the tanking in the mod. Does it have deflection model (do tank rounds sometimes bounce off a severely angled armored plate it would otherwise penetrate), consideration for the slope of the armored plate, adjustible tank sights, weak points, etc?
The stuff you've discussed makes it sound like a very advanced tank model at least on par with Red Orchestra.
By the way, what you've already said makes this mod easily beyond the ballistic model of any major shooter aside from like ArmA 2, Red Orchestra, maybe a handful of others. What I found hilarious was that Gamespot said STALKER, which I'm playing now, had one of the best ballistic models in games and that it made the gameplay much more interesting, whereas the only thing STALKER's ballistic model accurately identifies is recoil and to some degree a firearm's spread (both of which are totally inaccurate representations of the real thing). If it truly is the case that, as the Gamespot reviewer said, STALKER features one of the best ballistic models in games, clearly FH2 raises the bar to the point of it being psychotic for anyone to suggest that mods are not sufficiently on par with retail releases.
Just last night, I was in a Tiger tank and met face to face with an M-10 tank destroyer. The latter has incredibly sloped armor on the front, and he was slightly higher than me. I fired the vaunted 88, and watched in horror as it glanced off the frontal slope, and impacted into a nearby tractor, destroying it. He then proceeded to shove a 76mm shell through my flat frontal armor and reduce me to the Third Reich's most expensive burning scrap heap. The very same encounter happened today, but I had the higher ground to the point where my shell would hit his sloped armor at a perfectly straight angle. This made him explode with such force that it killed the nearby infantry. Then there's the fact that I've registered kills with low velocity projectiles because I fired from such a distance that they had time to arc downward and slam into the enemy tank from the top. I've even heard tales of some Panzergrenadiers bouncing Panzerfaust projectiles off the ground, making them skip to their targets, because they fired the weapon at such an angly that it didn't arm sufficiently enough to explode on impact with the terrain. In short, the FH2 ballistic system is second to none in my experience. 
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