PCs or Consoles : Which offers better gaming experience? (if you had to choose)

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="steve17989"]

This whole generation has been about devs moving to multiplatform development, it's not exclusive to the PC platform like you're implying. I thought the quality of games was more important than the sales of a platform? Also, with PC gaming dieing and all that, you'd think the PC wouldn't have the most developer support.

steve17989

It's 70% for PC, not PC and 360 combined. 43% were creating console bound games. Ports like you're describing are few and far between. It's true most multiplatform games are lead developed with a console, but the PC version is usually the best version of it. Batman: AA, Red Faction: Guerrilla, Resident Evil 5, NFS: Shift, GTAIV, Dead Space etc. These are all semi-recent multiplat games where the PC version is the best. Just because a console is the lead development system doesn't mean the PC version is a bad port. Games developed like this tends to keep down system requirements which is a good thing for budget PC gamers.

[QUOTE="dakan45"] None of your points have been valid so far, dead space did not sell well on pc quite the opposite i am afraid, also there are many bad ports. Gta iv, saints row 2, bully schollarship edition, godfather 2, mercanaries 2, ghostbusters, bionic commando...all of the qualiffied as bad ports from the reviews, only good ports are resident evil 5 which has awfully weird control and arkham asylum which i admit is amazingly well done but many people have noted tons of issues, i remember even someone mention it here on this forum. Even the pc exclusives like arma 2 stalker cleark sky and cryostasis are buggy and badly optinized. So i have to re think it and say pc fails in everythig no matter the development, i am better off with my ps3, it has no problems and pretty good control f you ask me...besides control schemes in games are made for consoles and not pc, so yeah the control is fine.washd123

dead space sold 1.4m copies across 3 platforms that means in order for it to have sold poorly on the pc itd have to sell significantly less than 45k copies. somehow i doubt it sold less than that.

GTA4 was bad for a day. ghostbusters wasnt bad at all. it runs flawlessly on my machine. same with bionic commando. and thats it how about Mass Effect,RE5,Batman AA,GTA4(patched),lost planet, and gears 1. some ports i know about. then theres almost every single multiplat game

lol calling games like those badly optimized is funny and now youre talking out your rear. required highend systems =/= badly optimized.

and good for you. if you feel your better with your ps3 then stick with it. but stop talking about pc gaming like you have any experience with it or know what youre talking about

To me, the best thing about PC is the multiplats, not the exclusives. Sure, it has more of them, but going by preference(which I believe what this thread is about), I prefer the exclusives to consoles more. Heck, I'm not huge on what PC are the very best at, like Simulation, RTSs and MMOs.

Consoles have more exclusives that interest me and all those multiplats, plus multiplats not found on PC, like most fighting games and I love fighting games, so it's consoles for me.

[QUOTE="steve17989"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Nice Article, is that what you call support? 70% developers work on x360/pc, thats why pc/x360 games are getting less and less, like Alan Wake for example, thats why those titles usually have windows live which is like xbox live. As you see its consoles everywhere, even make their marks clear in the pc versions and make the pc version look and play like its emulated or something. Where exactly is the support? Requiring powerfull rigs to play badly optimized games? There is no suppot from the developers, most of them focus on consoles and released a ported pc version, Its consoles firt and pc second and the quality of the product on pc is nothing more than a quick porting fro console to pc with no optimazation and many visible console markings.dakan45

It's 70% for PC, not PC and 360 combined. 43% were creating console bound games. Ports like you're describing are few and far between. It's true most multiplatform games are lead developed with a console, but the PC version is usually the best version of it. Batman: AA, Red Faction: Guerrilla, Resident Evil 5, NFS: Shift, GTAIV, Dead Space etc. These are all semi-recent multiplat games where the PC version is the best. Just because a console is the lead development system doesn't mean the PC version is a bad port. Games developed like this tends to keep down system requirements which is a good thing for budget PC gamers.

Well, you should atleast give exemple of games are troublesome on PC.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] None of your points have been valid so far, dead space did not sell well on pc quite the opposite i am afraid, also there are many bad ports. Gta iv, saints row 2, bully schollarship edition, godfather 2, mercanaries 2, ghostbusters, bionic commando...all of the qualiffied as bad ports from the reviews, only good ports are resident evil 5 which has awfully weird control and arkham asylum which i admit is amazingly well done but many people have noted tons of issues, i remember even someone mention it here on this forum. Even the pc exclusives like arma 2 stalker cleark sky and cryostasis are buggy and badly optinized. So i have to re think it and say pc fails in everythig no matter the development, i am better off with my ps3, it has no problems and pretty good control f you ask me...besides control schemes in games are made for consoles and not pc, so yeah the control is fine.dakan45

dead space sold 1.4m copies across 3 platforms that means in order for it to have sold poorly on the pc itd have to sell significantly less than 45k copies. somehow i doubt it sold less than that.

GTA4 was bad for a day. ghostbusters wasnt bad at all. it runs flawlessly on my machine. same with bionic commando. and thats it how about Mass Effect,RE5,Batman AA,GTA4(patched),lost planet, and gears 1. some ports i know about. then theres almost every single multiplat game

lol calling games like those badly optimized is funny and now youre talking out your rear. required highend systems =/= badly optimized.

and good for you. if you feel your better with your ps3 then stick with it. but stop talking about pc gaming like you have any experience with it or know what youre talking about

Super rig?

Anyway, Crysis has high requierement and it's still the best looking game... they usualy go hand and hand.

[QUOTE="steve17989"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Nice Article, is that what you call support? 70% developers work on x360/pc, thats why pc/x360 games are getting less and less, like Alan Wake for example, thats why those titles usually have windows live which is like xbox live. As you see its consoles everywhere, even make their marks clear in the pc versions and make the pc version look and play like its emulated or something. Where exactly is the support? Requiring powerfull rigs to play badly optimized games? There is no suppot from the developers, most of them focus on consoles and released a ported pc version, Its consoles firt and pc second and the quality of the product on pc is nothing more than a quick porting fro console to pc with no optimazation and many visible console markings.dakan45

It's 70% for PC, not PC and 360 combined. 43% were creating console bound games. Ports like you're describing are few and far between. It's true most multiplatform games are lead developed with a console, but the PC version is usually the best version of it. Batman: AA, Red Faction: Guerrilla, Resident Evil 5, NFS: Shift, GTAIV, Dead Space etc. These are all semi-recent multiplat games where the PC version is the best. Just because a console is the lead development system doesn't mean the PC version is a bad port. Games developed like this tends to keep down system requirements which is a good thing for budget PC gamers.

Two years ago I might be agreeing with you about PC ports, but now it seems more devs are creating good PC ports that actually are enhanced due to the PC's capabilities. Did you ignore all the other multiplatform games that I listed that are better on PC than console? If you have the know how and patience to handle the issues that come with owning a PC, PC gaming offers much more than console gaming ever will. You can sacrifice that for more ease-of-use, but that's your choice and I have nothing against that. What games won't get a sequel due to bad PC sales? Even look at Bad Company 2, it's making an appearance on PC even though the first one didn't, what does that tell you? PC gaming revenue has been rising, more often than not PC ports have been better than their console counterparts and you have nothing to back up your claims.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] All you get is console focused games. [QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Lets see, bad ports and many games that come out for ps3 and pc, apart from that pc has the best graphics, but neither the developers or gamers care, all the sales go to consoles and their games not pc. Overall pc is doing bad at this gen, if not bad then worse than the last gen and worse than the consoles. If you dissagree with that, then i would advice you to take a look around. Everyone plays on consoles instead of pc.dakan45

most of the people i know game on the pc but own a console. what bad ports? so far this gen i saw saints row 2 and mercs 2 . GTA4 was fixed in about a day.

the rest have been flawless better versions.

most games this gen are multiplat yeah that applies to the consoles as well guess they fail right?

and actually most of the time the pc version sells just as much as a single console usually more.

GTA4 was fixed... please, comeback once you played the game with the latest patches.

Wrong again, it sold about 32k on pc and according to EA its not enough to cleary give a pc version for dead space 2. Ghostbusters runs...well not terribly on my pc for its averag if not mediocre graphics but it has plenty of random framerate issues and a very loose control for some reason. High requirements= bad optimazation, thats what optimazation is. You say it runs well on your system? Well excuse me for not having a super rig with quad core and 8gb ram and gtx260...dakan45

then post it. i only saw the data that it sold 1.4m total and like i said if it sold less than 45m aka 1/3 then yeah thats bad. and no thats not what optimization is. wow. good job just proving your ignorance. its not about simply lowering your reqs its about making the most out of things.

example ARMAII game on an average gaming rig runs great on high settings with the draw distance at medium. yet try and max it out on anything but a highend rig and it fails. not bad optimization its a simple matter of it USING more resources at the higher settings.

bad optimization is when a game uses resoruces inefficiently ie if a game like doom3 used 2gb of system ram and 1gb of vram. thatd be bad optimization.

crysis and STALKER CS are two games that are wonderfully optimized. if you knew anything about hardware or software or pc gaming youd be able to understand this.

and my system now is hardly top of the line. and i was more refering to my old system with a dualcore 5000+ and a hd4830. which is a midrange system. hell now that i think of it it still ran fine on my laptop.

assuming both hooked up to a home theater and an HDTV...

and if you had to choose only one (i.e. you won't be able to play games on the other option)...

which option would you prefer to have for your gaming?

extremely powerful PC (anything you wish for; quad sli, cross-fire, etc... )

or

consoles

Mystery_Writer

I choose PC, but with a normal desk and monitor, I prefer this vastly over HDTV home theatre option.

Why PC? The answer is simply: games. There are hardly any games that interest me on consoles, while on PC there's more than I have time to play through.

Last gen I owned Dreamcast and PS2, this gen none of the consoles has yet gathered enough games in my tope for me to invest in them.

Plus lately I've been toying with playing pen and paper RPGs through net (first on IRC, now I'm learning virtual tabletop software) and this is awesome form of gaming (still not as good as real live PnP, but at the very least it beats the crap out of jRPGs, MMORPGs, wRPGs etc) and you just can't do it on consoles

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="washd123"]

dead space sold 1.4m copies across 3 platforms that means in order for it to have sold poorly on the pc itd have to sell significantly less than 45k copies. somehow i doubt it sold less than that.

GTA4 was bad for a day. ghostbusters wasnt bad at all. it runs flawlessly on my machine. same with bionic commando. and thats it how about Mass Effect,RE5,Batman AA,GTA4(patched),lost planet, and gears 1. some ports i know about. then theres almost every single multiplat game

lol calling games like those badly optimized is funny and now youre talking out your rear. required highend systems =/= badly optimized.

and good for you. if you feel your better with your ps3 then stick with it. but stop talking about pc gaming like you have any experience with it or know what youre talking about

Bebi_vegeta

Super rig?

Anyway, Crysis has high requierement and it's still the best looking game... they usualy go hand and hand.

super rig means $150- 400 on graphics card(s)surrealnumber5

a $150 gpu is hardly considered for a superrig

thatd be more like 2 $500 gpus or 3 $300 ones

Console. I've got several games on my PC, but I can't play worth a darn with a mouse and keyboard.

HAHAH consoles are for 14 year old kids that are noobs.PC is the king of the hill.Consoles are little plastic boxes of heat that have graphics like nintendo!.Can you play online with consoles or is it just single player?Furio12

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Wrong again, it sold about 32k on pc and according to EA its not enough to cleary give a pc version for dead space 2. Ghostbusters runs...well not terribly on my pc for its averag if not mediocre graphics but it has plenty of random framerate issues and a very loose control for some reason. High requirements= bad optimazation, thats what optimazation is. You say it runs well on your system? Well excuse me for not having a super rig with quad core and 8gb ram and gtx260...surrealnumber5

Super rig?

Anyway, Crysis has high requierement and it's still the best looking game... they usualy go hand and hand.

That's consider a super rig????????... then I guess a HD4850 is not a super rig... even if it can play most games on max settings?

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] super rig means $150- 400 on graphics card(s)washd123

a $150 gpu is hardly considered for a superrig

thatd be more like 2 $500 gpus or 3 $300 ones

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Super rig?

Anyway, Crysis has high requierement and it's still the best looking game... they usualy go hand and hand.

Bebi_vegeta

That's consider a super rig... then I guess a HD4850 is not a super rig... even if it can play most games on max settings?

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] super rig means $150- 400 on graphics card(s)surrealnumber5

a $150 gpu is hardly considered for a superrig

thatd be more like 2 $500 gpus or 3 $300 ones

no doubt a $90 gpu performs better than the consoles.

but i was referencing what a super rig would be

PC... Why would I ever choose a console over a PC?

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="washd123"]

a $150 gpu is hardly considered for a superrig

thatd be more like 2 $500 gpus or 3 $300 ones

washd123

no doubt a $90 gpu performs better than the consoles.

but i was referencing what a super rig would be

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

One Console Vs. A Super PC? PC by Far.

ALL the Consoles Vs. a Super PC?

Probably take all the consoles.

siLVURcross

I first got it on launch day, but I only got like a few trophies, and never went back to really immerse myself. After Batman, I've been wanting to play it, it's so much fun. I still haven't decided who I like yet though. :)

Console. I've got several games on my PC, but I can't play worth a darn with a mouse and keyboard.

rjxtian

consoles all the way..:)

PC. Consoles are too expensive.

PC + HDTV 1080p + 2.1 speakers > PS3 + Xbox360 + HDTV 1080p+ 5.1 speakers

Own all except for PS3! PC gives me a "fuller" experience.

I would go with consoles. Why? Because some of the genres i like the most are almost non existant on the pc. I also like the console feeling.

[QUOTE="Furio12"]HAHAH consoles are for 14 year old kids that are noobs.PC is the king of the hill.Consoles are little plastic boxes of heat that have graphics like nintendo!.Can you play online with consoles or is it just single player?surrealnumber5

Consoles easily for me. Ease of use and they have more of the games I like than the PC.

I'll take the PC, even if it is vs all the consoles.

Console, just for the split screensalxis

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Consoles, pc is doing prettty bad in alll sectors apart from graphics.dakan45

By having the most AAA, AA, and A games this gen, and the most AAAe, AAe, and Ae as well, on top of providing the best graphics available, the most customizability, and multimedia features the PC is doing pretty bad.

I'd take the PC over any current gen console easily.

Only way you'd get me to drop the PC is if I had to choose between the PC and something like the Genesis, SNES, and Dreamcast. Then I might have to side with consoles.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] None of your points have been valid so far, dead space did not sell well on pc quite the opposite i am afraid, also there are many bad ports. Gta iv, saints row 2, bully schollarship edition, godfather 2, mercanaries 2, ghostbusters, bionic commando...all of the qualiffied as bad ports from the reviews, only good ports are resident evil 5 which has awfully weird control and arkham asylum which i admit is amazingly well done but many people have noted tons of issues, i remember even someone mention it here on this forum. Even the pc exclusives like arma 2 stalker cleark sky and cryostasis are buggy and badly optinized. So i have to re think it and say pc fails in everythig no matter the development, i am better off with my ps3, it has no problems and pretty good control f you ask me...besides control schemes in games are made for consoles and not pc, so yeah the control is fine.dakan45

dead space sold 1.4m copies across 3 platforms that means in order for it to have sold poorly on the pc itd have to sell significantly less than 45k copies. somehow i doubt it sold less than that.

GTA4 was bad for a day. ghostbusters wasnt bad at all. it runs flawlessly on my machine. same with bionic commando. and thats it how about Mass Effect,RE5,Batman AA,GTA4(patched),lost planet, and gears 1. some ports i know about. then theres almost every single multiplat game

lol calling games like those badly optimized is funny and now youre talking out your rear. required highend systems =/= badly optimized.

and good for you. if you feel your better with your ps3 then stick with it. but stop talking about pc gaming like you have any experience with it or know what youre talking about

Me personally, I would chose my PS3 hooked up to my 1080p HDTV and surround sound.Javy03

No offense; but I often wonder why console users like to mention that they are on a 1080p TV. It's not like many of their games actually take advantage of that resolution.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Not true, eg No dead space for pc because the sales on pc where awfull...and not gta4 was not fixed and there are many bad ports ts not my fault you dont own any of them. It seems i am the only one who is making points instead of repeating the same fake transmission all over gain. "90% of the developers are making pc games" So know its mainsteam games pc vs consoles, in that category consoles win by defeault and sales. Also i thought pc had its own games, rts/rpg AAAs that make it simply a "no contest" with the consoles. I thought in the race pc vs consoles, pc is not in the contest because its games have a diffirent direction than the console mainstream games but now we made a comparison?dakan45

dead space sold well on the pc. and GTA4 is fixed youd know that if you were a pc gamer. also name another bad port. seriously. one thta was a BAD port and unplayable.

for every bad port theres 3 good ones.

none of your points have been valid at all so far. nice try though.

i said 90% of all developers are multiplat. because you act like its unique to the pc that devs are going multiplat.

HAHAH consoles are for 14 year old kids that are noobs.PC is the king of the hill.Consoles are little plastic boxes of heat that have graphics like nintendo!.Can you play online with consoles or is it just single player?Furio12

Consoles for me. Console had games I wanted to play.

360 for me. The PC version of FIFA 10 is terrible and Forza 3 can only be played on the 360.

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

By having the most AAA, AA, and A games this gen, and the most AAAe, AAe, and Ae as well, on top of providing the best graphics available, the most customizability, and multimedia features the PC is doing pretty bad.

I'd take the PC over any current gen console easily.

Only way you'd get me to drop the PC is if I had to choose between the PC and something like the Genesis, SNES, and Dreamcast. Then I might have to side with consoles.

imprezawrx500

If you own a ps3 and a wii, theres a buttload of games not on PC. Stop exaggerating.