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#1 carsales
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I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

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#2 SolidTy
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Nope, The Rest of the worlds critics disagree with your assessment (Plus, you've made a rep hating on the PS3)...and I disagree too.

I also OWN, PLAYED, and BEAT BOTH games. In fact, I own two copies of PD0, one collector's Edition, and a regular one, because I naively thought back then that It was going to be the LAN game for 360...COD2 pwns PD0.

In summary, your comparison completely fails.

KZ2 may not be the Super game of the century, but it's not average like PD0.

PD0 was SO average, that HALO 2 was being played on 360 until GeoW killed it off.

Buying a next gen game console and playing last gen games because of an average game being available shows how average PD0 was....if you refused to read the GAME CRITICS reviews around the world.

Perfect DARK N64 > Perfect Dark Zero 360

Killzone PS2 < Killzone 2 PS3.


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#3 Jackboot343
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But wasn't KZ2 an improvement over the first? I hear most people prefer the original PD compared to PD0.

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#4 clyde46
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PDO?

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#5 carsales
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perfect dark 0

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#6 mitu123
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Less than average, you mean under 7.0, I don't agree with you then.

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#7 mitu123
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But wasn't KZ2 an improvement over the first? I hear most people prefer the original PD compared to PD0.

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You speak the truth man, congrats. KZ2>KZ1 and PD>PDZ.
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Nope, The Rest of the worlds critics disagree with your assessment (Plus, you've made a rep hating on the PS3)...and I disagree too.

I also OWN, PLAYED, and BEAT BOTH games, whereas you just played it...

In summary, your comparison completely fails.

KZ2 may not be the Super game of the century, but it's not average like PD0.

PD0 was SO average, that HALO 2 was being played on 360 until GeoW killed it off.

Buying a next gen game console and playing last gen games because of an average game being available shows how average PD0 was....if you refused to read the GAME CRITICS reviews around the world.

Perfect DARK N64 > Perfect Dark Zero 360

Killzone PS2 < Killzone 2 PS3.


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yes becuase his opinion is wrong isnt it.
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#9 Nero_Paladin
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I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

carsales

An average score is 5 isn't it?

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#10 carsales
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[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

[QUOTE="carsales"]

I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

An average score is 5 isn't it?

I think average here would be a 7 most games get a seven or better.
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#11 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Nope, The Rest of the worlds critics disagree with your assessment (Plus, you've made a rep hating on the PS3)...and I disagree too.

I also OWN, PLAYED, and BEAT BOTH games, whereas you just played it...

In summary, your comparison completely fails.

KZ2 may not be the Super game of the century, but it's not average like PD0.

PD0 was SO average, that HALO 2 was being played on 360 until GeoW killed it off.

Buying a next gen game console and playing last gen games because of an average game being available shows how average PD0 was....if you refused to read the GAME CRITICS reviews around the world.

Perfect DARK N64 > Perfect Dark Zero 360

Killzone PS2 < Killzone 2 PS3.


yoyo462001

yes becuase his opinion is wrong isnt it.

Where did I say that?

I followed up his Opinion with the World's Gaming Critics Opinions and My Critique.

What's funny, is you also have a similar rep as he does, making this more about the PS3 vs. 360, than what it should be, which is saying KZ2 = PDZ.

His logic is flawed, so why did you feel the need to come after me and defend his flawed logic?

That's like pushing handicapped people onto the ground and out of your way, because you have an emergency, you want to tell a guy that his zipper is down.

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#12 Nero_Paladin
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[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

[QUOTE="carsales"]

I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

carsales

An average score is 5 isn't it?

I think average here would be a 7 most games get a seven or better.

Then i would agree, compared to the very best FPS games this gen those two dont stand up. And I think it will show at the end of the year (as it showed for PD0) for Killzone 2 at the many GOTY nominations and awards.

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I'll be the first to do it

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#14 Salt_The_Fries
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Perfect Dark Zero is one of the hardest games released this gen, if not the hardest one.
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#15 mitu123
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Perfect Dark Zero is one of the hardest games released this gen, if not the hardest one.Salt_The_Fries
You played Dark Agent, so did I and boy was it tough with no health regeneration and no checkpoints, though I didn't play Killzone 2's highest difficulty yet.
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Nope, The Rest of the worlds critics disagree with your assessment (Plus, you've made a rep hating on the PS3)...and I disagree too.

I also OWN, PLAYED, and BEAT BOTH games,whereas you just played it...

In summary, your comparison completely fails.

KZ2 may not be the Super game of the century, but it's not average like PD0.

PD0 was SO average, that HALO 2 was being played on 360 until GeoW killed it off.

Buying a next gen game console and playing last gen games because of an average game being available shows how average PD0 was....if you refused to read the GAME CRITICS reviews around the world.

Perfect DARK N64 > Perfect Dark Zero 360

Killzone PS2 < Killzone 2 PS3.


SolidTy

he said he owns and beat both games...

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I was in need of a good laugh. Thank you.
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#18 WilliamRLBaker
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Killzone 2 is so average it makes no evolutionary attempts and its multiplayer is literally just a Team fortress rip off.

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#19 onewiththegame
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Killzone 2 is so average it makes no evolutionary attempts and its multiplayer is literally just a Team fortress rip off.

WilliamRLBaker

the online mp in kilzone2 is amazing IMO

but I do think the graphic are overrated here on GS (cows)

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#20 SolidTy
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he said he owns and beat both games...

ogvampire

Okay, I missed that somehow, still, the relevance of my post remains unaffected.

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Killzone 2 is so average it makes no evolutionary attempts and its multiplayer is literally just a Team fortress rip off.

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They are very differnt
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#22 carsales
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

he said he owns and beat both games...

Okay, I missed that somehow, still, the relevance of my post remains unaffected.

your gamer score is insane. what are you playin on live
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#23 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

he said he owns and beat both games...

carsales

Okay, I missed that somehow, still, the relevance of my post remains unaffected.

your gamer score is insane. what are you playin on live

Dude, you name it, what haven't I played.

I rocked out on Rainbow Six, GRAW, Army of Two, COD2, COD4, COD5, Battlefield, GeoW, Geow2, Halo 3, PD0, Left 4 Dead, Soul Cali 4, SF4, RE5, Halo Wars, et cetera...I played a crap load of sweet games.I also try to get 1000 in my games instead of settling for 400 or whatever.

It helps that I got started in 2005...I love MP though, that's for sure.:)

Also, I have a rule, I must get at least ONE Gamerpoint in any game that goes in my 360, even if I find out it blows.So, if I borrow a game, and don't like it, like Vampire Rain, I still will play it to at least get a gamerpoint.

The only game I didn't do that with is that HORRIBLE Xbox Camera game (Totem?), that game is terrible. I thought it would be fun like Eyetoy on PS2, or Wii, but it's free and it blows.


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#24 carsales
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[QUOTE="carsales"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Okay, I missed that somehow, still, the relevance of my post remains unaffected.

SolidTy

your gamer score is insane. what are you playin on live

Dude, you name it, what haven't I played.

I rocked out on Rainbow Six, GRAW, Army of Two, COD2, COD4, COD5, Battlefield, GeoW, Geow2, Halo 3, PD0, Left 4 Dead, Soul Cali 4, SF4, RE5, Halo Wars, et cetera...I played a crap load of sweet games.I also try to get 1000 in my games instead of settling for 400 or whatever.

It helps that I got started in 2005...I love MP though, that's for sure.:)

Also, I have a rule, I must get at least ONE Gamerpoint in any game that goes in my 360, even if I find out it blows. The only game I didn't do that with is that HORRIBLE Xbox Camera game, that game is terrible. I can't remember the name, but it's free and it blows.

Totem or something.

I've gone thru 3 different gamer tags. So my score is behind I've given up on it. cod4 has sucked most of my time away. I went thru killzone2, I had a hard time getting used to the laggy conttolls that i went back to playin cod4, same thing happened to geow2. I guess i just love that game. so awesome.

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#25 carsales
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I also wish some of these games would do what halo 3 does with sound, I like the way the gunfire sounds when your on the other side of the map, This should be in all games that involve guns.

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#26 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="carsales"] your gamer score is insane. what are you playin on livecarsales

Dude, you name it, what haven't I played.

I rocked out on Rainbow Six, GRAW, Army of Two, COD2, COD4, COD5, Battlefield, GeoW, Geow2, Halo 3, PD0, Left 4 Dead, Soul Cali 4, SF4, RE5, Halo Wars, et cetera...I played a crap load of sweet games.I also try to get 1000 in my games instead of settling for 400 or whatever.

It helps that I got started in 2005...I love MP though, that's for sure.:)

Also, I have a rule, I must get at least ONE Gamerpoint in any game that goes in my 360, even if I find out it blows. The only game I didn't do that with is that HORRIBLE Xbox Camera game, that game is terrible. I can't remember the name, but it's free and it blows.

Totem or something.

I've gone thru 3 different gamer tags. So my score is behind I've given up on it. cod4 has sucked most of my time away. I went thru killzone2, I had a hard time getting used to the laggy conttolls that i went back to playin cod4, same thing happened to geow2. I guess i just love that game. so awesome.

What game do you love? Geow?

I think GeoW1 & GeoW2 might be my favorite MP games this entire Generation, I like GeoW more than KZ2 gameplay wise, but once you get moving on KZ2, it really does become fun.

I hated, I mean HATED the KZ2 Demo, and didn't buy the game until recently because I didn't like the Demo, The Reviews made me give the KZ2 another chance, and I'm glad I did. The controls were funky to me too, I went to options, and used Alternate 2.

Anyways, GeoW is awesome, if that's what you were talking about.

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#27 inertk
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I also wish some of these games would do what halo 3 does with sound, I like the way the gunfire sounds when your on the other side of the map, This should be in all games that involve guns.

carsales
Killzone does. It also sounds different when you fire next to different surfaces.
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#28 carsales
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[QUOTE="carsales"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Dude, you name it, what haven't I played.

I rocked out on Rainbow Six, GRAW, Army of Two, COD2, COD4, COD5, Battlefield, GeoW, Geow2, Halo 3, PD0, Left 4 Dead, Soul Cali 4, SF4, RE5, Halo Wars, et cetera...I played a crap load of sweet games.I also try to get 1000 in my games instead of settling for 400 or whatever.

It helps that I got started in 2005...I love MP though, that's for sure.:)

Also, I have a rule, I must get at least ONE Gamerpoint in any game that goes in my 360, even if I find out it blows. The only game I didn't do that with is that HORRIBLE Xbox Camera game, that game is terrible. I can't remember the name, but it's free and it blows.

Totem or something.

SolidTy

I've gone thru 3 different gamer tags. So my score is behind I've given up on it. cod4 has sucked most of my time away. I went thru killzone2, I had a hard time getting used to the laggy conttolls that i went back to playin cod4, same thing happened to geow2. I guess i just love that game. so awesome.

What game do you love? Geow?

I think GeoW1 & GeoW2 might be my favorite MP games this entire Generation, I like GeoW more than KZ2 gameplay wise, but once you get moving on KZ2, it really does become fun.

I hated, I mean HATED the KZ2 Demo, and didn't buy the game until recently because I didn't like the Demo, The Reviews made me give the KZ2 another chance, and I'm glad I did. The controls were funky to me too, I went to options, and used Alternate 2.

Anyways, GeoW is awesome, if that's what you were talking about.

I don't really like geow or halo,, I love cod4. the controlls are perfect imo.

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#29 carsales
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[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="carsales"]

I also wish some of these games would do what halo 3 does with sound, I like the way the gunfire sounds when your on the other side of the map, This should be in all games that involve guns.

Killzone does. It also sounds different when you fire next to different surfaces.

Alot of games do that, Halo does this cool little thing where the guns sound like they're firing off far in the distance not echo or anything like that. you'd have to here it to know what i'm talking about, Halo 3 of course the other halos don't do that.
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#30 inertk
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Shooters all play the same to me.

Edit: To respond to the post above, take a brief moment to look at my signature.

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#31 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="carsales"] I've gone thru 3 different gamer tags. So my score is behind I've given up on it. cod4 has sucked most of my time away. I went thru killzone2, I had a hard time getting used to the laggy conttolls that i went back to playin cod4, same thing happened to geow2. I guess i just love that game. so awesome.

carsales

What game do you love? Geow?

I think GeoW1 & GeoW2 might be my favorite MP games this entire Generation, I like GeoW more than KZ2 gameplay wise, but once you get moving on KZ2, it really does become fun.

I hated, I mean HATED the KZ2 Demo, and didn't buy the game until recently because I didn't like the Demo, The Reviews made me give the KZ2 another chance, and I'm glad I did. The controls were funky to me too, I went to options, and used Alternate 2.

Anyways, GeoW is awesome, if that's what you were talking about.

I don't really like geow or halo,, I love cod4. the controlls are perfect imo.

COD4 is in my TOP MP games this gen, for sure. It was fantastic....and it made me stop playing Halo 3(Not a fan of weapon spawns anymore). The controls of COD4 I changed as well, I switched the Melee from the analog stick to a button, but left everything else alone.

Also, I never liked KZ2 or it's hype, I never hyped it, I thought it was just going to be okay. So my low expectations were shattered. That happens with me for music and movies too, if they get overhyped, I scrutinize it more.

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#32 carsales
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[QUOTE="inertk"]

Shooters all play the same to me.

Edit: To respond to the post above, take a brief moment to look at my signature.

lol sorry. I guess you know what I'm saying.
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I think they're both kinda meh, tbqh, but I enjoyed KZ2 a bit more.

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I only played the demo of PDZ, but it was just awful. Awful crap. It's not fair to compare a full game to a demo so I'll just say KZ2's demo was far better than PDZ's demo.
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PDZ was the overrated shooter of this century. An 8 would have been a generous score for that game.
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PDZ was the overrated shooter of this century. An 8 would have been a generous score for that game. Zoso-8
Meh, I'll give it a 7, bad single player and lack of features from the original, good co-op and multiplayer with 32 players and bots.

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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Perfect Dark Zero is one of the hardest games released this gen, if not the hardest one.mitu123
You played Dark Agent, so did I and boy was it tough with no health regeneration and no checkpoints, though I didn't play Killzone 2's highest difficulty yet.

personally i think that mission 11 was the only trully dificult mission, the others were hard, but mostly doable.
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Perfect Dark Zero is one of the hardest games released this gen, if not the hardest one.mitu123
You played Dark Agent, so did I and boy was it tough with no health regeneration and no checkpoints, though I didn't play Killzone 2's highest difficulty yet.

It's tough as hell. I'm playing on Elite difficulty with cross-hairs and HUD taken off :o.
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Perfect Dark Zero is one of the hardest games released this gen, if not the hardest one.Episode_Eve
You played Dark Agent, so did I and boy was it tough with no health regeneration and no checkpoints, though I didn't play Killzone 2's highest difficulty yet.

It's tough as hell. I'm playing on Elite difficulty with cross-hairs and HUD taken off :o.

That's insane, but brave, I hope you beat it.
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#40 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Perfect Dark Zero is one of the hardest games released this gen, if not the hardest one.bingbaocao
You played Dark Agent, so did I and boy was it tough with no health regeneration and no checkpoints, though I didn't play Killzone 2's highest difficulty yet.

personally i think that mission 11 was the only trully dificult mission, the others were hard, but mostly doable.

Man, that mission is just, wow, it would had been easier if your teammates were, I don't know, smarter.
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Nope, The Rest of the worlds critics disagree with your assessment (Plus, you've made a rep hating on the PS3)...and I disagree too.

I also OWN, PLAYED, and BEAT BOTH games, whereas you just played it...

In summary, your comparison completely fails.

KZ2 may not be the Super game of the century, but it's not average like PD0.

PD0 was SO average, that HALO 2 was being played on 360 until GeoW killed it off.

Buying a next gen game console and playing last gen games because of an average game being available shows how average PD0 was....if you refused to read the GAME CRITICS reviews around the world.

Perfect DARK N64 > Perfect Dark Zero 360

Killzone PS2 < Killzone 2 PS3.


yes becuase his opinion is wrong isnt it.

Where did I say that?

I followed up his Opinion with the World's Gaming Critics Opinions and My Critique.

What's funny, is you also have a similar rep as he does, making this more about the PS3 vs. 360, than what it should be, which is saying KZ2 = PDZ.

His logic is flawed, so why did you feel the need to come after me and defend his flawed logic?

That's like pushing handicapped people onto the ground and out of your way, because you have an emergency, you want to tell a guy that his zipper is down.

Whats actually funny is your making it personal lol damage control haha
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#42 obamanian
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I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

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The difference is that PD0 looks amazing and has great lighintg, foliage and variety, while KZ2 does not have foliage, is in very dark places etc

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#43 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="carsales"]

I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

obamanian

The difference is that PD0 looks amazing and has great lighintg, foliage and variety, while KZ2 does not have foliage, is in very dark places etc

Oh no, Soalin, er, I mena Obamanian loves his Foliage. "I want moar Leaves in KZ2...Fable has teh awesomeness Leaves!"

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#44 mitu123
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="carsales"]

I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

SolidTy

The difference is that PD0 looks amazing and has great lighintg, foliage and variety, while KZ2 does not have foliage, is in very dark places etc

Oh no, Soalin, er, I mena Obamanian loves his Foliage. "I want moar Leaves in KZ2...Fable has teh awesomeness Leaves!"

That is pretty funny though, always talking about foliage and stuff.
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#45 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="carsales"]

I have both and beat both. they both recieved good scores from gamespot, were over hyped, and are less than average shooters,

btw I have played and beat both games. Cod4 is still the best console fps in my opinion.

obamanian

The difference is that PD0 looks amazing and has great lighintg, foliage and variety, while KZ2 does not have foliage, is in very dark places etc

Areyou actually attempting to imply PD0>KZ2? That sure is what it sounds like to me.

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#46 killerfist
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PDZ was dissapointing, Killzone however lived up to my expectations. I agree with the funky controlls tho, not a fan of them.
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PDZ maybe sucked for single player but its multiplayer was really deep that why it was great for me at least.
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#48 mitu123
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PDZ maybe sucked for single player but its multiplayer was really deep that why it was great for me at least.Syferonik
I wish more people played the multiplayer and co-op, it's fun.
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#49 Deathtransit
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You're just one of those dudes who wishes KZ2 played more like the almighty COD4. Just stick to COD4 if that floats your boat. I appreciate different types of gameplay. I personally enjoy KZ2 , R2, and UT3 over COD4 anyday.
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#50 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

The difference is that PD0 looks amazing and has great lighintg, foliage and variety, while KZ2 does not have foliage, is in very dark places etc

mitu123

Oh no, Soalin, er, I mena Obamanian loves his Foliage. "I want moar Leaves in KZ2...Fable has teh awesomeness Leaves!"

That is pretty funny though, always talking about foliage and stuff.

I definately loled. I thought it was funny too.