People down on NINTENDO because of IP's.... well....

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#1 Zandeus
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Hey COWs, how many IP's does SONY have?? Hmmmm...... and how many versions of them have we seen in the past couple years.

You all talk about Nintendo releasing Mario, Zelda & Metroid over and over again, yet there only 1 Mario game per generation, at least since the N64 anyways. Yet, Sony had how many Ratchet & CLanks last gen????? LIKE 3, i think.

So last gen we had 1 Mario,2 Zelda & 2 Metroid Prime games on the GC, oooooh.... WOW, yeah NINTENDO is just shovin' them out the door to make a quick buck, eh guys.... geez... give me a break.

Now take a look at Sony, they have what for IP's, GoW & Ratchet & Clank and I'm not sure what else, but last gen we saw 2 GoW's & 3 Ratchet & Clanks.....

So thats 5 total games from 2 IP's for Sony

and 5 total games from 3 IP's for Nintendo

Seems to me Sony is pushing sequels out the door more so than Nintendo. The only thing that Sony isn't doing that Nintendo is, is making sure that each title is top quality.

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#2 0bscurity
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Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.
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#3 88Ghost89
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I like Mario, Zelda and Metroid... ¬_¬

So...I hope they make more. Even though MP3 is the last of the prime series, and TP was the last Zelda as we knew it, and Galaxy will be the only Mario Adv/Plat this gen...

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#4 Bread_or_Decide
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Insomniac, Sucker Punch, and Naughty Dog are all doing new IP's before returning to the old favorites.

Thats juts something you don't see Nintendo doing anymore.

And when they do its Nintendogs or Wiifit.

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#5 Magical_Guy
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ever hear of Lair, Heavenly Sword, inFamous, Drake's Fortune, LBP......

Y asony has no new IP's just rehashed sequels, sony fails. :|

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Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.0bscurity

Yeah, they've stayed the same, with absolutely no changes.

The transition into 3D? Just a graphical upgrade.

Metroid becoming first-person? No big deal.

Super Mario Sunshine? Just Mario with a squirt gun.

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#7 Zandeus
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Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.0bscurity

LOL... you thinkMS will ever abandon the Halo IP???

If Sony ever gets an IP that could even be considered to be on the same playing field as Nintendo's big 3, do you think they'll just let it go, because it's been around forever and yet is still as popular as ever b4.... lol...... ya right.

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[QUOTE="0bscurity"]Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.Tsug_Ze_Wind

Yeah, they've stayed the same, with absolutely no changes.

The transition into 3D? Just a graphical upgrade.

Metroid becoming first-person? No big deal.

Super Mario Sunshine? Just Mario with a squirt gun.

Link is still finding the master sword and fighting gannon.

Mario still saving the princess from Bowser.

The stories never change. The characters never learn, grow, or change. Heck Sly Cooper had more of a story arc in three games then Mario has in 20 years.

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Thats four for Ratchet. Remember Deadlocked?

Then there was the Jak Series(3)

Then there are the Mario spinoffs like Mario Golf, Strikers, Tennis, etc.

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#10 Zandeus
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ever hear of Lair, Heavenly Sword, inFamous, Drake's Fortune, LBP......

Y asony has no new IP's just rehashed sequels, sony fails. :|

Magical_Guy

Really, Sony owns Factor 5.... Hmmm.... dont think so.

and way to not address that fact that Sony puts out more sequels of their IP's in shorter spans of time, than Nintendo does.... gee.... who's just milking the franchises???

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what about all the diffrent mario party games? isn't that making money from the same IP?
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#12 Zandeus
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Thats four for Ratchet. Remember Deadlocked?

Then there was the Jak Series(3)

Then there are the Mario spinoffs like Mario Golf, Strikers, Tennis, etc.

Hippostrike

Was Nintendo the developer on all those spin-offs?????

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Link is still finding the master sword and fighting gannon.

Mario still saving the princess from Bowser.

The stories never change. The characters never learn, grow, or change. Heck Sly Cooper had more of a story arc in three games then Mario has in 20 years.

Bread_or_Decide

So? Did Sly Cooper's gameplay change as signifigantly as Majora's Mask to Wind Waker, or 64 to Sunshine with its sequels?

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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

[QUOTE="0bscurity"]Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.Bread_or_Decide

Yeah, they've stayed the same, with absolutely no changes.

The transition into 3D? Just a graphical upgrade.

Metroid becoming first-person? No big deal.

Super Mario Sunshine? Just Mario with a squirt gun.

Link is still finding the master sword and fighting gannon.

Mario still saving the princess from Bowser.

The stories never change. The characters never learn, grow, or change. Heck Sly Cooper had more of a story arc in three games then Mario has in 20 years.

I didn't know Ganon was in Majora's Mask or Zelda II. I didn't know Bowser was in Mario 2. (U.S version anyways) Yawn. There has been one Mario Platformer for Gamecube and now one for Wii. There has been two Zelda's for Gamecube and one for Wii. Wow so many:roll:

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#15 88Ghost89
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what about all the diffrent mario party games? isn't that making money from the same IP?kiwisama

Hudson makes the Mario Parties, and Camelot makes a lot of the sports games...

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#16 Ontain
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Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.0bscurity

yeah they haven't changed at all since the nes right :roll:

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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

[QUOTE="0bscurity"]Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.Bread_or_Decide

Yeah, they've stayed the same, with absolutely no changes.

The transition into 3D? Just a graphical upgrade.

Metroid becoming first-person? No big deal.

Super Mario Sunshine? Just Mario with a squirt gun.

Link is still finding the master sword and fighting gannon.

Mario still saving the princess from Bowser.

The stories never change. The characters never learn, grow, or change. Heck Sly Cooper had more of a story arc in three games then Mario has in 20 years.

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#18 kiwisama
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[QUOTE="Hippostrike"]

Thats four for Ratchet. Remember Deadlocked?

Then there was the Jak Series(3)

Then there are the Mario spinoffs like Mario Golf, Strikers, Tennis, etc.

Zandeus

Was Nintendo the developer on all those spin-offs?????

and did SCEA develop R&C? no it was insomniac.

you fail.

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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

[QUOTE="0bscurity"]Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.Bread_or_Decide

Yeah, they've stayed the same, with absolutely no changes.

The transition into 3D? Just a graphical upgrade.

Metroid becoming first-person? No big deal.

Super Mario Sunshine? Just Mario with a squirt gun.

Link is still finding the master sword and fighting gannon.

Mario still saving the princess from Bowser.

The stories never change. The characters never learn, grow, or change. Heck Sly Cooper had more of a story arc in three games then Mario has in 20 years.

what about samus, starfox and pikmin? what about battalion wars and fire emblem?
just because their not famous doesn't mean they don't have story development, fire emblem especially has better character development than even final fantasy.
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Hey COWs, how many IP's does SONY have?? Hmmmm...... and how many versions of them have we seen in the past couple years.

You all talk about Nintendo releasing Mario, Zelda & Metroid over and over again, yet there only 1 Mario game per generation, at least since the N64 anyways. Yet, Sony had how many Ratchet & CLanks last gen????? LIKE 3, i think.

So last gen we had 1 Mario,2 Zelda & 2 Metroid Prime games on the GC, oooooh.... WOW, yeah NINTENDO is just shovin' them out the door to make a quick buck, eh guys.... geez... give me a break.

Now take a look at Sony, they have what for IP's, GoW & Ratchet & Clank and I'm not sure what else, but last gen we saw 2 GoW's & 3 Ratchet & Clanks.....

So thats 5 total games from 2 IP's for Sony

and 5 total games from 3 IP's for Nintendo

Seems to me Sony is pushing sequels out the door more so than Nintendo. The only thing that Sony isn't doing that Nintendo is, is making sure that each title is top quality.

Zandeus
Umm we saw over 129 Mario Games in the last 3 generations... Ive seen E *****ing Nuff of that italian
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#21 Blackbond
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I don't understand why we are bashing Sony and Nintendo in this thread. The real culprit is freaking Square-Enix. Man what a dissapointment they've become. More Final Fantasy's then Megaman and Mario combined.
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#22 akif22
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i'm glad nintendo keep using their franchises .. SMG looks amazing, as does MP3

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#23 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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I don't understand why we are bashing Sony and Nintendo in this thread. The real culprit is freaking Square-Enix. Man what a dissapointment they've become. More Final Fantasy's then Megaman and Mario combined.Blackbond

Hey, I'm all for bashing Square-Enix. :P

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#24 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I don't understand why we are bashing Sony and Nintendo in this thread. The real culprit is freaking Square-Enix. Man what a dissapointment they've become. More Final Fantasy's then Megaman and Mario combined.Tsug_Ze_Wind

Hey, I'm all for bashing Square-Enix. :P

Same here. I have no problems with Numbered Final Fantasy's but come on Square-Enix. Give us some games instead of spinoffs, remakes, ports ect. Oh yeah we get Last Remenant. Oh yeah....

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[QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="Hippostrike"]

Thats four for Ratchet. Remember Deadlocked?

Then there was the Jak Series(3)

Then there are the Mario spinoffs like Mario Golf, Strikers, Tennis, etc.

kiwisama

Was Nintendo the developer on all those spin-offs?????

and did SCEA develop R&C? no it was insomniac.

you fail.

lol WTH!!??!? How does he fail? lol

Looks like he's asking if Nintendo is the developer of the spin offs, not proclaiming(unless you pictured it as a sarcastic question)

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[QUOTE="0bscurity"]Mario, Zelda and and Metroid games were out before most of the people here were born... I think they could try SOMETHING new by now.Zandeus

LOL... you thinkMS will ever abandon the Halo IP???

If Sony ever gets an IP that could even be considered to be on the same playing field as Nintendo's big 3, do you think they'll just let it go, because it's been around forever and yet is still as popular as ever b4.... lol...... ya right.

Should I tell you some news about Halo? (its sad but I hope you can take the sad news) but Ill wait until someone ask for it.