People have seriously mixed-up views about "hardcore" and "casual

I said it.

"Hardcore gaming" doesn't mean "best graphics and M-rated", it means good skill at playing games.

One could be playing Angry Birds and if he were great at it he would be a "hardcore player".

Likewise, "casual gaming" doesn't mean "easy to pick up and play".

It means that you game for no real challange or achievement (i.e. for fun).

People should really stop using these terms all the time if they have zero clue about what either stands for (my opinion).

I said it.

"Hardcore gaming" doesn't mean "best graphics and M-rated", it means good skill at playing games.

One could be playing Angry Birds and if he were great at it he would be a "hardcore player".

Likewise, "casual gaming" doesn't mean "easy to pick up and play".

It means that you game for no real challange or achievement (i.e. for fun).

People should really stop using these terms all the time if they have zero clue about what either stands for (my opinion).

nameless12345

This is my personal definition about them two:-

Casual gamers are the guys who likes Nintendogs, Barbie games, and enjoy jumping and waving in front of their Kinect like an idiot.

Hardcore gamers are the guys who likes Uncharted, Killzone, God of War and sit on their ass with a controller in their hands and game like a real man.

This is my personal definition about them two:-

Casual gamers are the guys who likes Nintendogs, Barbie games, and enjoy jumping and waving in front of their Kinect like an idiot.

Hardcore gamers are the guys who likes Uncharted, Killzone, God of War and sit on their ass with a controller in their hands and game like a real man.

GamerwillzPS

those terms have zero meaning. By your definition im a casual gamer.....mems_1224

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

This is my personal definition about them two:-

Casual gamers are the guys who likes Nintendogs, Barbie games, and enjoy jumping and waving in front of their Kinect like an idiot.

Hardcore gamers are the guys who likes Uncharted, Killzone, God of War and sit on their ass with a controller in their hands and game like a real man.

Krelian-co

Hey look, the reason why this thread was made.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]those terms have zero meaning. By your definition im a casual gamer.....AcidSoldner

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]those terms have zero meaning. By your definition im a casual gamer.....mems_1224

Your opinion doesn't make sense to me. There have to be "another" term for being different. That's hardcore and casual. My definition makes sense.

Maybe there should be something in the middle of the two terms for a gamer who does a hybrid of both. To me, it seems that you're a hybrid.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]You mad that you're a casual? :lol:GamerwillzPS

Your opinion doesn't make sense to me. There have to be "another" term for being different. That's hardcore and casual. My definition makes sense.

Maybe there should be something in the middle of the two terms for a gamer who does a hybrid of both. To me, it seems that you're a hybrid.

One could be playing Angry Birds and if he were great at it he would be a "hardcore player".

nameless12345

ROFLMAO

Do you really believe that :lol: ?

I always figured a casual was someone who didn't game very often and only on occasion, and a hardcare was someone who gamed all the time, particuarly hard games as well.

Your opinion doesn't make sense to me. There have to be "another" term for being different. That's hardcore and casual. My definition makes sense.

Maybe there should be something in the middle of the two terms for a gamer who does a hybrid of both. To me, it seems that you're a hybrid.

GamerwillzPS

That's what we call *average* gamer, isn't it.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

One could be playing Angry Birds and if he were great at it he would be a "hardcore player".

N30F3N1X

ROFLMAO

Do you really believe that :lol: ?

I rolled on the floor laughing over this too.

>Angry Birds

>Hardcore

Does not compute!

Hardcore = Games that you like.

Casual = Games that you don't like.

According to System Wars ofcourse.

This thread is full of butt-hurt casual gamers who think their hardcore.

This is my personal definition about them two:-

Casual gamers are the guys who likes Nintendogs, Barbie games, and enjoy jumping and waving in front of their Kinect like an idiot.

Hardcore gamers are the guys who likes Uncharted, Killzone, God of War and sit on their ass with a controller in their hands and game like a real man.

GamerwillzPS

that's a pretty poor definiton of a hardcore gamer

I tend not to go by the labels anymore because they're all nonsense

I'd much rather be considered a casual gamer than a hardcore gamer, because it doesn't make me sound like a self-obsessed arrogant douchebag.

I'd much rather be considered a casual gamer than a hardcore gamer, because it doesn't make me sound like a self-obsessed arrogant douchebag.

UnrealLegend

"Hardcore gamer" is just a joke, as Dr Delta mentioned, who is more hardcore? The guy who plays Mario Kart every day religiously or the guy that plays Halo or Demon's Souls on occasion during his down time? There is no such thing as hardcore gamer, it's just a joke. There are only gamers, no gamer is more hardcore than another.

And btw, Mario Kart >>> Halo and Demon's Souls. Mario Kart kicks ass, I could play that all day....

People have different opinions on what it means. For me, core gamers buy plenty of niche games (on purpose) while casuals usually only buy mainstream games.Eponique

Core gamer actually just means the main fanbase of a system or game, core does not mean "hardcore". "Hardcore" is just a joke term that super nerdy D-bags use to look down on others so they can try and justify the lack of sex in their lives. Core simply means main fanbase, like 360 core audience are Halo fans, PS3 core audience are Uncharted fans, Wii core audience are Mario and Zelda fans ect...

Core does not mean hardcore. People get that confused. Hardcore doens't exist, core just main fanbase. No one in real life cares about wether a game is main stream or not.

"Hardcore gamer" is just a joke, as Dr Delta mentioned, who is more hardcore? The guy who plays Mario Kart every day religiously or the guy that plays Halo or Demon's Souls on occasion during his down time? There is no such thing as hardcore gamer, it's just a joke. There are only gamers, no gamer is more hardcore than another.

ShadowMoses900

True.

Everyone has different views and rarely do two people agree, let alone the entire gaming community.

Why? Because hardcore is a dumb sh*t buzz word and nothing more. Its a way of some gamers trying to glorify, or justify their hobby and tastes when at the end of the day they're just playing damn games. Gaming media realized that this was becoming a popular idea among gamers and now they use it as well to cater to these suckers, and massage the ego.

If you must have division between gamers then it goes like this.

CORE - You are that gamer that will invest a lot in the hobby. You spend a good amount of money on it each and every year. You buy multiple platforms, accessories and most importantly tons of games. In other words you are a safe bet for revenue streams. You are outnumbered by the casual gamers, but you spend enough to still get attention from publishers.

CASUAL - Not so invested in the hobby. May buy a new platform on occasion. Rarely buys games. Plays out of boredom, or to simply pass the time. Maybe you pull out that same old party game when friends are around. You dont spend much at all, but there are so many of you that publishers still want a piece of the pie.

That's really it. There is no hardcore.

I'd much rather be considered a casual gamer than a hardcore gamer, because it doesn't make me sound like a self-obsessed arrogant douchebag.

UnrealLegend

So you're saying every hardcore gamer is condescending towards everyone else.

Good to know, SW herpin' the derp as usual.

There's no such thing as hardcore and casual anybody who says other wise is a idiot.

Hardcore vs. casual... it's a simple matter of "you know it when you see it", in my opinion.

My impression of what the terms "hardcore" and "casual" mean are exactly in line with the TC. It just makes the most sense to me.

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

I'd much rather be considered a casual gamer than a hardcore gamer, because it doesn't make me sound like a self-obsessed arrogant douchebag.

N30F3N1X

So you're saying every hardcore gamer is condescending towards everyone else.

Good to know, SW herpin' the derp as usual.

No, I'm saying that the term itself is ridiculous. Nowhere did I say that the self-proclaimed "hardcore gamers" actually areself-obsessed arrogant douchebags.

I don't get why people don't like these terms and the word "Hardcore". They make sense. Casual gamers are people who don't play games very much and they tend to avoid technical games like Killzone, Gears of War, Uncharted, etc and play simple games from the Wii and Kinect. Hardcore are people like me who regularly play games and enjoy technical games.

Of course, there is a thing as "hardcore". I explained it clearly above. I know everybody are "gamers" and I'm a gamer too but if you think technically, you can describe them in a specific way such as "casual" and "hardcore".

Hardcore vs. casual... it's a simple matter of "you know it when you see it", in my opinion.

Vari3ty

That's what I think.

It's not something you can describe.

casual gamer is someone that just started gaming or that he doesnt plays very often, is someone that doesnt goes to internet searching for gaming news, reviews or posting on forums, is someone that if you ask him who is Hideo kojima? he does not know the answer BECAUSE A CASUAL GAMER DOESNT LOVE GAMES

casual gamer is someone that just started gaming or that he doesnt plays very often, is someone that doesnt goes to internet searching for gaming news, reviews or posting on forums, is someone that if you ask him who is Hideo kojima? he does not know the answer BECAUSE A CASUAL GAMER DOESNT LOVE GAMES

christiankhs-2

Exactly. That defines casual gamers. Hardcore, on the other hand, are like people on this forums and are willing to pursue gaming news.

I really don't know what's up with these people who said "there's no such thing as hardcore and casual"... and even some who thinks people who say they are hardcore to make them look "tough". :? Not true.

Let me get this clear. Do you realise you are all hardcore by using these forums? All of you guys are described as hardcore. Just because you are here. Would you expect a casual to be here? No, you wouldn't.

Let me get this clear. Do you realise you are all hardcore by using these forums?

GamerwillzPS

huh... no we're not

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Let me get this clear. Do you realise you are all hardcore by using these forums?

rilpas

huh... no we're not

Then why are you here?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Let me get this clear. Do you realise you are all hardcore by using these forums?

GamerwillzPS

huh... no we're not

Then why are you here?

because I love games, but that doesn't make me hardcore

I'd say out of all users I've seen on the gamespot forums, I could probably count gamers I'd call hardcore on two hands

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

huh... no we're not

rilpas

Then why are you here?

because I love games, but that doesn't make me hardcore

Yes, it does.

I'm interested to see your own meaning of "hardcore", so what is it? Something is wrong.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Then why are you here?

GamerwillzPS

because I love games, but that doesn't make me hardcore

Yes, it does.

I'm interested to see your own meaning of "hardcore", so what is it? Something is wrong.

hardcore, at least to me, has to do with time, dedication and skill

It doesn't matter if you play killzone or farmville, if you only do it every once in a while, or just for fun then you're not hardcore, out of every user I've met on gamespot, I could count the hardcore gamers on two hands

Yep. I agree with this.

Lately, people use "Hardcore" to refer to games with swearing and blood in. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS!

Everyone has different views and rarely do two people agree, let alone the entire gaming community.

Why? Because hardcore is a dumb sh*t buzz word and nothing more. Its a way of some gamers trying to glorify, or justify their hobby and tastes when at the end of the day they're just playing damn games. Gaming media realized that this was becoming a popular idea among gamers and now they use it as well to cater to these suckers, and massage the ego.

If you must have division between gamers then it goes like this.

CORE - You are that gamer that will invest a lot in the hobby. You spend a good amount of money on it each and every year. You buy multiple platforms, accessories and most importantly tons of games. In other words you are a safe bet for revenue streams. You are outnumbered by the casual gamers, but you spend enough to still get attention from publishers.

CASUAL - Not so invested in the hobby. May buy a new platform on occasion. Rarely buys games. Plays out of boredom, or to simply pass the time. Maybe you pull out that same old party game when friends are around. You dont spend much at all, but there are so many of you that publishers still want a piece of the pie.

That's really it. There is no hardcore.

sandbox3d

Replace the OP with this.