People have seriously mixed-up views about "hardcore" and "casual

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#51 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]People have different opinions on what it means. For me, core gamers buy plenty of niche games (on purpose) while casuals usually only buy mainstream games.ShadowMoses900

Core gamer actually just means the main fanbase of a system or game, core does not mean "hardcore". "Hardcore" is just a joke term that super nerdy D-bags use to look down on others so they can try and justify the lack of sex in their lives. Core simply means main fanbase, like 360 core audience are Halo fans, PS3 core audience are Uncharted fans, Wii core audience are Mario and Zelda fans ect...

Core does not mean hardcore. People get that confused. Hardcore doens't exist, core just main fanbase. No one in real life cares about wether a game is main stream or not.

Okay, I'll use the word gaming enthusiast then. The word "hardcore" sounds either too ridiculous or implies that someone is very skilled at a game which is not what I mean. And I disagree with your last statement. A lot of people only buy games like Call of Duty, God of War, Wii Sports or Kinect games because that's what all their friends have and they are simple fun/easy to get into.
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#52 HaloPimp978
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Hardcore who knows a lot of about games and casual is someone who doesn't know much and just plays the mainstream stuff like Halo, COD or Angry Birds.

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#53 ActicEdge
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Casual - don't think of games as a hobby.
Hardcore - Does not exist.

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#54 GunSmith1_basic
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i think of it more as "casual appeal" and "hardcore appeal". Casual appeal are stuff that you don't need previous knowledge and skills to appreciate. Stuff like graphics, novelties, story, and intuitive control. Hardcore appeal is deeper and requires more skill, understanding, and time to appreciate. This is stuff like well designed AI, deep characterization, attention to detail, challenge, and originality.
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#55 TilxWLOC
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My definition:

Core- Someone who cares about gaming, what is happening in it, and what is upcoming. Will not be scared off from playing good games because they have gimmicks or not-so-positive professional reviews.

Casual- Pretty much the opposite of core when it comes to what is happening in gaming, and trusting professional reviews for deciding if they will buy a game. On a side note, this is why I feel reviewers should be more objective and/or honest and display games that are not-so-well-known better. Casuals are also prone to buying flashy stuff, like PS3, and the Wii-mote. No, I'm not taking a shot at PS3/Wii owners, I'm speaking from experience.

Hardcore- Probably plays bullet hells.

"Core" and "casual" are industry terms used to separate two different demographics, they are quite useful in describing those demographics. That is how I see it.

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#56 Shrabsters
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The forum gamer crowd should get over using stupid labels. jg4xchamp
This.
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#57 mahlasor
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You are so hardcore if you go to the Legacy forum.;) I agree with the TC, that is a good definition of hardcore.

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#58 Strutten
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This is my personal definition about them two:-

Casual gamers are the guys who likes Nintendogs, Barbie games, and enjoy jumping and waving in front of their Kinect like an idiot.

Hardcore gamers are the guys who likes Uncharted, Killzone, God of War and sit on their ass with a controller in their hands and game like a real man.

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#59 skrat_01
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Eh? Quite frankly I think it has more to do with caring about games in terms of a 'hardcore' game player, and the requirements from the player and contents in terms of title.
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#60 speedfog
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Indeed TC, but you know we are on SW and most of the fanboys here use it to call theirself a hardcore gamer...

What will they say it the future if most of the games become motion controlled ?

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#61 hippiesanta
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kakakak.... topic creator tries to defend angry bird
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#62 nintendoboy16
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The forum gamer crowd should get over using stupid labels. jg4xchamp
This sums up my feelings on his BS.

Hardcore = Games that you like.

Casual = Games that you don't like.

According to System Wars ofcourse.

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That's how I see this as well.
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#63 g0ddyX
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

This is my personal definition about them two:-

Casual gamers are the guys who likes Nintendogs, Barbie games, and enjoy jumping and waving in front of their Kinect like an idiot.

Hardcore gamers are the guys who likes Uncharted, Killzone, God of War and sit on their ass with a controller in their hands and game like a real man.

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True.
I think a lot of Nintendo games are not for hard gamers.

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#64 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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What's not hardcore about staying up till 10 playing Farmville?

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#65 GamerwillzPS
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Why people even bother with labels (for anything) is beyond me. If you have to self-identify with an arbitrary identifier in order to feel special... rather than just enjoying things for what they are, then you aren't doin' it right.Zeviander

This is where people got it all wrong...

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My definition:

Core- Someone who cares about gaming, what is happening in it, and what is upcoming. Will not be scared off from playing good games because they have gimmicks or not-so-positive professional reviews.

Casual- Pretty much the opposite of core when it comes to what is happening in gaming, and trusting professional reviews for deciding if they will buy a game. On a side note, this is why I feel reviewers should be more objective and/or honest and display games that are not-so-well-known better. Casuals are also prone to buying flashy stuff, like PS3, and the Wii-mote. No, I'm not taking a shot at PS3/Wii owners, I'm speaking from experience.

Hardcore- Probably plays bullet hells.

"Core" and "casual" are industry terms used to separate two different demographics, they are quite useful in describing those demographics. That is how I see it.

TilxWLOC

Why are you using "Core"? Use the word "Hardcore".

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#67 KingKinect
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I don't see casual as an insult anyway. Hardcores will probably die of a heart attack at an early age if they don't learn how to stop being so wound up and relax. They seem to be on hater-aid 24/7.
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#68 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Honestly I just it as gaming enthusiasts and people who play games.

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#69 Utensilman
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Der, whoever doesn't know this is a f***ing jackass. then again we're probably dealing with the average age of 15 on SW
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#70 starjet905
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I'd say there are hardcore gamers and casual gamers, not hardcore games and casual games.
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#71 DragonfireXZ95
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I disagree. The casual gamer is a gamer who only picks up the popular games that all of his friends' are playing. Usually consisting of a popular game like Call of Duty that comes out once a year. This casual gamer plays only that game and doesn't really explore any other territories of gaming. A hardcore gamer checks out as many games as he/she can. Exploring various different types of games and becoming deeply engaged in many different games with and without friends.
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#72 starjet905
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]I disagree. The casual gamer is a gamer who only picks up the popular games that all of his friends' are playing. Usually consisting of a popular game like Call of Duty that comes out once a year. This casual gamer plays only that game and doesn't really explore any other territories of gaming. A hardcore gamer checks out as many games as he/she can. Exploring various different types of games and becoming deeply engaged in many different games with and without friends.

True, but wouldn't a hardcore gamer put more effort into whatever game he/she plays and actually attempt to improve at it? Even if the game is something like Angry Birds?
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#74 GamerwillzPS
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]I disagree. The casual gamer is a gamer who only picks up the popular games that all of his friends' are playing. Usually consisting of a popular game like Call of Duty that comes out once a year. This casual gamer plays only that game and doesn't really explore any other territories of gaming. A hardcore gamer checks out as many games as he/she can. Exploring various different types of games and becoming deeply engaged in many different games with and without friends.

Exactly. I'm glad that there's someone here who have a similar thoughts as me. Those who said otherwise just don't know what they are talking about.
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#75 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]I disagree. The casual gamer is a gamer who only picks up the popular games that all of his friends' are playing. Usually consisting of a popular game like Call of Duty that comes out once a year. This casual gamer plays only that game and doesn't really explore any other territories of gaming. A hardcore gamer checks out as many games as he/she can. Exploring various different types of games and becoming deeply engaged in many different games with and without friends.

True, but wouldn't a hardcore gamer put more effort into whatever game he/she plays and actually attempt to improve at it? Even if the game is something like Angry Birds?

That's what I mean by deeply engaged.
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#76 DethSkematik
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I prefer "Chronic Gamer" to describe people like me, who can stay up all night playing a videogame to unlock/find something that he cannot possibly rest until it's in his possession. But boy, is work brutal in the mornings! :P
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#77 TilxWLOC
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[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

My definition:

Core- Someone who cares about gaming, what is happening in it, and what is upcoming. Will not be scared off from playing good games because they have gimmicks or not-so-positive professional reviews.

Casual- Pretty much the opposite of core when it comes to what is happening in gaming, and trusting professional reviews for deciding if they will buy a game. On a side note, this is why I feel reviewers should be more objective and/or honest and display games that are not-so-well-known better. Casuals are also prone to buying flashy stuff, like PS3, and the Wii-mote. No, I'm not taking a shot at PS3/Wii owners, I'm speaking from experience.

Hardcore- Probably plays bullet hells.

"Core" and "casual" are industry terms used to separate two different demographics, they are quite useful in describing those demographics. That is how I see it.

GamerwillzPS

Why are you using "Core"? Use the word "Hardcore".

I don't consider "core" and "hardcore" to be the same thing. Core means the core audience, you know? The people developers are out to impress, not just draw in. I picture hardcore as people who are just off-the-walls, bat-sh**, insanely skilled at games, those people who master fighters, and other difficult games, like Japanese arcade games, and bullet-hells.

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#78 lazerface216
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The forum gamer crowd should get over using stupid labels. jg4xchamp

yup, anyone who calls themselves a "hardcore" gamer is lame, i can't take them seriously. a true gamer is someone who looks at videogames as a serious hobby, invests in it and puts proper time and effort into it.

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#79 zimmerman187
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I said it.

"Hardcore gaming" doesn't mean "best graphics and M-rated", it means good skill at playing games.

One could be playing Angry Birds and if he were great at it he would be a "hardcore player".

Likewise, "casual gaming" doesn't mean "easy to pick up and play".

It means that you game for no real challange or achievement (i.e. for fun).

People should really stop using these terms all the time if they have zero clue about what either stands for (my opinion).

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Casual means a games easy to play like kinectimals and only casuals care about achievements