People like to forget about the Big 3 here in SW

Fanboys start hating Nintendo for making casual/minigames games, saying they arent pleasing the hardcore audience and that gaming will end thanks to them. But still they cant list 5 Wii games that are casual/mini games made by Nintendo, while sheep can easily make a list of 8 Nintendo games made for the hardcore gamer in mind.

People, Nintendo is catering EVERYONE not just the casual, not just the hardcore, but to all of them, so please just stop saying that Nintendo is only appealing to casuals, because thats a BIG LIE.

We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.rhaigun

We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.rhaigun

They are the "Big 3 of the year" next year will also have more games.

EDIT: And Fire Emblem and BWii

We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.rhaigun

Yup. What exactly is coming after the big three? oh, mario kart. And disaster day of crisis...:shock: Seriously, the Wii gets bashed not just because of this but also because the big 3 are the same big 3 that were on the gamecube. Nintendo, where teh revolution?

TC, you know this topic gonna turn ugly really quick don't ya, anyway I agree with ya Nintendo is aimed for everyone and trying to add more people into playing games.. (even if their "mini games" )- fanboys was gonna say that. but their still games.Oroin

At least I tried to do something :P

We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.rhaigun

Plus Battallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem, how many hardcore first party games does Microsoft have scheduled for the rest of 2007?

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.fanboy-buster

They are the "Big 3 of the year" next year will also have more games.

EDIT: And Fire Emblem and BWii

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.z_gaming_master

Yup. What exactly is coming after the big three? oh, mario kart. And disaster day of crisis...:shock: Seriously, the Wii gets bashed not just because of this but also because the big 3 are the same big 3 that were on the gamecube. Nintendo, where teh revolution?

I know of them.

I just don't care for them.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.iunderstand

Plus Battallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem, how many hardcore first party games does Microsoft have scheduled for the rest of 2007?

[QUOTE="fanboy-buster"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.rhaigun

They are the "Big 3 of the year" next year will also have more games.

EDIT: And Fire Emblem and BWii

The rest of 2007? Why not all of it? I'm sorry that 3 is all you have this year.rhaigun

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.rhaigun

Plus Battallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem, how many hardcore first party games does Microsoft have scheduled for the rest of 2007?

Zelda, paper Mario, Prime 3, SSMB, SMG, BWii, Fire Emblem...

7 games......thats pretty good to me and also not counting 3rd parties

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.rhaigun

Plus Battallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem, how many hardcore first party games does Microsoft have scheduled for the rest of 2007?

All the Wii games mentioned in this thread are for the rest of the year as well.

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[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.fanboy-buster

Yup. What exactly is coming after the big three? oh, mario kart. And disaster day of crisis...:shock: Seriously, the Wii gets bashed not just because of this but also because the big 3 are the same big 3 that were on the gamecube. Nintendo, where teh revolution?

No, back then Mario was called 'Mario Sunshine' and it scored an 8.0. Galaxy is looking similar. I'm sure it'll be a much better game, the gravity effects especially look great, but its Mario. Again. Heck, from every video I've seen its a Mario platformer. I'm not sure what the Wii-mote is supposed to be doing for it, but it looks as if it could easily be accomplished on the GC.

It might have so called "hardcore" games as well, but I find it hard to believe that any "hardcore gamer" would be happy with the Wii alone. It just seems as if you need either a 360, PS3 or PC to go with the Wii if you wanna play "real games" more than just few hours a week. To me Wii is the most casual system out atm.EntwineX

[QUOTE="fanboy-buster"][QUOTE="z_gaming_master"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.z_gaming_master

Yup. What exactly is coming after the big three? oh, mario kart. And disaster day of crisis...:shock: Seriously, the Wii gets bashed not just because of this but also because the big 3 are the same big 3 that were on the gamecube. Nintendo, where teh revolution?

No, back then Mario was called 'Mario Sunshine' and it scored an 8.0. Galaxy is looking similar. I'm sure it'll be a much better game, the gravity effects especially look great, but its Mario. Again. Heck, from every video I've seen its a Mario platformer. I'm not sure what the Wii-mote is supposed to be doing for it, but it looks as if it could easily be accomplished on the GC.

Mario is a mascot, since the NES days Mario has been with Nintendo.

Mario platformers are rare since they are found 1 per generation.

And Mario isnt wearing a superssoaker on his back this time

[QUOTE="EntwineX"]It might have so called "hardcore" games as well, but I find it hard to believe that any "hardcore gamer" would be happy with the Wii alone. It just seems as if you need either a 360, PS3 or PC to go with the Wii if you wanna play "real games" more than just few hours a week. To me Wii is the most casual system out atm.nintendofreak_2

[QUOTE="z_gaming_master"][QUOTE="fanboy-buster"][QUOTE="z_gaming_master"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.fanboy-buster

Yup. What exactly is coming after the big three? oh, mario kart. And disaster day of crisis...:shock: Seriously, the Wii gets bashed not just because of this but also because the big 3 are the same big 3 that were on the gamecube. Nintendo, where teh revolution?

No, back then Mario was called 'Mario Sunshine' and it scored an 8.0. Galaxy is looking similar. I'm sure it'll be a much better game, the gravity effects especially look great, but its Mario. Again. Heck, from every video I've seen its a Mario platformer. I'm not sure what the Wii-mote is supposed to be doing for it, but it looks as if it could easily be accomplished on the GC.

Mario is a mascot, since the NES days Mario has been with Nintendo.

Mario platformers are rare since they are found 1 per generation.

And Mario isnt wearing a superssoaker on his back this time

I didn't mean in terms of graphics, I meant in terms of innovation. The Wii was supposed to be a 'revolution' that was what it was originally called. Yet I see nothing in Galaxy that couldn't be done with a standard controller. I'm sure they'll be a few things, but the concept and basics of design and control seem very familiar. And yeah, Mariohas been around since the NES,and he's been in 3D for a good 3 generations now. Isn't it time Nintendo changed the formula a little? I was hoping for that with Galaxy,but it seems to bepretty regular. Maybe the next Mario game.

It might have so called "hardcore" games as well, but I find it hard to believe that any "hardcore gamer" would be happy with the Wii alone. It just seems as if you need either a 360, PS3 or PC to go with the Wii if you wanna play "real games" more than just few hours a week. To me Wii is the most casual system out atm.EntwineX

At the moment, I'm happy with my Wii alone. 360 doesn't interest me with their top games being shooters. The PS3 is too expensive. There's nothing at the moment on PC that interests me. So just because you feel that the games don't suit you doesn't mean that you are more hardcore than a person who only owns a Wii.

I didn't mean in terms of graphics, I meant in terms of innovation. The Wii was supposed to be a 'revolution' that was what it was originally called. Yet I see nothing in Galaxy that couldn't be done with a standard controller. I'm sure they'll be a few things, but the concept and basics of design and control seem very familiar. And yeah, Mariohas been around since the NES,and he's been in 3D for a good 3 generations now. Isn't it time Nintendo changed the formula a little? I was hoping for that with Galaxy,but it seems to bepretty regular. Maybe the next Mario game. z_gaming_master

Since when did people become game watchers and not game players? At least play the game first before you try to say how this controls or that controls. :roll:

[QUOTE="z_gaming_master"]I didn't mean in terms of graphics, I meant in terms of innovation. The Wii was supposed to be a 'revolution' that was what it was originally called. Yet I see nothing in Galaxy that couldn't be done with a standard controller. I'm sure they'll be a few things, but the concept and basics of design and control seem very familiar. And yeah, Mariohas been around since the NES,and he's been in 3D for a good 3 generations now. Isn't it time Nintendo changed the formula a little? I was hoping for that with Galaxy,but it seems to bepretty regular. Maybe the next Mario game. Zhengi

Since when did people become game watchers and not game players? At least play the game first before you try to say how this controls or that controls. :roll:

I agree that playing is needed to find out how a game feels when played, but the controls themselves can be looked up easily, just go to wikipedia.

Sheep you seem to keep forgetting that the Gamecube was last place with the same damn Nintendo games you're hyping now.Lazy_Boy88

Sheep you seem to keep forgetting that the Gamecube was last place with the same damn Nintendo games you're hyping now.Lazy_Boy88

1 - The Wii is in first place.

2 - The games were hyped over the span of the GameCube's lifetime, these are all in a single holiday season.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.iunderstand

Plus Battallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem, how many hardcore first party games does Microsoft have scheduled for the rest of 2007?

Why do they have to be first-party?

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="z_gaming_master"]I didn't mean in terms of graphics, I meant in terms of innovation. The Wii was supposed to be a 'revolution' that was what it was originally called. Yet I see nothing in Galaxy that couldn't be done with a standard controller. I'm sure they'll be a few things, but the concept and basics of design and control seem very familiar. And yeah, Mariohas been around since the NES,and he's been in 3D for a good 3 generations now. Isn't it time Nintendo changed the formula a little? I was hoping for that with Galaxy,but it seems to bepretty regular. Maybe the next Mario game. z_gaming_master

Since when did people become game watchers and not game players? At least play the game first before you try to say how this controls or that controls. :roll:

I agree that playing is needed to find out how a game feels when played, but the controls themselves can be looked up easily, just go to wikipedia.

So now we've turned into game info readers rather than game players? Why don't you wait till the game comes out, play it, and then form your own opinion?

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.nintendofreak_2

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.emawk

Plus Battallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem, how many hardcore first party games does Microsoft have scheduled for the rest of 2007?

Why do they have to be first-party?

Just to show that Nintendo is releasing a tremendous amount of hardcore games this season when compared to their competitors.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.fanboy-buster

They are the "Big 3 of the year" next year will also have more games.

EDIT: And Fire Emblem and BWii

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]The rest of 2007? Why not all of it? I'm sorry that 3 is all you have this year.nintendofreak_2

[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Sheep you seem to keep forgetting that the Gamecube was last place with the same damn Nintendo games you're hyping now.iunderstand

1 - The Wii is in first place.

2 - The games were hyped over the span of the GameCube's lifetime, these are all in a single holiday season.

Maybe because its the fact that the leap this year has been alot bigger? Online is now standard, high-bar graphics aswell , huge multiplat selections of the finest 3rd PArty games ...

Microsoft has a decent comeptitive online with everything youd need and a decent hardrive of 20 gig normal , Sony has 60 GB , and an online that could be very well as good as Xbox360's by the end of the year , which also has a cool set of features ontop of that.

Wii? what isnt it something like 512 MB memory? No demo support? Absoluetly no real competitive online functionality? ( Of for god sake spare us the MARIO STRIKES/Pokemon colleseum and whatever thatthird game is again ...)

2 out of 3 of the big 3 games are single-player only ... and even worse, they are tired old franchises.

Nintendo has fallen behind in way more than games ... for the so called "hardcore" gamer ... or Id rather use the term competitive/enthuasiast gamers.

Dont get me wrong, I loved the Snes and N64 ... and had a gamecube which I wasnt so proud of ... bu my god ... they fall more behind with each generation ... theres only a certain ammount of first-party milkage I can stand..

You're kidding yourself if you think those will be on par with the Big 3. Fire Emblem and BW didn't fare as well as their handheld counterparts last gen.rhaigun

[QUOTE="EntwineX"]It might have so called "hardcore" games as well, but I find it hard to believe that any "hardcore gamer" would be happy with the Wii alone. It just seems as if you need either a 360, PS3 or PC to go with the Wii if you wanna play "real games" more than just few hours a week. To me Wii is the most casual system out atm.Zhengi

At the moment, I'm happy with my Wii alone. 360 doesn't interest me with their top games being shooters. The PS3 is too expensive. There's nothing at the moment on PC that interests me. So just because you feel that the games don't suit you doesn't mean that you are more hardcore than a person who only owns a Wii.

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Sheep you seem to keep forgetting that the Gamecube was last place with the same damn Nintendo games you're hyping now.Heil68

1 - The Wii is in first place.

2 - The games were hyped over the span of the GameCube's lifetime, these are all in a single holiday season.

:| You know what I meant. We all know the PC has the most units available, but in terms of consoles it is in first place.

Unless they changed fire emblem alot. It will not be good. It uses the GC hardware and uses gamecube controller and classic controller. The *** version at least did.GraveRIP

I think a lot of Sheep need to understand that to hardcore gamers, the Wii has almost an exact opposite problem that the PS3 does. People cap on the PS3 all day long for not having games right now, but we know that the library is going to get good later on. Sure, it gets old hearing "teh potential" arguments, but thats what it's got. On the other hand, the Wii has almost no potential, but it has some pretty good games coming out for it right now. The problem happens when you ask a Wii fan about what they are hyped for in '08 or '09? What happens if Nintendo abandons you? They already made their money on the hardware sale and of all the three companies making consoles right now, they have the least to gain from big software sales. Why can't you sheep just understand that the Wii is the system with the least potential? Sure, it can prove everybody wrong and keep the legitimate games coming out, but for a lot of people, crapping up their entertainment center with a new system that may or may not have anything to get excited about down the road is a hard act to swallow. Just as hard to swallow as a $500 system that doesn't have much going for it in the now..Ninpo_Osa

Wait a minute, wait a minute. So because Nintendo hasn't announced their 2008 lineup, they're not going to release any games at that time? If anything, we know too much about Sony's 2008 lineup. They were so desperate this year with there being no games, they had to completely focus all their attention to the 2008 lineup to save face. If the PS3 has so much potential, what great games are coming out for it THIS year. I can't play a game from 2008 right now. I can play a game from 2007 right now (or a lot sooner than 2008 games).

So you can hide behind the word potential all you want and claim the Wii doesn't have any, but you're completely wrong and trying to twist the issue around by deflecting attention from the anemic game lineup of the PS3 THIS year. Does this mean the PS3 has the least potential? No, no one is saying that. And for you to make the claim that the Wii has the least potential just because we don't know the 2008 lineup is hilarious.

Please, don't reach so far or else you'll tip the table over and fall flat on your face.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]You're kidding yourself if you think those will be on par with the Big 3. Fire Emblem and BW didn't fare as well as their handheld counterparts last gen.nintendofreak_2

[QUOTE="GraveRIP"]Unless they changed fire emblem alot. It will not be good. It uses the GC hardware and uses gamecube controller and classic controller. The *** version at least did.nintendofreak_2

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[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.Heil68

They are the "Big 3 of the year" next year will also have more games.

EDIT: And Fire Emblem and BWii

It has graphics. What? You expect us to play to a blank TV screen?

It has sound. So now you think the Wii doesn't output sound either?

It doesn't need HD. This is proven by the slow penetration of HD TV, HD programming, and people not buying the 360 and PS3 as fast as the Wii.

It has some online games and more are coming. Nintendo still needs to work on it though to make it better.

It will have third party games. Great games need more time to make. Imagine that concept, great games take time to make.

[QUOTE="emawk"][QUOTE="iunderstand"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]We know about the big 3. It's the fact that there are only 3 of them.iunderstand

Plus Battallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem, how many hardcore first party games does Microsoft have scheduled for the rest of 2007?

Why do they have to be first-party?

Just to show that Nintendo is releasing a tremendous amount of hardcore games this season when compared to their competitors.

But in the industry, the third-party developers are just as important (if not more) than Nintendo. Nintendo is releasing a lot of games, but so is Microsoft and Sony's first-party developers and bunch of equally important third-party developers.

First-party games and exclusive games are not the only things you should be focusing on. Good games are good games -- it doesn't matter where they comes from.