People who think Xbox One won E3 due to games are extremely shortsighted.

You're right. Despite all the exclusives, PS3 still ended up last. I guess I just had high expectations of the Sony conference due to all the cow hype lol

Then the conference happens, and we only get ONE new exclusive!? I know console exclusives don't matter around here, but TitanFall is a big coup for the Xbox, and its the main reason I'm seriously considering it.

RR360DD

Just like to point out that Wii came first and xbox 360 came last, in the over-all sales across the world xbox 360 has come last with ps3 over taking it about a year ago, sorry to burst your bubble.

link

link

Plus how many of the sales of xbox 360 were due to the over heating fiasco at the beginning of the consoles life. where people have had to go through 3 or 4 360's. who knows. o and xbox 360 had a year head start and still finished last hmmmmmm.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

You're right. Despite all the exclusives, PS3 still ended up last. I guess I just had high expectations of the Sony conference due to all the cow hype lol

Then the conference happens, and we only get ONE new exclusive!? I know console exclusives don't matter around here, but TitanFall is a big coup for the Xbox, and its the main reason I'm seriously considering it.

bezza2011

Just like to point out that Wii came first and xbox 360 came last, in the over-all sales across the world xbox 360 has come last with ps3 over taking it about a year ago, sorry to burst your bubble.

link

link

Plus how many of the sales of xbox 360 were due to the over heating fiasco at the beginning of the consoles life. where people have had to go through 3 or 4 360's. who knows. o and xbox 360 had a year head start and still finished last hmmmmmm.

IDC IDC IDC IDC

:P

Yeah those links were predictions from IDC. Not official. Sorry, but the 360 is still ahead. I thought maybe the PS3 would've overtaken it by now, and Sony would've mentioned it at their conference yesterda but no still last.

So yeah, 360 is still selling strong so I guess exclusives don't matter too much.

Microsoft won the E3 when it comes to games.

Sony won it when it comes to what people want; no DRM and better price point, stronger hardware.

Microsoft won the E3 when it comes to games.

Sony won it when it comes to what people want; no DRM and better price point, stronger hardware.

aroxx_ab

Totally agree.

I agree.

Sony seems to have shown more exclusives in E3, more gameplay videos compared with Microsoft's love to CGI clips, better hardware; spec wise and hardware appearance, no anti-consumer practices such as the mandatory Kinect, Internet connection and used games fees.

PS4 have won. It's seriously looking good. As a PC gamer, I'm actually tempted! A good weight of exclusives on the horizon, beautiful hardware, gamer-friendly and impressive price = pure win.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

You're right. Despite all the exclusives, PS3 still ended up last. I guess I just had high expectations of the Sony conference due to all the cow hype lol

Then the conference happens, and we only get ONE new exclusive!? I know console exclusives don't matter around here, but TitanFall is a big coup for the Xbox, and its the main reason I'm seriously considering it.

bezza2011

Just like to point out that Wii came first and xbox 360 came last, in the over-all sales across the world xbox 360 has come last with ps3 over taking it about a year ago, sorry to burst your bubble.

link

link

Plus how many of the sales of xbox 360 were due to the over heating fiasco at the beginning of the consoles life. where people have had to go through 3 or 4 360's. who knows. o and xbox 360 had a year head start and still finished last hmmmmmm.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

To those people saying that this E3 was all about games, you're wrong.  

arkephonic

Translation: "Sony didn't beat MS in games, so lets try to pretend thats not important anymore....along with having to pay for online."

No DRM and no always online are now the most important things EVER

I know you have a predetermined agenda, so I'll take your comments with a grain of salt, but as I already outlined, the success of systems isn't based on launch titles.  Consoles have 8+ year life spans now.  The 360 released in 2005 and it's 2013 now.  Plus, it's not like Microsoft had a significantly better showing of games than Sony did.  Both companies had a few exclusives and mostly multiplats to show.  Like I said, everyone is going to forget about the launch titles a year or 2 from now.  What they won't forget about is the online DRM and used game policies that they will be dealing with for the next 8+ years. 

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

Translation: "Sony didn't beat MS in games, so lets try to pretend thats not important anymore....along with having to pay for online."

No DRM and no always online are now the most important things EVER

timbers_WSU

I know you have a predetermined agenda, so I'll take your comments with a grain of salt, but as I already outlined, the success of systems isn't based on launch titles.  Consoles have 8+ year life spans now.  The 360 released in 2005 and it's 2013 now.  Plus, it's not like Microsoft had a significantly better showing of games than Sony did.  Both companies had a few exclusives and mostly multiplats to show.  Like I said, everyone is going to forget about the launch titles a year or 2 from now.  What they won't forget about is the online DRM and used game policies that they will be dealing with for the next 8+ years. 

Calm down, little fella :lol:

And yeah, I do agree with him.  No DRM and no online requirements are the most important thing of this E3.

Xbox One had the better games. I honestly didn't care about FF15, Infamous, or any of the games shown. (Not even KH3)

With that said, it took a while for me to come to grips that Microsoft doesn't care about any of their fanbase and Sony took the biggest dump on Microsoft by taking shots at the things that mattered the most- DRM, always online. (I could care less about the USED games policy)

I was a huge Xbox gamer; huge! But the fact that XboxOne is running a rental service and not a gaming console versus the PS4, which is going to keep gaming the way it is and essentially become the new XboxLive (with less restrictions. Afterall, even with regular PSN, you'll still be able to watch Netflix, download demos etc. While the 360 doesn't let you do the same.), says a lot. A LOT!!!

Also, Im sure there are a big number of Xbox gamers who are either going to jump ship or not buy the X1. The Xbox gamers left that want the X1 have to realize a few things-

1. If Microsoft's exclusives don't sell well on the X1, the devs will expand their audience. Those exclusives are on borrowed time.

2. Sony included ALL gamer types in their demographics. Their appeal has the least to do with who has a bigger wallet. Gamers want to own their games/console. Microsoft on the other hand implement online check in, DRM, Kinect required, lots of restrictions that's never existed in gaming before such as what you're allowed to do with your console/games. How does that not piss off XBros? EVEN THE WII U TOOK A STANCE AGAINST DRM lol

3. A decade down the line when some retro gamer wants to play some great 8th game; he/she will be able to do so on the WiiU/PS4. The X1's gonna be a brick. Which is the biggest issue with the X1. Having an online authentication system that RUNS ON THE CONSOLE's hardware is beyond stupid. Even cell phones are more serviceable being that they connect via any wi-fi. 

To sum everything up, if Microsoft kept things the way they are; I'd of easily said they won hands down. Superior controller, better games, better graphics (PS4 games didn't impress me in the graphics department much), but shitty policies. R.I.P DRMBOX.

PS4 won me over alone on the price. Wasnt really expecting it being so low. I confess I got p!ssed over the Pay2play online but having in mind I rarely, and I mean RARELY play online, a price of 399 euros is great for SP games. I know the Xbox still has some brainless zombies as fans but price is still a big factor when it comes to these type of decisions. I think the PS4 already won next gen

Vatusus

And this is why it's pointless to pay or play, on PS4 when you get too many kids and very casual gamers playing online. 

I won't even play my 360 unless it's connected to the internet. 

PS3 still ended up last.

RR360DD

Wrong.

My god man, learn to be concise.  :P

I've clicked on at least a dozen of your threads over the years and never read a single one.

Wiimotefan

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

PS3 still ended up last.

Cyberdot

Wrong.