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#1 mayceV
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"With Gears of War 3 out in April 2011, what will Microsoft have for holiday 2011? The Ball sees a redheaded girl in a spandex suit."

a direct quote from OXM, it goes on to hint at the 360 slim and dashboard redesign:

"A slimmer, redesigned 360 to be revealed at E3? Don't bet on it until the fall, when it's part of the Project Natal rollout. Expecting a 360 dashboard redesign to accompany Project Natal? Don't hold your breath, says the ball."

I just got PDZ, so of the people that don't blindly hate it because it wasn't like PD what do you want to see in the game? so far my only compliants about PDZ is that the cover system is too slow, they need to implement a sprint button, increase the walking speed ever so slightly, and add a jump button. Get that down thenput it in native 720p, add AA (man its a jaggy game in 4 player splitscreen), I haven't played past the first mission in SP soidk about if its as bad as people say, butpopular opinion says "IT REEKS!" so that should be a concern, but MP was great, do the stanard sequel stuff there, refine the artst*le and you get what I'd call amazingness. hope its not just a rumor though, really liked PDZ.

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http://inperfectdark.com/
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#3 foxhound_fox
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I'd rather see a PD2 come from Bungie before Rare (given that the original PD team is now with Crytek).

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#4 DarkLink77
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Well, I couldn't care less about pD now, tbh. A new Conker game, on the other hand.... :P

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#5 VendettaRed07
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I'd rather see a PD2 come from Bungie before Rare (given that the original PD team is now with Crytek).

foxhound_fox

that... would be awesome.

Yeah I really dont trust rare now

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#6 Hahadouken
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Meh, we all know Rare is no longer Rare, maybe they should quit while they're ahead. Maybe make a new IP but don't risk tarnishing the PD name. Just my .02 anyway.
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#7 theseekar
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Ok, now that was a blow

While Banjo 3, Pinata 2 and Kameo are some of the best games this generation, PD0 was crappy and did nto like it at all

From all games possible, they found THIS one to make ? Unbelievable

Anyway, not interested, hope they make Kameo 2 or a real game, than just another shooter, we have a billion such games for christ, but exremely few like all other Rare games

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#8 mayceV
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Meh, we all know Rare is no longer Rare, maybe they should quit while they're ahead. Maybe make a new IP but don't risk tarnishing the PD name. Just my .02 anyway.Hahadouken
but wait didn't people ay that PD hit rock botom when PDZ came out? doubt they are going to Nut& Bolts it (though I really love BK:N&B, way too addicted to that game, would like to see BK3 as a platformer though). I actually really like PDZ, and am excited for PD2. but to each his own I guess, right?
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#9 theseekar
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Meh, we all know Rare is no longer Rare, maybe they should quit while they're ahead. Maybe make a new IP but don't risk tarnishing the PD name. Just my .02 anyway.Hahadouken

I dont agree at all

Rare is still great, some of the most fun and unique games this generation came from them, and i can still play Banjo and Pinata 2, even Kameo and have lots of fun

It is edfinatly not Square case that was completly destroyed and has made some of the worst games of all time now (FF12 - FF13)

But PD is NOT something i would like to see from them, that is BS, why on earth make games they can't do well ?

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#10 kobraka1
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it would need alot of work to hold my interest. the game was to slow, the aiming never felt good, it took way to many shots to kill, the story sucked, the game was beautiful to look at but it was to dark, the enemies sucked, and i didnt care about the characters.

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#11 mattacular
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I put countless hours into PDZ after launch and putting aside the craptastic single-player it was a great game. I don't think I even got past the first few levels but online was great fun. I understand why many people hated it firstly it required a lot more skill than Halo or COD, auto aim was minimal and you had to wear down people's armour before getting the headshot. However, it was the most satisfying game to get headshots on and skilled players could destroy people with the basic pistols. You also had to keep full auto weapons to short bursts, so I think most people found it too difficult. Nevertheless it had some great ideas, infection for example was a great mode and it still plays out better than other games like halo. I desperately want a new PD as I think given the time PDZ was clearly not it could be a fantastic game.

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#12 mayceV
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

Ok, now that was a blow

While Banjo 3, Pinata 2 and Kameo are some of the best games this generation, PD0 was crappy and did nto like it at all

From all games possible, they found THIS one to make ? Unbelievable

Anyway, not interested, hope they make Kameo 2 or a real game, than just another shooter, we have a billion such games for christ, but exremely few like all other Rare games

don't sweat it, remember Rare has like 3 dev teams, who's to say one isn't battletoads or another Banjo/ Kameo.
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don't sweat it, remember Rare has like 3 dev teams, who's to say one isn't battletoads or another Banjo/ Kameo.mayceV

Microsoft. Kameo 2 was in development and then canceled on Microsoft's behalf in favour of NATAL projects.

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#14 G-O-M-J
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Sweet! looking forward to it.
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#15 kozzy1234
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Perfect Dark Zero = Extremely underrated multiplayer but horrible singleplayer

Id buy a new one forsure.

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#16 theseekar
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[QUOTE="mayceV"]don't sweat it, remember Rare has like 3 dev teams, who's to say one isn't battletoads or another Banjo/ Kameo.foxhound_fox


Microsoft. Kameo 2 was in development and then canceled on Microsoft's behalf in favour of NATAL projects.

That is nice, i am sure they will resume Kameo 2 at some point, or have it for xbox 720 launch anyway

But PD0 was not that good, not the worst, just not like their other more unique games

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#17 mattacular
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Personally I don't see it happpening as it's been 5 years since PDZ and MS has had plenty of chances to release a new PD. It would have made perfect (no pun intended) sense to have released a new PD alongside PD64 and the last rumours we had were that it was canned way back in 2007.

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#18 Cherokee_Jack
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Do Rare really have any FPS chops anymore? The Free Radical guys are gone.
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#19 mattacular
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Perfect Dark Zero = Extremely underrated multiplayer but horrible singleplayer

Id buy a new one forsure.

Agree completely
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#20 Ninja-Hippo
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Just put Joanna Dark back to the way she used to be and i'll be happy. She was way cooler as a female james bond than she is now as an angsty american teenager.
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#21 silversix_
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Copy/past exactly the style PD had, 720, x4 AA and some great graphics with 32-64players for online multiplayer and its perfect. Jumping isn't needed and roll/cover system PDZ had is a wast of time. A sprint button would be a great addition but i don't want a limited sprint (*cough* looking at Reach).
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"With Gears of War 3 out in April 2011, what will Microsoft have for holiday 2011? The Ball sees a redheaded girl in a spandex suit."

a direct quote from OXM, it goes on to hint at the 360 slim and dashboard redesign:

"A slimmer, redesigned 360 to be revealed at E3? Don't bet on it until the fall, when it's part of the Project Natal rollout. Expecting a 360 dashboard redesign to accompany Project Natal? Don't hold your breath, says the ball."

I just got PDZ, so of the people that don't blindly hate it because it wasn't like PD what do you want to see in the game? so far my only compliants about PDZ is that the cover system is too slow, they need to implement a sprint button, increase the walking speed ever so slightly, and add a jump button. Get that down thenput it in native 720p, add AA (man its a jaggy game in 4 player splitscreen), I haven't played past the first mission in SP soidk about if its as bad as people say, butpopular opinion says "IT REEKS!" so that should be a concern, but MP was great, do the stanard sequel stuff there, refine the artst*le and you get what I'd call amazingness. hope its not just a rumor though, really liked PDZ.

mayceV

nooooOOOO! one of the best things about PDZs multiplayer was the fact people couldnt jump around like rabbits throwing grenades.

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#23 Vadamee
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Perfect Dark Zero = Extremely underrated multiplayer but horrible singleplayer

Id buy a new one forsure.

kozzy1234

I didn't really like the SP, but you are right, the MP was among the most memorable this generation along side games like Halo 3. I must say though...

Things I like about PDZ. Most people here couldn't say this:

-The A.I in PDZ was surprisingly intelligent and a higher quality than the SP itself.
-The Gun play was really well made much like Halo's
-Multiplayer is as good as any other game released this generation
-The sound track was really good, complimented the game really well.
-The graphics were excellent for its time, especially the jungle stages w/the god-rays casting light through the foliage

Didn't like:

-Overall narrative wasn't very good


In my opinion, it deserved a 9.0. Most people who claim otherwise have never played it and are just going off consensus oh the few that didn't like it.

TC, since you just got PDZ are there still people playing the multi-player?

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Just put Joanna Dark back to the way she used to be and i'll be happy. She was way cooler as a female james bond than she is now as an angsty american teenager. Ninja-Hippo
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Agreed wholeheartedly. I can't stand the red-hair Joanna.

[...] A sprint button would be a great addition but i don't want a limited sprint (*cough* looking at Reach).silversix_

IF there is walk and sprint, and sprint is not limited, then what is the point in having two running speeds?

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#25 Ross_the_Boss6
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I'd rather see a Kameo 2, Banjo 3, or a new platformer. The X360 needs more platformers.

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#26 silversix_
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Been almost five years since PDZ came out and its still is the game that supports the highest number of players (on 360)in multiplayer... sad really sad.

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#27 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Perfect Dark Zero = Extremely underrated multiplayer but horrible singleplayer

Id buy a new one forsure.

Vadamee

I didn't really like the SP, but you are right, the MP was among the most memorable this generation along side games like Halo 3. I must say though... The A.I in PDZ was surprisingly intelligent and a higher quality than the SP itself.

Yeah playing Sabotage or that Attack and Defend mode with friends was just so much fun.

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#28 silversix_
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Just put Joanna Dark back to the way she used to be and i'll be happy. She was way cooler as a female james bond than she is now as an angsty american teenager. foxhound_fox

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Agreed wholeheartedly. I can't stand the red-hair Joanna.

[...] A sprint button would be a great addition but i don't want a limited sprint (*cough* looking at Reach).silversix_

IF there is walk and sprint, and sprint is not limited, then what is the point in having two running speeds?

Same point as in most shooters these days. Borderlands, MW2, BC2 to name some. You walk when you don't know what is behind the corner and run when you've been there and just want to beat the level already.

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#29 moose_knuckler
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Perfect Dark Zero = Extremely underrated multiplayer but horrible singleplayer

Id buy a new one forsure.

Yeah, MP's so addictive. I don't find the SP to be horrible (just bought recently). It's certainly not good but the cheesy music and other stuff makes it sweet :D but the other stuff is bad (on SP).
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#30 Ninja-Hippo
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Does anyone still play PDZ online? I'd probably pick it up again just for some new multiplayer. I was too hasty to trade it in when i first got it at launch.
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#31 positivebalance
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PD0 was god awful.

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Awesome news, I loved the original and like the prequel too despite all the hate. Make it happen, hopefully it'll be shown at E3.

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#33 InfinityMugen
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Perfect Dark Zero = Extremely underrated multiplayer but horrible singleplayer

Id buy a new one forsure.

kozzy1234

Agreed. It was also the first fps this gen to feature jet packs.

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#34 Trinexxx
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I was one of the rare people that really enjoyed PDZ, both single and multiplayer, so this is great news to me :)
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I'd rather see a PD2 come from Bungie before Rare (given that the original PD team is now with Crytek).

VendettaRed07

that... would be awesome.

Yeah I really dont trust rare now

why? everyone acts like all they do is push out shovelware, they havent had a single game this gen score under a 7.0 which is pretty impressive when you look at all the games that theyve released.

edit;nevermind I forgot PD got a 6.5, but still that was mainly because gamespot didnt feel it aged well

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#36 mitu123
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I'd rather see a PD2 come from Bungie before Rare (given that the original PD team is now with Crytek).

dragonfly110

that... would be awesome.

Yeah I really dont trust rare now

why? everyone acts like all they do is push out shovelware, they havent had a single game this gen score under a 7.0 which is pretty impressive when you look at all the games that theyve released.

edit;nevermind I forgot PD got a 6.5, but still that was mainly because gamespot didnt feel it aged well

You mean 7.5.

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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

that... would be awesome.

Yeah I really dont trust rare now

mitu123

why? everyone acts like all they do is push out shovelware, they havent had a single game this gen score under a 7.0 which is pretty impressive when you look at all the games that theyve released.

edit;nevermind I forgot PD got a 6.5, but still that was mainly because gamespot didnt feel it aged well

You mean 7.5.

I thought one of the viva pinatas scored a 7, then yea with the exception of the PD hd port remake thing (not sure what to call it, it kinda fell inbetween) they havent had a game score under 7.5

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#38 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

why? everyone acts like all they do is push out shovelware, they havent had a single game this gen score under a 7.0 which is pretty impressive when you look at all the games that theyve released.

edit;nevermind I forgot PD got a 6.5, but still that was mainly because gamespot didnt feel it aged well

dragonfly110

You mean 7.5.

I thought one of the viva pinatas scored a 7, then yea with the exception of the PD hd port remake thing (not sure what to call it, it kinda fell inbetween) they havent had a game score under 7.5

don't think PD can even be pinned on them. MS published and 4J studios ported it.

Rare just had their name slapped on it because they were the original maker. the old 9.9 still holds weight.

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#39 mitu123
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Perfect Dark Zero = Extremely underrated multiplayer but horrible singleplayer

Id buy a new one forsure.

InfinityMugen

Agreed. It was also the first fps this gen to feature jet packs.

And rolling, which is seen in Halo Reach as only Elites use it. And a 3rd person cover system in a FPS too.

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#40 Puckhog04
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A want a new Conker game before a new Perfect Dark. Conkers Bad Fur Day = One of the funniest and best games ever created. The remake on the Xbox was great as well, especially with online play. But a NEW one would be epic.

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#41 lawlessx
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Been almost five years since PDZ came out and its still is the game that supports the highest number of players (on 360)in multiplayer... sad really sad.

silversix_
you forgot about frontlines
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#42 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] You mean 7.5.

HavocV3

I thought one of the viva pinatas scored a 7, then yea with the exception of the PD hd port remake thing (not sure what to call it, it kinda fell inbetween) they havent had a game score under 7.5

don't think PD can even be pinned on them. MS published and 4J studios ported it.

Rare just had their name slapped on it because they were the original maker. the old 9.9 still holds weight.

yea, I was a bit suprised it even got reviewed really none of the other ports of there classics got reviewed well except Jetpac Refuelled but that had an entirley new game in it plus the port.

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#43 pc-ps360
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Meh, we all know Rare is no longer Rare, maybe they should quit while they're ahead. Maybe make a new IP but don't risk tarnishing the PD name. Just my .02 anyway.Hahadouken

perfect dark got decent reviews tho and the remake was great

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#44 mariokart64fan
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id take pd2 on these terms

still has split screen up to 8 -12 bots

about 80 guns

featuring all guns from pd1-with minor upgrades andsuch as well as the ones from pd0 and a few new ones

about 20 multiplayer maps

60 characters plus interchangable heads

all of the followin modes

combat

team combat

pop acap

capture the bag/flag

hold the briefcase

king of the hill

team koth-same as above but with teams

and some new modes would help but arent needed

about 30 missions much like the original and have objectives not some arrow pointin the way i want a true sequal

all the advanced options of pd1 plus more maybe some classic ge mapsagain

like -complex library stack basment and bunker -i tihnk facility is over played i played it like 6 games total-goldeneye pd64 pd0 quantum of solace and pd xbla

so ya um time fornew classics

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#45 mariokart64fan
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or test drive unlimited , -there is not a limit on that one its mmo ,

just a limit on how many your gonna see i think is 8

also frontlines

i tihnk halo supports 32 in team play doesnt it

but ya , out fo the good or ok for its release games that is the only one

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#46 mitu123
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

Been almost five years since PDZ came out and its still is the game that supports the highest number of players (on 360)in multiplayer... sad really sad.

lawlessx

you forgot about frontlines

That's like 50 players, and one of the few 360 games to have dedicated servers.

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#47 VendettaRed07
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I'd rather see a PD2 come from Bungie before Rare (given that the original PD team is now with Crytek).

dragonfly110

that... would be awesome.

Yeah I really dont trust rare now

why? everyone acts like all they do is push out shovelware, they havent had a single game this gen score under a 7.0 which is pretty impressive when you look at all the games that theyve released.

edit;nevermind I forgot PD got a 6.5, but still that was mainly because gamespot didnt feel it aged well

Well its just they in my opinion would not be able to make a game even close to as good as bungie would be able to. They make alright games now. But Bungie is to console shooters now what they used to be

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Rare is long and dead and PDZ is a horrible horrible game. I hope they dont make a PD2 because rare would ruin it like they have all their other games this generation.
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