Peter Molyneux: "Kinect has got some problems."

"I'll admit that Kinect has got some problems. As an input device it has some real problems. Without a thumb stick, navigation is a real problem. You haven't got any buttons, so ordering the player to do something can be somewhat of a problem."

Funny thing about this is he's basically saying that not having a controller is a problem. lol

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We give him crap all the time about his broken promises but he seems to be one of the most sane people at MS right now lol

lol

Maybe what it needs is a remote control controller.

some... SOME?! It has many, down to it's glaring red eye that just stares at me when I try to play a normal game. It's like its calling to me:

"Put down thy controller and wave thy arms like thy villiage fool. Now my apprentice, get up and Kinect! Ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaa!"

We give him crap all the time about his broken promises but he seems to be one of the most sane people at MS right now lol

xXCombatWombat

Non issue really.

No lemming remembers the faith they used to have in Kinect, it's just a fun 150$ peripheral you need to play Dance Central on your 360:P

I think Kinect can be cool if used properly in addition to a controller....but yeah I need buttons and a thumbstick for my core games

[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

We give him crap all the time about his broken promises but he seems to be one of the most sane people at MS right now lol

WilliamRLBaker

What? Don't go and bring other threads that I've posted in into an argument that makes absolutely no sense lol. At least he is admitting that Kinect has some serious design flaws, like ummm MOVING YOUR PLAYER. But you clearly have no problem with that, so its fine.

crying that kinect has "some" problems is like complaining your flesh eating bacteria has "some" problems.

it's already flesh eating bacteria how much worse can it get?

Wait,so Molyneux says Kinnect has problems.

Going by his past record,that means Kinnect is actually near faultless.

I dont think i can never get into kincet. Since I need buttons. I mean say what you want about the wii mote and motion control at least the dang thing has buttons.

He's probably regretting Fable: The Journey.

I dont think i can never get into kincet. Since I need buttons. I mean say what you want about the wii mote and motion control at least the dang thing has buttons.

finalfantasy94

Oh, Molyneux is so cute when he's out of character ...

He's probably regretting Fable: The Journey.

SRTtoZ

The Journey can suck it, work on Fable 4 for a new Xbox launch title. PM shouldn't have any limitations on the next system. Unless Kinect is required. Die Kinect DIE in Fire!

"I'll admit that Kinect has got some problems. As an input device it has some real problems. Without a thumb stick, navigation is a real problem. You haven't got any buttons, so ordering the player to do something can be somewhat of a problem."

Funny thing about this is he's basically saying that not having a controller is a problem. lol

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MrSelf-Destruct

I've always believed that Kinect will never truly be able to do more than an on-rails experience as far as trying to please the core crowd who wants true control over their character. Unless some sort of controller or something was added I don't see it happening. Yes they can try to implement full freedom control for the player but I don't see it being sharp or a better option than the traditional controller set-up.

So as much as I think Peter is full of crap in this instance I have to agree with him. It's a bitter pill for MS to swallow considering how hard they have been pushing the "You are the controller" slogan. So in the future the slogan might be, "You are the controller....but get this too." lol

I'm not saying Kinect has no use because I think the sky is the limit as far as trying to implement hybrid set-ups with the traditional controller or for games like dance central and kinect sports. We're already seeing some hybrid set-ups with ME3 and Future Soldier. This is where Kinect has the possibility to shine. However as a solo act on the hardcore stage requiring full control over your character I see it falling on its face. Also just to be clear on-rails games can be good too but depending on the type of game or set-up it can get old really quick.

You got to applaud Sega with their upcoming Kinect game Rise of Nightmares and their attempt at avoiding an on-rails experience but it looks like a chore to play

[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

We give him crap all the time about his broken promises but he seems to be one of the most sane people at MS right now lol

WilliamRLBaker

"I'll admit that Kinect has got some problems. As an input device it has some real problems. Without a thumb stick, navigation is a real problem. You haven't got any buttons, so ordering the player to do something can be somewhat of a problem."

Funny thing about this is he's basically saying that not having a controller is a problem. lol

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MrSelf-Destruct

Hybrid games are the key. Games should use kinect for head tracking and the controller for navigation.

Ryse will be the first kinect hybrid game , it is possible to use the controller and kinect at the same time.D-RS

Wont Forza 4 come first?

Hybrid games are the key. Games should use kinect for head tracking and the controller for navigation.

PAL360

Kinect is the root of the problem, imo. I can't stand that MS forces developers to support it just so they can say, "hey look we have 50 kinect titles."

[QUOTE="D-RS"]Ryse will be the first kinect hybrid game , it is possible to use the controller and kinect at the same time.PAL360

Wont Forza 4 come first?

BUT...BUT... Think of all the possibilites!!!!

OFC it's a problem, but i'm sure there are clever ways to go around them. Didn't kinect get a finger tracking update or smth? he could try to code an invisible controler for the player to move D:

I've always believed that Kinect will never truly be able to do more than an on-rails experience as far as trying to please the core crowd who wants true control over their character. Unless some sort of controller or something was added I don't see it happening. Yes they can try to implement full freedom control for the player but I don't see it being sharp or a better option than the traditional controller set-up.

So as much as I think Peter is full of crap in this instance I have to agree with him. It's a bitter pill for MS to swallow considering how hard they have been pushing the "You are the controller" slogan. So in the future the slogan might be, "You are the controller....but get this too." lol

I'm not saying Kinect has no use because I think the sky is the limit as far as trying to implement hybrid set-ups with the traditional controller or for games like dance central and kinect sports. We're already seeing some hybrid set-ups with ME3 and Future Soldier. This is where Kinect has the possibility to shine. However as a solo act on the hardcore stage requiring full control over your character I see it falling on its face. Also just to be clear on-rails games can be good too but depending on the type of game or set-up it can get old really quick.

You got to applaud Sega with their upcoming Kinect game Rise of Nightmares and their attempt at avoiding an on-rails experience but it looks like a chore to play

T-razor1

That's the most intelligent thing Molyneux ever said

Really? And here I thought it was supposed to save the world and cure cancer. :P

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I've always believed that Kinect will never truly be able to do more than an on-rails experience as far as trying to please the core crowd who wants true control over their character. Unless some sort of controller or something was added I don't see it happening. Yes they can try to implement full freedom control for the player but I don't see it being sharp or a better option than the traditional controller set-up.

So as much as I think Peter is full of crap in this instance I have to agree with him. It's a bitter pill for MS to swallow considering how hard they have been pushing the "You are the controller" slogan. So in the future the slogan might be, "You are the controller....but get this too." lol

I'm not saying Kinect has no use because I think the sky is the limit as far as trying to implement hybrid set-ups with the traditional controller or for games like dance central and kinect sports. We're already seeing some hybrid set-ups with ME3 and Future Soldier. This is where Kinect has the possibility to shine. However as a solo act on the hardcore stage requiring full control over your character I see it falling on its face. Also just to be clear on-rails games can be good too but depending on the type of game or set-up it can get old really quick.

You got to applaud Sega with their upcoming Kinect game Rise of Nightmares and their attempt at avoiding an on-rails experience but it looks like a chore to play

-RocBoys9489-

Definitely agree with you that it looks kind of cool and is one of the more bolder titles coming for Kinect but I have my doubts about how smooth the experience will be. I guess we'll know soon enough when we get to demo the game. I'm not quite sure if I would buy this right away. I need to see some reviews first.

i think its time for him to leave microsoft or retire

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I've always believed that Kinect will never truly be able to do more than an on-rails experience as far as trying to please the core crowd who wants true control over their character. Unless some sort of controller or something was added I don't see it happening. Yes they can try to implement full freedom control for the player but I don't see it being sharp or a better option than the traditional controller set-up.

So as much as I think Peter is full of crap in this instance I have to agree with him. It's a bitter pill for MS to swallow considering how hard they have been pushing the "You are the controller" slogan. So in the future the slogan might be, "You are the controller....but get this too." lol

I'm not saying Kinect has no use because I think the sky is the limit as far as trying to implement hybrid set-ups with the traditional controller or for games like dance central and kinect sports. We're already seeing some hybrid set-ups with ME3 and Future Soldier. This is where Kinect has the possibility to shine. However as a solo act on the hardcore stage requiring full control over your character I see it falling on its face. Also just to be clear on-rails games can be good too but depending on the type of game or set-up it can get old really quick.

You got to applaud Sega with their upcoming Kinect game Rise of Nightmares and their attempt at avoiding an on-rails experience but it looks like a chore to play

T-razor1

Definitely agree with you that it looks kind of cool and is one of the more bolder titles coming for Kinect but I have my doubts about how smooth the experience will be. I guess we'll know soon enough when we get to demo the game. I'm not quite sure if I would buy this right away. I need to see some reviews first.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I've always believed that Kinect will never truly be able to do more than an on-rails experience as far as trying to please the core crowd who wants true control over their character. Unless some sort of controller or something was added I don't see it happening. Yes they can try to implement full freedom control for the player but I don't see it being sharp or a better option than the traditional controller set-up.

So as much as I think Peter is full of crap in this instance I have to agree with him. It's a bitter pill for MS to swallow considering how hard they have been pushing the "You are the controller" slogan. So in the future the slogan might be, "You are the controller....but get this too." lol

I'm not saying Kinect has no use because I think the sky is the limit as far as trying to implement hybrid set-ups with the traditional controller or for games like dance central and kinect sports. We're already seeing some hybrid set-ups with ME3 and Future Soldier. This is where Kinect has the possibility to shine. However as a solo act on the hardcore stage requiring full control over your character I see it falling on its face. Also just to be clear on-rails games can be good too but depending on the type of game or set-up it can get old really quick.

You got to applaud Sega with their upcoming Kinect game Rise of Nightmares and their attempt at avoiding an on-rails experience but it looks like a chore to play

-RocBoys9489-

Looks like it works as long as you slow it way down to compensate for input lag and difficulty of responsiveness.

Furthermore, I don't really see how me being forced to be fully aware of my entire body while playing is supposed to enhance my experience.

I thought console players loved their couches, now they're gonna get screwed if their phone rings or the wife wants to know if they'd like a cup of coffee along with her's...

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I've always believed that Kinect will never truly be able to do more than an on-rails experience as far as trying to please the core crowd who wants true control over their character. Unless some sort of controller or something was added I don't see it happening. Yes they can try to implement full freedom control for the player but I don't see it being sharp or a better option than the traditional controller set-up.

So as much as I think Peter is full of crap in this instance I have to agree with him. It's a bitter pill for MS to swallow considering how hard they have been pushing the "You are the controller" slogan. So in the future the slogan might be, "You are the controller....but get this too." lol

I'm not saying Kinect has no use because I think the sky is the limit as far as trying to implement hybrid set-ups with the traditional controller or for games like dance central and kinect sports. We're already seeing some hybrid set-ups with ME3 and Future Soldier. This is where Kinect has the possibility to shine. However as a solo act on the hardcore stage requiring full control over your character I see it falling on its face. Also just to be clear on-rails games can be good too but depending on the type of game or set-up it can get old really quick.

You got to applaud Sega with their upcoming Kinect game Rise of Nightmares and their attempt at avoiding an on-rails experience but it looks like a chore to play

Filthybastrd

Looks like it works as long as you slow it way down to compensate for input lag and difficulty of responsiveness.

Furthermore, I don't really see how me being forced to be fully aware of my entire body while playing is supposed to enhance my experience.

I thought console players loved their couches, now they're gonna get screwed if their phone rings or the wife wants to know if they'd like a cup of coffee along with her's...

i still wonder what the hell were they thinking when they tried to make a device without any kind of controller, it was so obvious but they were too dumb to see it.

Bu, bu, but there's this tech demo I saw on the youtubes....

Should add this for Peter and Kinect's sake..... I thought that Fable game at E3 looked pretty cool. On rails? Yes. Cool? Yes. Something I'd like to do everyday? No.