Peter Moore must be having a seizure right about now....

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#1 Eyezonmii
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Anyone recall when the E3 trailer of 05, showing Killzone 2...while CGI, Moore claimed he kept the trailer on his PC to see how the final game will have lived up to it...i bet now if his seen the game in current form he'd be giving kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. But thats beside the point.

Would be nice if someone could interview him and see his reaction.

That is all.

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Anyone recall when the E3 trailer of 05, showing Killzone 2...while CGI, Moore claimed he kept the trailer on his PC to see how the final game will have lived up to it...i bet now if his seen the game in current form he'd be giving kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. But thats beside the point.

Would be nice if someone could interview him and see his reaction.

That is all.

Eyezonmii
why would he be worried, killzone 2 is good, but it's not good enough to get people to buy 8 million consoles to match 360's install base, and i bet it won't even match halo 3's first day sales (a world record i beleive)
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#3 SpruceCaboose
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Close, its not better, at least not IMO. And besides, that was Sony's fault for saying it was real time, while GG claimed it was a target render.
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Anyone recall when the E3 trailer of 05, showing Killzone 2...while CGI, Moore claimed he kept the trailer on his PC to see how the final game will have lived up to it...i bet now if his seen the game in current form he'd be giving kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. But thats beside the point.

Would be nice if someone could interview him and see his reaction.

That is all.

Eyezonmii
Actually, the what we've seen from the final version of KZ2 (which look awesome) seem like a downgrade of the trailer presented on 2005.
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#5 fanboy999
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Killzone is NOT some killer app. or "halo-killer". It may just turn out to be a decent FPS with good graphics. Remember how hyped Haze was?
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why would he be worried, killzone 2 is good, but it's not good enough to get people to buy 8 million consoles to match 360's install base, and i bet it won't even match halo 3's first day sales (a world record i beleive)delta3074
Who in the heck thinks one game is going to have PS3 neck-and-neck with 360? Quit exaggerating. And then you compare it to the Halo series and how a third installament of that successful series compares to a second installment of a (so far) unsuccessful series. :lol: The TC makes a point (sort of a bad one) about how the current game matches, if not beats, that original CG trailer. And how the doubters and the haters over the past couple years are now eating crow. But there you are making those silly statement, totally unrelated.
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#7 SpruceCaboose
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Killzone is NOT some killer app. or "halo-killer". It may just turn out to be a decent FPS with good graphics. Remember how hyped Haze was?fanboy999
It could be anyone of those things. We will see.
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#8 PoppaGamer
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Killzone is NOT some killer app. or "halo-killer". It may just turn out to be a decent FPS with good graphics. Remember how hyped Haze was?fanboy999
Do you remember all of the crazy positive write-ups and praise from respected writers in the industry on Haze? No? That's cause it didn't happen. To say KZ2 is anything like Haze, in that respect, is pure PS3-hater hope.
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#9 kungfuchaos
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

Anyone recall when the E3 trailer of 05, showing Killzone 2...while CGI, Moore claimed he kept the trailer on his PC to see how the final game will have lived up to it...i bet now if his seen the game in current form he'd be giving kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. But thats beside the point.

Would be nice if someone could interview him and see his reaction.

That is all.

delta3074
why would he be worried, killzone 2 is good, but it's not good enough to get people to buy 8 million consoles to match 360's install base, and i bet it won't even match halo 3's first day sales (a world record i beleive)

Why can't the Lems just admit that KZ2 is going to be a stellar game. GG is not chasing Halo 3 as RFoM 2 is easily the equal of Bungie's 3rd Halo installment as far as story, gameplay and multiplayer goes. No, KZ2 is going to be in a world of its own and finally we will have a game to take PS3 owners away from the world of CoD(YAWN). I guarantee that if KZ2 was coming on 360, the Lems would be unbearable. Ill go on record right here and right noe and predict 9.5 from GS for KZ2!
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So now Killzone 2 looks better than CGI!? No, i dont think so, and please, dont bother posting the low res, small screenshot comparisons that ive seen 100 times already.
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#11 Eyezonmii
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So now Killzone 2 looks better than CGI!? No, i dont think so, and please, dont bother posting the low res, small screenshot comparisons that ive seen 100 times already.-DrRobotnik-
Some aspects of it yes. The Gameplay character models of the CGI render looked odd and didn't have proper skin-like textures...the fire effects looked real bad in the CGI trailer, among some of the weird clipped animations. The CGI wasn't perfect. The lighting is much better in the actual killzone 2 build. IMO.
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kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. Eyezonmii
Are you sure about that ? :lol:    to me it doesn't!
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#13 SpruceCaboose
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GG is not chasing Halo 3 as RFoM 2 is easily the equal of Bungie's 3rd Halo installment as far as story, gameplay and multiplayer goes. kungfuchaos
You are in the minority in that opinion, I would bet.
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]So now Killzone 2 looks better than CGI!? No, i dont think so, and please, dont bother posting the low res, small screenshot comparisons that ive seen 100 times already.Eyezonmii
Some aspects of it yes. The Gameplay character models of the CGI render looked odd and didn't have proper skin-like textures...the fire effects looked real bad in the CGI trailer, among some of the weird clipped animations. The CGI wasn't perfect. The lighting is much better in the actual killzone 2 build. IMO.

Well i disagree. I do like how GG have evolved the art style slightly since the CGI trailer, and aesthetically it does look better. But technically, the CGI trailer still trumps it.
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All graphics no substance
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All graphics no substanceParasomniac
It's a shooter, is it not?
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#17 Eyezonmii
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All graphics no substanceParasomniac
awesome, just post a pic of your retail copy of Killzone 2 with your nice name beside it.
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#18 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

Anyone recall when the E3 trailer of 05, showing Killzone 2...while CGI, Moore claimed he kept the trailer on his PC to see how the final game will have lived up to it...i bet now if his seen the game in current form he'd be giving kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. But thats beside the point.

Would be nice if someone could interview him and see his reaction.

That is all.

kungfuchaos
why would he be worried, killzone 2 is good, but it's not good enough to get people to buy 8 million consoles to match 360's install base, and i bet it won't even match halo 3's first day sales (a world record i beleive)

Why can't the Lems just admit that KZ2 is going to be a stellar game. GG is not chasing Halo 3 as RFoM 2 is easily the equal of Bungie's 3rd Halo installment as far as story, gameplay and multiplayer goes. No, KZ2 is going to be in a world of its own and finally we will have a game to take PS3 owners away from the world of CoD(YAWN). I guarantee that if KZ2 was coming on 360, the Lems would be unbearable. Ill go on record right here and right noe and predict 9.5 from GS for KZ2!

the same reason that cows can't accept that halo 3,gears and gears 2 are stellar games.
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killzone 2 is a farcry from the CGI trailer. however in the gameplay ive seen the lighting looks incredible. BUT for the dev time and budget i would expect nothing short of a masterpiece. So far, im not seeing it, and i own a ps3.

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#20 delta3074
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killzone 2 is a farcry from the CGI trailer. however in the gameplay ive seen the lighting looks incredible. BUT for the dev time and budget i would expect nothing short of a masterpiece. So far, im not seeing it, and i own a ps3.

2scoopsofempty
imagine how i felt when they finally released too human
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Corridor zone Looks good but that´s just because it have little Maps

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#22 2scoopsofempty
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[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]

killzone 2 is a farcry from the CGI trailer. however in the gameplay ive seen the lighting looks incredible. BUT for the dev time and budget i would expect nothing short of a masterpiece. So far, im not seeing it, and i own a ps3.

delta3074
imagine how i felt when they finally released too human

i was right there with you man. big let down.
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. McdonaIdsGuy
Are you sure about that ? :lol:    to me it doesn't!

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#24 McdonaIdsGuy
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]kudo's to Sony and GG for pulling it off and making it so dam close to that Target render....hell some claim the animations/lighting and charactermodels are better in the current ACTUAL build of killzone 2. Eyezonmii

Are you sure about that ? :lol:    to me it doesn't!



Fail post is Fail,why you put resize off-screenshots only,the CGI screenshots look clearly better.

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#25 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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you can't ever really beat the CGI target, KZ2 some close though
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#26 AnnoyedDragon
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When comparing the Killzone CGI to the Killzone game, what stands out the most to me is the lack of volumetic smoke effects.

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#27 subrosian
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Why would Peter Moore care? He works for EA Sports, where he enjoys a near-complete monopoly in the sports genres his team produces.
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#28 Floppy_Jim
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You know, if Peter Moore actually does have a seizure, you're going to feel really bad for making this thread.
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You have to remember this trailer came out in 2005 its cg in 2005 when people were only playing launch 360 games, graphics back then were no way as good looking as now (look at cod2). Still the cg trailer looks better than the gameplay
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Why would Peter Moore care? He works for EA Sports, where he enjoys a near-complete monopoly in the sports genres his team produces. subrosian
This. Plus the 2005 trailer still looks better. They did come close, but it's not equal to it.
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#31 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Peter Moore dosent even work for MS anymore why would he care ?
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#32 kejigoto
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I doubt anyone at Microsoft is overly worried about Killzone 2 after this holiday season.