Phil Spencer going to Japan to talk to Publishers! Nioh Scorpio edition?

• Nioh at 4k 60 fps on Scorpio
• Nier Automata 4k 60 fps
• Ninja Gaiden 4 Xbox exclusive
• Talk to Platinum games
• Mistwalker Xbox exclusive
• Sci-fi souls game from From Software
• FF7 Remake
• Ni no Kuni 2
• Persona 5

do you really think all this is going to happen?

Just going on this gen so far, FFXV sold 690,471 for PS4 and 3,791 for Xbone in its first week in Japan. Its abysmal in comparison, but thats not to say Japan hates MS. The problem was that MS didnt start out the Xbone with Japanese devs on board and set the precedent that it wasnt a console for jrpgs. At the moment there is no install base

Would be cool to see MS get some support and maybe see a few Japanese games get a robust multiplayer/co-op featured game on Xbox One. Scalebound was interesting to catch my attention with the co-op, ashame the devs wasted their chance. MS would be in a good position to help the Japanese Devs with implementing online multiplayer/co-op to broaden the focus from singelplayer style games and give an edge over the titles currently releasing on Ps4 with minimal multiplayer/co-op features.

Why go to Mystwalker for a new game? So they can cancel the game like "Cry On" on 360?

Anyone remember Cry On? No? That's right, because it was cancelled. Yeah, that's right lemmings and Phil, Cry On.

I know who's alt that is...

Total waste of time. The japanese are smart, they know shit when they see it

Fixed that for you! Your welcome!

Beggars cant be choosers.

@blufalconultra:

What does this have to do with Japanese people not buying the crappy Xbox? Why would they? I am sure they use MS Office and probably buy Surface Tablets though.

Really? You cant grasp there are areas that cultures hold more pride in than others? Take baseball. We Americans consider ourselves the best at it. Its our "National Pastime", yet we have never won a world baseball classic (world cup of baseball).

So do you think if you spoke with Japanese people they would agree with the notion that the Scottish Claymore is a better sword than the katana? The claymore has two cutting edges and is a well made sword, after all. There wouldn't be any preference for Japanese made? Japanese people drink Scotch whiskey after all.

Cool. Are you under the assumption you will agree with or understand all others in life? Why is my opinion still on your mind?

So Platinum said its because of Xbox poor market share in Japan. But before that, their stance was thus. Hhmm, that's a bit of a contradiction.

http://www.polygon.com/features/2013/4/16/4214960/tatsuya-minami-platinum-games

"We have to think a lot about what resonates with consumers globally and find that secret sauce and make sure that goes into our games," he says. "And there's a lot of places we need to look for that: it's not just in art, it's also in game design, it's also in music ... I think the one thing that we want more than anything in the immediate future — and it's something we continue to work hard on — is we definitely want people to understand that we're making games here in Japan, but we're making games for everybody."

This is exactly what WWE did and exactly what Xbox should be doing with the big developers who weren't contracted by Sony. Xbox must know that they need to go pay and setup deals to get ports on Xbox. Even if they feel they have enough, they still need to give that fan service.

But with WWE, they gave Prince Albert/Tensei a top job at NXT, and next they sign his best friend from Japan Finn Balor. Next thing you know they sign some of NJPW's biggest talent with 3 members of Bullet Club AJ Styles and Guns n Gallows, and Nakamura.

Well money talks to some people. There will be some that are willing to work if they are being paid. Hopefully they can live up to what the terms they agree to and not need a vacation because the stress of making a fuking video game is so unbearable. Ever have an E-6 with 5 combat deployments under his belt evaluate you and your team for a deployment, Mr. Kamiya? Tinkerbell

And the funny thing is if you bring this point up all you will hear is the Xbox is shit by many who felt the 360 was as well. But Japanese devs were courted and made games for that Xbox. And the local Japanese still didn't buy it.

People think if they buy iPods and use Windows they cant have a national preference for another product or market. Americans buy Japanese cars, but still would rather eat Burgers and fried chicken than sushi. There are parts of a society where nationalistic sensibilities exist. I maintain gaming is one of them for many Japanese just like martial arts. Go search how many Japanese are studying Wing Chun.

Part of the reason I bought the first Xbox was because of this shit. I remember owning a PS1, we used to not get games that had been release in Japan for ever. You know how many Dragon Ball Z games we missed on Nintendo? You know when street fighter ex plus alpha released in Japan vs Us? I had to modify my Ps1 so that I could play japanese games because they hold things back from America.

If you want another example, Nissan/Datsun .

lol at people claiming japan is racist for not buying the POS xbox. And mostly coming from americans that just voted a racist bigot as president. But anyways, every country has racism but that doesn't mean racism dictates what products are a success. In Japan Apple products are some of the most successful because their quality is high. Japanese people are used to high quality electronic products, the 360 had a 60% failure rate. On a country which is used to high quality a failure rate of that magnitude is unacceptable. The xbox basically sealed their fame in Japan as a piece of crap and they deserved it.

Islam is not a race i.e. it's an ideology.

I wouldn't put any effort in it. Barely anyone likes those games in Europe/US

@cainetao11

What do those two points have to do with platinum or Japanese devs not putting games on Xbox because of cultural racism?

Your opinion is not lingering in my mind. You brought it up again in this thread so I commented to you again.

I don't understand it because it's illogical and rather than explain or provide information why you believe:

Japanese devs don't bring games to Xbox (only) is because of their racism.

You keep turning back at me personally.

Platinum's change on Xbox only explains what I keep saying to you. It's not financially viable to bring it to Xbox in their minds right or wrong. They're not avoiding you and your Xbox because they're racist.

FF7, From Software Souls games, Platinum games? Those are very popular on the west.

An article from the Japan Times saying their is cultural racism in Japan has already been linked. If you don't agree, good for you dude. Why is the fact I do not agree such a problem for you?

Edit: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2015/11/01/issues/tackle-embedded-racism-chokes-japan/#.WKwlu4WcF9B

I don't get why you are so confused as to why a human being has an opinion that other human beings prefer to put their own first. Further more, I don't understand why that constitutes racism. As I said previously, I know many Irish (my own grandmother and sister in law) that prefer Irish over English. It doesn't equate to HATING English. That is a black and white view of the world and really childish because it ignores the fact that there are many nuances to human beings.

@dakur:

It makes even less sense because the original point on this in another thread before bringing it up again here was Western devs don't produce games on certain platforms because of financial reasons but Japanese devs don't bring games to Xbox because of cutural racisim.

It's illogical that the Japanese are mistreating Xbox owners because of racisim. Non Japanese own nintendos and PlayStation's and I'm sure Japanese own Xbox. Instead of looking at whatever issues Xbox has or the people in charge decisions they are claiming it's because of cultural racisim. It's silly.

Lems will blame anyone before they blame M$ and their shitty decisions. That's why they've earned their nickname lemmings, they are the blindest of followers. They piss on devs when M$ fucks up and games get cancelled, they piss on their own fanbase when people complain about M$ lying and taking away features or cancelling games, they piss on entire countries when they don't buy enough xbones, they piss on gaming in general when they pretend that games are less important than their console. M$ could tell them to jump off a cliff into crocodile infested waters and they'll defend them claiming that is the best thing for gaming. They're hopeless and that's why xbox is destined to fail, their fanbase won't demand anything from them while defending their failed decisions and M$ is clueless.

@cainetao11:

So your proof of Japanese devs avoiding Xbox because they stick to their "own" while western devs do it based on financial decisions is backed up by an article written in 2015 on cutural racism that Chart Man provided you.

You: "I don't understand why that constitutes racism"

Never mind. None of this makes sense.

Who da fucks gonna hire you Phil? Japan doesn't want him, he's even lucky to get at least one handshake lol.

And if he gets a handshake it's gonna look like this

But you're the one jumping around dude. You act as if our conversation in another thread never took place.

I never once said I can prove anything. That's why its called an OPINION, not a fact. I told you I have this opinion based on personal friends, both Japanese immigrant and Japanese American that have related to me how foreigners are viewed.

Second: I have linked you to two contradicting articles from Platinum games. One states its the lack of sales in Japan of the Xbox console, the other states their mission statement is "we make games in Japan, but we make them for everyone". Yet they aren't obviously.

Third: there was a major push by MS to court Japanese games in order to appeal to that market last generation. Even with much Japanese support, the Xbox 360 sold poorly in Japan. Maybe, just maybe they don't want an American company's video game console as much as they do a Japanese company's. I know. Its completely far fetched and out of right field.

@cainetao11:

They're not contradicting articles!

They obviously think working on an Xbox version isn't financially feasible not because they're racist.

How does that contradict making games for a global audience instead of just a Japanese one? They're putting it on PC/PS4. Do you think only Japanese people own PCs/PS4s?

Your 360 point only proves mine unless you think they weren't culturally racist for the 360 but developed cultural racisim for the Xbox one. I mean they made games for the 360. You said they aren't making them for Xbox one because they stick to their "own".

How so?

The first Article says the Xbox doesn't have a strong market in Japan.

The second states they need to as a company look past local borders as developers of games because there are markets other than their own. Are you dyslexic?

As I said before, WE FUKING DISAGREE. Get over it, dude. I have an opinion. I have reasons for it. You don't like them. I don't give a shit.

Its like the God question. I cant prove God exists, but others cant prove God doesn't exist.

I cant prove some Japanese prefer to put their own market and people first. But you cannot prove they absolutely do not. Let it go.

@cainetao11:

"The first Article says the Xbox doesn't have a strong market in Japan.

The second states they need to as a company look past local borders as developers of games because there are markets other than their own. Are you dyslexic?"

They're releasing it on PC/PS4. You can't seriously think only the Xbox is used outside of Japanese borders.

@dakur: LOL so true.

lmao

Embedding because it deserves it.

I don't, but the fact is they can reach a potentially larger base of gamers if they do, like the first Nier and MGR did.

@cainetao11:

The fact those games as well as other Japanese games are on 360 shows a distinct lack of Japanese cultural racisim in the gaming industry and points to other problems with the Xbox one that should be addressed whatever they are.

But I never said it is purely racism. You did. I have an opinion, a hypothesis. I never said its fact. You are the one that keeps trying to make it about that for absolute sure.

The 360 was a sales failure in Japan just like the OG Xbox. But they still supported the platform in other markets. Now suddenly, not. What about the fact that other Square games this gen are on X!?

Its ok to disagree dude.

@cainetao11:

What? You said that Western devs makes these decisions based on financial reasons while Japanese devs base it on being with their own. Then you support that theory with an article on cultural Japanese racisim. Your opinion defies logic but you're welcome to it.

The Xbox one is selling much worse than the 360 so it's not really comparable. (Edit: I'm talking about in Japan in regards to 360/Xbox 1 to avoid confusion)

Edit: for your square addition which is a good one.

I think other square games or other Japanese games in general on X1 show it's not lacking Japanese games based on the devs wanting to stick with their own.

I think Phil should go to Japan and try and figure out why it's not more supported and if it's financial then develop a plan to alleviate those concerns.

Does anyone really care? Do people care about Xbox? If so, why? Get a PC already. Jeez.

That's absurd. the 360 was still a sales failure in japan, regardless of a difference.

I said AMERICANS put profit over anything. I know my country wont put fellow countrymen over money ever. I don't believe ALL Japanese do the same. Its an opinion. You disagree. Its fine, to me at least. For some reason you need conclusion or fact here. But like I said, Prove to me I am absolutely wrong.

Phil, do US gamers of favor and forget about those crappy Wii-A-Moos, Xbox gamers want the far superior western style dev'ed games with the possible exception of a Lost Odyssey 2 thank you very much. :P

@cainetao11:

@cainetao11:

"For some reason you need conclusion or fact here. "

You forget you brought the topic up again in this thread and referenced the last conversation not I. I simply started discussing it with you again since you brought it back up.

But I didn't reply to or quote you. That's cool, its an open forum. I will continue to express my opinion here as long as I am alive or an active member.

@cainetao11:

"But I didn't reply to or quote you. "

Didn't say you did. I said you referenced it, which you did.

"That's cool, its an open forum. I will continue to express my opinion here as long as I am alive or an active member."

Ok.

LOL

All this guy does is talk.

Where did he say anything about islam?

Are you living under a rock? Trump has targeted both Islamic ideology and illegal immigration (queue jumpers).

Standard corporate double speak PR. Without the double speak BS, it's clear PG don't want to support XBO, not even with a sloppy port without ESRAM support.

Anyway, a book on Japan's Unequal Trade. Note that Japan is not unique when it comes to nationalistic tendencies.

But he didn't say anything about Islamic he was talking about trump racism which is not just based on an idiology,he is a man who backed racist groups in US he appeals to a big group of people i may add in US that are Racist.

The sad part about Trump is that he actually believe that he is Seating Bull son,he really think he is not part of those emigrants he so fiercely attack now.

US is a country BUILD by emigrants mostly european,Mexicans are more Americans than US citizens are,by BLOOD most of them are native descendant of native Indians who populated north america.

The fun part is how he even tell people that they should speak in English and not a foreign language like Spanish mexican use,when English is not a damn native language in america.

Electing people like him to be president tell us how much hate and racism still alive in US,and we would have think that after electing a black president things would have smooth out things would be better,and just like that we were send back 70 years in time.

@ronvalencia:

What are you talking about?

PG was making scalebound for Xbox one and it was cancelled.

How does this = PG is culturally racist to Xbox one gamers?