Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire reviews are out. 8 on GS, 88 MC

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/pillars-of-eternity-2-deadfire-review-a-pirates-li/1900-6416907/

The Good

Excellent writing throughout

Vast world packed with poignant little stories for you to uncover

Art direction creates a striking tone and an inviting setting

Rich, nuanced cast that grow and evolve

The Bad

Verbose sections can grind pacing a bit

Enjoyed the first one, might give this a go when it'll be on sale

I could never get into the first one but I heard this has turn based combat and pirates which makes me a bit more interested

No idea what a Verbase section is, but it doesn't sound that inportant to knock off an entire point.

I heard this one has turn based combat and I like to be out of coma while playing games. I'll pass. ;)

ver·bosevərˈbōs/adjectiveadjective: verbose

using or expressed in more words than are needed."much academic language is obscure and verbose"

synonyms:

wordy, loquacious, garrulous, talkative, voluble; More

@MonsieurX: So the "wordy" sections are a grind? So it has a lot of talking? Or i'm not getting it again?

you got it. crpgs tend to have a lot of dialogue, and if its like the first game, there is no voice acting for most of it so you gotta do a LOT of reading

These kind of games have never interested me which is a shame, because in addition to being good games, Obsidian made it. Became a fan after Fallout New Vegas.

If it's like the first game, it's about 3 paragraphs at a time.

Big wowee?

If it was Mass Effect you'd have cringy puppets and pie charts.

I'm looking forward to checking it out.

Though I've got so much other stuff to do gaming and otherwise that it'll probably be a while.

@cainetao11: I'm fairly sure that ship combat is turn-based, but the general party-based combat is real-time (like Pillars 1).

I hope they improved the encounter design from the first game. That singlehandedly destroyed my will to play that.

Now I am actually interested.

Hmm, only for ship combat. Will wait on sale then.

i agree. Never liked these wierd looking top down cRPGs. they are so damn boring.

Your comments are boring, yet here you are

@Planeforger: I'm just stirring the pot dude.play what you like.

yea, the GS review made it seem like all the combat is turn-based but further research revealed its just ship combat. normal combat is still pause and play.

and i agree, I got turned off the first game by the encounter design, the combat just didn't have a good flow to it

Tyranny had better gameplay than the first PoE. Will have try this one out to see if it has better combat.

First flop of May. Detroit please save us!

Pretty early call isn't it?

how is it a flop?

Haha!

True.

Not on PS4 = flop i'm guessing lol.

But it's on all platforms

Pillars of Eternity 2 is multiplat, so it's on PS4. How could you not know this?

What did you expect? He lols at all of his own unfunny comments because nobody else does.

Anyway, still need to finish the first game but it's good to know that more is waiting.

I can't wait to play this. I love the first one. Took me a while to get into it, but now I'm hooked. Almost done.

I'm kind of curious about the Switch version. I might double dip if it's remotely playable with a controller

It does look great! Has an impressive 90/100 metascore now.

Multiclass and subclasses is great

The game is great so far.

The character building options are excellent (although I have *no* idea which classes/multiclasses I should pick for my party members), the setting has improved over the original, the dialogue seems to have heaps of branching options depending on your stats/reputation/etc., and the combat AI seems a lot smarter than the original.

I suspect I'm going to sink 50-100 hours into this one.

Also, if the Switch version is any good...I'll double-dip.

there's some pretty damn strong multiclassing possibilities

Considering I play more pc gaming then anything else, okay. He assumes because I don't like Trash Citizen i don't play on my pc. Lol.

@howmakewood: I just love that all of the multiclass combinations have unique names. A cipher/barbarian is a witch, a cipher/rogue is a mindstalker, a cipher/chanter is a spiritualist, a cipher/paladin is an inquisitor, and so on.

It's has no gameplay impact, but it adds so much flavour to every character option.

I also love that you pick your party member's classes. For example, Eder is a fighter, rogue, or swashbuckler (fighter/rogue). It makes party composition so much more flexible than most RPGs.

I'm currently playing as a Cipher (Beguiler)/Chanter (Troubadour). Lots of active crowd control spells and passive damage chants, with summons for support. Good stuff!

The GOOD and BAD lists nothing about gameplay... Not one word.

The game is great, btw.

The setting and gameplay have big improvements over the first game, and managing a ship is much more fun than managing a keep.

This snuck up on me. I am looking forward to the game, yet it's apparently out already.

Another awesome rpg, not sure how that review only warrants an 8 though?? Guess obsidian forgot to mail them their check though...

Welcome to modern gaming journalism.

Review scores are getting more pointless by the year, because they don't actually review the game, only the surrounding themes!

Great game. Only thing I don't like that much is the naval combat. They could've got the combat from Sid Meier's Pirates or something and it would've been much better.

@Planeforger: it was needed as well thanks to group size change as well, but obviously you can make some pretty broken builds with multiclassing, after Im done with first playthrough Im gonna do some numbers

Don't forget comparing a game to Dark Souls if it has any difficulty whatsoever and complaining about it being too hard to play so their should be a mode for people that only want to know the story.

How much you have to read can effect your scores devs.

Make note of this. People are dumb and can't comrehend words with more than 4 syllables.

You missed the point entirely, stop making stuff up.

I was being funny.

TBH some single class builds are inanely broken too. Some of the 8/9 Tier skills are screen clearing mega nukes or other cheesy stuff. Rogue, Monk, Wizard, Beckoner come to mind.

From what I've read about the game it still has that utterly awful RTWP combat system which was novel 30 years ago but is hopelessly antiquated now.

Give me real time or turn based please not some jumbled mess where you really have no clue what is going on most of the time unless you're constantly pausing.