Platinum Games; Bayonetta on PS3 was our biggest failure

"The biggest failure for Platinum so far, the one that really sticks in my mind, is that port, Inaba tells us. At the time we didnt really know how to develop on PS3 all that well, and whether we could have done it is irrelevant: we made the decision that we couldnt. But looking back on the result, and especially what ended up being released to users, I regard that as our biggest failure.

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So basically they regret making it 360 exclusive first, instead of PS3 exclusive or multiplat from the get-go as it should have been. 2Chalupas

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]So basically they regret making it 360 exclusive first, instead of PS3 exclusive or multiplat from the get-go as it should have been. Nintendo_Ownes7

Exactly. That's what I said. They regret their initial decision to make it 360 exclusive, which caused the half assed PS3 port down the road.

You could say they are making a mistake making it "exclusive" again, but of course this time around the game is being funded by a 1st party (Nintendo) specificlaly to be an exclusive. So it's a different situation.

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]So basically they regret making it 360 exclusive first, instead of PS3 exclusive or multiplat from the get-go as it should have been. 2Chalupas

Exactly. That's what I said. They regret their initial decision to make it 360 exclusive, which caused the half assed PS3 port down the road.

You could say they are making a mistake making it "exclusive" again, but of course this time around the game is being funded by a 1st party (Nintendo) specificlaly to be an exclusive. So it's a different situation.

Did it get properly patched?freedomfreak

Did it get properly patched?freedomfreak

Did it get properly patched?freedomfreak

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Did it get properly patched?Nintendo_Ownes7

I think the patch was in March and i have to say, it made the performance much better.

How ironic, their biggest "failure" is one of my favorite games this gen :P

Another lazy dev to sit alongside Bethesda and Gearbox.

A bigger failure than Madworld on Wii?nintendoboy16

A bigger failure than Madworld on Wii?nintendoboy16

Madworld didn't have Framerate Issues or Long Load Times.

Madworld may have been Meh, but it didn't suffer from Technical issuses unlike Bayonetta for the PS3.

So basically they regret making it 360 exclusive first, instead of PS3 exclusive or multiplat from the get-go as it should have been. 2Chalupas

Glad to see they are being honest about it. There is nothing wrong with the PS3 like Lems tell themselves, sure the architecture may be different, but the fact is that the vats majority of ports you cannot tell the difference between PS3 and 360 version. If PS3 was really a pain to develop for, you would see bad ports constantly, it only rarely happens and it is due to lazy devs.

Bayonetta is perfectly fine on PS3 now after the patch. It looks and plays just like the 360 version after you do the update. Same thing with Fallout and Skyrim, devs usually end up fixing their bad ports.

Just push Sega to get Anarchy Reigns over here now!

how can we sit here and not agree,

lets look at the ps3s past history of failing titles

1 lair what happened to factor 5 after this?

2 haze -this one killed timesplitters 4 before it got going

3 and look at midway , when they made a ps3 game (which one was it by the way) it completely bombed and they went bankrupt

and the fact that not many ps3 exclusives are selling at the same rates as wiis exclusives when there is 60 million ps3s sold there should be good sales for first party titles not just 2-5 million , im talking about 6 plus million to 20 million ,

360 has the same problem but their third party sells alot , so they off set ,

i think it would have been wise for them to put it on wii

So basically they regret making it 360 exclusive first, instead of PS3 exclusive or multiplat from the get-go as it should have been. 2Chalupas

how can we sit here and not agree,

lets look at the ps3s past history of failing titles

1 lair what happened to factor 5 after this?

2 haze -this one killed timesplitters 4 before it got going

3 and look at midway , when they made a ps3 game (which one was it by the way) it completely bombed and they went bankrupt

and the fact that not many ps3 exclusives are selling at the same rates as wiis exclusives when there is 60 million ps3s sold there should be good sales for first party titles not just 2-5 million , im talking about 6 plus million to 20 million ,

360 has the same problem but their third party sells alot , so they off set ,

i think it would have been wise for them to put it on wii

mariokart64fan

Bayonetta and Skyrim are 360 exclusives. We all know this.JohnnyCageMK

No, youre biggest mistake was making the game at all!!!:x

A bigger failure than Madworld on Wii?nintendoboy16

They should be repent about it. Even with all the bad publicity around it, the PS3 version still sold better then the 360 one. Now imagine how it could have sold if it was a good version on the PS3 from he beggining... had they released a good PS3 version and maybe, just maybe, Bayonetta 2 wouldnt be a WiiU exclusive atm

Most Hack'n'slash fans are on PS3 because they grew up with DMC, Onimusha, GoW, Shinobi (PS2), Genji, etc, etc... releasing a game like Bayonetta exclusively on the 360, as initially intended, would be a suicide. Almost every HnS this gen sold better on PS3 (DMC4, Bayonetta, Castlevania: LoS)

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]So basically they regret making it 360 exclusive first, instead of PS3 exclusive or multiplat from the get-go as it should have been. Nintendo_Ownes7

Nex Entertainment were the ones that did the port and multiplat was part of the contract since the beginning. PG never touched a PS3 until Vanquish and because of their inexperience the game ran at 30 frames instead of the promised 60. I fear for the MGR version too... Vanquish had PS3 as main platform and the most they could manage was 30 frames and even though Rising is being developed on the PS3 first the game's supposed to be 60 frames. And by trying too hard to push 60 frames on PS3 the version could end up bad even if it is the main platform. =/

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]So basically they regret making it 360 exclusive first, instead of PS3 exclusive or multiplat from the get-go as it should have been. Nintendo_Ownes7

and it was a good decision by Sega as it still sold better on the PS3

Bayonetta and Skyrim are 360 exclusives. We all know this.JohnnyCageMK

ah lol

u wish

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Bayonetta and Skyrim are 360 exclusives. We all know this.4dr1el

ah lol

u wish

1 lair what happened to factor 5 after this?

2 haze -this one killed timesplitters 4 before it got going

3 and look at midway , when they made a ps3 game (which one was it by the way) it completely bombed and they went bankrup

mariokart64fan

you're blaming PS3 on the incompetence of 2nd/3rd party devs?

get a grip

1. Lair was a bad game. It did not deserve the sales just because it was from Factor 5.

2. Same as above. If they wanted sales they should have come up with a better game.

3. I dont even know wtf you're talkin about but if I remember correctly Midway was in financial trouble since the PS2 era.

try again

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Bayonetta and Skyrim are 360 exclusives. We all know this.EzcapeTheFate

ah lol

u wish

One thing is Skyrim, other is Skyrim: Dawnguard...

Thats like saying BioShock is a PS3 exclusive because it has DLC that the X360/PC doesnt have (Challenge Rooms)

Thats idiotic

I love how you can tell by the comments who didn't read the Op.

I love how you can tell by the comments who didn't read the Op.

madsnakehhh

You mean the fake link? I noticed, but I thought it was an honest mistake from TC but again, in SW we cant be too sure about the good faith of people...

[QUOTE="EzcapeTheFate"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

ah lol

u wish

4dr1el

One thing is Skyrim, other is Skyrim: Dawnguard...

Thats like saying BioShock is a PS3 exclusive because it has DLC that the X360/PC doesnt have (Challenge Rooms)

Thats idiotic

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="EzcapeTheFate"] Skyrim kinda is though, if you want to play the full complete version that includes DLC, xbox is where its atJohnnyCageMK

One thing is Skyrim, other is Skyrim: Dawnguard...

Thats like saying BioShock is a PS3 exclusive because it has DLC that the X360/PC doesnt have (Challenge Rooms)

Thats idiotic

see that?

It means I can play Skyrim on PS3 so no, its not a X360 exclusive

DLC is DLC no matter what or how much it offers. Its still sold apart from the original experience. DLC is a plus nothing more.

If Skyrim is a 360 exclusive then I guess so was GTA IV for a while until PS3 received Liberty City Stories... Only a moronic stupid fanboy would actually believe that... how pathetic it is to relly over multiplats to bash the rival console? Thats what happens when fanboys dont have exclusives to argue about

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

One thing is Skyrim, other is Skyrim: Dawnguard...

Thats like saying BioShock is a PS3 exclusive because it has DLC that the X360/PC doesnt have (Challenge Rooms)

Thats idiotic

4dr1el

see that?

It means I can play Skyrim on PS3 so no, its not a X360 exclusive

DLC is DLC no matter what or how much it offers. Its still sold apart from the original experience. DLC is a plus nothing more.

If Skyrim is a PS3 exclusive then I guess so was GTA IV for a while until PS3 received Liberty City Stories... Only a moronic stupid fanboy would actually believe that... how pathetic it is to relly over multiplats to bash the rival console? Thats what happens when fanboys dont have exclusives to argue about

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

One thing is Skyrim, other is Skyrim: Dawnguard...

Thats like saying BioShock is a PS3 exclusive because it has DLC that the X360/PC doesnt have (Challenge Rooms)

Thats idiotic

4dr1el

see that?

It means I can play Skyrim on PS3 so no, its not a X360 exclusive

DLC is DLC no matter what or how much it offers. Its still sold apart from the original experience. DLC is a plus nothing more.

If Skyrim is a 360 exclusive then I guess so was GTA IV for a while until PS3 received Liberty City Stories... Only a moronic stupid fanboy would actually believe that... how pathetic it is to relly over multiplats to bash the rival console? Thats what happens when fanboys dont have exclusives to argue about

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] lol at comparing challenge rooms to a Skyrim expansion pack. The true Skyrim experience is exclusive to 360 unless you have a gaming PC. I remember when cows said stuff like "lems are just beta testing Dawnguard for PS3 lulz". PS3 just can't run it. Its a terrible console.EzcapeTheFate

see that?

It means I can play Skyrim on PS3 so no, its not a X360 exclusive

DLC is DLC no matter what or how much it offers. Its still sold apart from the original experience. DLC is a plus nothing more.

If Skyrim is a PS3 exclusive then I guess so was GTA IV for a while until PS3 received Liberty City Stories... Only a moronic stupid fanboy would actually believe that... how pathetic it is to relly over multiplats to bash the rival console? Thats what happens when fanboys dont have exclusives to argue about

Not the ORIGINAL experience. Any DLC (and I mean ANY) is part of the experience, but is OPTIONAL. And so is Dawnguard. Challenge Rooms is still part of the BioShock experience, being it worthy or not. So I ask you again, is BioShock a PS3 exclusive because it has exclusive DLC? It seems to be the stupid logic you're trying to pass out here...

heh funny enough, they didn't do the Bayonetta ps3 port. They just let Sega do it. :l I can see why they would call it their biggest failure though.

Edit- What's with the link TC? This should be it.

Bayonetta is perfectly fine on PS3 now after the patch. It looks and plays just like the 360 version after you do the update. Same thing with Fallout and Skyrim, devs usually end up fixing their bad ports.

ShadowMoses900

I call BS. It was Sony's failure for making their console the weakest link and hard to develop for.

Bayonetta and Skyrim are 360 exclusives. We all know this.JohnnyCageMK

My child, i can understand you wanting those to be exclusives, since the 360 has no games:lol:

but you can also play those on the PS3 and PC:P

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] lol at comparing challenge rooms to a Skyrim expansion pack. The true Skyrim experience is exclusive to 360 unless you have a gaming PC. I remember when cows said stuff like "lems are just beta testing Dawnguard for PS3 lulz". PS3 just can't run it. Its a terrible console.delta3074

see that?

It means I can play Skyrim on PS3 so no, its not a X360 exclusive

DLC is DLC no matter what or how much it offers. Its still sold apart from the original experience. DLC is a plus nothing more.

If Skyrim is a 360 exclusive then I guess so was GTA IV for a while until PS3 received Liberty City Stories... Only a moronic stupid fanboy would actually believe that... how pathetic it is to relly over multiplats to bash the rival console? Thats what happens when fanboys dont have exclusives to argue about

LOL no.

I have played Dawnguard, it is not anything like Shivering Isles, not even close. It's also not very long, honestly it's good but not THAT good. You 360 only guys are over hyping so you can use it as "ammo", but really it's not super amazing or anything.

And there is no differnece in gameplay or grapics between the 360 and PS3 version. After the patch obviously.

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] lol at comparing challenge rooms to a Skyrim expansion pack. The true Skyrim experience is exclusive to 360 unless you have a gaming PC. I remember when cows said stuff like "lems are just beta testing Dawnguard for PS3 lulz". PS3 just can't run it. Its a terrible console.delta3074

see that?

It means I can play Skyrim on PS3 so no, its not a X360 exclusive

DLC is DLC no matter what or how much it offers. Its still sold apart from the original experience. DLC is a plus nothing more.

If Skyrim is a 360 exclusive then I guess so was GTA IV for a while until PS3 received Liberty City Stories... Only a moronic stupid fanboy would actually believe that... how pathetic it is to relly over multiplats to bash the rival console? Thats what happens when fanboys dont have exclusives to argue about

Not even on the same level, not even close.