playstation 3 technical limitations explained in a picture+words

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.Teufelhuhn

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

everyone,read my sigwiistation360

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Which explains why all the PS3 games going forward look a lot nicer than 360 games. I think it's time to face the music fellas.Viviath

lol, wait till you see future 360 games, wait untill they start using memory export and stuff on 360, ps3 wont even beable to keep pace.

lol hell no, the textures dont even come close to kameo or shaders.

Well, kameo was a gamecube to xbox to xbox360 port, so you know didnt take advantage of 360 hardware, just so you know ps3 can only do 250 million polygons per second, xbox360 can do over 500 million +.

sorry bro, 360 later in future will be doing crap ps3 only dreamed of doing.

Hironobu Sakaguchi wrote: HS: Ah, Kutaragi-san's architecture...seven DSPs and a low-powered CPU. I don't like the PS3's architecture. Cry me a river.... Oh well, Everyone said the same exact thing about the Saturn, because hardware-wise, it WAS more powerful than the PS1, but it had more than one processor, and most programmers are too lazy to try and work around it.  Bloodzombie77

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]There is no use arguing with you. My 4 year old computer if this is true will be 5x as powerful as a ps3 because it's cpu has 1 gb ram.. It is the clocked speed that makes the ps3 so powerful.Teufelhuhn

LOL, BULLCRAP

on my x1900xtx 512 mb video ram , and 1gb of cpu main ram Quake 4 on ultra quality studders, if i add another 1gb for 2gb of main ram, the games butter smooth, main ram is just as important as video memory.

ok better example, dreamcast 16 mb main ram, 8 mb video ram, ps2 4 mb video ram 32 mb main ram,

unreal tournament 1999 ran and looked better on ps2, why? because lack of main ram hurt dreamcast, they had to take out polygons and effects because it didnt have the main memory ps2 did, even with more video ram still had to be downgraded...so goes to show you main memory is more important than video memory basically.

Actually ps2 has a gpu, it's called the rsx also, it has 4 mb of video ram, and the emotion rngine has 32 mb of dram

Lol, you dont know half the crap i do son, why are you even arguing with me? just read what i type and leave, you cant learn from talking, you read/listen..to someone who knows more than you..

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.bobobobodfwofof

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX read xdr for video memory from main memory for main memory operations? you make no sense.

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]There is no use arguing with you. My 4 year old computer if this is true will be 5x as powerful as a ps3 because it's cpu has 1 gb ram.. It is the clocked speed that makes the ps3 so powerful.bobobobodfwofof

LOL, BULLCRAP

on my x1900xtx 512 mb video ram , and 1gb of  cpu main ram Quake 4 on ultra quality studders, if i add another 1gb for 2gb of main ram, the games butter smooth, main ram is just as important as video memory.

no, you dont know what you are talking about.

F.E.A.R ON MAX WITH 1GB OF RAM =STUDDERS WITH 2GB OF MAIN RAM, THE GAMES ALOT SMOOTHER, STUDDERS=WHEN YOU OPEN DOORS GAME FREEZES UP HAS TO LOAD STUFF FROM MEMORY.

im a pc gamer and done it all my life, i have ran f.e.a.r with 1gb of ram and 2gb, f.e.a.r and quake 4 on max with 1gb of system memory isnt even playable, 2gb of ram makes world of difference.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]There is no use arguing with you. My 4 year old computer if this is true will be 5x as powerful as a ps3 because it's cpu has 1 gb ram.. It is the clocked speed that makes the ps3 so powerful.bobobobodfwofof

LOL, BULLCRAP

on my x1900xtx 512 mb video ram , and 1gb of cpu main ram Quake 4 on ultra quality studders, if i add another 1gb for 2gb of main ram, the games butter smooth, main ram is just as important as video memory.

ok better example, dreamcast 16 mb main ram, 8 mb video ram, ps2 4 mb video ram 32 mb main ram,

unreal tournament 1999 ran and looked better on ps2, why? because lack of main ram hurt dreamcast, they had to take out polygons and effects because it didnt have the main memory ps2 did, even with more video ram still had to be downgraded...so goes to show you main memory is more important than video memory basically.

Actually ps2 has a gpu, it's called the rsx also, it has 4 mb of video ram, and the emotion rngine has 32 mb of dram

Lol, you dont know half the crap i do son, why are you even arguing with me? just read what i type and leave, you cant learn from talking, you read/listen..to someone who knows more than you..

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9283/ps332pk7.jpg

That's why ps3 is inferior to xbox360^^ not to mention inferior gpu and crap cpu.

bobobobodfwofof

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]There is no use arguing with you. My 4 year old computer if this is true will be 5x as powerful as a ps3 because it's cpu has 1 gb ram.. It is the clocked speed that makes the ps3 so powerful.bobobobodfwofof

LOL, BULLCRAP

on my x1900xtx 512 mb video ram , and 1gb of cpu main ram Quake 4 on ultra quality studders, if i add another 1gb for 2gb of main ram, the games butter smooth, main ram is just as important as video memory.

ok better example, dreamcast 16 mb main ram, 8 mb video ram, ps2 4 mb video ram 32 mb main ram,

unreal tournament 1999 ran and looked better on ps2, why? because lack of main ram hurt dreamcast, they had to take out polygons and effects because it didnt have the main memory ps2 did, even with more video ram still had to be downgraded...so goes to show you main memory is more important than video memory basically.

Actually ps2 has a gpu, it's called the rsx also, it has 4 mb of video ram, and the emotion rngine has 32 mb of dram

Lol, you dont know half the crap i do son, why are you even arguing with me? just read what i type and leave, you cant learn from talking, you read/listen..to someone who knows more than you..

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.bobobobodfwofof

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.Teufelhuhn

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.thirstychainsaw

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.Teufelhuhn

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]

You know so much. Crap cpu, what is the xbox 360's cpu then?

thirstychainsaw

Not proof.Silchas

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.Teufelhuhn

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

if a game on xbox360  requires like 300 mbs main memory  more than 256 mb main ram, then ps3 wont beable to handle the application.

this is why i made the thread.

And games are limited by CPU memory, why do you think games like battlefield 2, f.e.a.r doom3 quake 4 run like ass with only 1gb of system memory? because it is important.

this is why i made the thread.

And games are limited by CPU memory, why do you think games like battlefield 2, f.e.a.r doom3 quake 4 run like ass with only 1gb of system memory? because it is important.

bobobobodfwofof

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.bobobobodfwofof

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

if a game on xbox360 requires like 300 mbs main memory more than 256 mb main ram, then ps3 wont beable to handle the application.

this is why i made the thread.

And games are limited by CPU memory, why do you think games like battlefield 2, f.e.a.r doom3 quake 4 run like ass with only 1gb of system memory? because it is important.

[QUOTE="wiistation360"]everyone,read my sigthirstychainsaw

i meant to say cell can only use XDR for main memory.bobobobodfwofof

LOL, halo 2 looks almost as good as resistance :lol:

bobobobodfwofof

There is no use arguing with you. My 4 year old computer if this is true will be 5x as powerful as a ps3 because it's cpu has 1 gb ram.. It is the clocked speed that makes the ps3 so powerful.nextgengaming18

lol hell no, the textures dont even come close to kameo or shaders.

bobobobodfwofof

LOL, BULLCRAP

on my x1900xtx 512 mb video ram , and 1gb of cpu main ram Quake 4 on ultra quality studders, if i add another 1gb for 2gb of main ram, the games butter smooth, main ram is just as important as video memory.

bobobobodfwofof

Well, kameo was a gamecube to xbox to xbox360 port, so you know didnt take advantage of 360 hardware, just so you know ps3 can only do 250 million polygons per second, xbox360 can do over 500 million +.

sorry bro, 360 later in future will be doing crap ps3 only dreamed of doing.

bobobobodfwofof

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.Ibacai

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

if a game on xbox360 requires like 300 mbs main memory more than 256 mb main ram, then ps3 wont beable to handle the application.

this is why i made the thread.

And games are limited by CPU memory, why do you think games like battlefield 2, f.e.a.r doom3 quake 4 run like ass with only 1gb of system memory? because it is important.

LOL, you are self owned, you said the amount of main memory isnt important? more main memory is more important than video ram unless you using really high resolutions with aa.

look at pc game specs, f.e.a.r recommended is like 1.5gb , does it recommend 1.5gb video ram? no it's 256 mb video ram or 512mb.

Are you too ignorant to see ps3's flaw's i made it obvious to point out?

Why do you think gears of war couldnt be done on ps3? only 256 mb main memory.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9283/ps332pk7.jpg

That's why ps3 is inferior to xbox360^^ not to mention inferior gpu and crap cpu.

bobobobodfwofof

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]i meant to say cell can only use XDR for main memory.Runningflame570

Why is this game hyped so much. It doesn't even look good...nextgengaming18

LOL, halo 2 looks almost as good as resistance :lol:

bobobobodfwofof

There is no use arguing with you. My 4 year old computer if this is true will be 5x as powerful as a ps3 because it's cpu has 1 gb ram.. It is the clocked speed that makes the ps3 so powerful.nextgengaming18

He doesn't know what he is talking about. RAM for cpu is useless for videogames.. It isn't need for particle effects, animation, or physics. nextgengaming18

lol hell no, the textures dont even come close to kameo or shaders.

bobobobodfwofof

LOL, BULLCRAP

on my x1900xtx 512 mb video ram , and 1gb of cpu main ram Quake 4 on ultra quality studders, if i add another 1gb for 2gb of main ram, the games butter smooth, main ram is just as important as video memory.

bobobobodfwofof

Well, kameo was a gamecube to xbox to xbox360 port, so you know didnt take advantage of 360 hardware, just so you know ps3 can only do 250 million polygons per second, xbox360 can do over 500 million +.

sorry bro, 360 later in future will be doing crap ps3 only dreamed of doing.

bobobobodfwofof

lol, i know lots and lots about pc, polygon performance>fill rate .

[QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]i meant to say cell can only use XDR for main memory.Runningflame570

LOL, halo 2 looks almost as good as resistance :lol:

bobobobodfwofof

There is no use arguing with you. My 4 year old computer if this is true will be 5x as powerful as a ps3 because it's cpu has 1 gb ram.. It is the clocked speed that makes the ps3 so powerful.nextgengaming18

lol hell no, the textures dont even come close to kameo or shaders.

bobobobodfwofof

LOL, BULLCRAP

on my x1900xtx 512 mb video ram , and 1gb of cpu main ram Quake 4 on ultra quality studders, if i add another 1gb for 2gb of main ram, the games butter smooth, main ram is just as important as video memory.

bobobobodfwofof

Well, kameo was a gamecube to xbox to xbox360 port, so you know didnt take advantage of 360 hardware, just so you know ps3 can only do 250 million polygons per second, xbox360 can do over 500 million +.

sorry bro, 360 later in future will be doing crap ps3 only dreamed of doing.

bobobobodfwofof

Actually ps2 has a gpu, it's called the rsx also, it has 4 mb of video ram, and the emotion rngine has 32 mb of dram

Lol, you dont know half the crap i do son, why are you even arguing with me? just read what i type and leave, you cant learn from talking, you read/listen..to someone who knows more than you..

bobobobodfwofof

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]
I really don't know. I always tell myself not to argue about this kind of stuff, but I can't listen to my own advice. :cry:
fuzzysquash

if a game on xbox360 requires like 300 mbs main memory more than 256 mb main ram, then ps3 wont beable to handle the application.

this is why i made the thread.

And games are limited by CPU memory, why do you think games like battlefield 2, f.e.a.r doom3 quake 4 run like ass with only 1gb of system memory? because it is important.

bobobobodfwofof

LOL, YEA, CELL CAN REALLY USE GDDR3 LMFAO, IS THAT WHY EA HAD TO TAKE OUT 3D CROWDS ON FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 AND ADD 2D SPRITES TO PS3? LOL TO CUT DOWN ON GAME EXCEEDING 256 MB XDR MEMORY BANK.

lol, you ignorant people have alot to learn.

ps3 is a overhyped piece of crap.

more memory faster timings but less bandwidth is better than more bandwidth slower timings and less memory.

Romowned.
TekkenMaster606

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="bobobobodfwofof"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]That picture is stupid, and just plain wrong. This is what happens when people who don't understand hardware use MS Paint.bobobobodfwofof

the arrows are a mess, but it's correct, CELL CAN ONLY ACCESS 256 MB OF IT'S DEDICATED XDR,

show me link proof anything cell can also access rsx's gddr3 for main memory.

RSX'S CAN only use XDR for storing texture's that exceed it's 256 mb gddr3 memory bank, cell cannot access rsx's 256 mb gddr3 if an application exceeeds ps3's xdr 256 mb memory bank

if a game on xbox360 requires like 300 mbs main memory more than 256 mb main ram, then ps3 wont beable to handle the application.

this is why i made the thread.

And games are limited by CPU memory, why do you think games like battlefield 2, f.e.a.r doom3 quake 4 run like ass with only 1gb of system memory? because it is important.

LOL, you are self owned, you said the amount of main memory isnt important? more main memory is more important than video ram unless you using really high resolutions with aa.

look at pc game specs, f.e.a.r recommended is like 1.5gb , does it recommend 1.5gb video ram? no it's 256 mb video ram or 512mb.

Are you too ignorant to see ps3's flaw's i made it obvious to point out?

Why do you think gears of war couldnt be done on ps3? only 256 mb main memory.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]


Romowned.
Runningflame570

if you really want to compare xbox360 total system bandwidth 22.4 gb bandwidth  unified  gddr3 512 and 256 gb  bandwidth on 10 mb edram located on gpu die for framerbuffer and other effects, ps3 25.6 gb xdr 256 mb main memory and 20.8 gb 256 mb gddr3 video memory.

ps3's problem is cell being limited to only 256 mb xdr.

PS3

250 MILLION POLYGONS PER SECOND

96 INSTRUCTIONS/SECOND

XBOX360

500 MILLION POLYGONS PER SECOND

4000+ INSTRUCTIONS/SECOND

ps3 is outdated overpriced hunk of toilet paper.

more memory faster timings but less bandwidth is better than more bandwidth slower timings and less memory.

bobobobodfwofof

C'mon, Romowned is great.
TekkenMaster606

DUDE, THE ONLY REASON RSX GPU, CAN WRITE TO XDR CELL MAIN MEMORY FOR VIDEO MEMORY IS BECAUSE OF NVIDIA TURBOCACHE, CELL CANT WRITE TO RSX GPU GDDR3 FOR MAIN MEMORY ..BECAUSE PS3 IS SET UP LIKE PC ARCHITECTURE AND EPICGAMES STATED IT ON VIDEO TIM SWEENEY.

[QUOTE="wiistation360"]everyone,read my sigthirstychainsaw

Then I suppose GoW2 just didn't happen then. Because the specs on PS2 are utter crap so how on earth did they make a game as beautiful and action packed with awesome framerate as GoW2? It makes me think Xbox could have done so much better.

So now that the playing field is more even than last gen (most respectable devs will tell you this) then what does that tell you about future hits on PS3? You should look out for games that you think are unimaginable today to be reality one day.. that's what. Given its specs, PS3 has more potential than PS2 did with GoW2. How's that hard to understand?
oldskooler79