PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 Graphics Gap Will Start To Widen ??????????

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]PS3, on the other hand, has relatively new hardware/architecture. There aren't anywhere near the amount of devs that know the PS3 as there are ones that know the 360. The potential for more discovery is far, far greater. But, most of this remains to be seen.PoppaGamer

Other than blu-ray (which is just a storage medium), there is nothing new about the PS3's architecture.

If you had done your research on the PS3's hardware on andatech.com and beyond3d.com, you'd already know this. :)

First off, I'm not a fanboy. I own all 3 consoles. :)

Secondly, you got it right. Blu-ray is the only new tech in PS3. The Cell architecture has been around for while.

If dev's really were trying to create most realistic looking games like crysis for xbox360 they could easily outdo ps3 graphically...if made ground up only for 360.

graphics xbox360>>>>ps3

physics ps3 >>>>360.

Ps3's cpu must not be that powerful i can add 32 bot's in a unreal tournament 3 game on my pc.

http://www.gamekings.tv/index/videos/minidocu-the-company-behind-killzone-2-full-version-subbed/

14:21 devs said you can add 12 bots lol to a game.

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Other than blu-ray (which is just a storage medium), there is nothing new about the PS3's architecture.

If you had done your research on the PS3's hardware on andatech.com and beyond3d.com, you'd already know this. :)

LosDaddie

First off, I'm not a fanboy. I own all 3 consoles. :)

Secondly, you got it right. Blu-ray is the only new tech in PS3. The Cell architecture has been around for while.

If dev's really were trying to create most realistic looking games like crysis for xbox360 they could easily outdo ps3 graphically...if made ground up only for 360.

graphics xbox360>>>>ps3

physics ps3 >>>>360.

flabbyduck

[QUOTE="flabbyduck"]

If dev's really were trying to create most realistic looking games like crysis for xbox360 they could easily outdo ps3 graphically...if made ground up only for 360.

graphics xbox360>>>>ps3

physics ps3 >>>>360.

PoppaGamer

Because sony care's about making games for it's hardware microsoft doesnt.

[QUOTE="flabbyduck"]

If dev's really were trying to create most realistic looking games like crysis for xbox360 they could easily outdo ps3 graphically...if made ground up only for 360.

graphics xbox360>>>>ps3

physics ps3 >>>>360.

Floppy_Jim

http://www.gamekings.tv/index/videos/minidocu-the-company-behind-killzone-2-full-version-subbed/

14:55 ^^ in the video.

dude says our goal with the technology we developed for ps3 was trying to develop a cinematic technology which we could achieve cinematic effects with.

LOL want to know why? because nobody is developing software only for 360 hardware trying to achieve samething.

nobody is developing graphics engines/technology only for use on 360...like how killzone2's engine was made only for ps3.

i dunno if microsoft or all of their developers are dumbasses or what.

but you cant ever show off 360's hardware without the software being built ground up for xbox360.

plus none are trying to achieve cinematic type quality graphics.

ps3 graphics own xbox360 because sony's developers got way more skills than microsoft noobs.

idiots cant even build custom technologys for 360 hardware.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Right, so all of those points fanboys like you have made abotu devs not being able to make games with it, the comments from Gabe Newell, fanboys pointing out the "inferior" multiplats, and you are now telling me blu-ray is the only new tech devs are working with? Wow. Just wow.PoppaGamer

First off, I'm not a fanboy. I own all 3 consoles. :)

Secondly, you got it right. Blu-ray is the only new tech in PS3. The Cell architecture has been around for while.

Devs complained about the PS3 because the middleware tech (do you even know what that is?) was far behind the Xbox360's and because teh Cell architecture is great for crunching numbers, but not gaming.

Again, you should research this topic on andatech.com and beyond3d.com. You'd already know all this if you did. :)

[QUOTE="DBhova23"]okay we got Killzone 2, then Heavenly Sword then GOW 3 then next GT5 then maybe FFV13 in 2010 5 games than when it releases its a good chance that it'll be console graphics king when released. That is progression. then 360s best game graphically is suppose to be Alan Wake?? and can compare it artistically to lets say Heavenly Sword and HS kills AW graphically. flabbyduck

Those games have been made by developers who work with sony.

plus xbox360 really has no exclusive games like those....those games the engines/everything was made only for ps3, while games like gears of war 2 use upgraded multiplatform engine.

alan wake ? is multiplatform engine also/game.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I'm not expecting any gigantic gap-widening, but until the 360 provides something that impresses me as much as Killzone 2, PS3 has the edge as far as I'm concerned.LosDaddie

I think KZ2 finally brings the PS3 up to Gears2's graphics level.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="flabbyduck"]

Those games have been made by developers who work with sony.

plus xbox360 really has no exclusive games like those....those games the engines/everything was made only for ps3, while games like gears of war 2 use upgraded multiplatform engine.

alan wake ? is multiplatform engine also/game.

flabbyduck

dude...xbox360 is lacking in software developers skill to show off it's hardware.

that's like running quake 3 on a 8800 GTX and saying that's the best graphics it can do.

I know, apparently the 360 is easier to develop for so why aren't more developers jumping on board for exclusive engines and games? Like I said theoretical power is all great on paper but it's what you put into games that matters. People said the samething when everyone stated PS3 was more powerful but no games looked better than anything on the 360. Now the PS3 is starting to show its graphical prowress. Fact is until we see something on the 360 that can match KZ2, PS3 is the more powerful console.

[QUOTE="flabbyduck"]

[QUOTE="DBhova23"]okay we got Killzone 2, then Heavenly Sword then GOW 3 then next GT5 then maybe FFV13 in 2010 5 games than when it releases its a good chance that it'll be console graphics king when released. That is progression. then 360s best game graphically is suppose to be Alan Wake?? and can compare it artistically to lets say Heavenly Sword and HS kills AW graphically. mmirza23

Those games have been made by developers who work with sony.

plus xbox360 really has no exclusive games like those....those games the engines/everything was made only for ps3, while games like gears of war 2 use upgraded multiplatform engine.

alan wake ? is multiplatform engine also/game.

xbox360 is lacking in developers making engines only for 360 trying to achieve best graphics possible cinematic quality lol as killzone2 devs put it ...about only engines made only for 360 are stupid cel-shaded crap or something nothing like a killzone2 engine trying to push it's hardware.

the unreal engine 3.0 wasnt built ground up to run on xbox360 it wasnt built to use every feature 360's gpu supports and isnt optimised the best it could be...the engine doesnt take full advantage of every feature 360's cpu supports either.

the engine used to run like ass on 360 they finally got it running halfway decent.

the engine just wasnt built for 360 in mind.

[QUOTE="flabbyduck"]

[QUOTE="DBhova23"]okay we got Killzone 2, then Heavenly Sword then GOW 3 then next GT5 then maybe FFV13 in 2010 5 games than when it releases its a good chance that it'll be console graphics king when released. That is progression. then 360s best game graphically is suppose to be Alan Wake?? and can compare it artistically to lets say Heavenly Sword and HS kills AW graphically. mmirza23

Those games have been made by developers who work with sony.

plus xbox360 really has no exclusive games like those....those games the engines/everything was made only for ps3, while games like gears of war 2 use upgraded multiplatform engine.

alan wake ? is multiplatform engine also/game.

Funny, and true . While Sony is having troubles during today's recession . They have invested in a future proof project . Microsoft is in trouble too, denying that Vista is a failure and that the 360 will become really dated in 2010

A killzone2 dev said the reason it looks good? Because we made it only for ps3 ground up.

If killzone2 devs made killzone2 on 360 it would of looked equally as impressive lol probley more.

sony+killzone2 devs...got more skills than epicgames noobs.

lol unreal engine 3 is deferred renderer they were like oh we cant run anti aliasing on 360 since deferred doesnt support it.

guess what? killzone2 dev's had enough skills to write a forward rendering path to run anti aliasing lol.

A killzone2 dev said the reason it looks good? Because we made it only for ps3 ground up.

If killzone2 devs made killzone2 on 360 it would of looked equally as impressive lol probley more.

flabbyduck

[QUOTE="flabbyduck"]

A killzone2 dev said the reason it looks good? Because we made it only for ps3 ground up.

If killzone2 devs made killzone2 on 360 it would of looked equally as impressive lol probley more.

DBhova23

banjo actually looks pretty damn good...if you play it i was kinda surprised and i played it on sdtv the demo.

i dunno if banjos engine was made for 360's hardware it's cartoonish though

fable 2 looks outdated as crap probley fable 1 engine updated wasnt trying to achieve realistic graphics like killzone2.

halo 3 uses original xbox 1# engine uses updated halo 2 engine that's outdated as hell also.

http://www.gamekings.tv/index/videos/minidocu-the-company-behind-killzone-2-full-version-subbed/

look at 19:04 in the video it says main ram 101 mb's looks like it maybe i cant see and video ram 180 or 190 mb's WTF? lol on ps3 dev kit

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"]PS3, on the other hand, has relatively new hardware/architecture. There aren't anywhere near the amount of devs that know the PS3 as there are ones that know the 360. The potential for more discovery is far, far greater. But, most of this remains to be seen.PoppaGamer

Other than blu-ray (which is just a storage medium), there is nothing new about the PS3's architecture.

If you had done your research on the PS3's hardware on andatech.com and beyond3d.com, you'd already know this. :)

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I'm not expecting any gigantic gap-widening, but until the 360 provides something that impresses me as much as Killzone 2, PS3 has the edge as far as I'm concerned.hiryu3

I think KZ2 finally brings the PS3 up to Gears2's graphics level.

Makes me laugh that people think Uncharted looks better than Gears2 :lol:

I own both consoles and have played both games. How about you?

[QUOTE="daqua_99"]I don't think that there will be much difference really. Even though the PS3 allows for greater graphics, I think that the majority of the games will be roughly on a par, for the pure reason most games will be multiplat, and developers wont put in the extra effort needed for the PS3 version to look better with any significance.DOF_power

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^ Acording to whom,as the PS3 has an inferior GPU ?!

That was a fascinating article. Wrong, but fascinating.

at the moment the graphics are pretty much equal, but if the PS3 continues making games that look as good or better than Killzone 2, then i'd say the PS3 will finih this gen with the better graphics

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Other than blu-ray (which is just a storage medium), there is nothing new about the PS3's architecture.

If you had done your research on the PS3's hardware on andatech.com and beyond3d.com, you'd already know this. :)

delta3074

What constitutes the best graphics on a console? Some will claim the system that has the single best looking game is the best. Others will say the system that has the most games with graphics at the top of the scale (but may not have the #1 graphics game). is the better system . Look at last gen. It's pretty well accepted the xbox was graphics king. But gamecube and even the PS2 was known to put out a very very good looking game from time to time. In fact, some claim Gamecube had the best looking game lastgen. But no one really claims gamecube is the graphics king lastgen.

In otherwords lets' say it shakes out like this:

Console A has 1 fantastic looking game. So great that it is commonly refered to as the best looking game.
Console B has 20 games that look fantastic, but they all fall short of 1 game on Console A. However, all other console A games barely compare to anything on Console B (and multiplats are always better on Console B).

I think it will begin to widen this year.....PS3 exclusives in general look better than 360 exclusive titles..... Killzone 2, MLB 09: The Show, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, inFamous, Uncharted / Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet & Clank.....

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-267726.aspx

for me i dont think that there is any change in graphics on both consoles its all up to dev who create the games.

Rexer-i4

Its obvious that PS3 excluisve games will always look better then any 360 games out there..Sony got some kill first party games..I just expect it to get better!!

[QUOTE="hiryu3"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

I think KZ2 finally brings the PS3 up to Gears2's graphics level.

LosDaddie

Makes me laugh that people think Uncharted looks better than Gears2 :lol:

I own both consoles and have played both games. How about you?

Not a chance sony lied through their teeth about it's actual in game performance, 360 beats it by a margin.Ganados0