Playstation home.. is free? why is people bashing?
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because you get the same stuff for free on XBL too. PS Home brought nothing to the table in terms of game play which is what you pay for on XBL.billbradsky
1. free and then PAY???
!!!!!!!
what?
lol.
very little to do with gaming? not really, sure it has Home and multiple media functionality, but it does play games, and has good ones planned for this year (including multiplats)
You obviously dont understand; Home is NOT a free product.....you are required to have a PS3 to use it. This is very basic. Ps3 is $600. Thus, to "experience" home you have to pay $600. Home has very little to do with gaming and more to do with advertising and exposing an audience to said advertising while making them think that they are having fun with useless features like watching movie trailers, listening to music and dressing up your virtual barbie doll. Sure; it does have the ability to let you play select ps3 games via multiplayer......but you still have to be exposed to advertising. You pay 2 prices to access home (a feature which inherently has nothing to do with gaming): 1. the price of the system 2. Exposure to advertising which funds the program and allows developers to make their games accessible via an Xbox live type service. None of that is free. Home is not free.
it appears that i misunderstood, were you talking about Home or the PS3 in general, because i thought that you were talking about the ps3 in general
and if you are going to add all other expenses, then there is nothing in the world is free so having a debate over it is completely pointless
Thats completely unreasonable. Im not suggesting we have to take into account every single expense needed to experience Home; just the basics. And the one basic thing you need is a PS3; are you trying to suggest that its unreasonable to take that into account when evaluating the worth of Home? In that case throw in a tv, and the electricity needed to run them, and the network connection, and the phone line, and the house needed for the phone line(these are all necessary) and explain to me why the $600 version is needed? Did you not read my last post, the one you replied to? I addressed that "issue", we arent talking about everything under the sun here. To "play" home you need a ps3 and a ps3 is $600 (good luck finding the 500 version one, but even if those are the majority [which they are not] its still a cost of $500). You HAVE to pay that to play home. That cant be ignored. Its unreasonable for you and others to say, "oh well in that case lets just count the cost of a TV and electricity and all that other stuff! Hell lets even take into account the energy expenditure of cellular respiration because we have to use our biological bodies to play home!" Thats just unreasonable and you know it. So dont act stupid; its not helping your case.
very little to do with gaming? not really, sure it has Home and multiple media functionality, but it does play games, and has good ones planned for this year (including multiplats)
You obviously dont understand; Home is NOT a free product.....you are required to have a PS3 to use it. This is very basic. Ps3 is $600. Thus, to "experience" home you have to pay $600. Home has very little to do with gaming and more to do with advertising and exposing an audience to said advertising while making them think that they are having fun with useless features like watching movie trailers, listening to music and dressing up your virtual barbie doll. Sure; it does have the ability to let you play select ps3 games via multiplayer......but you still have to be exposed to advertising. You pay 2 prices to access home (a feature which inherently has nothing to do with gaming): 1. the price of the system 2. Exposure to advertising which funds the program and allows developers to make their games accessible via an Xbox live type service. None of that is free. Home is not free.
it appears that i misunderstood, were you talking about Home or the PS3 in general, because i thought that you were talking about the ps3 in general
and if you are going to add all other expenses, then there is nothing in the world is free so having a debate over it is completely pointless
Thats completely unreasonable. Im not suggesting we have to take into account every single expense needed to experience Home; just the basics. And the one basic thing you need is a PS3; are you trying to suggest that its unreasonable to take that into account when evaluating the worth of Home?
a bit, just for the fact that you get many other features besides home for the 600 dollar price tag (see my edited post)
But regardless of those features the price still has to be payed; and many of those features have nothing to do with gaming as well! So what are you paying for, really, when you plop down that $600 for a ps3? A gaming machine? Doesn't sound like it to me. And you do, in a way, pay a subscription for Home; the constant viewing of advertising. And even if we take that out what does Home do to make your gaming experience better once you payed that $600? Allow you to play online games? Yes, it does do that: but that could have been done anyways; without 3d avatars, fancied up internet forums .... all of these things are ILLUSIONS, they are there to make you think you are experiencing something that you are not. You are not that 3d avatar and having one doesnt make your onling gaming experience better; nor does it make looking at pictures, movie trailers or talking to people on forums better. Its not as though allowing one to play online games is some kind of tremendous feat, especially considering what the competition provides. All of this, Home, ultimately has nothign to do with gaming or making a better gameplay experience; so even if we grant that its "free" thats exactly what its worth: NOTHING. It's a whole lot of nothing. It has nothing to do with gameplay; i cant emphasize that enough.
i don't see it like that, i don't care about advertising because it is in everything so talking about it now with the ps3 is pointless; and your right it does have to be paid, but don't make it soundlike that is the only thing you pay for
also, it is a gaming machine, just because it has other functionalities outside of that, don't think that it somehow lessens the fact that it is a gaming machine; does Sony need to improve in that area? yes, will they in the future? yes
it's not nothng, as it provides something to do outside of gaming, don't limit the console to solely gaming; sony is trying to expand the features of the ps3 to more than just gaming; i agree that you are not the avatar itself, but you represent yourself and your views throught the avatar with other people. in real life, i am a shy person, that is why i like going on to forums because it allows me to express my views in a way that i couldn't before
[QUOTE="da1on2"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Dragonblade01"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Dragonblade01"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"]PS3 is free!? NO WAY! Where? Oh thats right, its not. $600 is too much to pay for a product that has very little to do with gaming.MaTT2011
very little to do with gaming? not really, sure it has Home and multiple media functionality, but it does play games, and has good ones planned for this year (including multiplats)
You obviously dont understand; Home is NOT a free product.....you are required to have a PS3 to use it. This is very basic. Ps3 is $600. Thus, to "experience" home you have to pay $600. Home has very little to do with gaming and more to do with advertising and exposing an audience to said advertising while making them think that they are having fun with useless features like watching movie trailers, listening to music and dressing up your virtual barbie doll. Sure; it does have the ability to let you play select ps3 games via multiplayer......but you still have to be exposed to advertising. You pay 2 prices to access home (a feature which inherently has nothing to do with gaming): 1. the price of the system 2. Exposure to advertising which funds the program and allows developers to make their games accessible via an Xbox live type service. None of that is free. Home is not free.
it appears that i misunderstood, were you talking about Home or the PS3 in general, because i thought that you were talking about the ps3 in general
and if you are going to add all other expenses, then there is nothing in the world is free so having a debate over it is completely pointless
Thats completely unreasonable. Im not suggesting we have to take into account every single expense needed to experience Home; just the basics. And the one basic thing you need is a PS3; are you trying to suggest that its unreasonable to take that into account when evaluating the worth of Home? In that case throw in a tv, and the electricity needed to run them, and the network connection, and the phone line, and the house needed for the phone line(these are all necessary) and explain to me why the $600 version is needed? Did you not read my last post, the one you replied to? I addressed that "issue", we arent talking about everything under the sun here. To "play" home you need a ps3 and a ps3 is $600 (good luck finding the 500 version one, but even if those are the majority [which they are not] its still a cost of $500). You HAVE to pay that to play home. That cant be ignored. Its unreasonable for you and others to say, "oh well in that case lets just count the cost of a TV and electricity and all that other stuff! Hell lets even take into account the energy expenditure of cellular respiration because we have to use our biological bodies to play home!" Thats just unreasonable and you know it. So dont act stupid; its not helping your case.
Why the hell are you even factoring in the price of the ps3, if you can do that, I can say an xbox360 game cost's $360 because to play an xbox360 game you basically need at least an xbox360. And your logic would mean XBL costs $450 ($600 for 4 years)
very little to do with gaming? not really, sure it has Home and multiple media functionality, but it does play games, and has good ones planned for this year (including multiplats)
You obviously dont understand; Home is NOT a free product.....you are required to have a PS3 to use it. This is very basic. Ps3 is $600. Thus, to "experience" home you have to pay $600. Home has very little to do with gaming and more to do with advertising and exposing an audience to said advertising while making them think that they are having fun with useless features like watching movie trailers, listening to music and dressing up your virtual barbie doll. Sure; it does have the ability to let you play select ps3 games via multiplayer......but you still have to be exposed to advertising. You pay 2 prices to access home (a feature which inherently has nothing to do with gaming): 1. the price of the system 2. Exposure to advertising which funds the program and allows developers to make their games accessible via an Xbox live type service. None of that is free. Home is not free.
it appears that i misunderstood, were you talking about Home or the PS3 in general, because i thought that you were talking about the ps3 in general
and if you are going to add all other expenses, then there is nothing in the world is free so having a debate over it is completely pointless
Thats completely unreasonable. Im not suggesting we have to take into account every single expense needed to experience Home; just the basics. And the one basic thing you need is a PS3; are you trying to suggest that its unreasonable to take that into account when evaluating the worth of Home? In that case throw in a tv, and the electricity needed to run them, and the network connection, and the phone line, and the house needed for the phone line(these are all necessary) and explain to me why the $600 version is needed? Did you not read my last post, the one you replied to? I addressed that "issue", we arent talking about everything under the sun here. To "play" home you need a ps3 and a ps3 is $600 (good luck finding the 500 version one, but even if those are the majority [which they are not] its still a cost of $500). You HAVE to pay that to play home. That cant be ignored. Its unreasonable for you and others to say, "oh well in that case lets just count the cost of a TV and electricity and all that other stuff! Hell lets even take into account the energy expenditure of cellular respiration because we have to use our biological bodies to play home!" Thats just unreasonable and you know it. So dont act stupid; its not helping your case.
your right it is unreasonable, that is the point we are trying to make, all the consoles cost an initial fee so don't single out the ps3; the reason that the online service is considered free is because there is no subscription)
more specifically lemmings and sheep
no, not math, please, anything but that
Ding Ding, i think we just found the solution.[QUOTE="HazeNPopes"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"]Because they hate to see sony do something right.topcatyo
Show'em what they've won!
A PS3!!!!!
Same reason fanboys bash the free Wii channels.General_XJealousy.
[QUOTE="da1on2"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Dragonblade01"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Dragonblade01"][QUOTE="MaTT2011"]PS3 is free!? NO WAY! Where? Oh thats right, its not. $600 is too much to pay for a product that has very little to do with gaming.MaTT2011
very little to do with gaming? not really, sure it has Home and multiple media functionality, but it does play games, and has good ones planned for this year (including multiplats)
You obviously dont understand; Home is NOT a free product.....you are required to have a PS3 to use it. This is very basic. Ps3 is $600. Thus, to "experience" home you have to pay $600. Home has very little to do with gaming and more to do with advertising and exposing an audience to said advertising while making them think that they are having fun with useless features like watching movie trailers, listening to music and dressing up your virtual barbie doll. Sure; it does have the ability to let you play select ps3 games via multiplayer......but you still have to be exposed to advertising. You pay 2 prices to access home (a feature which inherently has nothing to do with gaming): 1. the price of the system 2. Exposure to advertising which funds the program and allows developers to make their games accessible via an Xbox live type service. None of that is free. Home is not free.
it appears that i misunderstood, were you talking about Home or the PS3 in general, because i thought that you were talking about the ps3 in general
and if you are going to add all other expenses, then there is nothing in the world is free so having a debate over it is completely pointless
Thats completely unreasonable. Im not suggesting we have to take into account every single expense needed to experience Home; just the basics. And the one basic thing you need is a PS3; are you trying to suggest that its unreasonable to take that into account when evaluating the worth of Home? In that case throw in a tv, and the electricity needed to run them, and the network connection, and the phone line, and the house needed for the phone line(these are all necessary) and explain to me why the $600 version is needed? Did you not read my last post, the one you replied to? I addressed that "issue", we arent talking about everything under the sun here. To "play" home you need a ps3 and a ps3 is $600 (good luck finding the 500 version one, but even if those are the majority [which they are not] its still a cost of $500). You HAVE to pay that to play home. That cant be ignored. Its unreasonable for you and others to say, "oh well in that case lets just count the cost of a TV and electricity and all that other stuff! Hell lets even take into account the energy expenditure of cellular respiration because we have to use our biological bodies to play home!" Thats just unreasonable and you know it. So dont act stupid; its not helping your case.
I find the bolded statement to the highest degree of irony, seeing as I already own the $500 PS3
....and are you trying to tell me you can use home without a tv, network connection, a phone line, electricity, and a house? You sir, are unreasonable for factoring the price of the system into a free feature.
and to point out another flaw in your reasoning, if your sayin I'm paying $600 for Home, then you can also say these cost $600...
PS3 Games
Bu Ray Player
PS Store
PS2 Games
DVD Player
60 Gig storage space
Linux Computer
CD Player
PS1 Games
so that means the PS3 really costs $6000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
poor little fella, your trying so so hard :)bigLLLWe gotta give em credit for trying :D Jealousy gives them superhuman persistence.
It is a great idea in my opinion but has a lot to prove with its bold statement.
[QUOTE="shoeman12"]why do cows bash the news, weather, and voting channel when they're free?topcatyo
Why do Nintendo fanboys complain about how Home isn't a game when they have the nes, weather, and voting channel?
Because fanboys are hypocrites.
They same reason why alot of them complaid that all features not directly related to gameplay are unecessary untill they were announced[QUOTE="billbradsky"]because you get the same stuff for free on XBL too. PS Home brought nothing to the table in terms of game play which is what you pay for on XBL.dethroned3
1. free and then PAY???
!!!!!!!
what?
lol.
What's so hard to understand? You can do all those things with a XBL Silver subscription which is free. The XBL Gold which is $50 dollars is what is needed to play the games online. PSHome has nothing to do with playing games online. Therefore everything you can do on PSHome you can do on XBL for free. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
[QUOTE="dethroned3"][QUOTE="billbradsky"]because you get the same stuff for free on XBL too. PS Home brought nothing to the table in terms of game play which is what you pay for on XBL.billbradsky
1. free and then PAY???
!!!!!!!
what?
lol.
What's so hard to understand? You can do all those things with a XBL Silver subscription which is free. The XBL Gold which is $50 dollars is what is needed to play the games online. PSHome has nothing to do with playing games online. Therefore everything you can do on PSHome you can do on XBL for free. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
you can choose to play any multiplayer game with the ppl you meet in Home...so it has a lot to do... you see them you ask them to join you play watch the video
Just please tell me lemmings.sheeps.other animals .
HazeNPopes
Pure jealousy, denial that that $50/year is a complete waste, and fear of upcoming irrelevance.
I think that about covers it.
people are bashing because people are equating it to XBL and saying its better. if Cows stopped comparing it to XBL, lemmings would become defensive and bash it.Just please tell me lemmings.sheeps.other animals .
HazeNPopes
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