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#51  Edited By Chutebox
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@kvally said:
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@kvally: What the hell are you talking about? Where in that link does it show developers are not happy?

Not in the link you posted and that isn't evidence. It's just a guy saying peeps not happy.

LOL, just a guy. Ok. He works with developers and know developers (you know who he is right?). What experience do you have with NEO, and what have devs told you or Sony told you?

They haven't told me shit and we don't know if they've told this guy anything. I'm not in the habit of believing things just anyone says.

And like I said above, it doesn't matter if they're happy or not. If they want the money, they'll deal with it (I'm assuming they want the money).

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#52  Edited By kvally
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@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:
@kvally said:
@Chutebox said:

@kvally: What the hell are you talking about? Where in that link does it show developers are not happy?

Not in the link you posted and that isn't evidence. It's just a guy saying peeps not happy.

LOL, just a guy. Ok. He works with developers and know developers (you know who he is right?). What experience do you have with NEO, and what have devs told you or Sony told you?

They haven't told me shit and we don't know if they've told this guy anything. I'm not in the habit of believing things just anyone says.

And like I said above, it doesn't matter if they're happy or not. If they want the money, they'll deal with it (I'm assuming they want the money).

I guess we will just agree to disagree so we can move on. No doubt they will want the money.

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#53 Chutebox
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@kvally: Ya, they want the money haha. It'll probably be cake compared to how much trouble went into developing for previous Sony consoles.

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#54 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@kvally said:
@GoldenElementXL said:

No, it was not "also confirmed at Giant Bomb."

"Reports corroborated by Giant Bomb go on to suggest that, come October, each PlayStation 4 title will ship with a “Base Mode” for those users with original hardware, and a “NEO Mode” to support Sony’s PS4.5/PS4K"

Nowhere in that quote does any Giant Bomb staff member criticize the the cost or difficulty of making PS4 Neo features or claim that a developer is "not happy." That is all coming from Colin "please send me your donations" Moriarty.

Spin it. Right here they even state that they are two different systems, that will have to be sold side by side, that each system will have different mandates from Sony, requiring them to meet certain standards for one machine (REQUIRED), and not for the other:

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/sources-the-upgraded-playstation-4-is-codenamed-ne/1100-5437/

They will be required to make a day one patch for September, add parity support for peripherals as well.

So yes, we have a confirmation that many developers are NOT happy with this, and even the leaked papers are showing some Sony requirements and patches that will have to be made.

I trust those two sources than I do some random forum goer.

Nothing in that Giant Bomb article says anything about a developer being unhappy with the PS4 Neo. Why are you saying "we have a confirmation that many developers are NOT happy with this"? Our only source is a guy that works off donations who conveniently didn't name a single developer or give us another source for this claim. Developers have been coding for different hardware for decades. Have you ever heard of PC gaming? This isn't going to be difficult. And Sony is doing everything they can to avoid splitting their userbase.

Stop making things up. Or work on reading comprehension. I'm not sure which one it is at this point.

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#55 so-unco
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@BigBadBully:

"Only negative is that NEO is handcuffed for parity with PS4."

Consoles are even holding console gaming back now

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#56 Opus_Rea-333
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Sounds fun that way kinda like the N64 expansion pack.

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#57 kvally
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@GoldenElementXL: maybe you should back up your comments with proof that he is lying. The onus is on you. I never claimed a thing. We will be waiting you.

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#58 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@kvally: You keep trying to say that Giant Bomb is claiming developers are upset about PS4 Neo. The links you have provided say nothing close to that but it's obviously something you want them to. Colin Moriarty is 1 source and is nothing more than a freelance entertainer since he left IGN. If developers were upset about making 2 PS4 versions we would have heard about it. They already make PS4, Xbox One and PC versions that support hundreds to thousands of different hardware configurations. This is a non issue to everyone other than those that are upset about the PS4 upgrade.

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I swear, PS4K is just gonna be a system used to sell VR because the current systems are too weak to handle VR.

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#60 Mr_Huggles_dog
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Kvally has ceased being a parody account and turned into a serious PlayStation hater.

Nyadc confirmed.

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#61 kvally
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@GoldenElementXL: as a fan of PS, there is nothing I would want to see that is negative.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

Kvally has ceased being a parody account and turned into a serious PlayStation hater.

Nyadc confirmed.

Don't you find it strange that we haven't seen Dynamitecop lately here?

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#63 Chutebox
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

Kvally has ceased being a parody account and turned into a serious PlayStation hater.

Nyadc confirmed.

No he isn't.

B4X/DC/Cop is very easy to tell apart. Kvally is far from that psycho.

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@Chutebox: But you also never see NyaDC/Dynamitecop and Kvally at the same time on a thread when they do post. No quoting each other. Not saying that Kvally is actually the other 3 but the whole engaging each other is obvious.

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@Chutebox: But you also never see NyaDC/Dynamitecop and Kvally at the same time on a thread when they do post. No quoting each other. Not saying that Kvally is actually the other 3 but the whole engaging each other is obvious.

It wouldn't surprise me if NyaDC got moderated and that's why he hasn't been around for a while

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#66 enzyme36
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So much for this Gen... possibly the worst ever. Developers are not going to want to optimize their games twice, only a matter of time before PS4.5 exclusives arrive.

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#67  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@enzyme36: Developers are not going to want to optimize their games twice? You mean like they do with PS4 and Xbox One? Like they presumably will with NX? That makes 3 times right there. What about with the different CPU and GPU hardware on PC? This is a non issue.

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@lostrib said:
@davillain- said:

@Chutebox: But you also never see NyaDC/Dynamitecop and Kvally at the same time on a thread when they do post. No quoting each other. Not saying that Kvally is actually the other 3 but the whole engaging each other is obvious.

It wouldn't surprise me if NyaDC got moderated and that's why he hasn't been around for a while

That's also a possibility.

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#69 lostrib
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@GoldenElementXL said:

@enzyme36: Developers are not going to want to optimize their games twice? You mean like they do with PS4 and Xbox One? Like they presumably will with NX? That makes 3 times right there. What about with the different CPU and GPU hardware on PC? This is a non issue.

Unless it's ubisoft, who seem like they don't even want to optimize their games once

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#70  Edited By KHAndAnime
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@lostrib said:
@GoldenElementXL said:

@enzyme36: Developers are not going to want to optimize their games twice? You mean like they do with PS4 and Xbox One? Like they presumably will with NX? That makes 3 times right there. What about with the different CPU and GPU hardware on PC? This is a non issue.

Unless it's ubisoft, who seem like they don't even want to optimize their games once

Tons of devs these days are awful at optimization. Splitting up their optimization efforts among 2 vastly different performing targets is going is going to be a fail for many devs like From Software.

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@Chutebox: I get the feeling it's Nyadc with a bit less "fanatic" thrown in. Like he figured out what made him stand out and he adjusted.

I also can tell you what crop circles actually are. I'm a thinker!

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#72 kvally
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@mr_huggles_dog: I love PS and Xbox. Playing Bloodborne right now and getting my ass handed to me. Join me. My PSN is Kvally

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#73 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@kvally: no thanks

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@kvally: Looking at your trophy list, it seems as if you are a newer PS4 user. The PS4 Neo hate is making more sense now. If you need help with Bloodborne I would be more than happy to help sometime. I'm only half way through myself and want to finish it before I play DS3.

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#75  Edited By Chutebox
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Chutebox: I get the feeling it's Nyadc with a bit less "fanatic" thrown in. Like he figured out what made him stand out and he adjusted.

I also can tell you what crop circles actually are. I'm a thinker!

Nah, B4X will not learn. Kvally's cool ^^

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#76  Edited By emgesp
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Exactly, the same people who complain about the Neo are the same people who bought PS1/PS2/PS3 slim models even though they already had the fat models. So, who cares if the PS4 Neo provides better hardware to boot? You'll be playing the same damn games regardless.

All I know is I'm picking one up if its $399.99.

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#77  Edited By emgesp
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@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:
@kvally said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:

No, PS4 Neo is Playstation 4 but Neo has just extra future that gives you better frame rate. Like developers said, it's not different than PC graphics change.

Nah, it's their new gen.

So Playstation 2 Slim was new gen and PS3 slim was new gen?

So PS2 slim and PS3 slim doubled in performance and had developers complaining that they had to code for a new machine in addition to the old machine? It's their gen 9.

Coding for two console SKU's with a similar overall architecture is not harder than coding for multiple PC setups.

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#78 kvally
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@GoldenElementXL said:

@kvally: Looking at your trophy list, it seems as if you are a newer PS4 user. The PS4 Neo hate is making more sense now. If you need help with Bloodborne I would be more than happy to help sometime. I'm only half way through myself and want to finish it before I play DS3.

I got the PS4 the day it was released, I got the PS3 (but didn't play it online) in March of 2008, and I bought the PS1 and PS2 both a year after their release dates. I bought my PS4 for exclusives only.

I can add you to my PSN list for Bloodborne. I got destroyed again last night. I decided to boot up Dark Souls 1 for the first time. I got past the first like 4 or 5 regular enemies, got to the tutorial boss, and just died x 10 and gave up.

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#79 kvally
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@emgesp said:

Exactly, the same people who complain about the Neo are the same people who bought PS1/PS2/PS3 slim models even though they already had the fat models. So, who cares if the PS4 Neo provides better hardware to boot? You'll be playing the same damn games regardless.

All I know is I'm picking one up if its $399.99.

I don't know why anyone would complain. It's not like they are being forced to buy it. I never understood why people complain about options. I would buy it at $499, but hope that it is $399.

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@Chutebox said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

Kvally has ceased being a parody account and turned into a serious PlayStation hater.

Nyadc confirmed.

No he isn't.

B4X/DC/Cop is very easy to tell apart. Kvally is far from that psycho.

Is blackace..lol

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#81 kvally
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@tormentos said:
@Chutebox said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

Kvally has ceased being a parody account and turned into a serious PlayStation hater.

Nyadc confirmed.

No he isn't.

B4X/DC/Cop is very easy to tell apart. Kvally is far from that psycho.

Is blackace..lol

Calm down NathanDrakeSwag, it's da internet. It will be ok.

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@kvally:

Dude, take it as a complement, they likely view you as being effective and it scares the utters outta them. lol :P

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#83  Edited By kvally
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@kvally:

Dude, take it as a complement, they likely view you as being effective and it scares the utters outta them. lol :P

I think it is time to celebrate. It is Friday, no better day than to go cow tipping in Wisconsin. Who is in???

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@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:

@kvally:

Dude, take it as a complement, they likely view you as being effective and it scares the utters outta them. lol :P

I think it is time to celebrate. It is Friday, no better day than to go cow tipping in Wisconsin. Who is in???

Lol, my daughter in Madison's in, she's no Tommy Boy but can still tip'em with some of the best...

lol :P

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@SecretPolice said:
@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:

@kvally:

Dude, take it as a complement, they likely view you as being effective and it scares the utters outta them. lol :P

I think it is time to celebrate. It is Friday, no better day than to go cow tipping in Wisconsin. Who is in???

Lol, my daughter in Madison's in, she's no Tommy Boy but can still tip'em with some of the best...

lol :P

LOL! I met Chris when I was in college on State Street here in Madison at a bar. Oddly enough, years later my wife attended the funeral because she was a friend of the family. A legend gone :(

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#86  Edited By SecretPolice
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@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:
@kvally said:
@SecretPolice said:

@kvally:

Dude, take it as a complement, they likely view you as being effective and it scares the utters outta them. lol :P

I think it is time to celebrate. It is Friday, no better day than to go cow tipping in Wisconsin. Who is in???

Lol, my daughter in Madison's in, she's no Tommy Boy but can still tip'em with some of the best...

lol :P

LOL! I met Chris when I was in college on State Street here in Madison at a bar. Oddly enough, years later my wife attended the funeral because she was a friend of the family. A legend gone :(

Coolness and sadness at the same time.

Another aside, Tommy Boy took place in Sandusky, OH. very close to me and know it very well. I have a large boat on Catawba Island and cruise over to Cedar Point, the roller coaster capital of the world on the shores of lake Erie in Sandusky, OH. all the time. Was in fact gonna have the boat craned in today but the weather here sucks. Next weekend me thinks. lol

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#87  Edited By emgesp
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@kvally said:
@emgesp said:

Exactly, the same people who complain about the Neo are the same people who bought PS1/PS2/PS3 slim models even though they already had the fat models. So, who cares if the PS4 Neo provides better hardware to boot? You'll be playing the same damn games regardless.

All I know is I'm picking one up if its $399.99.

I don't know why anyone would complain. It's not like they are being forced to buy it. I never understood why people complain about options. I would buy it at $499, but hope that it is $399.

Yep, btw whose the hot chick in your profile pic?

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#88 kvally
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@emgesp said:
@kvally said:
@emgesp said:

Exactly, the same people who complain about the Neo are the same people who bought PS1/PS2/PS3 slim models even though they already had the fat models. So, who cares if the PS4 Neo provides better hardware to boot? You'll be playing the same damn games regardless.

All I know is I'm picking one up if its $399.99.

I don't know why anyone would complain. It's not like they are being forced to buy it. I never understood why people complain about options. I would buy it at $499, but hope that it is $399.

Yep, btw whose the hot chick in your profile pic?

Bree Olson. "Retired" porn star.

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@blackace:

@blackace said:

@FreedomFreeLife: Didn't Sony say every game released in Sept and beyond will have to support the PS4 Neo or was this all just a rumor as well? I have no plans on getting the PS4 Neo anytime soon either. My PS4 works just fine. Not shelling out another $400 for a few graphical upgrades and better fps.

Sony hasn't said anything.