Playstation Network Set To Offer Full Games For $39.99! $20 Less Then Retail!

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#51 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="Joust_"]

I like how people turned a "PS3 to offer full downloadable games at lower prices" into an anti Blu-ray one.

Good going fanboys.

Joust_

I like how no matter how many time Sony puts it foot in its mouth with a rushed to market format (hot today, obsolete tomorrow), the fanboys still back them 100%. How are those UMDs working out for ya? Game On....

The fact that you compare Blu-ray and UMD's success just shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

Here's a hint though: Blu-ray successful, UMD not successful

The fact that you cant see the trend of the industry of digital distro shows you have no idea what you are talking about. You do know the zip disk was a format standard once upon a time ago, it quickly became obsolete (maybe you are too young to know) With that being said Blu-ray was hot until digital distro became to pick up serious steam. HD movies are available on demand through numerous services, games are available through services like steam, etc etc that are in HD resolutions...where does that leave Blu-ray?!?!? In the bargin bin next to the HD-DVD stuff really soon... Game On...
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="heretrix"]I'll believe this when I see it.There really isn't much of a source for this rumor.warhawk and Socom were multiplayer titles only an birnout was several months old when it was released on PSN. I can't see the retailers being too happy about this. They are already nervous about this to begin with.heretrix

You forgot about Siren Blood Curse. It's a full and somewhat lenghty game that was available for download before releasing on disc.

It was episodic content that was compiled on a disk afterwards.

I LOVE what Sony is doing with PSN as far as downloading full games is concerned. But I find it hard to believe that retail is going to let them undercut them. There are many things that could hold this back. But I'll be the first in line if it's true. Trust me on that. I got a fiber connection and I ain't afraid to use it.

Its not about the retail stores being undercut, its about changing their archaic business models....adapt or die!!! This same argument was made regarding the music industry. They followed the same business model as gaming today...Buy new, sell used, trade-in, etc, etc....In the end, how many Virgin Megastores, or Tower records posting record sales for physical media for music?!?!? Now we all just pay for the songs we want on our site of choice, load onto a mp3 player and call it a day....no store required, my copy of the music. The transition is now reaching console gaming. For all the naysayers? Do you really think the distro of classic games or online demos on consoles was meant to benefit gamers?!?!? Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids...it was used as a beta for the distro of full console games. Now Ninty, MS, and Sony have their infrastructures in place to price and service the titles, its only a matter of time before DD is the preferred method of game launches. Game On...
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#53 hyperboy152000
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What will consolites say now after bashing steam for the last couple of years and saying they would only want hard copies of full games? :)blue_hazy_basic

im personally all for digital ditro.... i just dont like drms.... thats my only gripe

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#54 stereointegrity
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i just bought a 180 gig in november....looks like its time to upgrade to a 350
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#55 SemiMaster
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blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.Ontain
Not everyone installs a 250+ gig hard drive into their system. A full game will occupy a 20 40 60 80 or so gig hard drive that's standard with the PS3 really quick.
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#56 Jamex1987
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This is obviously fake.25GB downloads?
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#57 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.SemiMaster
Not everyone installs a 250+ gig hard drive into their system. A full game will occupy a 20 40 60 80 or so gig hard drive that's standard with the PS3 really quick.

or they could not include all those different languages in uncompressed audio... im sure that will remove quite a few gigs

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#58 redbaron3
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DD IS the way of the future :)
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]You forgot about Siren Blood Curse. It's a full and somewhat lenghty game that was available for download before releasing on disc.FatalDomain

It was episodic content that was compiled on a disk afterwards.

I LOVE what Sony is doing with PSN as far as downloading full games is concerned. But I find it hard to believe that retail is going to let them undercut them. There are many things that could hold this back. But I'll be the first in line if it's true. Trust me on that. I got a fiber connection and I ain't afraid to use it.

Its not about the retail stores being undercut, its about changing their archaic business models....adapt or die!!! This same argument was made regarding the music industry. They followed the same business model as gaming today...Buy new, sell used, trade-in, etc, etc....In the end, how many Virgin Megastores, or Tower records posting record sales for physical media for music?!?!? Now we all just pay for the songs we want on our site of choice, load onto a mp3 player and call it a day....no store required, my copy of the music. The transition is now reaching console gaming. For all the naysayers? Do you really think the distro of classic games or online demos on consoles was meant to benefit gamers?!?!? Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids...it was used as a beta for the distro of full console games. Now Ninty, MS, and Sony have their infrastructures in place to price and service the titles, its only a matter of time before DD is the preferred method of game launches. Game On...

I never said the retailers were smart. They will fight this just like the music industry did. They will try to stick to the old way as long as they can. Just look how long the transition to digital TV is taking and look at how the music industry is all screwed up now. I'm usually an optimistic person, but my experience in dealing with corporations and the people that run them make me a total sceptic as far as this is concerned.
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#60 Hexagon_777
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DD IS the way of the future :)redbaron3

Exactly. If cows and lemmings care so much for "next gen" stuff like they indicate when they hate on the Wii, then they should welcome digital distribution with open arms.

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#61 Nonstop-Madness
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They practically already started doing this with Warhawk and GT5P.
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#62 Eddie-Vedder
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I'm with everyone saying buying the Disc is always better, but 20 bucks less is a cool deal.
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#63 Gxgear
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I don't get what the big fuss is about; just because they're planning to release full version games over the PSN doesn't mean you have to buy it.

There are a couple advantages to this aside from getting games for cheaper. It is very likely that hardcopy of games will eventually be discontinued and pulled off the shelves while PSN will still offer the downloads. You can switch games on the fly in the comfort of your couch without having to get up. It's easier for storage and you prevent your games from damages that can otherwise occur to a disc.

But the link seems less that credible and I doubt that we will be seeing anything anytime soon.

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#64 0bscurity
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Depending on the game, I'd rather buy it off PSN.
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#65 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.ogvampire

Not everyone installs a 250+ gig hard drive into their system. A full game will occupy a 20 40 60 80 or so gig hard drive that's standard with the PS3 really quick.

or they could not include all those different languages in uncompressed audio... im sure that will remove quite a few gigs

That would also work too I suppose.
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#66 Gxgear
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If you go read the actual article it's really just saying the gaming industry is pushing for online distribution of content. So I wouldn't expect anything different than something like Burnout Paradise being sold online on PSN.

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#67 porky_ownsu
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so that means you can have like 5 games and thats it?

i still stick with my library of discs.

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#68 angelkimne
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Eh? So it's just a prediction by some market analyst or what?
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Isn't that kinda defeating the purpose of Blu-Ray? Its awesome that Sony can cut the games down by $20, but at the same time isn't saying that Blu-Ray isn't necessary and drives up the cost of a game in a way?DarkGamer007

Aren't PS3 games the same price as 360 games? If so, how does BR then drive up the price of games? As for whether or not BR is "necessary", that would depend on the hard drive size people have and whether or not they are willing to upgrade. I would be very surprised if the casual-driven console market suddenly turns to a majority of DD.

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[QUOTE="redbaron3"]DD IS the way of the future :)Hexagon_777

Exactly. If cows and lemmings care so much for "next gen" stuff like they indicate when they hate on the Wii, then they should welcome digital distribution with open arms.

I think when, very high speed broadband is viable for most people without costing an arm and a leg. and being able to move content to other places becomes convenient, then I will fully accept DD. Just not yet.
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="redbaron3"]DD IS the way of the future :)bdum_pshhh

Exactly. If cows and lemmings care so much for "next gen" stuff like they indicate when they hate on the Wii, then they should welcome digital distribution with open arms.

I think when, very high speed broadband is viable for most people without costing an arm and a leg. and being able to move content to other places becomes convenient, then I will fully accept DD. Just not yet.

I think a steady, reliable bandwidth for that high speed is also very important. I find my service is extremely unreliable whether I am using the wireless PS3 or my PCs hard line connection. Sometimes I can download a PS3 demo of video that is over 1 gig in a few minutes, other times it may take an hour. Hell, when I downloaded Burnout, it literally took all day and that was only 3 gigs or so.

WHile the idea of downloading a new game for cheap is appealing, unless internet service providers are more reliable, I may be willing to spend the extra $20 to drive to the store and get it within 30 minutes instead of waiting countless hours. I guess it would depend on the game and howw "must have" I consider it.

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cool, but haven't thet started this already with warhawk and alike? Heck even xbox is doing this with by selling xbox 1 games over live for download.
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#73 Tekkenloving
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that's cool but I still prefer the physical copy
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#74 iLiveBy2words
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What will consolites say now after bashing steam for the last couple of years and saying they would only want hard copies of full games? :)blue_hazy_basic

I would say that if you were going to download a game onto your PC anyway, then why not save yourself the $40 and find a "free" download. At least consolites who do buy hard copies have an excuse to be foolish in that regard.

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#75 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.II_Seraphim_II
Are you joking? First of all this will probably be region specific. And even if its not, many people are not ready to download 20GB games yet. Sure a lot have broadband, but im a lot of places its either too expensive or not fast enough.

i'm guessing that the majority of ppl who are buying most of the ps3 games are also ppl with broadband. also if they are going to make games downloadable expect them to use compression and since they are downloadable they are installed on the harddrive. meaning that disc medium is irrelevent when you are just going to install anyway.
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#76 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.dotWithShoes
How long does it take you to download 30+ gb of data? I bet I can drive to GameStop and be back home before you can download it.

ever heard for pre-release downloads? mmorpgs will download the next patch in parts before they are complete. then on patch day they just turn it on. in theory they can do this from games as well. you pre-order and you can pre-download the game and only need a patch and activation on release day. Not to mention that the downloads will be compressed and expanded after you download. they can also make extra languages an optional download.
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#77 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="heretrix"]It was episodic content that was compiled on a disk afterwards.

I LOVE what Sony is doing with PSN as far as downloading full games is concerned. But I find it hard to believe that retail is going to let them undercut them. There are many things that could hold this back. But I'll be the first in line if it's true. Trust me on that. I got a fiber connection and I ain't afraid to use it.

heretrix

Its not about the retail stores being undercut, its about changing their archaic business models....adapt or die!!! This same argument was made regarding the music industry. They followed the same business model as gaming today...Buy new, sell used, trade-in, etc, etc....In the end, how many Virgin Megastores, or Tower records posting record sales for physical media for music?!?!? Now we all just pay for the songs we want on our site of choice, load onto a mp3 player and call it a day....no store required, my copy of the music. The transition is now reaching console gaming. For all the naysayers? Do you really think the distro of classic games or online demos on consoles was meant to benefit gamers?!?!? Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids...it was used as a beta for the distro of full console games. Now Ninty, MS, and Sony have their infrastructures in place to price and service the titles, its only a matter of time before DD is the preferred method of game launches. Game On...

I never said the retailers were smart. They will fight this just like the music industry did. They will try to stick to the old way as long as they can. Just look how long the transition to digital TV is taking and look at how the music industry is all screwed up now. I'm usually an optimistic person, but my experience in dealing with corporations and the people that run them make me a total sceptic as far as this is concerned.

Agreed, companies holding onto the past unwilling to change is a big hassle....But for all of the idiotic posts I read in the topic (not yours) I feel its my duty to enlighten them about DD and its current impact throughout the entertainment industry. The naysayers truly think they will be buying games at Gamestop or other physical retailers in the next 10 years completely ignoring what is happening today is gaming.

Game On...

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#78 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="redbaron3"]DD IS the way of the future :)Hexagon_777

Exactly. If cows and lemmings care so much for "next gen" stuff like they indicate when they hate on the Wii, then they should welcome digital distribution with open arms.

Well said... Game On...
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#79 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.EVOLV3


Not really, the market where blu-ray needs to be strong is in movies. Thats where Sony is really pushing Blu-ray, the next movie format.

that's why i said gaming. though i think that the movie market will be lost soon too as netflix online(and others) as well as HD on Demand from cable and satellite get more popular.
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#80 Lionheart08
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This sounds practical although I think it'll only be done with first parties and exclusive third party titles.
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#81 hopesfall2own
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There's already half a dozen 360 games for $40 in disc format..whats the big deal?
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Even though I think the entire process will be a mess, hopefully it becomes true. You're able to share your PSN ID and the content that comes along with people you know well, so I'm thinking you might be able to also share these full retail games.
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#83 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.PoppaGamer
Wrong, if there's value in blu-ray from the start, its still there. There's still great reasons to won a physical copy of a game. Such as taking it to someone else's system.

I said blu-ray. not physical copy. the fact that you will be installing the games like you do for many ps3 games already makes the actual media unimportant.
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#84 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.Ontain
How long does it take you to download 30+ gb of data? I bet I can drive to GameStop and be back home before you can download it.

ever heard for pre-release downloads? mmorpgs will download the next patch in parts before they are complete. then on patch day they just turn it on. in theory they can do this from games as well. you pre-order and you can pre-download the game and only need a patch and activation on release day.

What is this crap about downloading 30GB games?!?!? Do the bovine community still believe they are getting a full BD of unique gaming content? How many tech reports from PS3 devs do you need to read before you understand that the data on BD is redundant. This redundancy is there to accommodate the slow read speed of the BD drive. Aside from MGS4 (beefy cutscenes), there is no other game that on consoles that are truly over the DVD-9 limit. Downloading a game is not an issue. Game On....
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#85 Ontain
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Even though I think the entire process will be a mess, hopefully it becomes true. You're able to share your PSN ID and the content that comes along with people you know well, so I'm thinking you might be able to also share these full retail games.one_on_one
hehe you'd hope that but with sony's record on DRM I think they will either tie the download to your ps3 or won't allow any online components if you're already logged in.
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What will consolites say now after bashing steam for the last couple of years and saying they would only want hard copies of full games? :)blue_hazy_basic
Still buy the hard copies, like myself lol.
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Full games...like 40gb downloads? Can anyone afford the extra bandwith necessary to download those?
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There's already half a dozen 360 games for $40 in disc format..whats the big deal? hopesfall2own
Nice DC lol. These are actual full, new games that will be out if it's even true. Don't need to get upset about it.
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="Ontain"]blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.Ontain
How long does it take you to download 30+ gb of data? I bet I can drive to GameStop and be back home before you can download it.

ever heard for pre-release downloads? mmorpgs will download the next patch in parts before they are complete. then on patch day they just turn it on. in theory they can do this from games as well. you pre-order and you can pre-download the game and only need a patch and activation on release day. Not to mention that the downloads will be compressed and expanded after you download. they can also make extra languages an optional download.

So now games are only available on release day?
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]There's already half a dozen 360 games for $40 in disc format..whats the big deal? Chutebox
Nice DC lol. These are actual full, new games that will be out if it's even true. Don't need to get upset about it.

How is it DC? And the 360 games are full too..wow :roll:
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#91 deactivated-598fc45371265
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They've already started that in 2007 with Warhawk.

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This sounds practical although I think it'll only be done with first parties and exclusive third party titles.Lionheart08

Burnout Paradise is multi and it's on the PlayStation Store.

It's only $19.99 too. :)

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]So let me get this straight, I'm supposed to pay a 20 dollar premium for some wallpapers and trailers?

:lol: that's absolutely ridiculous. That's ok, but people are whining about paying 10 bucks for DLC?

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I think you are actually paying for the Blu-ray disc, the shipping costs, the printing costs and the retailer's cut when you buy the physical copy. The trailers and wallpapers are just extra.




Yes, its like buying any other game for $59 from EbGames, except now you get some extra content. Or if you dont want a physical copy of the game you can download it for $20 cheaper. Seems like a great idea.
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What will consolites say now after bashing steam for the last couple of years and saying they would only want hard copies of full games? :)blue_hazy_basic
:) The problem I often see is the downloads cost the same price or sometimes even more than retail games on sale. Price being the same I'd take retail, $20 off I'm all for downloads.
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#95 foxhound_fox
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So much for Blu-ray being the next step in distribution media. Now Sony is even shunning it in favour of DD.

Now developers won't have to pad their games with useless content just to make it seem as if the 50GB of space is necessary.
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#96 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] How long does it take you to download 30+ gb of data? I bet I can drive to GameStop and be back home before you can download it.dotWithShoes
ever heard for pre-release downloads? mmorpgs will download the next patch in parts before they are complete. then on patch day they just turn it on. in theory they can do this from games as well. you pre-order and you can pre-download the game and only need a patch and activation on release day. Not to mention that the downloads will be compressed and expanded after you download. they can also make extra languages an optional download.

So now games are only available on release day?

of course not. they would only start to allow activation on the release day. you can still download and install after as well.
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#97 SMR-Venom
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Yeah guys, they have been doing this for the PSP for a long time now. Notice all PSP retail games are $23 or less on PSN. This is good but they won't put all the games up, just like they did with the PSP.
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#98 imprezawrx500
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so sony has finally realized not everyone likes buying physical disks and just want to buy and download. Be interesting to see if it takes off. EB games must be cringing at the effect dd could have on retail games. steam is killing the pc retail market so maybe psn will start to kill the console retail market, especially if you get the same game for $20 less.
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#99 hakanakumono
Member since 2008 • 27455 Posts

blu-ray becomes irrelevant to gaming if that's the case.Ontain

There is only so much space on a harddrive. Downloading directly to the harddrive is naturally going to take up much more space.

In the end, I'm still going to prefer to buy the physical disc w/ case.

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#100 imprezawrx500
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You know what's ironic in all of this (if this is true)? MS is the company preaching left and right about how digital distribution is the future and Sony is the company that is actually doing something in that field.lusitanogamer
that is so true, ms keeps talking about it but is doing nothing despite it having been around for 4 years on pc. the gwl marketplace is one huge joke and even xbl fails to have one modern game on it while just about every pc game is now avaliable via digital distribution. and sony has a few that are. ms talks about dd while sony actually does something. maybe ms wont do it because that tiny 20/60/120gb hdd wont cut it.